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HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA
35TH PARLIAMENT, 1st SESSION


JOURNALS

No. 186

Monday, April 24, 1995

11:00 a.m.



PRAYERS

MESSAGES FROM THE SENATE

A Message was received from the Senate informing this House that the Senate has passed the following Bill, to which the concurrence of the House is desired:

    Bill S-7, An Act to accelerate the use of alternative fuels for motor vehicles.

PRIVATE MEMBERS' BUSINESS

At 11:05 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 30(7), the House proceeded to the consideration of Private Members' Business.

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Hart (Okanagan -- Similkameen -- Merritt), seconded by Mr. Mills (Red Deer), -- That Bill C-263, An Act to amend the Financial Administration Act and other Acts in consequence thereof (exempted Crown corporations), be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Public Accounts.

By unanimous consent, it was ordered, -- That, notwithstanding any Order of the House, any recorded division to be taken today on Bill C-263 be deferred until Tuesday, April 25, 1995, at 5:30 p.m.

The debate continued.

At 11:50 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 93, the Speaker interrupted the proceedings.

The question was put on the motion and, pursuant to Order made earlier today, the recorded division was deferred until Tuesday, April 25, 1995, at 5:30 p.m.

INTERRUPTION

At 11:52 a.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 11:59 a.m., the sitting resumed.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Gray (Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), seconded by Ms. Blondin-Andrew (Secretary of State (Training and Youth)), -- That Bill C-69, An Act to provide for the establishment of electoral boundaries commissions and the readjustment of electoral boundaries, be now read a third time and do pass.

The debate continued.

The question was put on the motion and, pursuant to Standing Order 45(5)(a), the recorded division was deferred until Tuesday, April 25, 1995, at 5:30 p.m.


The Order was read for the second reading and reference to the Standing Committee on Agriculture and Agri-Food of Bill C-75, An Act to amend the Farm Improvement and Marketing Cooperatives Loans Act.

Mr. Robichaud (Secretary of State (Agriculture and Agri-Food, Fisheries and Oceans)) for Mr. Goodale (Minister of Agriculture and Agri-Food), seconded by Mrs. Robillard (Minister of Labour), moved, -- That the Bill be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Agriculture and Agri-Food.

Debate arose thereon.

STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

ORAL QUESTIONS

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

DAILY ROUTINE OF BUSINESS

Tabling of Documents

The Speaker laid upon the Table, -- Report of the Chief Electoral Officer of Canada entitled ``The February 1995 By-Elections -- Another Step Forward'', pursuant to section 195(3) of the Canada Elections Act, Chapter E-2, Revised Statutes of Canada, 1985. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-351-4B. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs)


Pursuant to Standing Order 110(1), Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Orders in Council, approving certain appointments made by the Governor General in Council as follows:

(1) P.C. 1995-248, P.C. 1995-541 and P.C. 1995-542. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-351-3P. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage)

(2) P.C. 1995-350 to P.C. 1995-361, P.C. 1995-375 to P.C. 1995-383, P.C. 1995-445 to P.C. 1995-447 and P.C. 1995-499 to P.C. 1995-505. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-351-16Q. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Human Resources Development)

(3) P.C. 1995-362 and P.C. 1995-364. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-351-13H. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs)

(4) P.C. 1995-365 and P.C. 1995-384. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-351-5M. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs) 4)

(5) P.C. 1995-368, P.C. 1995-388, P.C. 1995-454 to P.C. 1995-456, P.C. 1995-511 and P.C. 1995-512. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-351-24S. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Transport)

(6) P.C. 1995-369 and P.C. 1995-370. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-351-14G. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Citizenship and Immigration)

(7) P.C. 1995-385. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-351-1G. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Aboriginal Affairs and Northern Development)

(8) P.C. 1995-386. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-351-18F. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Health)

(9) P.C. 1995-449, P.C. 1995-450 and P.C. 1995-498. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-351-4O. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Government Operations)

(10) P.C. 1995-453. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-351-9K. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Finance)

(11) P.C. 1995-506 and P.C. 1995-507. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-351-8O. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs and International Trade)

(12) P.C. 1995-509, P.C. 1995-538 and P.C. 1995-540. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-351-22M. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Industry)


Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government response, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to petition No. 351-2165 concerning housing policies. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-351-11F.


Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government response, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to petition No. 351-2104 concerning Canadian Forces bases. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-351-12C.


Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the table, -- Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to petitions Nos. 351-1749 and 351-1994 concerning the income tax system. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545- 351-24G.

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Government House Leader in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government response, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to petition No. 351-2064 concerning radio and television programming. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545- 351-25G.


Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government response, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to petition No. 351-2704 concerning abortion. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-351-30EE.


Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to petitions Nos. 351-2678, 351-2691, 351-2702, 351-2703, 351-2712 and 351-2715 concerning euthanasia. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-351-50V.


Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government response, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to petition No. 351-2651 concerning veterans' affairs. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-351-55C.

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to petitions Nos. 351-2144, 351-2176, 351-2191, 351-2201 and 351-2202 concerning the tax system. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-351-56D.


Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government response, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to petition No. 351-2377 concerning VIA Rail. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-351-69F.


Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to petitions Nos. 351-2341 and 351-2342 concerning the imprisonment of Leonard Peltier in the United States. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-351-78C.

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government response, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to petition No. 351-2531 concerning national parks. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-351-91B.


Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government response, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to petition No. 351-2079 concerning income tax deduction for volunteer firefighters. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-351-99A.


Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government response, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to petition No. 351-2700 concerning the highway system. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-351-106A.


Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to petitions Nos. 351-2016, 351-2118 to 351-2120, 351-2122, 351-2123, 351-2170, 351-2205, 351-2242 and 351-2367 concerning intoxication as a defence. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-351-107A.


Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government response, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to petition No. 351-2089 concerning telephone service. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-351-112.


Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government response, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to petition No. 351-2149 concerning the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-351-113.

Presenting Petitions

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were presented as follows:

-- by Mr. Daviault (Ahuntsic), one concerning the Armenian genocide (No. 351-2865);

-- by Mr. Frazer (Saanich -- Gulf Islands), one concerning the Canadian Human Rights Act (No. 351-2866);

-- by Mr. Harris (Prince George -- Bulkley Valley), four concerning gun control (Nos. 351-2867 to 351-2870);

-- by Mr. Fillion (Chicoutimi), one concerning voice mail (No. 351-2871);

-- by Mr. Collins (Souris -- Moose Mountain), six concerning the Canadian Wheat Board (Nos. 351-2872 to 351-2877), one concerning gun control (No. 351-2878) and four concerning euthanasia (Nos. 351-2879 to 351-2882);

-- by Mr. DeVillers (Simcoe North), one concerning hormone use in livestock (No. 351-2883);

-- by Mr. Easter (Malpeque), one concerning hormone use in livestock (No. 351-2884).

Presenting Reports from Committees

Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), from the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs, presented the 73rd Report of the Committee, which was as follows:

      The Committee recommends, pursuant to Standing Orders 104 and 114, the following changes in the membership of Standing Committees:

-- Agriculture and Agri-Food: Reed for Jordan.

-- Human Rights and the Status of Disabled Persons: Loney for Telegdi.

      The Committee also recommends, pursuant to Standing Order 104, that the following Member be added to the list of Associate Members of the Standing Committee on Industry: Nunziata.

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings and Evidence (Issue No. 50, which includes this Report) was tabled.

Motions

By unanimous consent, Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), seconded by Mr. Bryden (Hamilton -- Wentworth), moved, -- That the 73rd Report of the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs, presented earlier today, be concurred in.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to.


By unanimous consent, it was ordered, -- That Private Members' Business Motion M-5, standing on the Order of Precedence on the Order Paper in the name of Mr. Jordan (Leeds -- Grenville), be withdrawn.

Questions on Order Paper

Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) presented the answers to questions Q-133, Q-141 and Q-159 on the Order Paper.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Goodale (Minister of Agriculture and Agri-Food), seconded by Mrs. Robillard (Minister of Labour), -- That Bill C-75, An Act to amend the Farm Improvement and Marketing Cooperatives Loans Act, be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Agriculture and Agri-Food.

The debate continued.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on division.

Accordingly, the Bill was read the second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Agriculture and Agri-Food.


The Order was read for the second reading and reference to the Standing Committee on Finance of Bill C-70, An Act to amend the Income Tax Act, the Income Tax Application Rules and related Acts.

Mr. Gagliano (Secretary of State (Parliamentary Affairs) and Deputy Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) for Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance), seconded by Ms. Marleau (Minister of Health), moved, -- That the Bill be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Finance.

Debate arose thereon.

PROCEEDINGS ON ADJOURNMENT MOTION

At 6:30 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 38(1), the question ``That this House do now adjourn'' was deemed to have been proposed.

After debate, the question was deemed to have been adopted.

RETURNS AND REPORTS DEPOSITED WITH THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(1), papers deposited with the Clerk of the House were deemed laid upon the Table on Wednesday, April 19, 1995, as follows:

-- by Mr. Dingwall (Minister of Public Works and Government Services) -- Report of the Royal Canadian Mint, together with the Auditor General's Report, for the year 1994, pursuant to subsection 150(1) of the Financial Administration Act, Chapter F-11, Revised Statutes of Canada, 1985. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-351-176A. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Government Operations)

-- by Mr. Gray (Solicitor General of Canada) -- Report on the use of electronic surveillance for the year 1993, pursuant to subsection 195(4) of the Criminal Code, Chapter C-46, Revised Statutes of Canada, 1985. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-351-510B. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs)

-- by Mr. Gray (Solicitor General of Canada) -- Agreement of contract for RCMP Policing Services made on December 19, 1994, between Canada, the province of British Columbia and the Nanaimo First Nation, pursuant to subsection 20(5) of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police Act, Chapter R-10, Revised Statutes of Canada, 1985. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-351-475S. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs)

-- by Mr. Gray (Solicitor General of Canada) -- Agreement of contract for RCMP Policing Services made on December 21, 1994, between Canada, the province of British Columbia and the Nisga'a Tribal Council, pursuant to subsection 20(5) of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police Act, Chapter R-10, Revised Statutes of Canada, 1985. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-351-475T. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs)

-- by Mr. Gray (Solicitor General of Canada) -- Agreement of contract for RCMP Policing Services made on December 8, 1994, between Canada, the province of British Columbia and the Haisla First Nation, pursuant to subsection 20(5) of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police Act, Chapter R-10, Revised Statutes of Canada, 1985. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-351-475U. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs)

-- by Mr. Gray (Solicitor General of Canada) -- Agreement of contract for RCMP Policing Services made on December 13, 1994, between Canada, the province of British Columbia and the Fort Nelson and Prophet River Bands, pursuant to subsection 20(5) of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police Act, Chapter R-10, Revised Statutes of Canada, 1985. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-351-475V. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs)

-- by Mr. Marchi (Minister of Citizenship and Immigration) -- Report of the Immigration and Refugee Board for the year 1994, pursuant to section 18 of the Act to amend the Immigration Act and to amend other Acts in consequence thereof, Chapter 28 (4th Supp.), Revised Statutes of Canada, 1985.

-- Sessional Paper No. 8560-351-579A. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Citizenship and Immigration)

-- by Ms. McLellan (Minister of Natural Resources) -- Report of the National Energy Board for the year ended December 31, 1994, pursuant to section 133 of the National Energy Board Act, Chapter N-7, Revised Statutes of Canada, 1985. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-351-188A. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Natural Resources)

-- by Mr. Rock (Minister of Justice and Legal Affairs) -- Response of the government, pursuant to Standing Order 109, to the 4th Report of the Standing Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs: ``Draft Amendments to the Criminal Code and the Customs Tariff (crime cards and board games)'' (Sessional Paper No. 8510-351-55), presented to the House on Wednesday, November 16, 1994. -- Sessional Paper No. 8512-351-55.


Pursuant to Standing Order 32(1), papers deposited with the Clerk of the House were laid upon the Table today, as follows:

-- by Mr. Ouellet (Minister of Foreign Affairs) -- Copy of Order in Council P.C. 1995-394 bringing into force the Regulations respecting measures to give effect to Resolution 942 (1994) of September 23, 1994, of the Security Council of the United Nations concerning the Republic of Bosnia and Herzegovina, pursuant to subsection 4(1) of the United Nations Act, Chapter U-2, Revised Statutes of Canada, 1985. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-351-592C. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs and International Trade)

-- by Mr. Young (Minister of Transport) -- Summaries of the Corporate Plans for 1995 to 1999 and the Capital Budgets for 1995 of Canada Ports Corporation, Halifax Port Corporation, Montreal Port Corporation, Prince Rupert Port Corporation, Port of Québec Corporation, Saint John Port Corporation, St. John's Port Corporation and Vancouver Port Corporation, pursuant to subsection 125(4) of the Financial Administration Act, Chapter F-11, Revised Statutes of Canada, 1985. -- Sessional Paper No. 8562-351-805A. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Transport)

PETITION FILED WITH THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, a petition certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions was filed as follows:

-- by Mr. Collins (Souris -- Moose Mountain), concerning Ukrainian Canadians (No. 351-2885).

ADJOURNMENT

At 6:37 p.m., the House adjourned until tomorrow at 10:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).