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HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA
35TH PARLIAMENT, 1st SESSION


JOURNALS

No. 145

Thursday, December 15, 1994

10:00 a.m.



PRAYERS

NOTICES OF MOTIONS FOR THE PRODUCTION OF PAPERS

Pursuant to Order made Wednesday, December 14, 1994, the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the motion of Mr. Richardson (Perth -- Wellington -- Waterloo), seconded by Mr. Patry (Pierrefonds -- Dollard), -- That an Order of the House do issue for a copy of the December 9, 1994, report of the Security Intelligence Review Committee entitled ``The Heritage Front Affair'', subject only to the removal of that information relating to the amount and management of payments to sources which, if disclosed, could, in the opinion of the Solicitor General, impair the ability of the Canadian Security and Intelligence Service to obtain information from sources that is strictly necessary to its duties and functions, and having regard to subsection 18(2) of the Canadian Security and Intelligence Service Act and paragraph 8(2)(c) of the Privacy Act. (Notices of Motions for the Production of Papers P-3)

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 148)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Ablonczy -- Adams -- Allmand -- Althouse -- Anawak -- Anderson -- Assadourian -- Axworthy (Saskatoon -- Clark's Crossing) -- Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bellemare -- Benoit -- Berger -- Bertrand -- Bethel -- Bhaduria -- Blaikie -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Boudria -- Breitkreuz (Yellowhead) -- Bridgman -- Brown (Calgary Southeast) -- Brown (Oakville -- Milton) -- Brushett -- Bryden -- Caccia -- Campbell -- Catterall -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Chatters -- Chrétien (Saint-Maurice) -- Copps -- Cowling -- Crawford -- Culbert -- Cummins -- de Jong -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dingwall -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Duhamel -- Duncan -- Easter -- Eggleton -- English -- Fewchuk -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Flis -- Fontana -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Fry -- Gaffney -- Gagliano -- Gagnon (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine) -- Gallaway -- Gerrard -- Gilmour -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Gouk -- Graham -- Gray (Windsor West) -- Grey (Beaver River) -- Grose -- Grubel -- Guarnieri -- Hanger -- Hanrahan -- Harb -- Harper (Calgary West) -- Harper (Simcoe Centre) -- Harris -- Hart -- Harvard -- Hayes -- Hermanson -- Hickey -- Hill (Macleod) -- Hill (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Jordan -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lavigne (Verdun -- Saint-Paul) -- Lincoln -- Loney -- MacAulay -- MacDonald -- MacLaren (Etobicoke North) -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Manning -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- Mayfield -- McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) -- McGuire -- McKinnon -- McLaughlin -- McLellan (Edmonton Northwest) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Meredith -- Milliken -- Mills (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Mills (Red Deer) -- Mitchell -- Murphy -- Murray -- O'Brien -- O'Reilly -- Ouellet -- Pagtakhan -- Parrish -- Patry -- Payne -- Penson -- Peric -- Peters -- Peterson -- Phinney -- Pickard (Essex -- Kent) -- Pillitteri -- Proud -- Ramsay -- Reed -- Regan -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Ringma -- Rock -- Schmidt -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Silye -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart (Brant) -- Stewart (Northumberland) -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Taylor -- Telegdi -- Thalheimer -- Thompson -- Tobin -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Verran -- Volpe -- Walker -- Wappel -- Wells -- Whelan -- Williams -- Wood -- Young -- Zed -- 185

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Asselin -- Bachand -- Bélisle -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Gaspé) -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Brien -- Canuel -- Caron -- Chrétien (Frontenac) -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Debien -- de Savoye -- Deshaies -- Dumas -- Fillion -- Gagnon (Québec) -- Gauthier (Roberval) -- Godin -- Guay -- Guimond -- Jacob -- Landry -- Langlois -- Laurin -- Lavigne (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- Lebel -- Leblanc (Longueuil) -- Lefebvre -- Leroux (Shefford) -- Loubier -- Marchand -- Mercier -- Ménard -- Nunez -- Paré -- Picard (Drummond) -- Pomerleau -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- St-Laurent -- Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- 42

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Bevilacqua -- Bouchard -- Clancy -- Crête -- Dubé -- Dupuy -- Lalonde -- LeBlanc (Cape/Cap Breton Highlands -- -- -- -- Canso)

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

Pursuant to Standing Order 45(5)(a), the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded divisions at report stage of Bill C-53, An Act to establish the Department of Canadian Heritage and to amend and repeal certain other Acts, as reported by the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage with amendments.

Group No. 1

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 8 of Mrs. Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata), seconded by Mrs. Gagnon (Québec), -- That Bill C-53 be amended by deleting Clause 4.

The question was put on Motion No. 8 and it was negatived on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 149)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Asselin -- Bachand -- Bélisle -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Gaspé) -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Brien -- Canuel -- Caron -- Chrétien (Frontenac) -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Debien -- de Savoye -- Deshaies -- Dumas -- Fillion -- Gagnon (Québec) -- Gauthier (Roberval) -- Godin -- Guay -- Guimond -- Jacob -- Landry -- Langlois -- Laurin -- Lavigne (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- Lebel -- Leblanc (Longueuil) -- Lefebvre -- Leroux (Shefford) -- Loubier -- Marchand -- Mercier -- Ménard -- Nunez -- Paré -- Picard (Drummond) -- Pomerleau -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- St-Laurent -- Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- 42

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Ablonczy -- Adams -- Allmand -- Althouse -- Anawak -- Anderson -- Assadourian -- Axworthy (Saskatoon -- Clark's Crossing) -- Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bellemare -- Benoit -- Berger -- Bertrand -- Bethel -- Bhaduria -- Blaikie -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Boudria -- Breitkreuz (Yellowhead) -- Bridgman -- Brown (Calgary Southeast) -- Brown (Oakville -- Milton) -- Brushett -- Bryden -- Caccia -- Campbell -- Catterall -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Chatters -- Chrétien (Saint-Maurice) -- Copps -- Cowling -- Crawford -- Culbert -- Cummins -- de Jong -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dingwall -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Duhamel -- Duncan -- Easter -- Eggleton -- English -- Fewchuk -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Flis -- Fontana -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Fry -- Gaffney -- Gagliano -- Gagnon (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine) -- Gallaway -- Gerrard -- Gilmour -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Gouk -- Graham -- Gray (Windsor West) -- Grey (Beaver River) -- Grose -- Grubel -- Guarnieri -- Hanger -- Hanrahan -- Harb -- Harper (Calgary West) -- Harper (Simcoe Centre) -- Harris -- Hart -- Harvard -- Hayes -- Hermanson -- Hickey -- Hill (Macleod) -- Hill (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Jordan -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lavigne (Verdun -- Saint-Paul) -- Lee -- Lincoln -- Loney -- MacAulay -- MacDonald -- MacLaren (Etobicoke North) -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Manning -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- Mayfield -- McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) -- McGuire -- McKinnon -- McLaughlin -- McLellan (Edmonton Northwest) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Meredith -- Milliken -- Mills (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Mills (Red Deer) -- Mitchell -- Murphy -- Murray -- O'Brien -- O'Reilly -- Ouellet -- Pagtakhan -- Parrish -- Patry -- Payne -- Penson -- Peric -- Peters -- Peterson -- Phinney -- Pickard (Essex -- Kent) -- Pillitteri -- Proud -- Ramsay -- Reed -- Regan -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Ringma -- Rock -- Schmidt -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Silye -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart (Brant) -- Stewart (Northumberland) -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Taylor -- Telegdi -- Thalheimer -- Thompson -- Tobin -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Verran -- Volpe -- Walker -- Wappel -- Wells -- Whelan -- Williams -- Wood -- Young -- Zed -- 186

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Bevilacqua -- Bouchard -- Clancy -- Crête -- Dubé -- Dupuy -- Lalonde -- LeBlanc (Cape/Cap Breton Highlands -- -- -- -- Canso)

Accordingly, Motion No. 10 was also negatived on the same division.

The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 1 of Mrs. Gagnon (Québec), seconded by Mrs. Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata), -- That Bill C-53, in Clause 4, be amended by replacing lines 19 to 24, on page 1, and lines 1 and 2, on page 2, with the following:

      ``4. (1) Subject to subsection (2), the powers, duties and functions of the Minister extend to and include all matters over which Parliament has jurisdiction, not by law assigned to any other department, board or agency of the Government of Canada, relating
      (a) to Canadian identity and the identity of Quebec;
      (b) to the values, cultural development and heritage of Canada and of Quebec; and
      (c) to areas of natural or historical significance to Canada or Quebec.
      (2) The Minister shall not exercise the powers and perform the duties and functions assigned to the Minister by the Act, unless the Minister has received the approval of the government of every province where
      (a) the government of the province has enacted legislation or established a provincial program in a matter over which Parliament has jurisdiction under subsection (1); or
      (b) the government of the province has notified the Minister in writing of its intention to enact such legislation or to establish such a program.''

The question was put on Motion No. 1 and it was negatived on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 150)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Asselin -- Bachand -- Bélisle -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Gaspé) -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Brien -- Canuel -- Caron -- Chrétien (Frontenac) -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Debien -- de Savoye -- Deshaies -- Dumas -- Fillion -- Gagnon (Québec) -- Gauthier (Roberval) -- Godin -- Guay -- Guimond -- Jacob -- Landry -- Langlois -- Laurin -- Lavigne (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- Lebel -- Leblanc (Longueuil) -- Lefebvre -- Leroux (Shefford) -- Loubier -- Marchand -- Mercier -- Ménard -- Nunez -- Paré -- Picard (Drummond) -- Pomerleau -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- St-Laurent -- Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- 42

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Ablonczy -- Adams -- Allmand -- Althouse -- Anawak -- Anderson -- Assadourian -- Axworthy (Saskatoon -- Clark's Crossing) -- Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bellemare -- Benoit -- Berger -- Bertrand -- Bethel -- Bhaduria -- Blaikie -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Boudria -- Breitkreuz (Yellowhead) -- Bridgman -- Brown (Calgary Southeast) -- Brown (Oakville -- Milton) -- Brushett -- Bryden -- Caccia -- Campbell -- Catterall -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Chatters -- Chrétien (Saint-Maurice) -- Copps -- Cowling -- Crawford -- Culbert -- Cummins -- de Jong -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dingwall -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Duhamel -- Duncan -- Easter -- Eggleton -- English -- Fewchuk -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Flis -- Fontana -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Fry -- Gaffney -- Gagliano -- Gagnon (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine) -- Gallaway -- Gerrard -- Gilmour -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Gouk -- Graham -- Gray (Windsor West) -- Grey (Beaver River) -- Grose -- Grubel -- Guarnieri -- Hanger -- Hanrahan -- Harb -- Harper (Calgary West) -- Harper (Simcoe Centre) -- Harris -- Hart -- Harvard -- Hayes -- Hermanson -- Hickey -- Hill (Macleod) -- Hill (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Jordan -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lavigne (Verdun -- Saint-Paul) -- Lee -- Lincoln -- Loney -- MacAulay -- MacDonald -- MacLaren (Etobicoke North) -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Manning -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- Mayfield -- McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) -- McGuire -- McKinnon -- McLaughlin -- McLellan (Edmonton Northwest) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Meredith -- Milliken -- Mills (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Mills (Red Deer) -- Mitchell -- Murphy -- Murray -- O'Brien -- O'Reilly -- Ouellet -- Pagtakhan -- Parrish -- Patry -- Payne -- Penson -- Peric -- Peters -- Peterson -- Phinney -- Pickard (Essex -- Kent) -- Pillitteri -- Proud -- Ramsay -- Reed -- Regan -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Ringma -- Rock -- Schmidt -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Silye -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart (Brant) -- Stewart (Northumberland) -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Taylor -- Telegdi -- Thalheimer -- Thompson -- Tobin -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Verran -- Volpe -- Walker -- Wappel -- Wells -- Whelan -- Wood -- Young -- Zed -- 185

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Bevilacqua -- Bouchard -- Clancy -- Crête -- Dubé -- Dupuy -- Lalonde -- LeBlanc (Cape/Cap Breton Highlands -- -- -- -- Canso)

Accordingly, Motion No. 9 was also negatived on the same division.

The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 2 of Mrs. Brown (Calgary Southeast), seconded by Mr. Hanrahan (Edmonton -- Strathcona), -- That Bill C-53, in Clause 4, be amended by deleting lines 6 to 8, on page 2.

The question was put on Motion No. 2 and it was negatived on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 151)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Ablonczy -- Benoit -- Breitkreuz (Yellowhead) -- Bridgman -- Brown (Calgary Southeast) -- Chatters -- Cummins -- Duncan -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Gilmour -- Gouk -- Grey (Beaver River) -- Grubel -- Hanger -- Hanrahan -- Harper (Calgary West) -- Harper (Simcoe Centre) -- Harris -- Hart -- Hayes -- Hermanson -- Hill (Macleod) -- Hill (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Manning -- Mayfield -- McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) -- Meredith -- Mills (Red Deer) -- Penson -- Ramsay -- Ringma -- Schmidt -- Silye -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Thompson -- 38

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Allmand -- Althouse -- Anawak -- Anderson -- Assadourian -- Asselin -- Axworthy (Saskatoon -- Clark's Crossing) -- -- Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bachand -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélisle -- Bellemare -- Berger -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Gaspé) -- Bernier (MéganticComptonStanstead) -- Bertrand -- Bethel -- Bhaduria -- Blaikie -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Boudria -- Brien -- Brown (Oakville -- Milton) -- Brushett -- Bryden -- Caccia -- Campbell -- Caccia -- Campbell -- Canuel -- Caron -- Catterall -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Chrétien (Frontenac) -- Chrétien (Saint-Maurice) -- Copps -- Cowling -- Crawford -- Culbert -- DalphondGuiral -- Debien -- de Jong -- de Savoye -- Deshaies -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dingwall -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Duhamel -- Dumas -- Easter -- Eggleton -- English -- Fewchuk -- Fillion -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Flis -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gaffney -- Gagliano -- Gagnon (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine) -- Gagnon (Québec) -- Gallaway -- Gauthier (Roberval) -- Gerrard -- Godfrey -- Godin -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray (Windsor West) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Guay -- Guimond -- Harb -- Harvard -- Hickey -- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Jacob -- Jordan -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Landry -- Langlois -- Lastewka -- Laurin -- Lavigne (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- Lavigne (Verdun -- Saint-Paul) -- Lebel -- Leblanc (Longueuil) -- Lee -- Lefebvre -- Leroux (Shefford) -- Lincoln -- Loney -- Loubier -- MacAulay -- MacDonald -- MacLaren (Etobicoke North) -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marchand -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McGuire -- McKinnon -- McLaughlin -- McLellan (Edmonton Northwest) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Milliken -- Mills (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Mitchell -- Murphy -- Murray -- Nunez -- O'Brien -- O'Reilly -- Ouellet -- Pagtakhan -- Paré -- Parrish -- Patry -- Payne -- Peric -- Peters -- Peterson -- Phinney -- Picard (Drummond) -- Pickard (Essex -- Kent) -- Pillitteri -- Pomerleau -- Proud -- Reed -- Regan -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Rocheleau -- Rock -- Sauvageau -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart (Brant) -- Stewart (Northumberland) -- StLaurent -- Szabo -- Taylor -- Telegdi -- Thalheimer -- Tobin -- Torsney -- Tremblay (RimouskiTémiscouata) -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Verran -- Volpe -- Walker -- Wappel -- Wells -- Whelan -- Wood -- Young -- Zed -- 189

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Bevilacqua -- Bouchard -- Clancy -- Crête -- Dubé -- Dupuy -- Lalonde -- LeBlanc (Cape/Cap Breton Highlands -- -- -- -- Canso)

The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 3 of Mrs. Brown (Calgary Southeast), seconded by Mr. Hanrahan (Edmonton -- Strathcona), -- That Bill C-53, in Clause 4, be amended by deleting line 9, on page 2.

The question was put on Motion No. 3 and it was negatived on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 152)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Ablonczy -- Asselin -- Bachand -- Bélisle -- Benoit -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Gaspé) -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Breitkreuz (Yellowhead) -- Bridgman -- Brien -- Brown (Calgary Southeast) -- Canuel -- Caron -- Chatters -- Chrétien (Frontenac) -- Cummins -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Debien -- de Savoye -- Deshaies -- Dumas -- Duncan -- Fillion -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Gagnon (Québec) -- Gauthier (Roberval) -- Gilmour -- Godin -- Gouk -- Grey (Beaver River) -- Grubel -- Guay -- Guimond -- Hanger -- Hanrahan -- Harper (Calgary West) -- Harper (Simcoe Centre) -- Harris -- Hart -- Hayes -- Hermanson -- Hill (Macleod) -- Hill (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Jacob -- Landry -- Langlois -- Laurin -- Lavigne (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- Lebel -- Leblanc (Longueuil) -- Lefebvre -- Leroux (Shefford) -- Loubier -- Manning -- Marchand -- Mayfield -- McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) -- Mercier -- Meredith -- Mills (Red Deer) -- Ménard -- Nunez -- Paré -- Penson -- Picard (Drummond) -- Pomerleau -- Ramsay -- Ringma -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Schmidt -- Silye -- St-Laurent -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Thompson -- Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- 80

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Allmand -- Althouse -- Anawak -- Anderson -- Assadourian -- Axworthy (Saskatoon -- Clark's Crossing) -- Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bellemare -- Berger -- Bertrand -- Bethel -- Bhaduria -- Blaikie -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Boudria -- Brown (Oakville -- Milton) -- Brushett -- Bryden -- Caccia -- Campbell -- Catterall -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Chrétien (Saint-Maurice) -- Copps -- Cowling -- Crawford -- Culbert -- de Jong -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dingwall -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Duhamel -- Easter -- Eggleton -- English -- Fewchuk -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Flis -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gaffney -- Gagliano -- Gagnon (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine) -- Gallaway -- Gerrard -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray (Windsor West) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Harvard -- Hickey -- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Jordan -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lavigne (Verdun -- Saint-Paul) -- Lee -- Lincoln -- Loney -- MacAulay -- MacDonald -- MacLaren (Etobicoke North) -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McGuire -- McKinnon -- McLaughlin -- McLellan (Edmonton Northwest) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Milliken -- Mills (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Mitchell -- Murphy -- Murray -- O'Brien -- O'Reilly -- Ouellet -- Pagtakhan -- Parrish -- Patry -- Payne -- Peric -- Peters -- Peterson -- Phinney -- Pickard (Essex -- Kent) -- Pillitteri -- Proud -- Reed -- Regan -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Rock -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart (Brant) -- Stewart (Northumberland) -- Szabo -- Taylor -- Telegdi -- Thalheimer -- Tobin -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Verran -- Volpe -- Walker -- Wappel -- Wells -- Whelan -- Wood -- Young -- Zed -- 147

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Bevilacqua -- Bouchard -- Clancy -- Crête -- Dubé -- Dupuy -- Lalonde LeBlanc (Cape/Cap Breton Highlands -- Canso)

The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 4 of Mrs. Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata), seconded by Mrs. Gagnon (Québec), -- That Bill C-53, in Clause 4, be amended by adding after line 11, on page 2, the following:

    ``(c.1) copyrights;''.

The question was put on Motion No. 4 and it was negatived on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 153)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Althouse -- Asselin -- Axworthy (Saskatoon -- Clark's Crossing) -- Bachand -- Bélisle -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Gaspé) -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Blaikie -- Brien -- Canuel -- Caron -- Chrétien (Frontenac) -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Debien -- de Jong -- de Savoye -- Deshaies -- Dumas -- Fillion -- Gagnon (Québec) -- Gauthier (Roberval) -- Godin -- Guay -- Guimond -- Jacob -- Landry -- Langlois -- Laurin -- Lavigne (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- Lebel -- Leblanc (Longueuil) -- Lefebvre -- Leroux (Shefford) -- Loubier -- Marchand -- McLaughlin -- Mercier -- Ménard -- Nunez -- Paré -- Picard (Drummond) -- Pomerleau -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- St-Laurent -- Taylor -- Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- 48

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Ablonczy -- Adams -- Allmand -- Anawak -- Anderson -- Assadourian -- Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bellemare -- Benoit -- Berger -- Bertrand -- Bethel -- Bhaduria -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Boudria -- Breitkreuz (Yellowhead) -- Bridgman -- Brown (Calgary Southeast) -- Brown (Oakville -- Milton) -- Brushett -- Bryden -- Caccia -- Campbell -- Catterall -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Chatters -- Chrétien (Saint-Maurice) -- Copps -- Cowling -- Crawford -- Culbert -- Cummins -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dingwall -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Duhamel -- Duncan -- Easter -- Eggleton -- English -- Fewchuk -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Flis -- Fontana -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Fry -- Gaffney -- Gagliano -- Gagnon (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine) -- Gallaway -- Gerrard -- Gilmour -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Gouk -- Graham -- Gray (Windsor West) -- Grey (Beaver River) -- Grose -- Grubel -- Guarnieri -- Hanger -- Hanrahan -- Harb -- Harper (Calgary West) -- Harper (Simcoe Centre) -- Harris -- Hart -- Harvard -- Hayes -- Hermanson -- Hickey -- Hill (Macleod) -- Hill (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Jordan -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lavigne (Verdun -- Saint-Paul) -- Lee -- Lincoln -- Loney -- MacAulay -- MacDonald -- MacLaren (Etobicoke North) -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Manning -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- Mayfield -- McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) -- McGuire -- McKinnon -- McLellan (Edmonton Northwest) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Meredith -- Milliken -- Mills (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Mills (Red Deer) -- Mitchell -- Murphy -- Murray -- O'Brien -- O'Reilly -- Ouellet -- Pagtakhan -- Parrish -- Patry -- Payne -- Penson -- Peric -- Peters -- Peterson -- Phinney -- Pickard (Essex -- Kent) -- Pillitteri -- Proud -- Ramsay -- Reed -- Regan -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Ringma -- Rock -- Schmidt -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Silye -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart (Brant) -- Stewart (Northumberland) -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thalheimer -- Thompson -- Tobin -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Verran -- Volpe -- Walker -- Wappel -- Wells -- Whelan -- Wood -- Young -- Zed -- 179

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Bevilacqua -- Bouchard -- Clancy -- Crête -- Dubé -- Dupuy -- Lalonde -- LeBlanc (Cape/Cap Breton Highlands -- Canso)

The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 5 of Mrs. Brown (Calgary Southeast), seconded by Mr. Hanrahan (Edmonton -- Strathcona), -- That Bill C-53, in Clause 4, be amended by replacing lines 16 to 18, on page 2, with the following:

    ``(e) national historic sites, national battlefields, heritage''.

The question was put on Motion No. 5 and it was negatived on the following division:

      YEAS: 80, NAYS: 147. (See list under division No. 152)

Accordingly, Motion No. 21 was also negatived on the same division.

The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 6 of Mrs. Brown (Calgary Southeast), seconded by Mr. Hanrahan (Edmonton -- Strathcona), -- That Bill C-53, in Clause 4, be amended by replacing lines 23 to 27, on page 2, with the following:

    ``(g) the promotion of language policies centred
      (i) on freedom of speech,
      (ii) on recognition of the French language in Quebec and the English language in the other provinces,
      (iii) on recognition of bilingualism in key federal institutions, such as the Parliament of Canada and the Supreme Court of Canada, and
      (iv) on recognition of bilingualism where the number of citizens is sufficient to warrant the provision to them of services in both official languages;''.

The question was put on Motion No. 6 and it was negatived on the following division:

      YEAS: 38, NAYS: 189. (See list under division No. 151)

The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 7 of Mrs. Brown (Calgary Southeast), seconded by Mr. Hanrahan (Edmonton -- Strathcona), -- That Bill C-53, in Clause 4, be amended by replacing new paragraph (2)(j) with the following:

    ``(j) the formulation of cultural policy as it relates to foreign investment;''.

The question was put on Motion No. 7 and it was negatived on the following division:

      YEAS: 38, NAYS: 189. (See list under division No. 151)

Group No. 2

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 11 of Mrs. Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata), seconded by Mrs. Gagnon (Québec), -- That Bill C-53 be amended by deleting Clause 6.

The question was put on Motion No. 11 and it was negatived on the following division:

      YEAS: 42, NAYS: 185. (See list under division No. 150)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 12 of Mrs. Brown (Calgary Southeast), seconded by Mr. Hanrahan (Edmonton -- Strathcona), -- That Bill C-53, in Clause 7, be amended by deleting lines 11 to 13, on page 3.

The question was put on Motion No. 12 and it was negatived on the following division:

      YEAS: 38, NAYS: 189. (See list under division No. 151)

The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 13 of Mrs. Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata), seconded by Mrs. Gagnon (Québec), -- That Bill C-53 be amended by deleting Clause 7.

The question was put on Motion No. 13 and it was negatived on the following division:

      YEAS: 42, NAYS: 185. (See list under division No. 150)

Group No. 3

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 14 of Mrs. Brown (Calgary Southeast), seconded by Mr. Hanrahan (Edmonton -- Strathcona), -- That Bill C-53 be amended by deleting new Clause 8.

The question was put on Motion No. 14 and it was negatived on the following division:

      YEAS: 80, NAYS: 147. (See list under division No. 152)

Accordingly, Motions Nos. 15, 16, 18 and 19 were also negatived on the same division.

The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 17 of Mrs. Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata), seconded by Mrs. Gagnon (Québec), -- That Bill C-53 be amended by adding after new subclause 8.3(1) the following:

      ``(1.1) The Minister shall, at least 60 days before the date on which the Minister fixes or increases a fee under section 8, 8.1 or 8.2, cause to be published in the Canada Gazette by such appropriate electronic or other means that the Treasury Board may authorize by regulation and in no fewer than two leading newspapers in each province a notice clearly indicating
      (a) the products, services, rights, privileges, regulatory processes, approvals or use of facilities provided under these sections; and
      (b) the fees to be fixed or increased pursuant to these sections.''

The question was put on Motion No. 17 and it was negatived on the following division:

      YEAS: 42, NAYS: 185. (See list under division No. 150)

Group No. 4

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 20 of Mrs. Brown (Calgary Southeast), seconded by Mr. Hermanson (Kindersley -- Lloydminster), -- That Bill C-53 be amended by adding after new Clause 8.4 the following new Clause:

      ``8.5 The Minister shall cause to be laid before each House of Parliament, not later than the fifth sitting day of that House after January 31 next following the end of each fiscal year, a report showing the operations of the Department for that fiscal year.''

The question was put on Motion No. 20 and it was negatived on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 154)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Ablonczy -- Althouse -- Asselin -- Axworthy (Saskatoon -- Clark's Crossing) -- Bachand -- Bélisle -- Benoit -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Gaspé) -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Blaikie -- Breitkreuz (Yellowhead) -- Bridgman -- Brien -- Brown (Calgary Southeast) -- Canuel -- Caron -- Chatters -- Chrétien (Frontenac) -- Cummins -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Debien -- de Jong -- de Savoye -- Deshaies -- Dumas -- Duncan -- Fillion -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Gagnon (Québec) -- Gauthier (Roberval) -- Gilmour -- Godin -- Gouk -- Grey (Beaver River) -- Grubel -- Guay -- Guimond -- Hanger -- Hanrahan -- Harper (Calgary West) -- Harper (Simcoe Centre) -- Harris -- Hart -- Hayes -- Hermanson -- Hill (Macleod) -- Hill (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Jacob -- Landry -- Langlois -- Laurin -- Lavigne (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- Lebel -- Leblanc (Longueuil) -- Lefebvre -- Leroux (Shefford) -- Loubier -- Manning -- Marchand -- Mayfield -- McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) -- McLaughlin -- Mercier -- Meredith -- Mills (Red Deer) -- Ménard -- Nunez -- Paré -- Penson -- Picard (Drummond) -- Pomerleau -- Ramsay -- Ringma -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Schmidt -- Silye -- St-Laurent -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Taylor -- Thompson -- Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- 86

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Allmand -- Anawak -- Anderson -- Assadourian -- Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bellemare -- Berger -- Bertrand -- Bethel -- Bhaduria -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Boudria -- Brown (Oakville -- Milton) -- Brushett -- Bryden -- Caccia -- Campbell -- Catterall -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Chrétien (Saint-Maurice) -- Copps -- Cowling -- Crawford -- Culbert -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dingwall -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Duhamel -- Easter -- Eggleton -- English -- Fewchuk -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Flis -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gaffney -- Gagliano -- Gagnon (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine) -- Gallaway -- Gerrard -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray (Windsor West) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Harvard -- Hickey -- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Jordan -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lavigne (Verdun -- Saint-Paul) -- Lee -- Lincoln -- Loney -- MacAulay -- MacDonald -- MacLaren (Etobicoke North) -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McGuire -- McKinnon -- McLellan (Edmonton Northwest) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Milliken -- Mills (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Mitchell -- Murphy -- Murray -- O'Brien -- O'Reilly -- Ouellet -- Pagtakhan -- Parrish -- Patry -- Payne -- Peric -- Peters -- Peterson -- Phinney -- Pickard (Essex -- Kent) -- Pillitteri -- Proud -- Reed -- Regan -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Rock -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart (Brant) -- Stewart (Northumberland) -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thalheimer -- Tobin -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Verran -- Volpe -- Walker -- Wappel -- Wells -- Whelan -- Wood -- Young -- Zed -- 141

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Bevilacqua -- Bouchard -- Clancy -- Crête -- Dubé -- Dupuy -- Lalonde -- LeBlanc (Cape/Cap Breton Highlands -- Canso)

Accordingly, Motion No. 23 was also negatived on the same division.

Group No. 5

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 22 of Mrs. Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata), seconded by Mrs. Gagnon (Québec), -- That Bill C-53, in Clause 26, be amended by replacing lines 11 to 13, on page 9, with the following:

    ``by such committee of the House of Commons as may be designated or estab-''.

The question was put on Motion No. 22 and it was negatived on the following division:

      YEAS: 42, NAYS: 185. (See list under division No. 150)

Group No. 6

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 24 of Mrs. Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata), seconded by Mrs. Gagnon (Québec), -- That Bill C-53, in Clause 35, be amended by replacing line 22, on page 11, with the following:

    ``with the government of each province and the Minister of Canadian Heritage, shall''.

The question was put on Motion No. 24 and it was negatived on the following division:

      YEAS: 42, NAYS: 185. (See list under division No. 150)

Accordingly, Motions Nos. 25, 26 and 27 were also negatived on the same division.

Ms. Marleau (Minister of Health) for Mr. Dupuy (Minister of Canadian Heritage), seconded by Mr. Dingwall (Minister of Public Works and Government Services and Minister for the Atlantic Canada Opportunities Agency), moved, -- That Bill C-53, An Act to establish the Department of Canadian Heritage and to amend and repeal certain other Acts, as amended, be concurred in at report stage.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 155)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Allmand -- Anawak -- Anderson -- Assadourian -- Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bellemare -- Berger -- Bertrand -- Bethel -- Bhaduria -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Boudria -- Brown (Oakville -- Milton) -- Brushett -- Bryden -- Caccia -- Campbell -- Catterall -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Chrétien (Saint-Maurice) -- Copps -- Cowling -- Crawford -- Culbert -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dingwall -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Duhamel -- Easter -- Eggleton -- English -- Fewchuk -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Flis -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gaffney -- Gagliano -- Gagnon (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine) -- Gallaway -- Gerrard -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray (Windsor West) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Harvard -- Hickey -- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Jordan -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lavigne (Verdun -- Saint-Paul) -- Lee -- Lincoln -- Loney -- MacAulay -- MacDonald -- MacLaren (Etobicoke North) -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McGuire -- McKinnon -- McLellan (Edmonton Northwest) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Milliken -- Mills (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Mitchell -- Murphy -- Murray -- O'Brien -- O'Reilly -- Ouellet -- Pagtakhan -- Parrish -- Patry -- Payne -- Peric -- Peters -- Peterson -- Phinney -- Pickard (Essex -- Kent) -- Pillitteri -- Proud -- Reed -- Regan -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Rock -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart (Brant) -- Stewart (Northumberland) -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thalheimer -- Tobin -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Verran -- Volpe -- Walker -- Wappel -- Wells -- Whelan -- Wood -- Young -- Zed -- 141

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Ablonczy -- Althouse -- Asselin -- Axworthy (Saskatoon -- Clark's Crossing) -- Bachand -- Bélisle -- Benoit -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Gaspé) -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Blaikie -- Breitkreuz (Yellowhead) Bridgman -- Brien -- Brown (Calgary Southeast) -- Canuel -- Caron -- Chatters -- Chrétien (Frontenac) -- Cummins -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Debien -- de Jong -- de Savoye -- Deshaies -- Dumas -- Duncan -- Fillion -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Gagnon (Québec) -- Gauthier (Roberval) -- Gilmour -- Godin -- Gouk -- Grey (Beaver River) -- Grubel -- Guay -- Guimond -- Hanger -- Hanrahan -- Harper (Calgary West) -- Harper (Simcoe Centre) -- Harris -- Hart -- Hayes -- Hermanson -- Hill (Macleod) -- Hill (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Jacob -- Landry -- Langlois -- Laurin -- Lavigne (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- Lebel -- Leblanc (Longueuil) -- Lefebvre -- Leroux (Shefford) -- Loubier -- Manning -- Marchand -- Mayfield -- McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) -- McLaughlin -- Mercier -- Meredith -- Mills (Red Deer) -- Ménard -- Nunez -- Paré -- Penson -- Picard (Drummond) -- Pomerleau -- Ramsay -- Ringma -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Schmidt -- Silye -- St-Laurent -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Taylor -- Thompson -- Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- 86

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Bevilacqua -- Bouchard -- Clancy -- Crête -- Dubé -- Dupuy -- Lalonde -- LeBlanc (Cape/Cap Breton Highlands -- Canso)

Accordingly, the Bill, as amended, was concurred in at report stage and, by unanimous consent, ordered for a third reading later today.

DAILY ROUTINE OF BUSINESS

Tabling of Documents

Mr. Gray (Solicitor General of Canada), laid upon the table, -- Return to an Order made earlier today for a copy of the December 9, 1994, report of the Security Intelligence Review Committee entitled ``The Heritage Front Affair'', subject only to the removal of that information relating to the amount and management of payments to sources which, if disclosed, could, in the opinion of the Solicitor General, impair the ability of the Canadian Security and Intelligence Service to obtain information from sources that is strictly necessary to its duties and functions, and having regard to subsection 18(2) of the Canadian Security and Intelligence Service Act and paragraph 8(2)(c) of the Privacy Act. -- (Notice of Motions for the Production of Papers P3). -- Sessional Paper No. 8550-351-3.


Ms. Copps (Minister of the Environment) laid upon the Table, -- Document entitled ``Economic Instruments and Disincentives to Sound Environmental Practices''. -- Sessional Paper No. 8525-351-23.


Mr. Axworthy (Minister of Human Resources Development) laid upon the Table, -- Document entitled ``Canadian Position with Respect to Conventions and Recommendations adopted at the 79th and 80th Sessions of the International Labour Conference -- Geneva, June 1992 and June 1993''. -- Sessional Paper No. 8530- 351-25.

By unanimous consent, the document was referred to the Standing Committee on Human Resources Development.


Mr. Fontana (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Transport) for Mr. Young (Minister of Transport) laid upon the Table, -- Report of Canarctic Shipping Company Limited, together with the Auditors' Report, for the year 1993. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-351-534A.


Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) for Ms. Marleau (Minister of Health) laid upon the Table, -- Government response, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to petition No. 351-1149 concerning the Canadian Red Cross. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-351-81.


Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) for Mr. Rock (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada) laid upon the Table, -- Government response, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to petition No. 351-1223 concerning the Canadian Human Rights Act. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-351-3H.


Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) for Mr. Rock (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada) laid upon the Table, -- Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to petitions Nos. 351-1412, 351-1414, 351-1427, 351-1435, 351-1441, 351-1442, 351-1448, 351-1455, 351-1456 and 351-1464 concerning euthanasia. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545- 351-50I.

Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) for Mr. Rock (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada) laid upon the Table, -- Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to petitions Nos. 351-1413, 351-1430 and 351-1431 concerning the Divorce Act. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-351-5K.


Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) for Mr. Rock (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada) laid upon the Table, -- Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to petitions Nos. 351-1419 to 351-1423, 351-1429, 351-1434, 351-1436, 351-1450, 351-1461 and 351-1462 concerning gun control. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-351-16G.


Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) for Mr. Rock (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada) laid upon the Table, -- Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to petitions Nos. 351-1424, 351-1425, 351-1444, 351-1449, 351-1454, 351-1458, 351-1459 and 351-1465 concerning abortion. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-351-30Q.


Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) for Mr. Rock (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada) laid upon the Table, -- Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to petitions Nos. 351-1437, 351-1445, 351-1446 and 351-1457 concerning the Young Offenders Act. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545- 351-9N.

Presenting Reports from Inter-parliamentary Delegations

Pursuant to Standing Order 34(1), Mr. Proud presented the 4th Report of the Canadian NATO Parliamentary Association concerning its participation at the Annual Session of the North Atlantic Assembly (NAA) held in Washington, D.C., from November 14 to 18, 1994. -- Sessional Paper No. 8565-351-50C.

Presenting Reports from Committees

Mr. Canuel (Matapédia -- Matane), from the Standing Committee on Natural Resources, presented the 5th Report of the Committee (Lifting Canadian Mining off the Rocks). -- Sessional Paper No. 8510-351-73.

Pursuant to Standing Order 109, the government was requested by the Committee to table a comprehensive response.

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings and Evidence (Issues Nos. 27 to 31, 33 to 37 and 39, which includes this Report) was tabled.

Introduction of Government Bills

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Young (Minister of Transport), seconded by Mr. Gagliano (Secretary of State (Parliamentary Affairs) and Deputy Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), Bill C-66, An Act to amend the Western Grain Transportation Act, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.


Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. MacAulay (Secretary of State (Veterans)) for Mr. Collenette (Minister of National Defence and Minister of Veterans Affairs), seconded by Mr. Gagliano (Secretary of State (Parliamentary Affairs) and Deputy Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), Bill C-67, An Act to establish the Veterans Review and Appeal Board, to amend the Pension Act, to make consequential amendments to other Acts and to repeal the Veterans Appeal Board Act, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Recommendation
(Pursuant to Standing Order 79(2)
)

      His Excellency the Governor General recommends to the House of Commons the appropriation of public revenue under the circumstances, in the manner and for the purposes set out in a measure entitled ``An Act to establish the Veterans Review and Appeal Board, to amend the Pension Act, to make consequential amendments to other Acts and to repeal the Veterans Appeal Board Act''.

Introduction of Private Members' Bills

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Peric (Cambridge), seconded by Mr. Richardson (Perth -- Wellington -- Waterloo), Bill C-299, An Act to amend the Canada Pension Plan (increased contributions and pensions), was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Motions

Pursuant to Standing Order 56(1)(a), Mr. Gagliano (Secretary of State (Parliamentary Affairs) and Deputy Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), seconded by Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), moved, -- That 15 members, three staff and three interpreters from the Standing Committee on Agriculture and Agri-Food be allowed to hold hearings in relation to the committee's study on the future of Canadian agriculture in St. Hyacinthe, Victoriaville, Quebec City, Florenceville, Halifax and Charlottetown from January 22 to January 28, 1995, and in Kelowna, Camrose, Lethbridge, Saskatoon, Winnipeg, London, St. Catharines, Brockville and Alfred from February 5 to February 15, 1995.

The question was put on the motion and, more than 25 Members having risen to object, pursuant to Standing Order 56.1(3), the motion was deemed withdrawn.

Presenting Petitions

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were presented as follows:

-- by Mr. Graham (Rosedale), three concerning the Canadian Human Rights Act (Nos. 351-1716 to 351-1718);

-- by Mr. Adams (Peterborough), one concerning sexual abuse of children (No. 351-1719) and one concerning the imprisonment of Leonard Peltier in the United States (No. 351-1720);

-- by Mr. Rideout (Moncton), one concerning the prayer in the House of Commons (No. 351-1721) and one concerning euthanasia (No. 351-1722);

-- by Mr. Gouk (Kootenay West -- Revelstoke), one concerning gun control (No. 351-1723);

-- by Ms. McLaughlin (Yukon), one concerning the mining industry (No. 351-1724);

-- by Miss Grey (Beaver River), one concerning the Divorce Act (No. 351-1725);

-- by Mr. Duncan (North Island -- Powell River), one concerning the Canadian Human Rights Act (No. 351-1726) and one concerning euthanasia (No. 351-1727);

-- by Ms. Fry (Vancouver Centre), one concerning the Canadian Human Rights Act (No. 351-1728);

-- by Mr. Serré (Timiskaming -- French River), two concerning the mining industry (Nos. 351-1729 and 351-1730);

-- by Mr. McWhinney (Vancouver Quadra), one concerning the Canadian Human Rights Act (No. 351-1731);

-- by Mr. Gagnon (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine), one concerning the Canadian Human Rights Act (No. 351-1732);

-- by Ms. Phinney (Hamilton Mountain), three concerning crimes of violence (Nos. 351-1733 to 351-1735);

-- by Mr. Hopkins (Renfrew -- Nipissing -- Pembroke), two concerning abortion (Nos. 351-1736 and 351-1737).

Questions on Order Paper

Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) presented the answers to questions Q-43, Q-44 and Q-69 on the Order Paper and a supplementary answer to question Q-82.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The Order was read for the third reading of Bill C-53, An Act to establish the Department of Canadian Heritage and to amend and repeal certain other Acts.

Mr. Anderson (Minister of National Revenue) for Mr. Dupuy (Minister of Canadian Heritage), seconded by Mrs. Finestone (Secretary of State (Multiculturalism) (Status of Women)), moved, -- That the Bill be now read a third time and do pass.

Debate arose thereon.

STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

ORAL QUESTIONS

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Dupuy (Minister of Canadian Heritage), seconded by Mrs. Finestone (Secretary of State (Multiculturalism) (Status of Women)), -- That Bill C-53, An Act to establish the Department of Canadian Heritage and to amend and repeal certain other Acts, be now read a third time and do pass.

The debate continued.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 156)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Allmand -- Anderson -- Assadourian -- Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bellemare -- Berger -- Bertrand -- Bethel -- Bhaduria -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Boudria -- Brown (Oakville -- Milton) -- Brushett -- Bryden -- Campbell -- Catterall -- Chan -- Cowling -- Crawford -- Culbert -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dingwall -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Duhamel -- Easter -- Eggleton -- English -- Fewchuk -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Flis -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine) -- Gallaway -- Gerrard -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray (Windsor West) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Harvard -- Hickey -- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Irwin -- Jordan -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lavigne (Verdun -- Saint-Paul) -- Lee -- Lincoln -- Loney -- MacAulay -- MacDonald -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McGuire -- McKinnon -- McLellan (Edmonton Northwest) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mitchell -- Murphy -- Murray -- Nunziata -- O'Brien -- O'Reilly -- Ouellet -- Pagtakhan -- Parrish -- Patry -- Payne -- Peric -- Peters -- Peterson -- Pickard (Essex -- Kent) -- Proud -- Reed -- Regan -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Rompkey -- Serré -- Shepherd -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart (Brant) -- Stewart (Northumberland) -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thalheimer -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Verran -- Walker -- Wappel -- Wells -- Whelan -- Wood -- Young -- 123

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Ablonczy -- Asselin -- Bachand -- Bélisle -- Bellehumeur -- Benoit -- Bergeron -- Blaikie -- Breitkreuz (Yellowhead) -- Bridgman -- Brown (Calgary Southeast) -- Caron -- Chatters -- Cummins -- Debien -- de Savoye -- Deshaies -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Duncan -- Fillion -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Gagnon (Québec) -- Gauthier (Roberval) -- Gilmour -- Godin -- Gouk -- Grey (Beaver River) -- Grubel -- Guay -- Hanger -- Hanrahan -- Harper (Calgary West) -- Harper (Simcoe Centre) -- Hart -- Hill (Macleod) -- Hoeppner -- Jacob -- Landry -- Langlois -- Laurin -- Lavigne (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- Lebel -- Leblanc (Longueuil) -- Leroux (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Leroux (Shefford) -- Loubier -- Manning -- Mayfield -- McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) -- McLaughlin -- Meredith -- Mills (Red Deer) -- Ménard -- Nunez -- Paré -- Penson -- Picard (Drummond) -- Pomerleau -- Ringma -- Sauvageau -- Schmidt -- Scott (Skeena) -- Silye -- St-Laurent -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Thompson -- Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Williams -- 71

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Bevilacqua -- Bouchard -- Bélair -- Clancy -- Crête -- Daviault -- Dubé -- Dupuy -- Lalonde -- LeBlanc (Cape/Cap Breton Highlands -- Canso)

Accordingly, the Bill was read the third time and passed.

MOTIONS

By unanimous consent, Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), seconded by Mr. Gauthier (Roberval), moved, -- That the House shall not sit on Friday, December 16, 1994, provided that it shall be deemed to have sat and adjourned on that day for the purposes of Standing Order 28(2).

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to.

MESSAGES FROM THE SENATE

A Message was received from the Senate as follows:

    ORDERED: That a Message be sent to the House of Commons to acquaint that House that the Senate has passed Bill C-51, An Act to amend the Canada Grain Act and respecting certain regulations made pursuant to that Act, without amendment.

A Message was received from the Senate as follows:

    ORDERED: That a Message be sent to the House of Commons to acquaint that House that the Senate has passed Bill C-56, An Act to amend the Canadian Environmental Assessment Act, without amendment.

A Message was received from the Senate as follows:

    ORDERED: That a Message be sent to the House of Commons to acquaint that House that the Senate has passed Bill C-57, An Act to implement the Agreement Establishing the World Trade Organization, without amendment.

ROYAL ASSENT

The Speaker informed the House that His Excellency the Governor General will proceed to the Senate today at 4:30 p.m., for the purpose of giving Royal Assent to certain Bills.

A Message was received from His Excellency the Governor General, desiring the immediate attendance of the House in the Senate.

Accordingly, the Speaker, with the House, proceeded to the Senate.

The Commons returned to the Chamber.

Whereupon, the Speaker reported that, when the Commons had been in the Senate, His Excellency the Governor General was pleased to give, in Her Majesty's name, the Royal Assent to the following Bills:

      Bill C-38, An Act to provide for the security of marine transportation -- Chapter No. 40;
      Bill C-48, An Act to establish the Department of Natural Resources and to amend related Acts -- Chapter No. 41;
      Bill C-36, An Act respecting the Split Lake Cree First Nation and the settlement of matters arising from an agreement relating to the flooding of land -- Chapter No. 42;
      Bill C-55, An Act to establish a board having jurisdiction concerning disputes respecting surface rights in respect of land in the Yukon Territory and to amend other Acts in relation thereto -- Chapter No. 43;
      Bill C-42, An Act to amend the Criminal Code and other Acts (miscellaneous matters) -- Chapter No. 44;
      Bill C-51, An Act to amend the Canada Grain Act and respecting certain regulations made pursuant to that Act -- Chapter No. 45;
      Bill C-56, An Act to amend the Canadian Environmental Assessment Act -- Chapter No. 46;
      Bill C-57, An Act to implement the Agreement Establishing the World Trade Organization -- Chapter No. 47.

The Speaker also reported that he had presented to His Excellency the following Supply Bill, to enable the Government to defray certain expenses of the public service, to which His Excellency was pleased to give, in Her Majesty's name, the Royal Assent:

      Bill C-63, An Act for granting to Her Majesty certain sums of money for the public service of Canada for the financial year ending March 31, 1995 (Appropriation Act No. 3, 1994-95) -- Chapter No. 48.

PROCEEDINGS ON ADJOURNMENT MOTION

At 4:54 p.m., by unanimous consent, the question ``That this House do now adjourn'' was deemed to have been proposed.

After debate, the question was deemed to have been adopted.

RETURNS AND REPORTS DEPOSITED WITH THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(1), the following papers, deposited with the Clerk of the House, were laid upon the Table:

By the Speaker -- Minutes of Proceedings of the Board of Internal Economy of the House of Commons for October 18 and November 15, 1994, pursuant to Standing Order 148(1). -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-351-2J.

By the Speaker -- Amendments to the By-laws adopted by the Board of Internal Economy of the House of Commons, December 7, 1994, pursuant to subsection 52.5(2) of the Parliament of Canada Act, Chapter 20, Statutes of Canada, 1991. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-351-324D.


By Mr. Eggleton (President of the Treasury Board) -- Report on Crown Corporations and Other Corporate Interests of Canada for the year 1994, pursuant to subsections 151(1) and 152(1) of the Financial Administration Act, Chapter F-11, Revised Statutes of Canada, 1985. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-351-476A. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Public Accounts)


By Mr. Young (Minister of Transport) -- Report of the Administrator of the Ship-source Oil Pollution Fund for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1994, pursuant to section 84 of the Act to amend the Canada Shipping Act and to amend the Arctic Waters Pollution Prevention Act and the Oil and Gas Production and Conservation Act in consequence thereof, Chapter 6 (3rd Supp.), Revised Statutes of Canada, 1985. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-351-606A. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Transport)

ADJOURNMENT

At 5:18 p.m., pursuant to Order made earlier today, the House adjourned until Monday, February 6, 1995, at 11:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Orders 28(2) and 24(1).