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HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA
35TH PARLIAMENT, 1st SESSION
JOURNALS
No. 162
Wednesday, March 1, 1995
2:00 p.m.
PRAYERS
STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS
Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.
ORAL QUESTIONS
Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.
DAILY ROUTINE OF BUSINESS
Presenting Reports from Inter-parliamentary Delegations
Pursuant to Standing Order 34(1), Mr. Boudria (Glengarry -- Prescott -- Russell) presented the Report of the Canadian Branch of the Assemblée internationale des parlementaires de langue française (AIPLF) respecting its participation at the Bureau meeting held in Porto-Novo, Bénin, on January 19 and 20, 1995. -- Sessional Paper No. 8565-351-52E.
Presenting Reports from Committees
Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), from the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs, presented the 64th Report of the Committee, which was as follows:
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Pursuant to Standing Order 104, the Committee recommends that the
following Member be added to the list of Associate Members of the
Standing Committee on Government Operations: Williams.
A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings and Evidence (Issue No. 40, which includes this Report) was tabled.
Mr. LeBlanc (Cape Breton Highlands -- Canso), from the Standing Committee on Human Resources Development, presented the 8th Report of the Committee (Bill C-54, An Act to amend the Old Age Security Act, the Canada Pension Plan, the Children's Special Allowances Act and the Unemployment Insurance Act, with amendments). -- Sessional Paper No. 8510-351-84.
A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings and Evidence (Issues Nos. 69, 70 and 71, which includes this Report) was tabled.
Mr. Harvard (Winnipeg St. James), from the Standing Committee on Government Operations, presented the 3rd Report of the Committee (Bill C-65, An Act to reorganize and dissolve certain federal agencies, with amendments). -- Sessional Paper No. 8510- 351-85.
A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings and Evidence (Issues Nos. 33 and 34, which includes this Report) was tabled.
Introduction of Private Members' Bills
Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Solomon (Regina -- Lumsden), seconded by Mr. Taylor (The Battlefords -- Meadow Lake), Bill C-314, An Act to amend the Parliament of Canada Act (other pension income), was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.
Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Mayfield (Cariboo -- Chilcotin), seconded by Mr. Strahl (Fraser Valley East), Bill C-315, An Act to complement the present laws of Canada that protect the privacy of individuals with respect to personal information about themselves obtained by certain corporations, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.
Motions
By unanimous consent, Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), seconded by Mr. McCormick (Hastings -- Frontenac -- Lennox and Addington), moved, -- That the 64th Report of the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs, presented earlier today, be concurred in.
The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to.
By unanimous consent, Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), seconded by Mr. McCormick (Hastings -- Frontenac -- Lennox and Addington), moved, -- That Members of the Standing Committee on Health be authorized to travel to hold hearings and community visits, in relation to the Committee's study on Mental Health and the Aboriginal Peoples of Canada, in Kuujjuaq, Povungnituk, Rigolet, Northwest River, Eskasoni, Halifax, Rexton, Big Cove, Pikangikum, Winnipeg, Fort Alexander, Edmonton, Hobbema, Buffalo Lake, Vancouver and Gwa-Sala-Nakwasda-xw, from March 19 to 24, 1995, and that the necessary staff do accompany the Committee.
The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to.
Presenting Petitions
Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were presented as follows:
-- by Mrs. Venne (Saint-Hubert), one concerning voice mail (No. 351-2240);
-- by Mrs. Jennings (Mission -- Coquitlam), one concerning sexual orientation (No. 351-2241);
-- by Mr. Richardson (Perth -- Wellington -- Waterloo), one concerning intoxication as a defence (No. 351-2242), two concerning euthanasia (Nos. 351-2243 and 351-2244), one concerning hormone use in livestock (No. 351-2245), one concerning the income tax system (No. 351-2246), one concerning the Criminal Code (common bawdy-house) (No. 351-2247), one concerning abortion (No. 351-2248) and four concerning the Canadian Human Rights Act (Nos. 351-2249 to 351-2252);
-- by Mrs. Kraft Sloan (York -- Simcoe), one concerning the Criminal Code (common bawdy-house) (No. 351-2253);
-- by Mr. Lastewka (St. Catharines), one concerning the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation (No. 351-2254);
-- by Mr. Rideout (Moncton), one concerning the Canadian Human Rights Act (No. 351-2255);
-- by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), one concerning the Canadian Wheat Board (No. 351-2256), one concerning euthanasia (No. 351-2257) and seven concerning gun control (Nos. 351-2258 to 351-2264);
-- by Mr. Bellehumeur (Berthier -- Montcalm), one concerning voice mail (No. 351-2265);
-- by Mr. Steckle (Huron -- Bruce), three concerning the Canadian Human Rights Act (Nos. 351-2266 to 351-2268), one concerning euthanasia (No. 351-2269), one concerning abortion (No. 351-2270) and one concerning gun control (No. 351-2271);
-- by Mrs. Terrana (Vancouver East), one concerning genital mutilation (No. 351-2272), one concerning euthanasia (No. 351- 2273), two concerning the Canadian Human Rights Act (Nos. 351- 2274 and 351-2275) and one concerning sexual orientation (No. 351-2276);
-- by Mrs. Brown (Calgary Southeast), one concerning the parole system (No. 351-2277) and one concerning the Young Offenders Act (No. 351-2278);
-- by Mr. Williams (St. Albert), one concerning the Young Offenders Act (No. 351-2279);
-- by Mr. Epp (Elk Island), one concerning the Young Offenders Act (No. 351-2280);
-- by Mr. Wappel (Scarborough West), one concerning abortion (No. 351-2281), one concerning euthanasia (No. 351-2282) and one concerning the Canadian Human Rights Act (No. 351-2283);
-- by Mr. O'Brien (London -- Middlesex), one concerning the Canadian Human Rights Act (No. 351-2284) and two concerning sexual orientation (Nos. 351-2285 and 351-2286);
-- by Mr. Nault (Kenora -- Rainy River), one concerning the mining industry (No. 351-2287), one concerning euthanasia (No. 351-2288), one concerning the Divorce Act (No. 351-2289), one concerning gun control (No. 351-2290), one concerning abortion (No. 351-2291), one concerning the Canadian Human Rights Act (No. 351-2292) and one concerning the official languages of Canada (No. 351-2293);
-- by Mr. Mills (Red Deer), one concerning the Young Offenders Act (No. 351-2294) and one concerning gun control (No. 351- 2295);
-- by Mr. Solomon (Regina -- Lumsden), one concerning the income tax system (No. 351-2296) and one concerning the mining industry (No. 351-2297);
-- by Mr. Thompson (Wild Rose), one concerning the Young Offenders Act (No. 351-2298), one concerning sentences in the Criminal Code (No. 351-2299) and one concerning the Criminal Code (common bawdy-house) (No. 351-2300).
Questions on Order Paper
Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) presented the answer to question Q-129 on the Order Paper.
GOVERNMENT ORDERS
The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance), seconded by Mr. Gray (Leader of the Government in the House of Commons and Solicitor General of Canada), -- That this House approves in general the budgetary policy of the Government; (Ways and Means Proceedings No. 20)
And of the amendment of Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthet -- Bagot), seconded by Mr. Brien (Témiscamingue), -- That the motion by amended by deleting all the words after the word ``That'' and substituting the following:
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``the House of Commons reject the government's Budget which
systematically off-loads the federal government's financial problems
onto the provinces; makes no provision whatsoever to ease the tax
burden of the middle class while
preserving tax loopholes for wealthy Canadians and large corporations;
and completely disregards the pressing needs of the unemployed and the
most disadvantaged who will bear the full brunt of additional cuts to
social programs.'';
And of the sub-amendment of Mr. Manning (Calgary Southwest), seconded by Mr. Hermanson (Kindersley -- Lloydminster), -- That the amendment be amended by deleting all the words after the word ``Budget'' and substituting the following:
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``for its failure to eliminate the deficit quickly and decisively
within the life of this Parliament and by asking future generations to
bear the cost of fiscal irresponsibility.''
The debate continued.
At 6:15 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 84(4), the Speaker interrupted the proceedings.
The question was put on the sub-amendment and it was negatived on the following division:
(Division--Vote No 165)
YEAS-POUR
Members--Députés
-- Ablonczy -- Benoit -- Breitkreuz (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Bridgman -- Brown (Calgary Southeast) -- Chatters -- Cummins -- Epp -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Gouk -- Grubel -- Hanger -- Hanrahan -- Harper (Calgary West) -- Harper (Simcoe Centre) -- Harris -- Hart -- Hayes -- Hermanson -- Hill (Macleod) -- Hoeppner -- Jennings -- Johnston -- Manning -- Mayfield -- Meredith -- Mills (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Ramsay -- Ringma -- Schmidt -- Silye -- Solberg -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Thompson -- Wayne -- White (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- 41
NAYS-CONTRE
Members--Députés
-- Adams -- Alcock -- Allmand -- Arseneault -- Assadourian -- Asselin -- Augustine -- Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bachand -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bellehumeur -- Bellemare -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Bertrand -- Bethel -- Bevilacqua -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Boudria -- Brown (Oakville -- Milton) -- Brushett -- Bryden -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bélisle -- Caccia -- Calder -- Campbell -- Cannis -- Canuel -- Caron -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Chrétien (Frontenac) -- Chrétien (Saint-Maurice) -- Clancy -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Collins -- Copps -- Cowling -- Crawford -- Crête -- Culbert -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Daviault -- Debien -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Duceppe -- Duhamel -- Dupuy -- Easter -- Eggleton -- English -- Fewchuk -- Fillion -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine) -- Gagnon (Québec) -- Gallaway -- Gauthier (Roberval) -- Gerrard -- Godfrey -- Godin -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray (Windsor West) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Guay -- Guimond -- Harb -- Harvard -- Hubbard -- Iftody -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Jacob -- Jordan -- Kilger (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Landry -- Lastewka -- Laurin -- Lavigne (Verdun -- Saint-Paul) -- LeBlanc (Cape/CapBreton Highlands -- Canso) -- Lee -- Leroux (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Leroux (Shefford) -- Lincoln -- Loney -- Loubier -- MacAulay -- MacDonald -- MacLellan (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The Sydneys) -- Maheu -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marchand -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKinnon -- McLellan (Edmonton Northwest) -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murphy -- Murray -- Ménard -- Nault -- Nunez -- Nunziata -- O'Brien -- O'Reilly -- Ouellet -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Payne -- Peric -- Peterson -- Picard (Drummond) -- Pickard (Essex -- Kent) -- Proud -- Reed -- Regan -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Ringuette-Maltais -- Robichaud -- Robillard -- Robinson -- Rompkey -- Scott (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Serré -- Simmons -- Skoke -- Solomon -- Speller -- St-Laurent -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart (Northumberland) -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Thalheimer -- Tobin -- Torsney -- Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Tremblay (Rosemont) -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Verran -- Volpe -- Walker -- Wappel -- Wells -- Whelan -- Young -- Zed -- 186
Paired Members--Députés Pairés
-- Anderson -- Bergeron -- Bouchard -- Brien -- Deshaies -- Dumas -- Flis -- Lalonde -- Langlois -- Lavigne (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- MacLaren -- McKinnon -- Peters -- Pillitteri -- Rock -- Stewart (Brant) -- Wood -- de Savoye
PROCEEDINGS ON ADJOURNMENT MOTION
At 6:49 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 38(1), the question ``That this House do now adjourn'' was deemed to have been proposed.
After debate, the question was deemed to have been adopted.
RETURNS AND REPORTS DEPOSITED WITH THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE
Pursuant to Standing Order 32(1), the following paper, deposited with the Clerk of the House, was laid upon the Table:
-- By Mr. Dingwall (Minister of Public Works and Government Services) -- Summary of the Corporate Plan 1995-99 and of the Capital Budget 1995 for the Royal Canadian Mint, pursuant to subsection 125(4) of the Financial Administration Act, Chapter F-11, Revised Statutes of Canada, 1985. -- Sessional Paper No. 8562-351-810A. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Government Operations)
ADJOURNMENT
At 7:07 p.m., the House adjourned until tomorrow at 10:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).