MINUTES OF PROCEEDINGS
MONDAY, DECEMBER 2, 1996
(Meeting No. 1)
The Evidence for this meeting is not available because it was held in camera.
(Meeting No. 1)
The Evidence for this meeting is not available because it was held in camera.
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The Sub-Committee on the Draft Regulations on Firearms of the Standing Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs met in camera at 3:35 o'clock p.m. this day, in Room 308, West Block, the Chair, Russell MacLellan, presiding.
Members of the Sub-Committee present: Pierre de Savoye, Russell MacLellan, John Maloney, Jack Ramsay and Susan Whelan.
Acting Member present: Paul DeVillers for Gordon Kirkby.
In attendance: From the Research Branch of the Library of Parliament: Philip Rosen, Senior Analyst and Gérald Lafrenière, Research Officer.
The Sub-Committee commenced consideration of its Order of Reference from the Committee dated Thursday, September 19, 1996 being read as follows:
That, pursuant to Standing Order 108(1)(a) and (b) a Sub-Committee of the Standing Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs to be composed of 6 members including the Chair, 3 members of the Liberal Party, 1 member of the Bloc, 1 member of the Reform Party, be established with all the powers of the Committee except the power to report to the House; and pursuant to Standing Order 108(2) the mandate of the said Sub-Committee shall be to examine the Draft Regulations on Firearms to be tabled in the House in October 1996 and to report to the Standing Committee.
ORDERED,--That pursuant to its Order of Reference from the Committee dated Wednesday, November 27, 1996, the Sub-Committee on the Draft Regulations on Firearms of the Standing Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs be composed of the following Members: Russell MacLellan as Chair, Gordon Kirkby, Susan Whelan, John Maloney, Pierre de Savoye and Jack Ramsay.
Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), (Wednesday, November 27, 1996), and section 118 of the Firearms Act,> 1995, c. 39, the Sub-Committee began consideration of the following Draft Regulations concerning: Firearms Licences Regulations (SOR 96-458-01), Non-Prohibited Ammunition Transfer Document Regulations (SOR 96-224-01), Storage, Display, Transportation and Handling of Firearms by Individuals Regulations (SOR 96-216-02), Storage, Display and Transportation of Firearms and Other Weapons by Businesses Regulations (SOR 96-564-01), Authorizations to Transport Restricted Firearms and Prohibited Firearms Regulations (SOR 96-243-02), Authorizations to Carry Restricted Firearms and Certain Handguns Regulations (SOR 96-242-02), Authorization to Export or Import Firearms Regulations (Businesses) (SOR 96-560-01), Conditions of Transferring Firearms and Other Weapons Regulations (SOR 96-566-01), Firearms Records Regulations (SOR 96- 584-01), Aboriginal Peoples of Canada Adaptations Regulations (Firearms) (SOR 96-585-02), Firearms Fees Regulations (SOR 96-268-02).
The Committee proceeded to the adoption of the following routine motions:
On motion of Pierre de Savoye, it was agreed,-That the Sub-Committee print the number of copies of its Minutes of Proceedings as established by the Board of Internal Economy.
On motion of Pierre de Savoye, it was agreed,--That the Chair be authorized to hold meetings in order to receive and authorize the publication of evidence when a quorum is not present provided that at least three (3) Members, including one from the Opposition, be present.
On motion of Paul DeVillers, it was agreed,--That the Sub-Committee retain the services of one or more research officers from the Library of Parliament, as needed, to assist the Sub-Committe in its works, at the discretion of the Chair.
On motion of Susan Whelan, it was agreed,--That, unless there is a unanimous consent of each representative of the three parties, forty-eight (48) hours notice must be given to the members of the Sub-Committee before any new item of business is considered by the Sub-Committee.
On motion of John Maloney, it was agreed,--That, during the questioning of witnesses, time be so allocated: First round of questions--10 minutes for each party in this order: Official Opposition, Reform Party of Canada and Government Party. Subsequent rounds--At the discretion of the Chair, 5 minutes for each questioner, alternately between government and opposition members.
On motion of Susan Whelan, it was agreed,--That the Clerk of the Sub-Committee be authorized to distribute, in their original language, the documents received from the public and that the Clerk of the Sub-Committee ensure that such documents are translated and the translation distributed as promptly as possible.
On motion of Paul DeVillers, it was agreed,--That, at the discretion of the Chair, reasonable travelling expenses, as per the regulation established by the Board of Internal Economy, be paid to witnesses invited to appear before the Sub-Committee, and that for such payment of expenses a limit of two (2) representatives per organization be established.
On motion of Pierre de Savoye, it was agreed,--That when the Chair of the Sub-Committee is unable to act in this capacity at or during a meeting of the Sub-Committee, he shall designate a Member of the Sub-Committee to act as Chair at or during the said meeting.
The Sub-Committee proceeded to the consideration of its future business.
It was agreed to invite the Senior Officials from the Department of Justice on December 10, 1996 at 9:30 a.m.
It was agreed to invite witnesses during the week of December 9, if possible, and to organize meetings during the week of January 27, 1997, if the House is coming back sooner.
It was agreed to invite the following witnesses:
Shooting organizations
Shooting Federation of Canada--Paul Shaw
``Fédération de tir du Québec''--Gerard Guyon
Ontario Handgun Association--Larry Whitmore
IPSC (International Practical Shooting Confederation )--Lorne Rowe
DCRA (Dominion of Canada Rifle Association)--J.G. Kirton
General Firearms Businesses
CSAAA (Canadian Sporting Arms and Ammunition Association)--Erv
Heiman
Savage Arms Canada--Al Taylor
R.J. Nicholls Distributor Inc.--Robert J. Nicholls
ParaOrdnance--Thanos Polyzos
SNC Lavalin--Normand Heroux
Armoured Car Industry
Bank of Canada--Gordon Ireland
Universal ATM Services--Anthony Reid
Loomis Armoured Car Services--John Weller
Brinks Canada--Fred Meitin (Metlin?)
SECUR
Museums and Historical Re-enactors
Canadian Museums Association--John McAvity
Hamilton Military Museum--Brenda Brownlee
British North America Living History Association--Richard Feltoe
Outfitters
Quebec Outfitters (proper name)?--or Northern Ontario Tourist
Outfitters--Jim Grayston
Yukon Outfitters (proper name)?
Saskatchewan Outfitters Association--Len Romaniuk
Hunters
Ontario Federation of Anglers and Hunters--Rick Morgan--or National Coalition of Provincial and Territorial Wildlife Federations--Rick Morgan
Collectors
Ontario Arms Collectors Association--William Bateman
Association of Semi-Automatic Firearms Collectors of Quebec Inc.--Steve Torino
Firearms Groups
National Firearms Association--Dave Tomlinson
Responsible Firearms Owners--regionally-balanced panel (list all of the RFOs that appeared before the House or Senate)
Movie Industry
Cold Blue Rentals--Andrew Campbell
``Association des producteurs de film et télévision du Québec''--Josée Vallée
Canadian Institute of Theatre Technicians--Alex Gazale
Aboriginal
Assembly of First Nations
Inuit Tapirisat of Canada
Metis National Council
Grand Council of the Crees
James Bay Northern
Quebec Agrt.--Hunting, Fishing and Trapping
Coordinating Committee
Pauktuutit Inuit Womens Association
Council of Yukon First Nations
Federation of Saskatchewan Indians
Chiefs of Ontario
Makivak Corporation
Police
CACP--Brian Ford
CPA--Scott Newark
Chief Firearms Officers
Hank Mathias--CFO for B.C. and Chair of the group
Victims Groups
Victims of Violence International--Robert McNamara
CAVEAT--Priscilla de Villiers
Privacy
Privacy Commissioner--Richard Dore
Gun Control Groups
Coalition for Gun Control--Wendy Cukier
Women's Groups
YWCA--Sandra Essex or Gael MacLeod
PATHS (Provincial Association of Transition
Houses Saskatchewan)--Virginia Fisher
B.C. Institute of Family Violence--Jill Hightower
Montreal Assault Prevention Centre--Leona Heillig
Public Health
``Centre de santé'' (etc.)--Antoine Chapdelaine
Canadian Public Health Association--Robert Burr
Legal
Canadian Bar Association
``Barreau du Québec''
Others
That additional witnesses may be added by the Members of the Sub-Committee.
At 4:10 o'clock p.m., the Sub-Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.
TUESDAY, DECEMBER 10, 1996
(Meeting No. 2)
(Meeting No. 2)
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The Sub-Committee on the Draft Regulations on Firearms of the Standing Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs met at 9:35 o'clock a.m. this day, in Room 308, West Block, the Chair, Russell MacLellan, presiding.
Members of the Sub-Committee present: Pierre de Savoye, Russell MacLellan, John Maloney and Jack Ramsay.
Acting Member present: Paul DeVillers for Gordon Kirkby.
Other Member present: Pierrette Venne.
In attendance: From the Research Branch of the Library of Parliament: Philip Rosen, Senior Analyst and Gérald Lafrenière, Research Officer.
Witnesses: From the Department of Justice: Richard G. Mosley, Q.C., Assistant Deputy Minister, Criminal Policy; William C. Bartlett, Counsel, Canadian Firearms Centre.
In accordance with its mandate under Standing Order 32(5), (Wednesday, November 27, 1996), and section 118 of the Firearms Act, S.C. 1995, c. 39, the Sub-Committee resumed consideration of the following Draft Regulations:
Firearms Licences Regulations (SOR 96-458-01), Non-Prohibited Ammunition Transfer Document Regulations (SOR 96-224-01), Storage, Display, Transportation and Handling of Firearms by Individuals Regulations (SOR 96-216-02), Storage, Display and Transportation of Firearms and Other Weapons by Businesses Regulations (SOR 96-564-01), Authorizations to Transport Restricted Firearms and Prohibited Firearms Regulations (SOR 96-243-02), Authorizations to Carry Restricted Firearms and Certain Handguns Regulations (SOR 96-242-02), Authorization to Export or Import Firearms Regulations (Businesses) (SOR 96-560-01), Conditions of Transferring Firearms and Other Weapons Regulations (SOR 96-566-01), Firearms Records Regulations (SOR 96-584-01), Aboriginal Peoples of Canada Adaptations Regulations (Firearms) (SOR 96-585-02), Firearms Fees Regulations (SOR 96-268-02) (See Minutes of Proceedings dated Monday, December 2, 1996, Issue No. 1).
Richard G. Mosley, Q.C., made an opening statement and with William C. Bartlett answered questions.
At 12:05 o'clock p.m., the Sub-Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.
MONDAY, JANUARY 27, 1997
(Meeting No. 3)
(Meeting No. 3)
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The Sub-Committee on the Draft Regulations on Firearms of the Standing Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs met at 9:03 o'clock a.m. this day, in Room 237-C, Centre Block, the Chair, Russell MacLellan, presiding.
Members of the Sub-Committee present: Pierre de Savoye, Russell MacLellan, John Maloney, Jack Ramsay and Susan Whelan.
In attendance: From the Research Branch of the Library of Parliament: Gérald Lafrenière, Research Officer.
Witnesses: Jonathan G. Kirton, Vice-President; Tud J. Kaulbach, Executive Director, Dominion of Canada Rifle Association (DCRA). Larry Whitmore, Executive Manager, Ontario Handgun Association. Larry Cowlishaw, President; Lorne Rowe, Regional Director for Canada, International Practical Shooting Confederation. Gordon Ireland, Manager, Protective Services, Bank of Canada. Anthony Reid, Vice-President and General Counsel, Universal ATM Services; Pierre Gelderblom, Director, Inquiries and Security, SECUR Inc.; Rob England, Lawyer, Loomis Armoured Car Services; Gordon Cameron, National Security Director, Brinks Canada Ltd.
In accordance with its mandate under Standing Order 32(5), (Wednesday, November 27, 1996), and section 118 of the Firearms Act, S.C. 1995, c. 39, the Sub-Committee resumed consideration of the following Draft Regulations:
Firearms Licences Regulations (SOR 96-458-01), Non-Prohibited Ammunition Transfer Document Regulations (SOR 96-224-01), Storage, Display, Transportation and Handling of Firearms by Individuals Regulations (SOR 96-216-02), Storage, Display and Transportation of Firearms and Other Weapons by Businesses Regulations (SOR 96-564-01), Authorizations to Transport Restricted Firearms and Prohibited Firearms Regulations (SOR 96-243-02), Authorizations to Carry Restricted Firearms and Certain Handguns Regulations (SOR 96-242-02), Authorization to Export or Import Firearms Regulations (Businesses) (SOR 96-560-01), Conditions of Transferring Firearms and Other Weapons Regulations (SOR 96-566-01), Firearms Records Regulations (SOR 96-584-01), Aboriginal Peoples of Canada Adaptations Regulations (Firearms) (SOR 96-585-02), Firearms Fees Regulations (SOR 96-268-02) (See Minutes of Proceedings dated Monday, December 2, 1996, Issue No. 1).
SHOOTING ORGANIZATIONS
Jonathan G. Kirton from the Dominion of Canada Rifle Association made an opening statement.
By videoteleconference from Toronto, Larry Cowlishaw from the International Practical Shooting Confederation made an opening statement.
By videoteleconference from Toronto, Lorne Rowe from the International Practical Shooting Confederation made an opening statement.
The witnesses, with Tud J. Kaulbach and Larry Whitmore, answered questions.
At 10:45 o'clock a.m., the sitting was suspended.
At 11:00 o'clock a.m., the sitting resumed.
ARMOURED CAR INDUSTRY
Gordon Cameron from Brinks Canada Ltd. made an opening statement.
Pierre Gelderblom from SECUR Inc. made an opening statement.
Gordon Ireland from the Bank of Canada made an opening statement.
By videoteleconference from Toronto, Rob England from Loomis Armoured Car Services made an opening statement.
Anthony Reid from the Universal ATM Services made an opening statement.
The witnesses answered questions.
At 12:30 o'clock p.m., the Sub-Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.
Richard Dupuis
Clerk of the Sub-Committee
MONDAY, JANUARY 27, 1997
(Meeting No. 4)
(Meeting No. 4)
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The Sub-Committee on the Draft Regulations on Firearms of the Standing Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs met at 1:20 o'clock p.m. this day, in Room 237-C, Centre Block, the Chair, Russell MacLellan, presiding.
Members of the Sub-Committee present: Pierre de Savoye, Russell MacLellan, John Maloney, Jack Ramsay and Susan Whelan.
In attendance: From the Research Branch of the Library of Parliament: Gérald Lafrenière, Research Officer.
Witnesses: Gill Hightower, Executive director, B.C. Institute of Family Violence. Leona Heillig, Public Relations & Fund-Raising, Montreal Assault Prevention Centre. Robert McNamara, Vice-President, Victims of Violence International; Allan Adams, 7th Vice-Chief, Federation of Saskatchewan Indian Nations.
In accordance with its mandate under Standing Order 32(5), (Wednesday, November 27, 1996), and section 118 of the Firearms Act, S.C. 1995, c. 39, the Sub-Committee resumed consideration of the following Draft Regulations:
Firearms Licences Regulations (SOR 96-458-01), Non-Prohibited Ammunition Transfer Document Regulations (SOR 96-224-01), Storage, Display, Transportation and Handling of Firearms by Individuals Regulations (SOR 96-216-02), Storage, Display and Transportation of Firearms and Other Weapons by Businesses Regulations (SOR 96-564-01), Authorizations to Transport Restricted Firearms and Prohibited Firearms Regulations (SOR 96-243-02), Authorizations to Carry Restricted Firearms and Certain Handguns Regulations (SOR 96-242-02), Authorization to Export or Import Firearms Regulations (Businesses) (SOR 96-560-01), Conditions of Transferring Firearms and Other Weapons Regulations (SOR 96-566-01), Firearms Records Regulations (SOR 96-584-01), Aboriginal Peoples of Canada Adaptations Regulations (Firearms) (SOR 96-585-02), Firearms Fees Regulations (SOR 96-268-02) (See Minutes of Proceedings dated Monday, December 2, 1996, Issue No. 1).
ABORIGINALS
By videoteleconference from Saskatoon, Allan Adams from the Federation of Saskatchewan Indian Nations made an opening statement and answered questions.
At 2:00 o'clock p.m., the sitting was suspended.
At 2:17 o'clock p.m., the sitting resumed.
WOMEN'S GROUPS
Leona Heillig from Montreal Assault Prevention Centre made an opening statement and answered questions.
By videoteleconference from Vancouver, Gill Hightower made an opening statement and answered questions.
At 3:30 o'clock p.m., the sitting was suspended.
At 3:38 o'clock p.m., the sitting resumed.
VICTIMS GROUPS
Robert McNamara made an opening statement and answered questions.
At 4:30 o'clock p.m., the Sub-Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.
Bill Farrell
Committee Clerk
TUESDAY, JANUARY 28, 1997
(Meeting No. 5)
(Meeting No. 5)
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The Sub-Committee on the Draft Regulations on Firearms of the Standing Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs met at 9:03 o'clock a.m. this day, in Room 237-C, Centre Block, the Chair, Russell MacLellan, presiding.
Members of the Sub-Committee present: Pierre de Savoye, Russell MacLellan, John Maloney, Jack Ramsay and Susan Whelan.
In attendance: From the Research Branch of the Library of Parliament: Gérald Lafrenière, Research Officer.
Witnesses: John G. McAvity, Executive Director, Canadian Museums Association; Brenda Brownlee, Curator, Hamilton Military Museum; Richard Feltoe, Coordinator, British North America Living History Association; Wendy Cukier, President, Coalition for Gun Control; Superintendent Don McLean, Winnipeg Police Service; Heidi Rathjen, Vice-President.
In accordance with its mandate under Standing Order 32(5), (Wednesday, November 27, 1996), and section 118 of the Firearms Act, S.C. 1995, c. 39, the Sub-Committee resumed consideration of the following Draft Regulations:
Firearms Licences Regulations (SOR 96-458-01), Non-Prohibited Ammunition Transfer Document Regulations (SOR 96-224-01), Storage, Display, Transportation and Handling of Firearms by Individuals Regulations (SOR 96-216-02), Storage, Display and Transportation of Firearms and Other Weapons by Businesses Regulations (SOR 96-564-01), Authorizations to Transport Restricted Firearms and Prohibited Firearms Regulations (SOR 96-243-02), Authorizations to Carry Restricted Firearms and Certain Handguns Regulations (SOR 96-242-02), Authorization to Export or Import Firearms Regulations (Businesses) (SOR 96-560-01), Conditions of Transferring Firearms and Other Weapons Regulations (SOR 96-566-01), Firearms Records Regulations (SOR 96-584-01), Aboriginal Peoples of Canada Adaptations Regulations (Firearms) (SOR 96-585-02), Firearms Fees Regulations (SOR 96-268-02) (See Minutes of Proceedings dated Monday, December 2, 1996, Issue No. 1).
MUSEUMS AND HISTORICAL RE-ENACTORS
John G. McAvity from the Canadian Museums Association made an opening statement.
By videoteleconference from Toronto, Brenda Brownlee made an opening statement.
Richard Feltoe from the British North America Living History Association made an opening statement.
The witnesses answered questions.
GUN CONTROL GROUPS
At 10:08 o'clock a.m., Heidi Rathjen, Wendy Cukier and Superintendent Don McLean from the Coalition for Gun Control each made an opening statement and answered questions.
At 11:15 o'clock a.m., the Sub-Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.
Richard Dupuis
Clerk of the Sub-Committee
TUESDAY, JANUARY 28, 1997
(Meeting No. 6)
(Meeting No. 6)
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The Sub-Committee on the Draft Regulations on Firearms of the Standing Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs met at 1:00 o'clock p.m. this day, in Room 237-C, Centre Block, the Chair, Russell MacLellan, presiding.
Members of the Sub-Committee present: Pierre de Savoye, Gordon Kirkby, Russell MacLellan, Jack Ramsay and Susan Whelan.
In attendance: From the Research Branch of the Library of Parliament: Gérald Lafrenière, Research Officer.
Witnesses: Tony Rogers, Executive Director, Nova Scotia Wild Life Federation. Gordon Gallant, Firearms Specialist, Ontario Federation of Anglers and Hunters. Hank Mathias, Chief Firearms Officer, Security Programs Division, Ministry of the Attorney General for British Columbia. Eric Goodwin, Chief Firearms Officer, Department of Community Affairs and Attorney General for Prince Edward Island. Mary Sillett, Interim President, Inuit Tapirisat of Canada. Martha Flaherty, President. Mary Nashook. Martha Greig, Pauktuutit Inuit Women's Association. Wendy Moss, Advisor, Inuit Tapirisat of Canada and Pauktuutit Inuit Women's Association.
In accordance with its mandate under Standing Order 32(5), (Wednesday, November 27, 1996), and section 118 of the Firearms Act, S.C. 1995, c. 39, the Sub-Committee resumed consideration of the following Draft Regulations:
Firearms Licences Regulations (SOR 96-458-01), Non-Prohibited Ammunition Transfer Document Regulations (SOR 96-224-01), Storage, Display, Transportation and Handling of Firearms by Individuals Regulations (SOR 96-216-02), Storage, Display and Transportation of Firearms and Other Weapons by Businesses Regulations (SOR 96-564-01), Authorizations to Transport Restricted Firearms and Prohibited Firearms Regulations (SOR 96-243-02), Authorizations to Carry Restricted Firearms and Certain Handguns Regulations (SOR 96-242-02), Authorization to Export or Import Firearms Regulations (Businesses) (SOR 96-560-01), Conditions of Transferring Firearms and Other Weapons Regulations (SOR 96-566-01), Firearms Records Regulations (SOR 96-584-01), Aboriginal Peoples of Canada Adaptations Regulations (Firearms) (SOR 96-585-02), Firearms Fees Regulations (SOR 96-268-02) (See Minutes of Proceedings dated Monday, December 2, 1996, Issue No. 1).
HUNTERS
Tony Rogers from the Nova Scotia Wild Life Federation and Gord Gallant from the Ontario Federation of Anglers and Hunters both made opening statements and answered questions.
At 2:08 o'clock p.m., the sitting was suspended.
At 2:17 o'clock p.m., the sitting resumed.
CHIEF FIREARMS OFFICERS
Hank Mathias from the Ministry of the Attorney General for British Columbia and Eric Goodwin from the Department of Community Affairs and Attorney General for Prince Edward Island both made opening statements and answered questions.
At 3:21 o'clock p.m., the sitting was suspended.
At 3:31 o'clock p.m., the sitting resumed.
ABORIGINAL
Mary Sillett, Martha Flaherty, Martha Greig all made opening statements and with Wendy Moss, answered questions.
By videoteleconference from Iqaluit, Mary Nashook made an opening statement and answered questions.
At 5:10 o'clock p.m., the Sub-Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.
WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 29, 1997
(Meeting No. 7)
(Meeting No. 7)
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The Sub-Committee on the Draft Regulations on Firearms of the Standing Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs met at 9:50 o'clock a.m. this day, in Room 237-C, Centre Block, the Chair, Russell MacLellan, presiding.
Members of the Sub-Committee present: Pierre de Savoye, Gordon Kirkby, Russell MacLellan, John Maloney, Jack Ramsay and Susan Whelan.
In attendance: From the Research Branch of the Library of Parliament: Gérald Lafrenière, Research Officer.
Witnesses: Doug Montgomery, Chairman, Firearms Legislation Committee, Saskatchewan Outfitters Association; Albert James, Yukon Vice-Chief, Assembly of First Nations; Deputy Chief Carl Sidney, Teslin Tlingit First Nation; David Joe, Legal Counsel, Council of Yukon First Nations.
In accordance with its mandate under Standing Order 32(5), (Wednesday, November 27, 1996), and section 118 of the Firearms Act, S.C. 1995, c. 39, the Sub-Committee resumed consideration of the following Draft Regulations:
Firearms Licences Regulations (SOR 96-458-01), Non-Prohibited Ammunition Transfer Document Regulations (SOR 96-224-01), Storage, Display, Transportation and Handling of Firearms by Individuals Regulations (SOR 96-216-02), Storage, Display and Transportation of Firearms and Other Weapons by Businesses Regulations (SOR 96-564-01), Authorizations to Transport Restricted Firearms and Prohibited Firearms Regulations (SOR 96-243-02), Authorizations to Carry Restricted Firearms and Certain Handguns Regulations (SOR 96-242-02), Authorization to Export or Import Firearms Regulations (Businesses) (SOR 96-560-01), Conditions of Transferring Firearms and Other Weapons Regulations (SOR 96-566-01), Firearms Records Regulations (SOR 96-584-01), Aboriginal Peoples of Canada Adaptations Regulations (Firearms) (SOR 96-585-02), Firearms Fees Regulations (SOR 96-268-02) (See Minutes of Proceedings dated Monday, December 2, 1996, Issue No. 1).
OUTFITTERS
By videoteleconference from Regina, Doug Montgomery made an opening statement and answered questions.
At 10:38 o'clock a.m., the sitting was suspended.
At 11:10 o'clock a.m., the sitting resumed.
ABORIGINALS
By videoteleconference from Whitehorse, Albert James made an opening statement and with Deputy Chief Carl Sidney and David Joe, answered questions.
At 12:10 o'clock p.m., the Sub-Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.
Bill Farrell
Committee Clerk
WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 29, 1997
(Meeting No. 8)
(Meeting No. 8)
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The Sub-Committee on the Draft Regulations on Firearms of the Standing Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs met at 1:10 o'clock p.m. this day, in Room 237-C, Centre Block, the Chair, Russell MacLellan, presiding.
Members of the Sub-Committee present: Pierre de Savoye, Gordon Kirkby, Russell MacLellan, John Maloney and Jack Ramsay.
In attendance: From the Research Branch of the Library of Parliament: Gérald Lafrenière, Research Officer.
Witnesses: Andrew Campbell, President, Locations Cold Blue; Alex Gazale, Eastern Ontario Regional Representative, Canadian Institute of Theatre Technology (CITT), c/o National Arts Centre (NAC); Tom Adair, Business Representative, The Motion Picture Studio Production Technicians.
In accordance with its mandate under Standing Order 32(5), (Wednesday, November 27, 1996), and section 118 of the Firearms Act, S.C. 1995, c. 39, the Sub-Committee resumed consideration of the following Draft Regulations:
Firearms Licences Regulations (SOR 96-458-01), Non-Prohibited Ammunition Transfer Document Regulations (SOR 96-224-01), Storage, Display, Transportation and Handling of Firearms by Individuals Regulations (SOR 96-216-02), Storage, Display and Transportation of Firearms and Other Weapons by Businesses Regulations (SOR 96-564-01), Authorizations to Transport Restricted Firearms and Prohibited Firearms Regulations (SOR 96-243-02), Authorizations to Carry Restricted Firearms and Certain Handguns Regulations (SOR 96-242-02), Authorization to Export or Import Firearms Regulations (Businesses) (SOR 96-560-01), Conditions of Transferring Firearms and Other Weapons Regulations (SOR 96-566-01), Firearms Records Regulations (SOR 96-584-01), Aboriginal Peoples of Canada Adaptations Regulations (Firearms) (SOR 96-585-02), Firearms Fees Regulations (SOR 96-268-02) (See Minutes of Proceedings dated Monday, December 2, 1996, Issue No. 1).
MOVIE INDUSTRY
By videoteleconference from Vancouver, Neil McLeod from Six Angles Production Inc. made an opening statement.
Alex Gazale from the Canadian Institute of Theatre Technology made an opening statement.
By videoteleconference from Vancouver, Tom Adair from the Motion Picture Studio Production Technicians, Local 891, made an opening statement.
The witnesses answered questions.
Andrew D. Campbell from the Locations Cold Blue made an opening statement and answered questions.
At 3:30 o'clock p.m., the Sub-Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.
Richard Dupuis
Clerk of the Sub-Committee
THURSDAY, JANUARY 30, 1997
(Meeting No. 9)
(Meeting No. 9)
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The Sub-Committee on the Draft Regulations on Firearms of the Standing Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs met at 9:10 o'clock a.m. this day, in Room 237-C, Centre Block, John Maloney, presiding.
Members of the Sub-Committee present: Pierre de Savoye, Gordon Kirkby, John Maloney, Jack Ramsay and Susan Whelan.
In attendance: From the Research Branch of the Library of Parliament: Philip Rosen, Senior Analyst.
Witnesses: Dr. Antoine Chapdelaine, ``Conférence des régies régionales de la santé et des services sociaux du Québec''; Dr. Robert McGuire, Director, ``Santé publique du Bas Saint Laurent''. Dr. Danielle Grenier; Dr. Catherine A. Leonard, Canadian Association for Adolescent Health, Canadian Paediatric Society. Robert Paddon, Chair, B.C. Wildlife Federation. Linda Thom, President, Association of Women's Shooters of Canada.
In accordance with its mandate under Standing Order 32(5), (Wednesday, November 27, 1996), and section 118 of the Firearms Act, S.C. 1995, c. 39, the Sub-Committee resumed consideration of the following Draft Regulations:
Firearms Licences Regulations (SOR 96-458-01), Non-Prohibited Ammunition Transfer Document Regulations (SOR 96-224-01), Storage, Display, Transportation and Handling of Firearms by Individuals Regulations (SOR 96-216-02), Storage, Display and Transportation of Firearms and Other Weapons by Businesses Regulations (SOR 96-564-01), Authorizations to Transport Restricted Firearms and Prohibited Firearms Regulations (SOR 96-243-02), Authorizations to Carry Restricted Firearms and Certain Handguns Regulations (SOR 96-242-02), Authorization to Export or Import Firearms Regulations (Businesses) (SOR 96-560-01), Conditions of Transferring Firearms and Other Weapons Regulations (SOR 96-566-01), Firearms Records Regulations (SOR 96-584-01), Aboriginal Peoples of Canada Adaptations Regulations (Firearms) (SOR 96-585-02), Firearms Fees Regulations (SOR 96-268-02) (See Minutes of Proceedings dated Monday, December 2, 1996, Issue No. 1).
PUBLIC HEALTH
Dr. Danielle Grenier and Dr. Catherine A. Leonard, from the Canadian Association for Adolescent Health and Canadian Paediatric Society, each made an opening statement.
Dr. Robert Maguire and Dr. Antoine Chapdelaine from the ``Conférence des régies régionales de la santé et des services sociaux du Québec'', each made an opening statement.
The witnesses answered questions.
At 10:37 o'clock a.m., the sitting was suspended.
At 10:42 o'clock a.m., the sitting resumed.
FIREARMS GROUPS
Robert Paddon from the B.C. Wildlife Federation and Linda Thom from the Association of Women's Shooters of Canada each made an opening statement and answered questions.
At 11:41 o'clock a.m., the Sub-Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.
Richard Dupuis
Clerk of the Sub-Committee
Bill Farrell
Committee Clerk
MONDAY, FEBRUARY 3, 1997
(Meeting No. 10)
(Meeting No. 10)
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The Sub-Committee on the Draft Regulations on Firearms of the Standing Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs met at 10:05 o'clock a.m. this day, in Room 237-C, Centre Block, the Chair, Russell MacLellan, presiding.
Members of the Sub-Committee present: Pierre de Savoye, Gordon Kirkby, Russell MacLellan, Jack Ramsay and Susan Whelan.
Acting Member present: Glen McKinnon for John Maloney.
Other Member present: Claude Bachand.
In attendance: From the Research Branch of the Library of Parliament: Gérald Lafrenière, Research Officer.
Witnesses: Bill Erasmus, National Chief, Dene Nation. Ovide Mercredi, National Chief, Assembly of First Nations. Mike Badham, President; Wendy L. Fedec, Executive Director, Canadian Association of Police Boards.
In accordance with its mandate under Standing Order 32(5), (Wednesday, November 27, 1996), and section 118 of the Firearms Act, S.C. 1995, c. 39, the Sub-Committee resumed consideration of the following Draft Regulations:
Firearms Licences Regulations (SOR 96-458-01), Non-Prohibited Ammunition Transfer Document Regulations (SOR 96-224-01), Storage, Display, Transportation and Handling of Firearms by Individuals Regulations (SOR 96-216-02), Storage, Display and Transportation of Firearms and Other Weapons by Businesses Regulations (SOR 96-564-01), Authorizations to Transport Restricted Firearms and Prohibited Firearms Regulations (SOR 96-243-02), Authorizations to Carry Restricted Firearms and Certain Handguns Regulations (SOR 96-242-02), Authorization to Export or Import Firearms Regulations (Businesses) (SOR 96-560-01), Conditions of Transferring Firearms and Other Weapons Regulations (SOR 96-566-01), Firearms Records Regulations (SOR 96-584-01), Aboriginal Peoples of Canada Adaptations Regulations (Firearms) (SOR 96-585-02), Firearms Fees Regulations (SOR 96-268-02). (See Minutes of Proceedings dated Monday, December 2, 1996, Issue No. 1).
ABORIGINALS
By videoteleconference from Yellowknife, Bill Erasmus from Dene Nation made an opening statement and answered questions.
At 11:00 o'clock a.m., the sitting was suspended.
At 11:05 o'clock a.m., the sitting resumed.
Ovide Mercredi from Assembly of First Nations made an opening statement and answered questions.
At 12:00 o'clock a.m., the sitting was suspended.
At 12:05 o'clock a.m., the sitting resumed.
POLICE
Mike Badham from the Canadian Association of Police Boards made an opening statement and with Wendy L. Fedec, answered questions.
At 12:42 o'clock p.m., the Sub-Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.
Miriam Burke
Committee Clerk
MONDAY, FEBRUARY 3, 1997
(Meeting No. 11)
(Meeting No. 11)
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The Sub-Committee on the Draft Regulations on Firearms of the Standing Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs met at 3:37 o'clock p.m. this day, in Room 237-C, Centre Block, the Chair, Russell MacLellan, presiding.
Members of the Sub-Committee present: Pierre de Savoye, Gordon Kirkby, Russell MacLellan, Jack Ramsay and Susan Whelan.
Acting Member present: Larry McCormick for John Maloney.
Other Member present: Pierrette Venne.
In attendance: From the Research Branch of the Library of Parliament: Gérald Lafrenière, Research Officer.
Witnesses: William E. Bateman, Director, Ontario Arms Collectors' Association; Steve Torino, Vice-President; George Panagiotidis, Vice-President and Jean-Claude Caron, Director, Association of Semi-Automatic Firearms Collectors of Quebec Inc. Jim Antler, Research Analyst, Northern Ontario Tourist Outfitters Association. Serge Tanguay, General Director, ``Fédération des pourvoyeurs du Québec Inc.'' and Claude Gauthier, President, ``Fédération québécoise de la faune''.
In accordance with its mandate under Standing Order 32(5), (Wednesday, November 27, 1996), and section 118 of the Firearms Act, S.C. 1995, c. 39, the Sub-Committee resumed consideration of the following Draft Regulations:
Firearms Licences Regulations (SOR 96-458-01), Non-Prohibited Ammunition Transfer Document Regulations (SOR 96-224-01), Storage, Display, Transportation and Handling of Firearms by Individuals Regulations (SOR 96-216-02), Storage, Display and Transportation of Firearms and Other Weapons by Businesses Regulations (SOR 96-564-01), Authorizations to Transport Restricted Firearms and Prohibited Firearms Regulations (SOR 96-243-02), Authorizations to Carry Restricted Firearms and Certain Handguns Regulations (SOR 96-242-02), Authorization to Export or Import Firearms Regulations (Businesses) (SOR 96-560-01), Conditions of Transferring Firearms and Other Weapons Regulations (SOR 96-566-01), Firearms Records Regulations (SOR 96-584-01), Aboriginal Peoples of Canada Adaptations Regulations (Firearms) (SOR 96-585-02), Firearms Fees Regulations (SOR 96-268-02) (See Minutes of Proceedings dated Monday, December 2, 1996, Issue No. 1).
COLLECTORS
By videoteleconference from Toronto, William Bateman from the Ontario Arms Collectors' Association made an opening statement and answered questions.
Steve Torino from the Association of Semi-Automatic Firearms Collectors of Quebec Inc. made an opening statement and with the other witnesses, answered questions.
At 4:40 o'clock p.m., the sitting was suspended.
At 4:50 o'clock p.m., the sitting resumed.
OUTFITTERS
By videoteleconference from North Bay, Jim Antler from the Northern Ontario Tourist Outfitters Association made an opening statement and answered questions.
Serge Tanguay from the ``Fédération des pourvoyeurs du Québec'' and Claude Gauthier from the ``Fédération québécoise de la faune'' both made opening statements and answered questions.
At 6:05 o'clock p.m., the Sub-Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.
Bill Farrell
Committee Clerk
TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 4, 1997
(Meeting No. 12)
(Meeting No. 12)
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The Sub-Committee on the Draft Regulations on Firearms of the Standing Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs met at 9:05 o'clock a.m. this day, in Room 237-C, Centre Block, the Chair, Russell MacLellan, presiding.
Members of the Sub-Committee present: Pierre de Savoye, Gordon Kirkby, Russell MacLellan, John Maloney, Jack Ramsay and Susan Whelan.
In attendance: From the Research Branch of the Library of Parliament: Gérald Lafrenière, Research Officer.
Witnesses: From the Grand Council of the Crees/ (EEYOU ASTCHEE) Cree Regional Authority: Brian Craig, Director, Federal Relations; Philip Awashish. From the Cree Trappers' Association: Rick Cuciurean; Me Deborah Friedman, Legal Counsel. From the Shooting Federation of Canada: Paul Shaw, Executive Committee Member. From the Mohawk / Canada Round Table: Chief Two Rivers, Chief Jacobs, Chief Phillips, Chief Gilbert and Alwyn Moris and Angie Barnes.
In accordance with its mandate under Standing Order 32(5), (Wednesday, November 27, 1996), and section 118 of the Firearms Act, S.C. 1995, c. 39, the Sub-Committee resumed consideration of the following Draft Regulations:
Firearms Licences Regulations (SOR 96-458-01), Non-Prohibited Ammunition Transfer Document Regulations (SOR 96-224-01), Storage, Display, Transportation and Handling of Firearms by Individuals Regulations (SOR 96-216-02), Storage, Display and Transportation of Firearms and Other Weapons by Businesses Regulations (SOR 96-564-01), Authorizations to Transport Restricted Firearms and Prohibited Firearms Regulations (SOR 96-243-02), Authorizations to Carry Restricted Firearms and Certain Handguns Regulations (SOR 96-242-02), Authorization to Export or Import Firearms Regulations (Businesses) (SOR 96-560-01), Conditions of Transferring Firearms and Other Weapons Regulations (SOR 96-566-01), Firearms Records Regulations (SOR 96-584-01), Aboriginal Peoples of Canada Adaptations Regulations (Firearms) (SOR 96-585-02), Firearms Fees Regulations (SOR 96-268-02) (See Minutes of Proceedings dated Monday, December 2, 1996, Issue No. 1).
ABORIGINALS
Brian Craig and Philip Awashish from the Grand Council of the Crees of Québec each made an opening statement and, with Deborah Friedman and Rick Cuciurean from the Cree Trappers' Association, answered questions.
SHOOTING ORGANIZATIONS
At 10:09 o'clock a.m., by videoteleconference from Toronto, Paul Shaw from the Shooting Federation of Canada made an opening statement and answered questions.
ABORIGINALS
Chief Two Rivers, Chief Jacobs, Chief Phillips, Chief Gilbert and Alwyn Moris from the Mohawk/Canada Round Table each made an opening statement and, with Angie Barnes, answered questions.
At 12:25 o'clock p.m., the Sub-Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.
TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 4, 1997
(Meeting No. 13)
(Meeting No. 13)
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The Sub-Committee on the Draft Regulations on Firearms of the Standing Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs met at 3:35 o'clock p.m. this day, in Room 308, West Block, the Chair, Russell MacLellan, presiding.
Members of the Sub-Committee present: Pierre de Savoye, Russell MacLellan, John Maloney, Jack Ramsay and Susan Whelan.
In attendance: From the Research Branch of the Library of Parliament: Gérald Lafrenière, Research Officer.
Witnesses: From the Canadian Association of Chiefs of Police: Chief Brian Ford, Ottawa-Carleton Regional Police Service; Rusty Beauchesne, Legal Advisor to the Law Amendments Committee and Bryan McConnell, Executive Director.
In accordance with its mandate under Standing Order 32(5), (Wednesday, November 27, 1996), and section 118 of the Firearms Act, S.C. 1995, c. 39, the Sub-Committee resumed consideration of the following Draft Regulations:
Firearms Licences Regulations (SOR 96-458-01), Non-Prohibited Ammunition Transfer Document Regulations (SOR 96-224-01), Storage, Display, Transportation and Handling of Firearms by Individuals Regulations (SOR 96-216-02), Storage, Display and Transportation of Firearms and Other Weapons by Businesses Regulations (SOR 96-564-01), Authorizations to Transport Restricted Firearms and Prohibited Firearms Regulations (SOR 96-243-02), Authorizations to Carry Restricted Firearms and Certain Handguns Regulations (SOR 96-242-02), Authorization to Export or Import Firearms Regulations (Businesses) (SOR 96-560-01), Conditions of Transferring Firearms and Other Weapons Regulations (SOR 96-566-01), Firearms Records Regulations (SOR 96-584-01), Aboriginal Peoples of Canada Adaptations Regulations (Firearms) (SOR 96-585-02), Firearms Fees Regulations (SOR 96-268-02) (See Minutes of Proceedings dated Monday, December 2, 1996, Issue No. 01).
POLICE
Chief Brian Ford made an opening statement and with Rusty Beauchesne and Bryan McConnell, answered questions.
At 4:33 o'clock p.m., the sitting was suspended.
At 4:40 o'clock p.m., the sitting resumed in camera.
At 5:05 o'clock p.m., the Sub-Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.
Richard Dupuis
Clerk of the Sub-Committee
WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 5, 1997
(Meeting No. 14)
(Meeting No. 14)
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The Sub-Committee on the Draft Regulations on Firearms of the Standing Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs met at 3:40 o'clock p.m. this day, in Room 308, West Block, the Chair, Russell MacLellan, presiding.
Members of the Sub-Committee present: Pierre de Savoye, Gordon Kirkby, Russell MacLellan, John Maloney, Jack Ramsay and Susan Whelan.
In attendance: From the Research Branch of the Library of Parliament: Gérald Lafrenière, Research Officer.
Witnesses: René J.J. Roberge, Executive Director, Canadian Sporting Arms and Ammunition Association (CSAAA). Al Taylor, Vice-President/General Manager, Savage Arms Canada. Thanos Polyzos, Vice-President, Para-Ordnance Manufacturing Inc. Normand Héroux, Director, ``Administration de la prévention'', ``Technologies industrielles SNC Inc.''; Claude Daigneault, Vice-president, National Sales; Denis Renaud, Technologist.
In accordance with its mandate under Standing Order 32(5), (Wednesday, November 27, 1996), and section 118 of the Firearms Act, S.C. 1995, c. 39, the Sub-Committee resumed consideration of the following Draft Regulations:
Firearms Licences Regulations (SOR 96-458-01), Non-Prohibited Ammunition Transfer Document Regulations (SOR 96-224-01), Storage, Display, Transportation and Handling of Firearms by Individuals Regulations (SOR 96-216-02), Storage, Display and Transportation of Firearms and Other Weapons by Businesses Regulations (SOR 96-564-01), Authorizations to Transport Restricted Firearms and Prohibited Firearms Regulations (SOR 96-243-02), Authorizations to Carry Restricted Firearms and Certain Handguns Regulations (SOR 96-242-02), Authorization to Export or Import Firearms Regulations (Businesses) (SOR 96-560-01), Conditions of Transferring Firearms and Other Weapons Regulations (SOR 96-566-01), Firearms Records Regulations (SOR 96-584-01), Aboriginal Peoples of Canada Adaptations Regulations (Firearms) (SOR 96-585-02), Firearms Fees Regulations (SOR 96-268-02) (See Minutes of Proceedings dated Monday, December 2, 1996, Issue No. 1).
GENERAL FIREARMS BUSINESS
Claude Daigneault and Normand Héroux from ``Technologies industrielles SNC Inc.'' each made an opening statement and with Denis Renaud, answered questions.
René J.J. Roberge from Canadian Sporting Arms and Ammunition Association made an opening statement and answered questions.
Thomas Polyzos from Para-Ordnance Manufacturing Inc. made an opening statement and answered questions.
Al Taylor from Savage Arms Canada made an opening statement and answered questions.
At 5:37 o'clock p.m., the Sub-Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.
Jacques Lahaie
Committee Clerk
THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 6, 1997
(Meeting No. 15)
(Meeting No. 15)
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The Sub-Committee on the Draft Regulations on Firearms of the Standing Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs met at 9:14 o'clock a.m. this day, in Room 237-C, Centre Block, the Chair, Russell MacLellan, presiding.
Members of the Sub-Committee present: Gordon Kirkby, Russell MacLellan, John Maloney and Susan Whelan.
Acting Members present: Jack Frazer for Jack Ramsay and Roger Pomerleau for Pierre de Savoye.
In attendance: From the Research Branch of the Library of Parliament: Gérald Lafrenière, Research Officer.
Witnesses: Jim Adam, Member; Terry Burns, Member, Steve Torino, Vice-President, User Advisory Group on Firearms (UAGF). Bruce Phillips, Privacy Commissioner of Canada; Holly Harris, General Counsel.
In accordance with its mandate under Standing Order 32(5), (Wednesday, November 27, 1996), and section 118 of the Firearms Act, S.C. 1995, c. 39, the Sub-Committee resumed consideration of the following Draft Regulations:
Firearms Licences Regulations (SOR 96-458-01), Non-Prohibited Ammunition Transfer Document Regulations (SOR 96-224-01), Storage, Display, Transportation and Handling of Firearms by Individuals Regulations (SOR 96-216-02), Storage, Display and Transportation of Firearms and Other Weapons by Businesses Regulations (SOR 96-564-01), Authorizations to Transport Restricted Firearms and Prohibited Firearms Regulations (SOR 96-243-02), Authorizations to Carry Restricted Firearms and Certain Handguns Regulations (SOR 96-242-02), Authorization to Export or Import Firearms Regulations (Businesses) (SOR 96-560-01), Conditions of Transferring Firearms and Other Weapons Regulations (SOR 96-566-01), Firearms Records Regulations (SOR 96-584-01), Aboriginal Peoples of Canada Adaptations Regulations (Firearms) (SOR 96-585-02), Firearms Fees Regulations (SOR 96-268-02) (See Minutes of Proceedings dated Monday, December 2, 1996, Issue No. 1).
USER ADVISORY GROUP ON FIREARMS (UAGF)
Jim Adam from the User Advisory Group on Firearms (UAGF) made an opening statement and, with Steve Torino and Terry Burns, answered questions.
At 10:12 o'clock a.m., the sitting was suspended.
At 10:15 o'clock a.m., the sitting resumed.
PRIVACY
Bruce Phillips from the Office of the Privacy Commissioner of Canada made an opening statement and, with Holly Harris, answered questions.
At 11:14 o'clock a.m., the Sub-Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.
Richard Dupuis
Clerk of the Sub-Committee
Luc Fortin
Committee Clerk
THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 6, 1997
(Meeting No. 16)
(Meeting No. 16)
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The Sub-Committee on the Draft Regulations on Firearms of the Standing Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs met at 11:24 o'clock a.m. this day, in Room 237-C, Centre Block, John Maloney, presiding.
Members of the Sub-Committee present: Pierre de Savoye, Gordon Kirkby, John Maloney, Jack Ramsay and Susan Whelan.
Other Member present: Roger Pomerleau.
In attendance: From the Research Branch of the Library of Parliament: Gérald Lafrenière, Research Officer.
Witnesses: From the Department of Justice: Richard G. Mosley, Q.C., Assistant Deputy Minister, Criminal Policy; William C. Bartlett, Counsel, Canadian Firearms Centre.
In accordance with its mandate under Standing Order 32(5), (Wednesday, November 27, 1996), and section 118 of the Firearms Act, S.C. 1995, c. 39, the Sub-Committee resumed consideration of the following Draft Regulations:
Firearms Licences Regulations (SOR 96-458-01), Non-Prohibited Ammunition Transfer Document Regulations (SOR 96-224-01), Storage, Display, Transportation and Handling of Firearms by Individuals Regulations (SOR 96-216-02), Storage, Display and Transportation of Firearms and Other Weapons by Businesses Regulations (SOR 96-564-01), Authorizations to Transport Restricted Firearms and Prohibited Firearms Regulations (SOR 96-243-02), Authorizations to Carry Restricted Firearms and Certain Handguns Regulations (SOR 96-242-02), Authorization to Export or Import Firearms Regulations (Businesses) (SOR 96-560-01), Conditions of Transferring Firearms and Other Weapons Regulations (SOR 96-566-01), Firearms Records Regulations (SOR 96-584-01), Aboriginal Peoples of Canada Adaptations Regulations (Firearms) (SOR 96-585-02), Firearms Fees Regulations (SOR 96-268-02) (See Minutes of Proceedings dated Monday, December 2, 1996, Issue No. 1).
Richard G. Mosley, Q.C., made an opening statement and, with William C. Bartlett, answered questions.
At 12:20 o'clock p.m., the Sub-Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.
TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 11, 1997
(Meeting No. 17)
The Evidence for this meeting is not available because it was held in camera.
(Meeting No. 17)
The Evidence for this meeting is not available because it was held in camera.
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The Sub-Committee on the Draft Regulations on Firearms of the Standing Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs met in camera at 10:10 o'clock a.m. this day, in Room 208, West Block, the Chairman, Russell MacLellan, presiding.
Members of the Sub-Committee present: Pierre de Savoye Gordon Kirkby, Russell MacLellan and John Maloney.
Acting Members present: Dale Johnston for Jack Ramsay and Peter Thalheimer for Susan Whelan.
In attendance: From the Research Branch of the Library of Parliament: Gérald Lafrenière, Research Officer.
In accordance with its mandate under Standing Order 32(5) (Wednesday, November 27, 1996), and section 118 of the Firearms Act, S.C. 1995, c. 39, the Sub-Committee resumed consideration of the following Draft Regulations:
Firearms Licences Regulations (SOR 96-458-01), Non-Prohibited Ammunition Transfer Document Regulations (SOR 96-224-01), Storage, Display, Transportation and Handling of Firearms by Individuals Regulations (SOR 96-216-02), Storage, Display and Transportation of Firearms and Other Weapons by Businesses Regulations (SOR 96-564-01), Authorizations to Transport Restricted Firearms and Prohibited Fireams Regulations (SOR 96-243-02), Authorizations to Carry Restricted Firearms and Certain Handguns Regulations (SOR 96-242-02), Authorization to Export or Import Firearms Regulations (Businesses) (SOR 96-560-01), Conditions of Transferring Firearms and Other Weapons Regulations (SOR 96-566-01), Firearms Records Regulations (SOR 96-584-01), Aboriginal Peoples of Canada Adaptations Regulations (Firearms) (SOR 96-585-02), Firearms Fees Regulations (SOR 96-268-02) (See Minutes of Proceedings dated Monday, December 2, 1996, Issue No. 1).
The Sub-Committee proceeded to the consideration of its Draft Report.
At 11:10 o'clock a.m., the Sub-Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.
THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 13, 1997
(Meeting No. 18)
The Evidence for this meeting is not available because it was held in camera.
(Meeting No. 18)
The Evidence for this meeting is not available because it was held in camera.
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The Sub-Committee on the Draft Regulations on Firearms of the Standing Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs met in camera at 9:35 o'clock a.m. this day, in Room 208, West Block, the Chair, Russell MacLellan, presiding.
Members of the Sub-Committee present: Gordon Kirkby, Russell MacLellan, John Maloney, and Jack Ramsay.
Acting Member present: Stéphan Tremblay for Pierre de Savoye.
In attendance: From the Research Branch of the Library of Parliament: Gérald Lafrenière, Research Officer.
In accordance with its mandate under Standing Order 32(5), (Wednesday, November 27, 1996), and section 118 of the Firearms Act, S.C. 1995, c. 39, the Sub-Committee resumed consideration of the following Draft Regulations:
Firearms Licences Regulations (SOR 96-458-01), Non-Prohibited Ammunition Transfer Document Regulations (SOR 96-224-01), Storage, Display, Transportation and Handling of Firearms by Individuals Regulations (SOR 96-216-02), Storage, Display and Transportation of Firearms and Other Weapons by Businesses Regulations (SOR 96-564-01), Authorizations to Transport Restricted Firearms and Prohibited Firearms Regulations (SOR 96-243-02), Authorizations to Carry Restricted Firearms and Certain Handguns Regulations (SOR 96-242-02), Authorization to Export or Import Firearms Regulations (Businesses) (SOR 96-560-01), Conditions of Transferring Firearms and Other Weapons Regulations (SOR 96-566-01), Firearms Records Regulations (SOR 96-584-01), Aboriginal Peoples of Canada Adaptations Regulations (Firearms) (SOR 96-585-02), Firearms Fees Regulations (SOR 96-268-02) (See Minutes of Proceedings dated Monday, December 2, 1996, Issue No. 1).
The Sub-Committee proceeded to the consideration of its Draft Report.
At 11:00 o'clock a.m., the Sub-Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.
TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 18, 1997
(Meeting No. 19)
The Evidence for this meeting is not available because it was held in camera.
(Meeting No. 19)
The Evidence for this meeting is not available because it was held in camera.
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The Sub-Committee on the Draft Regulations on Firearms of the Standing Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs met in camera at 9:44 o'clock a.m. this day, in Room 536, Wellington Bldg., the Chair, Russell MacLellan, presiding.
Members of the Sub-Committee present: Pierre de Savoye, Gordon Kirkby, Russell MacLellan, John Maloney, and Jack Ramsay.
Acting Members present: Mary Clancy and Ian Murray for Susan Whelan.
In attendance: From the Research Branch of the Library of Parliament: Gérald Lafrenière, Research Officer.
In accordance with its mandate under Standing Order 32(5), (Wednesday, November 27, 1996), and section 118 of the Firearms Act, S.C. 1995, c. 39, the Sub-Committee resumed consideration of the following Draft Regulations:
Firearms Licences Regulations (SOR 96-458-01), Non-Prohibited Ammunition Transfer Document Regulations (SOR 96-224-01), Storage, Display, Transportation and Handling of Firearms by Individuals Regulations (SOR 96-216-02), Storage, Display and Transportation of Firearms and Other Weapons by Businesses Regulations (SOR 96-564-01), Authorizations to Transport Restricted Firearms and Prohibited Firearms Regulations (SOR 96-243-02), Authorizations to Carry Restricted Firearms and Certain Handguns Regulations (SOR 96-242-02), Authorization to Export or Import Firearms Regulations (Businesses) (SOR 96-560-01), Conditions of Transferring Firearms and Other Weapons Regulations (SOR 96-566-01), Firearms Records Regulations (SOR 96-584-01), Aboriginal Peoples of Canada Adaptations Regulations (Firearms) (SOR 96-585-02), Firearms Fees Regulations (SOR 96-268-02). (See Minutes of Proceedings dated Monday, December 2, 1996, Issue No. 1).
The Sub-Committee resumed consideration of its Draft Report.
At 11:45 o'clock a.m., the sitting was suspended.
At 12:04 o'clock p.m., the sitting resumed.
John Maloney moved,--That the Draft Report, as amended, be concurred in.
Gordon Kirkby moved,--That the Chair present the Report to the Full Committee.
John Maloney moved,--That the Chair be authorized to make such grammatical and editorial changes to the Report as may be necessary without changing the substance of the Report.
Gordon Kirkby moved,--That, pursuant to Standing Order 109, the Sub-Committee request that the Government provide a comprehensive response to this Report.
At 2:00 o'clock p.m., the Sub-Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.
Richard Dupuis
Clerk of the Sub-Committee