HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA
35^TH PARLIAMENT, 1^st SESSION

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JOURNALS

No. 223

Wednesday, June 21, 1995

2:00 p.m.

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PRAYERS STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements. ORAL QUESTIONS Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions. DAILY ROUTINE OF BUSINESS Tabling of Documents Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to petitions Nos. 351-3037 to 351-3041 concerning the Divorce Act. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-351-5V. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to petitions Nos. 351-2502 to 351-2506, 351-2589, 351-2957, 351-3133, 351-3134, 351-3167, 351-3181, 351-3256 and 351-3279 concerning the parole system. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-351-10AA. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to petitions Nos. 351-2998, 351-3018, 351-3029, 351-3035, 351-3062, 351-3066, 351-3072, 351-3087, 351-3088, 351-3096 to 351-3100, 351-3140, 351-3155 and 351-3232 concerning abortion. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-351-30MM. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government response, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to petition No. 351-2366 concerning Old Age Security benefits. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-351-31H. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to petitions Nos. 351-1930, 351-2245, 351-2735 and 351-2824 concerning hormone use in livestock. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-351-39C. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government response, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to petition No. 351-2844 concerning the unemployment insurance program. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545- 351-51B. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to petitions Nos. 351-3070, 351-3094, 351-3095 and 351-3220 concerning voice mail. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-351-95F. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to petitions Nos. 351-3007, 351-3080 and 351-3081 concerning breast cancer. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-351-131. Presenting Reports from Committees Mr. Godfrey (Don Valley West), from the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage, presented the 3rd Report of the Committee (The Future of the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation in the Multi-Channel Universe). -- Sessional Paper No. 8510-351-136. Pursuant to Standing Order 109, the government was requested by the Committee to table a comprehensive response. A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings and Evidence (Issues Nos. 26 to 49, 57 to 60 and 61, which includes this Report) was tabled. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Mr. Godfrey (Don Valley West), from the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage, presented the 4th Report of the Committee (Government's proposed Orders issuing directions to the CRTC). -- Sessional Paper No. 8510-351-137. A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings (Issue No. 62, which includes this Report) was tabled. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Mr. Pagtakhan (Winnipeg North), from the Standing Committee on Human Rights and the Status of Disabled Persons, presented the 2nd Report of the Committee (Employment Equity: A Commitment to Merit). -- Sessional Paper No. 8510-351-138. A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings and Evidence (Issue No. 48, which includes this Report) was tabled. Introduction of Private Members' Bills Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. White (North Vancouver), seconded by Mr. Bryden (Hamilton -- Wentworth), Bill C-338, An Act to amend the Income Tax Act (political activities by charities receiving public funds), was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Finlay (Oxford), seconded by Mr. Speller (Haldimand -- Norfolk), Bill C-339, An Act to provide for funding for intervenors in hearings before certain boards and agencies, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mrs. Brown (Calgary Southeast), seconded by Mr. Hanrahan (Edmonton -- Strathcona), Bill C-340, An Act to amend the Broadcasting Act (termination of C.B.C.'s television operations), was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House. Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mrs. Brown (Calgary Southeast), seconded by Mr. Hanrahan (Edmonton -- Strathcona), Bill C-341, An Act to amend the Financial Administration Act (Canada Council, Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, Canadian Film Development Corporation, National Arts Centre Corporation), was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mrs. Brown (Calgary Southeast), seconded by Mr. Hanrahan (Edmonton -- Strathcona), Bill C-342, An Act to amend the Access to Information Act and the Privacy Act (Canadian Broadcasting Corporation and National Arts Centre Corporation), was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Thompson (Wild Rose), seconded by Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), Bill C-343, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (arrest without warrant), was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Crête (Kamouraska -- Rivière-du-Loup), seconded by Mr. Asselin (Charlevoix), Bill C-344, An Act to amend the Public harbours and Port Facilities Act, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House. Motions By unanimous consent, it was ordered, -- That the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs be designated as the committee of the House of Commons to which any matters shall stand referred pursuant to the Referendum Act. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- By unanimous consent, it was ordered, -- That when Ways and Means Motion No. 28 is called and the question put, it shall be deemed agreed to on division. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- By unanimous consent, it was ordered, -- That when Ways and Means Motion No. 29 is called and the question put, a recorded division shall be deemed to have been demanded and deemed deferred to later today, at 11:30 p.m. Presenting Petitions Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were presented as follows:

-- by Mr. Szabo (Mississauga South), one concerning the income tax system (No. 351-3643);

-- by Mr. Asselin (Charlevoix), one concerning the unemployment insurance program (No. 351-3644);

-- by Mrs. Hayes (Port Moody -- Coquitlam), one concerning government spending (No. 351-3645), one concerning the Young Offenders Act (No. 351-3646), one concerning the Canadian Human Rights Act (No. 351-3647) and one concerning the Criminal Code of Canada (No. 351-3648);

-- by Mr. Adams (Peterborough), two concerning the imprisonment of Leonard Peltier in the United States (Nos. 351-3649 and 351-3650) and three concerning the Canadian Human Rights Act (Nos. 351-3651 to 351-3653);

-- by Mr. Hanrahan (Edmonton -- Strathcona), one concerning the Canadian Human Rights Act (No. 351-3654);

-- by Mrs. Barnes (London West), one concerning the Canadian Human Rights Act (No. 351-3655);

-- by Miss Grey (Beaver River), two concerning euthanasia (Nos. 351-3656 and 351-3657);

-- by Mr. Duhamel (St. Boniface), one concerning national unity (No. 351-3658);

-- by Mr. Abbott (Kootenay East), one concerning government spending (No. 351-3659), two concerning gun control (Nos. 351-3660 and 351-3661), one concerning the parole system (No. 351-3662) and one concerning the Criminal Code of Canada (No. 351-3663);

-- by Mr. Hopkins (Renfrew -- Nipissing -- Pembroke), two concerning the Leader of the Opposition (Nos. 351-3664 and 351-3665);

-- by Mr. Bonin (Nickel Belt), one concerning pornography (No. 351-3666);

-- by Mr. Frazer (Saanich -- Gulf Islands), one concerning the official languages of Canada (No. 351-3667);

-- by Mr. McTeague (Ontario), one concerning crimes of violence (No. 351-3668);

-- by Mr. McWhinney (Vancouver Quadra), one concerning the Canada Post Corporation (No. 351-3669);

-- by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), two concerning gun control (Nos. 351-3670 and 351-3671), one concerning the Official Opposition (No. 351-3672), one concerning the Young Offenders Act (No. 351-3673), one concerning Canada's railways (No. 351-3674) and one concerning the parole system (No. 351-3675);

-- by Mr. Jordan (Leeds -- Grenville), one concerning hormone use in livestock (No. 351-3676);

-- by Mr. Pillitteri (Niagara Falls), one concerning the Canadian Human Rights Act (No. 351-3677);

-- by Mr. Strahl (Fraser Valley East), one concerning the definition of family (No. 351-3678), one concerning euthanasia (No. 351-3679), one concerning abortion (No. 351-3680), one concerning gun control (No. 351-3681) and one concerning government spending (No. 351-3682);

-- by Mr. Hart (Okanagan -- Similkameen -- Merritt), one concerning the Criminal Code of Canada (No. 351-3683), one concerning sexual assault (No. 351-3684) and one concerning hormone use in livestock (No. 351-3685);

-- by Mr. Riis (Kamloops), one concerning the parole system (No. 351-3686) and one concerning social policies (No. 351- 3687). Questions on Order Paper Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) presented the answers to questions Q-183 and Q-196 on the Order Paper. GOVERNMENT ORDERS The Order was read for the consideration of a Ways and Means motion to amend the Customs Act and the Customs Tariff and to make related and consequential amendments to other Acts (Sessional Paper No. 8570-351-28), notice of which was laid upon the Table on Tuesday, June 13, 1995. (Ways and Means Proceedings No. 28) Ms. Blondin-Andrew (Secretary of State (Training and Youth)) for Mr. Peters (Secretary of State (International Financial Institutions)), seconded by Mr. Gerrard (Secretary of State (Science, Research and Development)), moved, -- That the motion be concurred in. The question was put on the motion and, pursuant to Order made earlier today, it was deemed agreed to on division. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- The Order was read for the consideration of a Ways and Means motion to amend the Excise Tax Act and the Income Tax Act (Sessional Paper No. 8570-351-29) notice of which was laid upon the Table on Monday, June 19, 1995. (Ways and Means Proceedings No. 29) Ms. Blondin-Andrew (Secretary of State (Training and Youth)) for Mr. Peters (Secretary of State (International Financial Institutions)), seconded by Mr. Gerrard (Secretary of State (Science, Research and Development)), moved, -- That the motion be concurred in. The question was put on the motion and, pursuant to Order made earlier today, the recorded division was deemed demanded and deemed deferred until later today, at 11:30 p.m. The Order was read for the consideration at report stage and second reading of Bill C-91, An Act to continue the Federal Business Development Bank under the name Business Development Bank of Canada, as reported by the Standing Committee on Industry with amendments. Pursuant to Standing Order 76(5), the Speaker selected and grouped for debate the following motions: Group No. 1 -- Motions Nos. 1 to 6 and 26 to 33. Group No. 2 -- Motions Nos. 7 to 11, 14, 15 and 19 to 25. Group No. 3 -- Motions Nos. 12 and 13. Group No. 4 -- Motions Nos. 16, 17 and 18. By unanimous consent, the House proceeded to the consideration of the motions in Group No. 4. Group No. 4 Mr. McClelland (Edmonton Southwest), seconded by Mr. Schmidt (Okanagan Centre), moved Motion No. 16, -- That Bill C-91, in Clause 23, be amended by replacing lines 40 to 42, on page 10, with the following: ``shares with a par value of $100 each, but the paid-in capital of the Bank,". Mr. McClelland (Edmonton Southwest), seconded by Mr. Schmidt (Okanagan Centre), moved Motion No. 17, -- That Bill C-91, in Clause 24, be amended (a) by replacing lines 18 and 19, on page 11, with the following: ``24. The rights conferred by shares include"; and (b) by deleting lines 26 to 38, on page 11. Mr. McClelland (Edmonton Southwest), seconded by Mr. Schmidt (Okanagan Centre), moved Motion No. 18, -- That Bill C-91, in Clause 27, be amended by replacing lines 28 to 42, on page 12 and lines 1 to 23, on page 13, with the following: ``(a) authorizing the issue of shares in one or more series and authorizing the Board to fix, by resolution, the maximum number of shares in each series and to determine the designation, rights, privileges, restrictions and conditions attaching to the shares of each series, subject to any limitation set out in the by-law; (b) changing authorized shares without par value, whether issued or not, into shares with a par value and changing authorized shares with a par value, whether issued or not, into shares without par value; and (c) consolidating or subdividing shares." Debate arose on the motions in Group No. 4. The question was put on Motion No. 16 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), the recorded division, which also applies to Motion No. 17, was deferred. The question was put on Motion No. 18 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), the recorded division was deferred. Group No. 1 Ms. Blondin-Andrew (Secretary of State (Training and Youth)) for Mr. Manley (Minister of Industry), seconded by Mr. Gerrard (Secretary of State (Science, Research and Development)), moved Motion No. 1, -- That the title of Bill C-91 be amended by substituting the following for ``Small Business Bank of Canada": ``Business Development Bank of Canada". Mr. Rocheleau (Trois-Rivières), seconded by Mr. Leroux (Richmond -- Wolfe), moved Motion No. 2, -- That Bill C-91 be amended by deleting Clause 1. Ms. Blondin-Andrew (Secretary of State (Training and Youth)) for Mr. Manley (Minister of Industry), seconded by Mr. Gerrard (Secretary of State (Science, Research and Development)), moved Motion No. 3, -- That section 1 of Bill C-91 be amended by substituting the following for ``Small Business Bank of Canada": ``Business Development Bank of Canada". Ms. Blondin-Andrew (Secretary of State (Training and Youth)) for Mr. Manley (Minister of Industry), seconded by Mr. Gerrard (Secretary of State (Science, Research and Development)), moved Motion No. 4, -- That section 2 of Bill C-91 be amended by substituting the following for ``Small Business Bank of Canada": ``Business Development Bank of Canada". Mr. Rocheleau (Trois-Rivières), seconded by Mr. Leroux (Richmond -- Wolfe), moved Motion No. 5, -- That Bill C-91, in Clause 3, be amended by replacing lines 23 to 27, on page 2, with the following: ``3. (1) The Federal Business Development Bank is continued as a body corporate." Ms. Blondin-Andrew (Secretary of State (Training and Youth)) for Mr. Manley (Minister of Industry), seconded by Mr. Gerrard (Secretary of State (Science, Research and Development)), moved Motion No. 6, -- That subsection 3(1) of Bill C-91 be amended by substituting the following for ``Small Business Bank of Canada": ``Business Development Bank of Canada". Ms. Blondin-Andrew (Secretary of State (Training and Youth)) for Mr. Manley (Minister of Industry), seconded by Mr. Gerrard (Secretary of State (Science, Research and Development)), moved Motion No. 26, -- That section 43 of Bill C-91 be amended by substituting the following for ``Small Business Bank of Canada": ``Business Development Bank of Canada". Ms. Blondin-Andrew (Secretary of State (Training and Youth)) for Mr. Manley (Minister of Industry), seconded by Mr. Gerrard (Secretary of State (Science, Research and Development)), moved Motion No. 27, -- That section 44 of Bill C-91 be amended by substituting the following for ``Small Business Bank of Canada": ``Business Development Bank of Canada". Ms. Blondin-Andrew (Secretary of State (Training and Youth)) for Mr. Manley (Minister of Industry), seconded by Mr. Gerrard (Secretary of State (Science, Research and Development)), moved Motion No. 28, -- That section 45 of Bill C-91 be amended by substituting the following for ``Small Business Bank of Canada": ``Business Development Bank of Canada". Ms. Blondin-Andrew (Secretary of State (Training and Youth)) for Mr. Manley (Minister of Industry), seconded by Mr. Gerrard (Secretary of State (Science, Research and Development)), moved Motion No. 29, -- That section 47 of Bill C-91 be amended by substituting the following for ``Small Business Bank of Canada": ``Business Development Bank of Canada". Ms. Blondin-Andrew (Secretary of State (Training and Youth)) for Mr. Manley (Minister of Industry), seconded by Mr. Gerrard (Secretary of State (Science, Research and Development)), moved Motion No. 30, -- That section 49 of Bill C-91 be amended by substituting the following for ``Small Business Bank of Canada": ``Business Development Bank of Canada". Ms. Blondin-Andrew (Secretary of State (Training and Youth)) for Mr. Manley (Minister of Industry), seconded by Mr. Gerrard (Secretary of State (Science, Research and Development)), moved Motion No. 31, -- That section 51 of Bill C-91 be amended by substituting the following for ``Small Business Bank of Canada": ``Business Development Bank of Canada". Ms. Blondin-Andrew (Secretary of State (Training and Youth)) for Mr. Manley (Minister of Industry), seconded by Mr. Gerrard (Secretary of State (Science, Research and Development)), moved Motion No. 32, -- That section 53 of Bill C-91 be amended by substituting the following for ``Small Business Bank of Canada": ``Business Development Bank of Canada". Ms. Blondin-Andrew (Secretary of State (Training and Youth)) for Mr. Manley (Minister of Industry), seconded by Mr. Gerrard (Secretary of State (Science, Research and Development)), moved Motion No. 33, -- That the Schedule to Bill C-91 be amended by substituting the following for ``Small Business Bank of Canada": ``Business Development Bank of Canada". Debate arose on the motions in Group No. 1. PRIVATE MEMBERS' BUSINESS At 5:30 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 30(6), the House proceeded to the consideration of Private Members' Business. Ms. McLaughlin (Yukon), seconded by Mr. Blaikie (Winnipeg Transcona), moved, -- That, in the opinion of this House, the government should begin consultations with the provinces and territories to establish the parameters for a national registry of drugs, medical devices (implanted in the body for more than one year) and various forms of biotechnology. (Private Members' Business M-375) Debate arose thereon. Pursuant to Standing Order 96(1), the Order was dropped from the Order Paper. GOVERNMENT ORDERS The House resumed consideration at report stage and second reading of Bill C-91, An Act to continue the Federal Business Development Bank under the name Business Development Bank of Canada, as reported by the Standing Committee on Industry with amendments; And of the motions in Group No. 1 (Motions Nos. 1 to 6 and 26 to 33). The debate continued on the motions in Group No. 1. The question was put on Motion No. 1 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), the recorded division, which also applies to Motions Nos. 3, 4, 6 and 26 to 33, was deferred. Group No. 2 Mr. Rocheleau (Trois-Rivières), seconded by Mr. Laurin (Joliette), moved Motion No. 7, -- That Bill C-91, in Clause 4, be amended by replacing lines 1 to 8, on page 3, with the following: ``4. (1) The objects of the Bank are to promote and assist in the establishment and development of business enterprises in Canada by providing, in the manner and to the extent authorized by this Act, financial assistance, management counselling, management training, information and advice and such other services as are ancillary or incidental to any of the foregoing. (2) The Bank in carrying out its objects shall give particular consideration to the needs of small business enterprises." Mr. McClelland (Edmonton Southwest), seconded by Mr. Harper (Simcoe Centre), moved Motion No. 8, -- That Bill C-91, in Clause 14, be amended by adding after line 23, on page 6, the following: ``(1.1) The total amount of all loans made by the Bank shall not exceed $18 billion." Mr. Rocheleau (Trois-Rivières), seconded by Mr. Laurin (Joliette), moved Motion No. 9, -- That Bill C-91, in Clause 14, be amended by replacing lines 2 and 3, on page 7, with the following: ``are offered to a person only if such services are not otherwise available to that person on reasonable terms and conditions." Mr. McClelland (Edmonton Southwest), seconded by Mr. Harper (Simcoe Centre), moved Motion No. 10, -- That Bill C-91, in Clause 16, be amended by replacing line 22, on page 8, with the following: ``made or given by another person, other than a Crown corporation, if". Mr. McClelland (Edmonton Southwest), seconded by Mr. Harper (Simcoe Centre), moved Motion No. 11, -- That Bill C-91, in Clause 17, be amended by replacing lines 31 to 35, on page 8, with the following: ``(a) business planning services; and (b) management counselling and training, including seminars, conferences and meetings." Mr. Rocheleau (Trois-Rivières), seconded by Mr. Laurin (Joliette), moved Motion No. 14, -- That Bill C-91, in Clause 22, be amended by deleting lines 25 to 27, on page 10. Mr. McClelland (Edmonton Southwest), seconded by Mr. Harper (Simcoe Centre), moved Motion No. 15, -- That Bill C-91, in Clause 22, be amended by replacing line 29, on page 10, with the following: ``any entity by any means, except an entity that is a trust company, insurance company or dealer in investments or securities;". Mr. Rocheleau (Trois-Rivières), seconded by Mr. Laurin (Joliette), moved Motion No. 19, -- That Bill C-91, in Clause 28, be amended by adding after line 29, on page 13, the following: ``(1.1) The yield of hybrid capital instruments issued by the Bank shall not be fixed according to the profits of the Bank." Mr. Rocheleau (Trois-Rivières), seconded by Mr. Laurin (Joliette), moved Motion No. 20, -- That Bill C-91, in Clause 31, be amended (a) by replacing line 27, on page 14, with the following: ``parent of a director,"; and (b) by replacing line 29, on page 14, with the following: ``parent of a director, or (d) the father, the mother, the sister or the brother of the spouse of a director." Mr. McClelland (Edmonton Southwest), seconded by Mr. Harper (Simcoe Centre), moved Motion No. 21, -- That Bill C-91, in Clause 32, be amended by replacing lines 30 to 34, on page 14, and lines 1 to 29, on page 15, with the following: ``32. The Bank shall not grant any assistance, whether in the form of a loan, investment, guarantee, purchase or lease, to an applicant who is an interested person or, if the applicant is a firm or corporation, to a firm or corporation where a partner of the firm or a shareholder, director or officer of the corporation is an interested person." Mr. McClelland (Edmonton Southwest), seconded by Mr. Harper (Simcoe Centre), moved Motion No. 22, -- That Bill C- 91, in Clause 35, be amended by replacing lines 38 and 39, on page 15, with the following: ``35. (1) Five years after this Act comes into force, and every five years afterward, the". Mr. Rocheleau (Trois-Rivières), seconded by Mr. Laurin (Joliette), moved Motion No. 23, -- That Bill C-91, in Clause 36, be amended (a) by replacing line 28, on page 16, with the following: ``Tax Act;"; and (b) by replacing line 30, on page 16, with the following: ``whom the information relates; or (e) for the purposes of a committee of either House of Parliament." Mr. Manley (Minister of Industry), seconded by Mr. Mills (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Industry), moved Motion No. 24, -- That Clause 37 of Bill C-91 be amended by substituting the following: ``Except with the consent in writing of the Bank, a person must not in any prospectus or advertisement, or for any other business purpose, use the name of the Bank, the names ``B.D. Canada", ``Federal Business Development Bank" or ``Industrial Development Bank" or the initials ``B.D.B.C." or ``F.B.D.B.", in English, or the names ``Banque fédérale de développement", ``Banque d'expansion industrielle" or ``B.D. Canada" or the initials ``B.D.C." or ``B.F.D.", in French." Mr. McClelland (Edmonton Southwest), seconded by Mr. Harper (Simcoe Centre), moved Motion No. 25, -- That Bill C-91 be amended by adding after line 5, on page 17, the following new Clause: ``39. The Governor in Council may, by regulation, define ``hybrid capital instrument''." Debate arose on the motions in Group No. 2. TABLING OF DOCUMENTS By unanimous consent, Mr. Mills (Broadview -- Greenwood) laid upon the Table, -- A note concerning the Business Development Bank of Canada. (English text only) -- Sessional Paper No. 8530-351-37. GOVERNMENT ORDERS The House resumed consideration at report stage and second reading of Bill C-91, An Act to continue the Federal Business Development Bank under the name Business Development Bank of Canada, as reported by the Standing Committee on Industry with amendments; And of the motions in Group No. 2 (Motions Nos. 7 to 11, 14, 15 and 19 to 25). The question was put on Motion No. 7 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), the recorded division was deferred. The question was put on Motion No. 8 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), the recorded division was deferred. The question was put on Motion No. 9 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), the recorded division was deferred. The question was put on Motion No. 10 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), the recorded division was deferred. The question was put on Motion No. 11 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), the recorded division was deferred. The question was put on Motion No. 14 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), the recorded division was deferred. The question was put on Motion No. 15 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), the recorded division was deferred. The question was put on Motion No. 19 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), the recorded division was deferred. The question was put on Motion No. 20 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), the recorded division was deferred. The question was put on Motion No. 21 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), the recorded division was deferred. The question was put on Motion No. 22 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), the recorded division was deferred. The question was put on Motion No. 23 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), the recorded division was deferred. The question was put on Motion No. 24 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), the recorded division was deferred. The question was put on Motion No. 25 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), the recorded division was deferred. Group No. 3 Mr. Rocheleau (Trois-Rivières), seconded by Mr. Leroux (Richmond -- Wolfe), moved Motion No. 12, -- That Bill C-91 be amended by deleting Clause 20. Mr. Rocheleau (Trois-Rivières), seconded by Mr. Leroux (Richmond -- Wolfe), moved Motion No. 13, -- That Bill C-91 be amended by deleting Clause 21. Debate arose on the motions in Group No. 3. The question was put on Motion No. 12 and it was negatived on division. Accordingly, Motion No. 13 was also negatived on division. Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded divisions at report stage of Bill C-91, An Act to continue the Federal Business Development Bank under the name Business Development Bank of Canada, as reported by the Standing Committee on Industry with amendments. Pursuant to Standing Order 45(5)(a), the deferred recorded divisions were further deferred until later today, at 11:30 p.m. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- The Order was read for the consideration at report stage of Bill C-82, An Act to amend the Royal Canadian Mint Act, as reported by the Standing Committee on Government Operations without amendment. Mr. Gerrard (Secretary of State (Science, Research and Development)) for Mr. Dingwall (Minister of Public Works and Government Services), seconded by Mr. Rock (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada), moved, -- That the Bill be concurred in at report stage. The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on division. Accordingly, the Bill was concurred in at report stage. Pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(11), Mr. Gerrard (Secretary of State (Science, Research and Development)) for Mr. Dingwall (Minister of Public Works and Government Services), seconded by Mr. Rock (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada), moved, -- That the Bill be now read a third time and do pass. Debate arose thereon. Mr. Epp (Elk Island), seconded by Mr. Hermanson (Kindersley -- Lloydminster), moved the following amendment, -- That the motion be amended by deleting all the words after the word ``That" and substituting the following; ``Bill C-82, An Act to amend the Royal Canadian Mint Act, be not now read a third time but be referred back to the Standing Committee on Government Operations for the purpose of re-considering clause 1." Debate arose thereon. The question was put on the amendment and it was negatived on division. The question was put on the main motion and, pursuant to Standing Order 45(5)(a), the recorded division was deferred until later today, at 11:30 p.m. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- The Order was read for the consideration at report stage of Bill C-65, An Act to reorganize and dissolve certain federal agencies, as reported by the Standing Committee on Government Operations with amendments. Pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(5), the Speaker selected and grouped for debate the following motions: Group No. 1 -- Motions Nos. 1, 3 to 7, 9 and 12 to 16. Group No. 2 -- Motion No. 2. Group No. 3 -- Motion No. 8. Group No. 4 -- Motions Nos. 10 and 11. Group No. 1 Mr. Rocheleau (Trois-Rivières), seconded by Mr. Marchand (Québec-Est), moved Motion No. 1, -- That Bill C-65, in Clause 2, be amended by replacing line 14, on page 1, with the following: ``recommendation of the Minister, following consultation with the Lieutenant Governor of each province in Atlantic Canada and with the approval of the standing committee of the House of Commons that normally considers matters relating to industry, to hold of-". Mr. Fillion (Chicoutimi), seconded by Mr. Rocheleau (Trois-Rivières), moved Motion No. 3, -- That Bill C-65, in Clause 4, be amended by replacing line 16, on page 2, with the following: ``Council, on the recommendation of the Minister, following consultation with the government of each province and with the approval of the standing committee of the House of Commons that normally considers cultural matters. (2.1) The Board of Directors shall include representatives of the various regions in Canada." Mr. Bélisle (La Prairie), seconded by Mr. Rocheleau (Trois-Rivières), moved Motion No. 4, -- That Bill C-65, in Clause 6, be amended by replacing line 31, on page 2, with the following: ``Council as provided in section 4, following consultation with the government of each province and with the approval of the standing committee of the House of Commons that normally considers cultural matters. 3.1 The Council shall include representatives of the various regions of Canada." Mr. Bélisle (La Prairie), seconded by Mr. Rocheleau (Trois-Rivières), moved Motion No. 5, -- That Bill C-65, in Clause 19, be amended by replacing line 28, on page 5, with the following: ``the recommendation of the Corporation, following consultation with the government of each province and with the approval of the standing committee of the House of Commons that normally considers cultural matters, ap-". Mr. Bélisle (La Prairie), seconded by Mr. Rocheleau (Trois-Rivières), moved Motion No. 6, -- That Bill C-65, in Clause 21, be amended by replacing line 19, on page 6, with the following: ``ister, following consultation with the government of each province and with the approval of the standing committee of the House of Commons that normally considers cultural matters. (1.1) The Board shall include representatives of the various regions in Canada." Mr. Godin (Châteauguay), seconded by Mr. Dumas (Argenteuil -- Papineau), moved Motion No. 7, -- That Bill C- 65, in Clause 25, be amended by replacing line 30, on page 7, with the following: ``required, to the government of each province and to other ministers on the emer-". Mr. Marchand (Québec-Est), seconded by Mr. Rocheleau (Trois-Rivières), moved Motion No. 9, -- That Bill C-65, in Clause 46, be amended by replacing line 17, on page 12, with the following: ``ed in section 19, following consultation with the government of each province and with the approval of the standing committee of the House of Commons that normally considers cultural matters. (1.1) The Board shall include representatives of the various regions of Canada." Mr. Marchand (Québec-Est), seconded by Mr. Rocheleau (Trois-Rivières), moved Motion No. 12, -- That Bill C-65, in Clause 54, be amended by adding after line 16, on page 14, the following: ``(3.1) The members, the Chairperson and the Vice-Chairperson shall be appointed following consultation with the government of each province and with the approval of the standing committee of the House of Commons that normally considers matters relating to this Act." Mr. Bellemare (Carleton -- Gloucester), seconded by Mr. Grose (Oshawa), moved Motion No. 13, -- That Bill C-65, in Clause 54, be amended by replacing lines 22 to 25, on page 14, with the following: ``(c) one from a municipality in Ontario, other than the city of Ottawa, wholly or partly within the National Capital Region; (d) one from a municipality in Quebec, other than the city of Hull, wholly or partly within the National Capital Region; and''. Mr. Marchand (Québec-Est), seconded by Mr. Rocheleau (Trois-Rivières), moved Motion No. 14, -- That Bill C-65, in Clause 54, be amended by adding after line 28, on page 14, the following: ``(4.1) The members appointed under paragraph (4)(e) shall represent the various regions of Canada." Mr. Fillion (Chicoutimi), seconded by Mr. Rocheleau (Trois-Rivières), moved Motion No. 15, -- That Bill C-65, in Clause 57, be amended by replacing lines 16 to 18, on page 15, with the following: ``appointed by the Governor in Council on the recommendation of the Minister, following consultation with the government of each province and with the approval of the standing committee of the House of Commons that normally considers cultural matters. (1.1) The Board shall include representatives of the various regions of Canada." Mr. Laurin (Joliette), seconded by Mr. Bélisle (La Prairie), moved Motion No. 16, -- That Bill C-65, in Clause 64, be amended by replacing lines 11 and 12, on page 17, with the following: ``Minister, following consultation with the government of each province and with the approval of the Governor in Council and the standing committee of the House of Commons that normally considers matters relating to industry, to hold office during pleasure for". Debate arose on the motions in Group No. 1. The question was put on Motion No. 1 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division, which also applies to Motions Nos. 3 to 7, 9, 12, 14, 15 and 16, was deferred. The question was put on Motion No. 13 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred. Group No. 2 Mr. Epp (Elk Island), seconded by Mr. Forseth (New Westminster -- Burnaby), moved Motion No. 2, -- That Bill C-65, in Clause 4, be amended by replacing lines 13 and 14, on page 2, with the following: ``the Corporation consisting of two directors, not including the Chairperson and the pres-". Debate arose on the motion in Group No. 2. The question was put on Motion No. 2 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred. Group No. 3 Mr. Epp (Elk Island), seconded by Mr. Silye (Calgary Centre), moved Motion No. 8, -- That Bill C-65, in Clause 26, be amended by replacing lines 1 to 3, on page 8, with the following: ``26. The Act is amended by adding the following after section 6: ``6.1 The Minister may, with the approval of"". Debate arose on the motion in Group No. 3. The question was put on Motion No. 8 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred. Group No. 4 Mr. Epp (Elk Island), seconded by Mr. Silye (Calgary Centre), moved Motion No. 10, -- That Bill C-65, in Clause 49, be amended by replacing lines 10 and 11, on page 13, with the following: ``49. Subsection 9(1) of the Act is replaced by the following: ``9. (1) The Minister shall establish a board to be known as the National Archives of Canada Advisory Board, consisting of the Archivist, the National Librarian, the Director of the Canadian Museum of Civilization and not more than seven other members appointed, from among persons who are experienced in archival matters, by a committee of the House of Commons composed of two members from the government party and three members from opposition parties."" Mr. Epp (Elk Island), seconded by Mr. Silye (Calgary Centre), moved Motion No. 11, -- That Bill C-65 be amended by deleting Clause 50. Debate arose on the motions in Group No. 4. The question was put on Motion No. 10 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division, which also applies to Motion No. 11, was deferred. Pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded divisions at report stage of Bill C-65, An Act to reorganize and dissolve certain federal agencies, as reported by the Standing Committee on Government Operations with amendments. Pursuant to Standing Order 45(5)(a), the deferred recorded divisions were further deferred until later today, at 11:30 p.m. The Order was read for the third reading of Bill C-54, An Act to amend the Old Age Security Act, the Canada Pension Plan, the Children's Special Allowances Act and the Unemployment Insurance Act. Mr. Rock (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada) for Mr. Axworthy (Minister of Human Resources Development), seconded by Mrs. Finestone (Secretary of State (Multiculturalism) (Status of Women)), moved, -- That the Bill be now read a third time and do pass. Debate arose thereon. The question was put on the motion and, by unanimous consent, the recorded division was deferred until later today, at 11:30 p.m. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- At 11:30 p.m., pursuant to Order made earlier today, the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the motion of Mr. Peters (Secretary of State (International Financial Institutions)), seconded by Mr. Gerrard (Secretary of State (Science, Research and Development)), -- That Ways and Means Motion No. 29 be concurred in. The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:

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Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Allmand -- Althouse -- Anawak -- Anderson -- Arseneault -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Asselin -- Augustine -- Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bachand -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bellehumeur -- Bellemare -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Bethel -- Bevilacqua -- Blaikie -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Bouchard -- Boudria -- Brien -- Brushett -- Bryden -- Bélair -- Bélisle -- Caccia -- Calder -- Campbell -- Caron -- Catterall -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Chrétien (Frontenac) -- Clancy -- Cohen -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Cowling -- Crête -- Culbert -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Daviault -- de Savoye -- Deshaies -- DeVillers -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Dubé -- Duceppe -- Duhamel -- Dumas -- Dupuy -- Easter -- Eggleton -- English -- Fewchuk -- Fillion -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Flis -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine) -- Gagnon (Québec) -- Gallaway -- Gauthier (Roberval) -- Gerrard -- Godfrey -- Godin -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray (Windsor West) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Guay -- Guimond -- Harb -- Harvard -- Hickey -- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Jacob -- Jordan -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lalonde -- Landry -- Langlois -- Lastewka -- Laurin -- Lavigne (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- Lebel -- LeBlanc (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Leblanc (Longueuil) -- Lee -- Lefebvre -- Leroux (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Leroux (Shefford) -- Lincoln -- Loney -- Loubier -- MacAulay -- MacLaren -- MacLellan (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The Sydneys) -- Maheu -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marchand -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKinnon -- McLaughlin -- McLellan (Edmonton Northwest) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mercier -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murphy -- Murray -- Ménard -- Nault -- Nunez -- O'Brien -- O'Reilly -- Paradis -- Paré -- Patry -- Payne -- Peric -- Peters -- Peterson -- Phinney -- Picard (Drummond) -- Pickard (Essex -- Kent) -- Pillitteri -- Plamondon -- Pomerleau -- Proud -- Reed -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Riis -- Ringuette-Maltais -- Robillard -- Rocheleau -- Rock -- Rompkey -- Sauvageau -- Scott (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Serré -- Sheridan -- Simmons -- Skoke -- St. Denis -- Stewart (Brant) -- Stewart (Northumberland) -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Thalheimer -- Torsney -- Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Tremblay (Rosemont) -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Venne -- Verran -- Walker -- Wappel -- Wells -- Whelan -- Wood -- Young -- Zed -- 198

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Members--Députés

-- Ablonczy -- Benoit -- Breitkreuz (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Bridgman -- Brown (Calgary Southeast) -- Cummins -- Epp -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Grey (Beaver River) -- Hanger -- Harper (Calgary West) -- Harper (Simcoe Centre) -- Hart -- Hayes -- Hermanson -- Hill (Macleod) -- Hill (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Johnston -- Manning -- Mayfield -- McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) -- Meredith -- Mills (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Penson -- Ramsay -- Schmidt -- Silye -- Solberg -- Speaker -- Stinson -- Strahl -- White (Fraser Valley West) -- Williams -- 37

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Bernier (Gaspé) -- Bertrand -- Bélanger -- Canuel -- Debien -- Regan -- St-Laurent -- Tobin -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Pursuant to Standing Order 45(5)(a), the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded divisions at report stage and second reading of Bill C-91, An Act to continue the Federal Business Development Bank under the name Business Development Bank of Canada as reported by the Standing Committee on Industry with amendments. The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 1 of Mr. Manley (Minister of Industry), seconded by Mr. Gerrard (Secretary of State (Science, Research and Development)), -- That the title of Bill C-91 be amended by substituting the following for ``Small Business Bank of Canada": ``Business Development Bank of Canada". The question was put on Motion No. 1 and it was agreed to on the following division:

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Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Allmand -- Anawak -- Anderson -- Arseneault -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bellemare -- Bethel -- Bevilacqua -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Boudria -- Brushett -- Bryden -- Bélair -- Caccia -- Calder -- Campbell -- Catterall -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Clancy -- Cohen -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Cowling -- Culbert -- DeVillers -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Duhamel -- Dupuy -- Easter -- Eggleton -- English -- Fewchuk -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Flis -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine) -- Gallaway -- Gerrard -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray (Windsor West) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Harvard -- Hickey -- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Jordan -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- LeBlanc (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Lee -- Lincoln -- Loney -- MacAulay -- MacLaren -- MacLellan (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The -- Maheu -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Sydneys) -- Manley -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKinnon -- McLellan (Edmonton Northwest) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murphy -- Murray -- Nault -- O'Brien -- O'Reilly -- Paradis -- Patry -- Payne -- Peric -- Peters -- Peterson -- Phinney -- Pickard (Essex -- Kent) -- Pillitteri -- Proud -- Reed -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Ringuette-Maltais -- Robillard -- Rock -- Rompkey -- Scott (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Serré -- Sheridan -- Simmons -- Skoke -- St. Denis -- Stewart (Brant) -- Stewart (Northumberland) -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Thalheimer -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Verran -- Walker -- Wappel -- Wells -- Whelan -- Wood -- Young -- Zed -- 145

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Members--Députés

-- Ablonczy -- Althouse -- Asselin -- Bachand -- Bellehumeur -- Benoit -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Blaikie -- Bouchard -- Breitkreuz (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Bridgman -- Brien -- Brown (Calgary Southeast) -- Bélisle -- Caron -- Chrétien (Frontenac) -- Crête -- Cummins -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Daviault -- de Savoye -- Deshaies -- Dubé -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Epp -- Fillion -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Gagnon (Québec) -- Gauthier (Roberval) -- Godin -- Grey (Beaver River) -- Guay -- Guimond -- Hanger -- Harper (Calgary West) -- Harper (Simcoe Centre) -- Hart -- Hayes -- Hermanson -- Hill (Macleod) -- Hill (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Jacob -- Johnston -- Lalonde -- Landry -- Langlois -- Laurin -- Lavigne (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- Lebel -- Leblanc (Longueuil) -- Lefebvre -- Leroux (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Leroux (Shefford) -- Loubier -- Manning -- Marchand -- Mayfield -- McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) -- McLaughlin -- Mercier -- Meredith -- Mills (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Ménard -- Nunez -- Paré -- Penson -- Picard (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Pomerleau -- Ramsay -- Riis -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Schmidt -- Silye -- Solberg -- Speaker -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Tremblay (Rosemont) -- Venne -- White (Fraser Valley West) -- Williams -- 90

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Bernier (Gaspé) -- Bertrand -- Bélanger -- Canuel -- Debien -- Regan -- St-Laurent -- Tobin Accordingly, Motions Nos. 3, 4, 6 and 26 to 33 were also agreed to on the same division. Midnight The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 7 of Mr. Rocheleau (Trois-Rivières), seconded by Mr. Laurin (Joliette), -- That Bill C-91, in Clause 4, be amended by replacing lines 1 to 8, on page 3, with the following: ``4. (1) The objects of the Bank are to promote and assist in the establishment and development of business enterprises in Canada by providing, in the manner and to the extent authorized by this Act, financial assistance, management counselling, management training, information and advice and such other services as are ancillary or incidental to any of the foregoing. (2) The Bank in carrying out its objects shall give particular consideration to the needs of small business enterprises." The question was put on Motion No. 7 and it was negatived on the following division:

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Members--Députés

-- Althouse -- Asselin -- Bachand -- Bellehumeur -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Blaikie -- Bouchard -- Brien -- Bélisle -- Caron -- Chrétien (Frontenac) -- Crête -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Daviault -- de Savoye -- Deshaies -- Dubé -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Fillion -- Gagnon (Québec) -- Gauthier (Roberval) -- Godin -- Guay -- Guimond -- Jacob -- Lalonde -- Landry -- Langlois -- Laurin -- Lavigne (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- Lebel -- Leblanc (Longueuil) -- Lefebvre -- Leroux (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Leroux (Shefford) -- Loubier -- Marchand -- McLaughlin -- Mercier -- Ménard -- Nunez -- Paré -- Picard (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Pomerleau -- Riis -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Tremblay (Rosemont) -- Venne -- 53

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Members--Députés

-- Ablonczy -- Adams -- Alcock -- Allmand -- Anawak -- Anderson -- Arseneault -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bellemare -- Benoit -- Bethel -- Bevilacqua -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Boudria -- Breitkreuz (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Bridgman -- Brown (Calgary Southeast) -- Brushett -- Bryden -- Bélair -- Caccia -- Calder -- Campbell -- Catterall -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Clancy -- Cohen -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Cowling -- Culbert -- Cummins -- DeVillers -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Duhamel -- Dupuy -- Easter -- Eggleton -- English -- Epp -- Fewchuk -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Flis -- Fontana -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon (Bonaventure -- Îles-de- -- Gallaway -- Gerrard -- Godfrey -- la-Madeleine) -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray (Windsor West) -- Grey (Beaver River) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Hanger -- Harb -- Harper (Calgary West) -- Harper (Simcoe Centre) -- Hart -- Harvard -- Hayes -- Hermanson -- Hickey -- Hill (Macleod) -- Hill (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Johnston -- Jordan -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- LeBlanc (Cape/Cap-Breton -- Lee -- Lincoln -- Loney -- Highlands -- Canso) -- MacAulay -- MacLaren -- MacLellan (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The Sydneys) -- Maheu -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Manning -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- Mayfield -- McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKinnon -- McLellan (Edmonton Northwest) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Meredith -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Mills (Red Deer) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Morrison -- Murphy -- Murray -- Nault -- O'Brien -- O'Reilly -- Paradis -- Patry -- Payne -- Penson -- Peric -- Peters -- Peterson -- Phinney -- Pickard (Essex -- Kent) -- Pillitteri -- Proud -- Ramsay -- Reed -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Ringuette-Maltais -- Robillard -- Rock -- Rompkey -- Schmidt -- Scott (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Serré -- Sheridan -- Silye -- Simmons -- Skoke -- Solberg -- Speaker -- St. Denis -- Stewart (Brant) -- Stewart (Northumberland) -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Thalheimer -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Verran -- Walker -- Wappel -- Wells -- Whelan -- White (Fraser Valley West) -- Williams -- Wood -- Young -- Zed -- 182

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Bernier (Gaspé) -- Bertrand -- Bélanger -- Canuel -- Debien -- Regan -- St-Laurent -- Tobin The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 8 of Mr. McClelland (Edmonton Southwest), seconded by Mr. Harper (Simcoe Centre), -- That Bill C-91, in Clause 14, be amended by adding after line 23, on page 6, the following: ``(1.1) The total amount of all loans made by the Bank shall not exceed $18 billion." The question was put on Motion No. 8 and it was negatived on the following division:

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Members--Députés

-- Ablonczy -- Benoit -- Breitkreuz (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Bridgman -- Brown (Calgary Southeast) -- Cummins -- Epp -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Grey (Beaver River) -- Hanger -- Harper (Calgary West) -- Harper (Simcoe Centre) -- Hart -- Hayes -- Hermanson -- Hill (Macleod) -- Hill (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Johnston -- Manning -- Mayfield -- McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) -- Meredith -- Mills (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Penson -- Ramsay -- Schmidt -- Silye -- Solberg -- Speaker -- Stinson -- Strahl -- White (Fraser Valley West) -- Williams -- 37

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Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Allmand -- Althouse -- Anawak -- Anderson -- Arseneault -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Asselin -- Augustine -- Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bachand -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bellehumeur -- Bellemare -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Bethel -- Bevilacqua -- Blaikie -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Bouchard -- Boudria -- Brien -- Brushett -- Bryden -- Bélair -- Bélisle -- Caccia -- Calder -- Campbell -- Caron -- Catterall -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Chrétien (Frontenac) -- Clancy -- Cohen -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Cowling -- Crête -- Culbert -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Daviault -- de Savoye -- Deshaies -- DeVillers -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Dubé -- Duceppe -- Duhamel -- Dumas -- Dupuy -- Easter -- Eggleton -- English -- Fewchuk -- Fillion -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Flis -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine) -- Gagnon (Québec) -- Gallaway -- Gauthier (Roberval) -- Gerrard -- Godfrey -- Godin -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray (Windsor West) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Guay -- Guimond -- Harb -- Harvard -- Hickey -- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Jacob -- Jordan -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lalonde -- Landry -- Langlois -- Lastewka -- Laurin -- Lavigne (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- Lebel -- LeBlanc (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Leblanc (Longueuil) -- Lee -- Lefebvre -- Leroux (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Leroux (Shefford) -- Lincoln -- Loney -- Loubier -- MacAulay -- MacLaren -- MacLellan (Cape/Cap Breton -- The Sydneys) -- Maheu -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marchand -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKinnon -- McLaughlin -- McLellan (Edmonton Northwest) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mercier -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murphy -- Murray -- Ménard -- Nault -- Nunez -- O'Brien -- O'Reilly -- Paradis -- Paré -- Patry -- Payne -- Peric -- Peters -- Peterson -- Phinney -- Picard (Drummond) -- Pickard (Essex -- Kent) -- Pillitteri -- Plamondon -- Pomerleau -- Proud -- Reed -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Riis -- Ringuette-Maltais -- Robillard -- Rocheleau -- Rock -- Rompkey -- Sauvageau -- Scott (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Serré -- Sheridan -- Simmons -- Skoke -- St. Denis -- Stewart (Brant) -- Stewart (Northumberland) -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Thalheimer -- Torsney -- Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Tremblay (Rosemont) -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Venne -- Verran -- Walker -- Wappel -- Wells -- Whelan -- Wood -- Young -- Zed -- 198

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Bernier (Gaspé) -- Bertrand -- Bélanger -- Canuel -- Debien -- Regan -- St-Laurent -- Tobin The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 9 of Mr. Rocheleau (Trois-Rivières), seconded by Mr. Laurin (Joliette), -- That Bill C- 91, in Clause 14, be amended by replacing lines 2 and 3, on page 7, with the following: ``are offered to a person only if such services are not otherwise available to that person on reasonable terms and conditions." The question was put on Motion No. 9 and it was negatived on the following division:

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Members--Députés

-- Asselin -- Bachand -- Bellehumeur -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Bouchard -- Brien -- Bélisle -- Caron -- Chrétien (Frontenac) -- Crête -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Daviault -- de Savoye -- Deshaies -- Dubé -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Fillion -- Gagnon (Québec) -- Gauthier (Roberval) -- Godin -- Guay -- Guimond -- Jacob -- Lalonde -- Landry -- Langlois -- Laurin -- Lavigne (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- Lebel -- Leblanc (Longueuil) -- Lefebvre -- Leroux (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Leroux (Shefford) -- Loubier -- Marchand -- Mercier -- Ménard -- Nunez -- Paré -- Picard (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Pomerleau -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Tremblay (Rosemont) -- Venne -- 49

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Members--Députés

-- Ablonczy -- Adams -- Alcock -- Allmand -- Althouse -- Anawak -- Anderson -- Arseneault -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bellemare -- Benoit -- Bethel -- Bevilacqua -- Blaikie -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Boudria -- Breitkreuz (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Bridgman -- Brown (Calgary Southeast) -- Brushett -- Bryden -- Bélair -- Caccia -- Calder -- Campbell -- Catterall -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Clancy -- Cohen -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Cowling -- Culbert -- Cummins -- DeVillers -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Duhamel -- Dupuy -- Easter -- Eggleton -- English -- Epp -- Fewchuk -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Flis -- Fontana -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine) -- Gallaway -- Gerrard -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray (Windsor West) -- Grey (Beaver River) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Hanger -- Harb -- Harper (Calgary West) -- Harper (Simcoe Centre) -- Hart -- Harvard -- Hayes -- Hermanson -- Hickey -- Hill (Macleod) -- Hill (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Johnston -- Jordan -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- LeBlanc (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Lee -- Lincoln -- Loney -- MacAulay -- MacLaren -- MacLellan (Cape/Cap Breton -- The Sydneys) -- Maheu -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Manning -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- Mayfield -- McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKinnon -- McLaughlin -- McLellan (Edmonton Northwest) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Meredith -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Mills (Red Deer) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Morrison -- Murphy -- Murray -- Nault -- O'Brien -- O'Reilly -- Paradis -- Patry -- Payne -- Penson -- Peric -- Peters -- Peterson -- Phinney -- Pickard (Essex -- Kent) -- Pillitteri -- Proud -- Ramsay -- Reed -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Riis -- Ringuette-Maltais -- Robillard -- Rock -- Rompkey -- Schmidt -- Scott (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Serré -- Sheridan -- Silye -- Simmons -- Skoke -- Solberg -- Speaker -- St. Denis -- Stewart (Brant) -- Stewart (Northumberland) -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Thalheimer -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Verran -- Walker -- Wappel -- Wells -- Whelan -- White (Fraser Valley West) -- Williams -- Wood -- Young -- Zed -- 186

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Bernier (Gaspé) -- Bertrand -- Bélanger -- Canuel -- Debien -- Regan -- St-Laurent -- Tobin The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 10 of Mr. McClelland (Edmonton Southwest), seconded by Mr. Harper (Simcoe Centre), -- That Bill C-91, in Clause 16, be amended by replacing line 22, on page 8, with the following: ``made or given by another person, other than a Crown corporation, if". The question was put on Motion No. 10 and it was negatived on the following division:

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(Division--Vote N^o 324)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Ablonczy -- Althouse -- Benoit -- Blaikie -- Breitkreuz (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Bridgman -- Brown (Calgary Southeast) -- Cummins -- Epp -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Grey (Beaver River) -- Hanger -- Harper (Calgary West) -- Harper (Simcoe Centre) -- Hart -- Hayes -- Hermanson -- Hill (Macleod) -- Hill (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Johnston -- Manning -- Mayfield -- McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) -- McLaughlin -- Meredith -- Mills (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Penson -- Ramsay -- Riis -- Schmidt -- Silye -- Solberg -- Speaker -- Stinson -- Strahl -- White (Fraser Valley West) -- Williams -- 41

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Allmand -- Anawak -- Anderson -- Arseneault -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Asselin -- Augustine -- Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bachand -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bellehumeur -- Bellemare -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Bethel -- Bevilacqua -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Bouchard -- Boudria -- Brien -- Brushett -- Bryden -- Bélair -- Bélisle -- Caccia -- Calder -- Campbell -- Caron -- Catterall -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Chrétien (Frontenac) -- Clancy -- Cohen -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Cowling -- Crête -- Culbert -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Daviault -- de Savoye -- Deshaies -- DeVillers -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Dubé -- Duceppe -- Duhamel -- Dumas -- Dupuy -- Easter -- Eggleton -- English -- Fewchuk -- Fillion -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Flis -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine) -- Gagnon (Québec) -- Gallaway -- Gauthier (Roberval) -- Gerrard -- Godfrey -- Godin -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray (Windsor West) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Guay -- Guimond -- Harb -- Harvard -- Hickey -- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Jacob -- Jordan -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lalonde -- Landry -- Langlois -- Lastewka -- Laurin -- Lavigne (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- Lebel -- LeBlanc (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Leblanc (Longueuil) -- Lee -- Lefebvre -- Leroux (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Leroux (Shefford) -- Lincoln -- Loney -- Loubier -- MacAulay -- MacLaren -- MacLellan (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Sydneys) -- Maheu -- Marchand -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKinnon -- McLellan (Edmonton Northwest) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mercier -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murphy -- Murray -- Ménard -- Nault -- Nunez -- O'Brien -- O'Reilly -- Paradis -- Paré -- Patry -- Payne -- Peric -- Peters -- Peterson -- Phinney -- Picard (Drummond) -- Pickard (Essex -- Kent) -- Pillitteri -- Plamondon -- Pomerleau -- Proud -- Reed -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Ringuette-Maltais -- Robillard -- Rocheleau -- Rock -- Rompkey -- Sauvageau -- Scott (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Serré -- Sheridan -- Simmons -- Skoke -- St. Denis -- Stewart (Brant) -- Stewart (Northumberland) -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Thalheimer -- Torsney -- Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Tremblay (Rosemont) -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Venne -- Verran -- Walker -- Wappel -- Wells -- Whelan -- Wood -- Young -- Zed -- 194

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Bernier (Gaspé) -- Bertrand -- Bélanger -- Canuel -- Debien -- Regan -- St-Laurent -- Tobin The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 11 of Mr. McClelland (Edmonton Southwest), seconded by Mr. Harper (Simcoe Centre), -- That Bill C-91, in Clause 17, be amended by replacing lines 31 to 35, on page 8, with the following: ``(a) business planning services; and (b) management counselling and training, including seminars, conferences and meetings." The question was put on Motion No. 11 and it was negatived on the following division: YEAS: 37, NAYS: 198. (See list under Division No. 322) The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 14 of Mr. Rocheleau (Trois-Rivières), seconded by Mr. Laurin (Joliette), -- That Bill C- 91, in Clause 22, be amended by deleting lines 25 to 27, on page 10. The question was put on Motion No. 14 and it was negatived on the following division: YEAS: 49, NAYS: 186. (See list under Division No. 323) The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 15 of Mr. McClelland (Edmonton Southwest), seconded by Mr. Harper (Simcoe Centre), -- That Bill C-91, in Clause 22, be amended by replacing line 29, on page 10, with the following: ``any entity by any means, except an entity that is a trust company, insurance company or dealer in investments or securities;". The question was put on Motion No. 15 and it was negatived on the following division: YEAS: 37, NAYS: 198. (See list under Division No. 322) The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 19 of Mr. Rocheleau (Trois-Rivières), seconded by Mr. Laurin (Joliette), -- That Bill C- 91, in Clause 28, be amended by adding after line 29, on page 13, the following: ``(1.1) The yield of hybrid capital instruments issued by the Bank shall not be fixed according to the profits of the Bank." The question was put on Motion No. 19 and it was negatived on the following division: YEAS: 49, NAYS: 186. (See list under Division No. 323) The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 20 of Mr. Rocheleau (Trois-Rivières), seconded by Mr. Laurin (Joliette), -- That Bill C-91, in Clause 31, be amended (a) by replacing line 27, on page 14, with the following: ``parent of a director,"; and (b) by replacing line 29, on page 14, with the following: ``parent of a director, or (d) the father, the mother, the sister or the brother of the spouse of a director." The question was put on Motion No. 20 and it was agreed to on the following division: YEAS: 198, NAYS: 37. (See list under Division No. 319) The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 21 of Mr. McClelland (Edmonton Southwest), seconded by Mr. Harper (Simcoe Centre), -- That Bill C-91, in Clause 32, be amended by replacing lines 30 to 34, on page 14, and lines 1 to 29, on page 15, with the following: ``32. The Bank shall not grant any assistance, whether in the form of a loan, investment, guarantee, purchase or lease, to an applicant who is an interested person or, if the applicant is a firm or corporation, to a firm or corporation where a partner of the firm or a shareholder, director or officer of the corporation is an interested person." The question was put on Motion No. 21 and it was negatived on the following division: YEAS: 41, NAYS: 194. (See list under Division No. 324) The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 22 of Mr. McClelland (Edmonton Southwest), seconded by Mr. Harper (Simcoe Centre), -- That Bill C-91, in Clause 35, be amended by replacing lines 38 and 39, on page 15, with the following: ``35. (1) Five years after this Act comes into force, and every five years afterward, the". The question was put on Motion No. 22 and it was negatived on the following division:

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(Division--Vote N^o 325)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Ablonczy -- Althouse -- Asselin -- Bachand -- Bellehumeur -- Benoit -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Blaikie -- Bouchard -- Breitkreuz (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Bridgman -- Brien -- Brown (Calgary Southeast) -- Bélisle -- Caron -- Chrétien (Frontenac) -- Crête -- Cummins -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Daviault -- de Savoye -- Deshaies -- Dubé -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Epp -- Fillion -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Gagnon (Québec) -- Gauthier (Roberval) -- Godin -- Grey (Beaver River) -- Guay -- Guimond -- Hanger -- Harper (Calgary West) -- Harper (Simcoe Centre) -- Hart -- Hayes -- Hermanson -- Hill (Macleod) -- Hill (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Jacob -- Johnston -- Lalonde -- Landry -- Langlois -- Laurin -- Lavigne (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- Lebel -- Leblanc (Longueuil) -- Lefebvre -- Leroux (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Leroux (Shefford) -- Loubier -- Manning -- Marchand -- Mayfield -- McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) -- McLaughlin -- Mercier -- Meredith -- Mills (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Ménard -- Nunez -- Paré -- Penson -- Picard (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Pomerleau -- Ramsay -- Riis -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Schmidt -- Silye -- Solberg -- Speaker -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Tremblay (Rosemont) -- Venne -- White (Fraser Valley West) -- Williams -- 90

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Allmand -- Anawak -- Anderson -- Arseneault -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bellemare -- Bethel -- Bevilacqua -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Boudria -- Brushett -- Bryden -- Bélair -- Caccia -- Calder -- Campbell -- Catterall -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Clancy -- Cohen -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Cowling -- Culbert -- DeVillers -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Duhamel -- Dupuy -- Easter -- Eggleton -- English -- Fewchuk -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Flis -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine) -- Gallaway -- Gerrard -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray (Windsor West) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Harvard -- Hickey -- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Jordan -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- LeBlanc (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Lee -- Lincoln -- Loney -- MacAulay -- MacLaren -- MacLellan (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Sydneys) -- Maheu -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKinnon -- McLellan (Edmonton Northwest) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murphy -- Murray -- Nault -- O'Brien -- O'Reilly -- Paradis -- Patry -- Payne -- Peric -- Peters -- Peterson -- Phinney -- Pickard (Essex -- Kent) -- Pillitteri -- Proud -- Reed -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Ringuette-Maltais -- Robillard -- Rock -- Rompkey -- Scott (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Serré -- Sheridan -- Simmons -- Skoke -- St. Denis -- Stewart (Brant) -- Stewart (Northumberland) -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Thalheimer -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Verran -- Walker -- Wappel -- Wells -- Whelan -- Wood -- Young -- Zed -- 145

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Bernier (Gaspé) -- Bertrand -- Bélanger -- Canuel -- Debien -- Regan -- St-Laurent -- Tobin The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 23 of Mr. Rocheleau (Trois-Rivières), seconded by Mr. Laurin (Joliette), -- That Bill C-91, in Clause 36, be amended (a) by replacing line 28, on page 16, with the following: ``Tax Act;"; and (b) by replacing line 30, on page 16, with the following: ``whom the information relates; or (e) for the purposes of a committee of either House of Parliament." The question was put on Motion No. 23 and it was negatived on the following division: YEAS: 53, NAYS: 182. (See list under Division No. 321) The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 24 of Mr. Manley (Minister of Industry), seconded by Mr. Mills (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Industry), -- That Clause 37 of Bill C-91 be amended by substituting the following: ``Except with the consent in writing of the Bank, a person must not in any prospectus or advertisement, or for any other business purpose, use the name of the Bank, the names ``B.D. Canada", ``Federal Business Development Bank" or ``Industrial Development Bank" or the initials ``B.D.B.C." or ``F.B.D.B.", in English, or the names ``Banque fédérale de développement", ``Banque d'expansion industrielle" or ``B.D. Canada" or the initials ``B.D.C." or ``B.F.D.", in French." The question was put on Motion No. 24 and it was agreed to on the following division:

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(Division--Vote N^o 326)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Allmand -- Althouse -- Anawak -- Anderson -- Arseneault -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bellemare -- Bethel -- Bevilacqua -- Blaikie -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Boudria -- Brushett -- Bryden -- Bélair -- Caccia -- Calder -- Campbell -- Catterall -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Clancy -- Cohen -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Cowling -- Culbert -- DeVillers -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Duhamel -- Dupuy -- Easter -- Eggleton -- English -- Fewchuk -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Flis -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la- -- Gallaway -- Gerrard -- Godfrey -- Madeleine) -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray (Windsor West) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Harvard -- Hickey -- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Jordan -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- LeBlanc (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Lee -- Lincoln -- Loney -- MacAulay -- MacLaren -- MacLellan (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The Sydneys) -- Maheu -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKinnon -- McLaughlin -- McLellan (Edmonton Northwest) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murphy -- Murray -- Nault -- O'Brien -- O'Reilly -- Paradis -- Patry -- Payne -- Peric -- Peters -- Peterson -- Phinney -- Pickard (Essex -- Kent) -- Pillitteri -- Proud -- Reed -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Riis -- Ringuette-Maltais -- Robillard -- Rock -- Rompkey -- Scott (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Serré -- Sheridan -- Simmons -- Skoke -- St. Denis -- Stewart (Brant) -- Stewart (Northumberland) -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Thalheimer -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Verran -- Walker -- Wappel -- Wells -- Whelan -- Wood -- Young -- Zed -- 149

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Ablonczy -- Asselin -- Bachand -- Bellehumeur -- Benoit -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Bouchard -- Breitkreuz (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Bridgman -- Brien -- Brown (Calgary Southeast) -- Bélisle -- Caron -- Chrétien (Frontenac) -- Crête -- Cummins -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Daviault -- de Savoye -- Deshaies -- Dubé -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Epp -- Fillion -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Gagnon (Québec) -- Gauthier (Roberval) -- Godin -- Grey (Beaver River) -- Guay -- Guimond -- Hanger -- Harper (Calgary West) -- Harper (Simcoe Centre) -- Hart -- Hayes -- Hermanson -- Hill (Macleod) -- Hill (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Jacob -- Johnston -- Lalonde -- Landry -- Langlois -- Laurin -- Lavigne (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- Lebel -- Leblanc (Longueuil) -- Lefebvre -- Leroux (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Leroux (Shefford) -- Loubier -- Manning -- Marchand -- Mayfield -- McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) -- Mercier -- Meredith -- Mills (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Ménard -- Nunez -- Paré -- Penson -- Picard (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Pomerleau -- Ramsay -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Schmidt -- Silye -- Solberg -- Speaker -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Tremblay (Rosemont) -- Venne -- White (Fraser Valley West) -- Williams -- 86

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Bernier (Gaspé) -- Bertrand -- Bélanger -- Canuel -- Debien -- Regan -- St-Laurent -- Tobin The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 25 of Mr. McClelland (Edmonton Southwest), seconded by Mr. Harper (Simcoe Centre), -- That Bill C-91 be amended by adding after line 5, on page 17, the following new Clause: La Chambre procède au vote par appel nominal différé sur la motion no 25 de M. McClelland (Edmonton-Sud-Ouest), appuyé par M. Harper (Simcoe-Centre), -- Qu'on modifie le projet de loi C-91, par adjonction, après la ligne 6, page 17, du nouvel article suivant: ``39. The Governor in Council may, by regulation, define ``hybrid capital instrument''.'' «39. Le gouverneur en conseil peut, par règlement, définir «instrument hybride de capital».» The question was put on Motion No. 25 and it was agreed to on the following division: La motion no 25, mise aux voix, est adoptée par le vote suivant:

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(Division--Vote N^o 327)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Ablonczy -- Adams -- Alcock -- Allmand -- Althouse -- Anawak -- Anderson -- Arseneault -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bellemare -- Benoit -- Bethel -- Bevilacqua -- Blaikie -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Boudria -- Breitkreuz (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Bridgman -- Brown (Calgary Southeast) -- Brushett -- Bryden -- Bélair -- Caccia -- Calder -- Campbell -- Catterall -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Clancy -- Cohen -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Cowling -- Culbert -- Cummins -- DeVillers -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Duhamel -- Dupuy -- Easter -- Eggleton -- English -- Epp -- Fewchuk -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Flis -- Fontana -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine) -- Gallaway -- Gerrard -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray (Windsor West) -- Grey (Beaver River) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Hanger -- Harb -- Harper (Calgary West) -- Harper (Simcoe Centre) -- Hart -- Harvard -- Hayes -- Hermanson -- Hickey -- Hill (Macleod) -- Hill (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Johnston -- Jordan -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- LeBlanc (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Lee -- Lincoln -- Loney -- MacAulay -- MacLaren -- MacLellan (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The Sydneys) -- Maheu -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Manning -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- Mayfield -- McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKinnon -- McLaughlin -- McLellan (Edmonton Northwest) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Meredith -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Mills (Red Deer) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Morrison -- Murphy -- Murray -- Nault -- O'Brien -- O'Reilly -- Paradis -- Patry -- Payne -- Penson -- Peric -- Peters -- Peterson -- Phinney -- Pickard (Essex -- Kent) -- Pillitteri -- Proud -- Ramsay -- Reed -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Riis -- Ringuette-Maltais -- Robillard -- Rock -- Rompkey -- Schmidt -- Scott (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Serré -- Sheridan -- Silye -- Simmons -- Skoke -- Solberg -- Speaker -- St. Denis -- Stewart (Brant) -- Stewart (Northumberland) -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Thalheimer -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Verran -- Walker -- Wappel -- Wells -- Whelan -- White (Fraser Valley West) -- Williams -- Wood -- Young -- Zed -- 186

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Asselin -- Bachand -- Bellehumeur -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Bouchard -- Brien -- Bélisle -- Caron -- Chrétien (Frontenac) -- Crête -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Daviault -- de Savoye -- Deshaies -- Dubé -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Fillion -- Gagnon (Québec) -- Gauthier (Roberval) -- Godin -- Guay -- Guimond -- Jacob -- Lalonde -- Landry -- Langlois -- Laurin -- Lavigne (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- Lebel -- Leblanc (Longueuil) -- Lefebvre -- Leroux (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Leroux (Shefford) -- Loubier -- Marchand -- Mercier -- Ménard -- Nunez -- Paré -- Picard (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Pomerleau -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Tremblay (Rosemont) -- Venne -- 49

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Bernier (Gaspé) -- Bertrand -- Bélanger -- Canuel -- Debien -- Regan -- St-Laurent -- Tobin The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 16 of Mr. McClelland (Edmonton Southwest), seconded by Mr. Schmidt (Okanagan Centre), -- That Bill C-91, in Clause 23, be amended by replacing lines 40 to 42, on page 10, with the following: ``shares with a par value of $100 each, but the paid-in capital of the Bank,". The question was put on Motion No. 16 and it was negatived on the following division:

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(Division--Vote N^o 328)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Ablonczy -- Asselin -- Bachand -- Bellehumeur -- Benoit -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Bouchard -- Breitkreuz (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Bridgman -- Brien -- Brown (Calgary Southeast) -- Bélisle -- Caron -- Chrétien (Frontenac) -- Crête -- Cummins -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Daviault -- de Savoye -- Deshaies -- Dubé -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Epp -- Fillion -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Gagnon (Québec) -- Gauthier (Roberval) -- Godin -- Grey (Beaver River) -- Guay -- Guimond -- Hanger -- Harper (Calgary West) -- Harper (Simcoe Centre) -- Hart -- Hayes -- Hermanson -- Hill (Macleod) -- Hill (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Jacob -- Johnston -- Lalonde -- Landry -- Langlois -- Laurin -- Lavigne (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- Lebel -- Leblanc (Longueuil) -- Lefebvre -- Leroux (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Leroux (Shefford) -- Loubier -- Manning -- Marchand -- Mayfield -- McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) -- Mercier -- Meredith -- Mills (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Ménard -- Nunez -- Paré -- Penson -- Picard (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Pomerleau -- Ramsay -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Schmidt -- Silye -- Solberg -- Speaker -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Tremblay (Rosemont) -- Venne -- White (Fraser Valley West) -- Williams -- 86

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Allmand -- Althouse -- Anawak -- Anderson -- Arseneault -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bellemare -- Bethel -- Bevilacqua -- Blaikie -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Boudria -- Brushett -- Bryden -- Bélair -- Caccia -- Calder -- Campbell -- Catterall -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Clancy -- Cohen -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Cowling -- Culbert -- DeVillers -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Duhamel -- Dupuy -- Easter -- Eggleton -- English -- Fewchuk -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Flis -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon (Bonaventure -- Îles-de- -- Gallaway -- Gerrard -- Godfrey -- la-Madeleine) -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray (Windsor West) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Harvard -- Hickey -- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Jordan -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- LeBlanc (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Lee -- Lincoln -- Loney -- MacAulay -- MacLaren -- MacLellan (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The Sydneys) -- Maheu -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKinnon -- McLaughlin -- McLellan (Edmonton Northwest) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murphy -- Murray -- Nault -- O'Brien -- O'Reilly -- Paradis -- Patry -- Payne -- Peric -- Peters -- Peterson -- Phinney -- Pickard (Essex -- Kent) -- Pillitteri -- Proud -- Reed -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Riis -- Ringuette-Maltais -- Robillard -- Rock -- Rompkey -- Scott (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Serré -- Sheridan -- Simmons -- Skoke -- St. Denis -- Stewart (Brant) -- Stewart (Northumberland) -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Thalheimer -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Verran -- Walker -- Wappel -- Wells -- Whelan -- Wood -- Young -- Zed -- 149

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Bernier (Gaspé) -- Bertrand -- Bélanger -- Canuel -- Debien -- Regan -- St-Laurent -- Tobin Accordingly, Motion No. 17 was also negatived on the same division. The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 18 of Mr. McClelland (Edmonton Southwest), seconded by Mr. Schmidt (Okanagan Centre), -- That Bill C-91, in Clause 27, be amended by replacing lines 28 to 42, on page 12, and lines 1 to 23, on page 13, with the following: ``(a) authorizing the issue of shares in one or more series and authorizing the Board to fix, by resolution, the maximum number of shares in each series and to determine the designation, rights, privileges, restrictions and conditions attaching to the shares of each series, subject to any limitation set out in the by-law; (b) changing authorized shares without par value, whether issued or not, into shares with a par value and changing authorized shares with a par value, whether issued or not, into shares without par value; and (c) consolidating or subdividing shares." The question was put on Motion No. 18 and it was negatived on the following division: YEAS: 86, NAYS: 149. (See list under Division No. 328) Mr. Manley (Minister of Industry), seconded by Mr. Gagliano (Secretary of State (Parliamentary Affairs) and Deputy Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), moved, -- That Bill C-91, An Act to continue the Federal Business Development Bank under the name Business Development Bank of Canada, as amended, be concurred in at report stage, with further amendments, and read a second time. The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division: YEAS: 145, NAYS: 90. (See list under Division No. 320) Accordingly, the Bill, as amended, was concurred in at report stage, with further amendments, read the second time and ordered for a third reading at the next sitting of the House. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Pursuant to Standing Order 45(5)(a), the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the motion of Mr. Dingwall (Minister of Public Works and Government Services), seconded by Mr. Rock (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada), -- That Bill C-82, An Act to amend the Royal Canadian Mint Act, be now read a third time and do pass. The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division: YEAS: 145, NAYS: 90. (See list under Division No. 320) Accordingly, the Bill was read the third time and passed. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Pursuant to Standing Order 45(5)(a), the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded divisions at report stage of Bill C-65, An Act to reorganize and dissolve certain federal agencies, as reported by the Standing Committee on Government Operations with amendments. The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 1 of Mr. Rocheleau (Trois-Rivières), seconded by Mr. Marchand (Québec-Est), -- That Bill C-65, in Clause 2, be amended by replacing line 14, on page 1, with the following: ``recommendation of the Minister, following consultation with the Lieutenant Governor of each province in Atlantic Canada and with the approval of the standing committee of the House of Commons that normally considers matters relating to industry, to hold of-". The question was put on Motion No. 1 and it was negatived on the following division: YEAS: 49, NAYS: 186. (See list under Division No. 323) Accordingly, Motions Nos. 3 to 7, 9, 12, 14, 15 and 16 were also negatived on the same division. The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 13 of Mr. Bellemare (Carleton -- Gloucester), seconded by Mr. Grose (Oshawa), -- That Bill C-65, in Clause 54, be amended by replacing lines 22 to 25, on page 14, with the following: ``(c) one from a municipality in Ontario, other than the city of Ottawa, wholly or partly within the National Capital Region; (d) one from a municipality in Quebec, other than the city of Hull, wholly or partly within the National Capital Region; and''. The question was put on Motion No. 13 and it was agreed to on the following division: YEAS: 198, NAYS: 37. (See list under Division No. 319) The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 2 of Mr. Epp (Elk Island), seconded by Mr. Forseth (New Westminster -- Burnaby), -- That Bill C-65, in Clause 4, be amended by replacing lines 13 and 14, on page 2, with the following: The question was put on Motion No. 2 and it was negatived on the following division: YEAS: 37, NAYS: 198. (See list under Division No. 322) The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 8 of Mr. Epp (Elk Island), seconded by Mr. Silye (Calgary Centre), -- That Bill C-65, in Clause 26, be amended by replacing lines 1 to 3, on page 8, with the following: The question was put on Motion No. 8 and it was negatived on the following division: YEAS: 86, NAYS: 149. (See list under Division No. 328) The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 10 of Mr. Epp (Elk Island), seconded by Mr. Silye (Calgary Centre), -- That Bill C-65, in Clause 49, be amended by replacing lines 10 and 11, on page 13, with the following: ``49. Subsection 9(1) of the Act is replaced by the following: ``9. (1) The Minister shall establish a board to be known as the National Archives of Canada Advisory Board, consisting of the Archivist, the National Librarian, the Director of the Canadian Museum of Civilization and not more than seven other members appointed, from among persons who are experienced in archival matters, by a committee of the House of Commons composed of two members from the government party and three members from opposition parties."" The question was put on Motion No. 10 and it was negatived on the following division: YEAS: 86, NAYS: 149. (See list under Division No. 328) Accordingly, Motion No. 11 was also negatived on the same division. Mr. Massé (President of the Queen's Privy Council for Canada and Minister of Intergovernmental Affairs and Minister responsible for Public Service Renewal), seconded by Mr. Gagliano (Secretary of State (Parliamentary Affairs) and Deputy Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), moved, -- That Bill C-65, An Act to reorganize and dissolve certain federal agencies, as amended, be concurred in at report stage, with a further amendment. The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division: YEAS: 149, NAYS: 86. (See list under Division No. 326) Accordingly, the Bill, as amended, was concurred in at report stage, with a further amendment, and ordered for a third reading at the next sitting of the House. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Pursuant to Order made earlier today, the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the motion of Mr. Axworthy (Minister of Human Resources Development), seconded by Mrs. Finestone (Secretary of State (Multiculturalism) (Status of Women)), -- That Bill C-54, An Act to amend the Old Age Security Act, the Canada Pension Plan, the Children's Special Allowances Act and the Unemployment Insurance Act, be now read a third time and do pass. The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division: YEAS: 149, NAYS: 86. (See list under Division No. 326) Accordingly, the Bill was read the third time and passed. MESSAGES FROM THE SENATE Messages were received from the Senate as follows: -- ORDERED: That a Message be sent to the House of Commons to acquaint that House that the Senate has passed Bill C-37, An Act to amend the Young Offenders Act and the Criminal Code, without amendment. -- ORDERED: That a Message be sent to the House of Commons to acquaint that House that the Senate has passed Bill C-67, An Act to establish the Veterans Review and Appeal Board, to amend the Pension Act, to make consequential amendments to other Acts and to repeal the Veterans Appeal Board Act, without amendment. -- ORDERED: That a Message be sent to the House of Commons to acquaint that House that the Senate has passed Bill C-76, An Act to implement certain provisions of the budget tabled in Parliament on February 27, 1995, without amendment. RETURNS AND REPORTS DEPOSITED WITH THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE Pursuant to Standing Order 32(1), papers deposited with the Clerk of the House were laid upon the Table as follows: -- by Mr. Dingwall (Minister of Public Works and Government Services) -- Report of the Canada Post Corporation, together with the Auditor General's report, for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1995, pursuant to section 150(1) of the Financial Administration Act, Chapter F-11, Revised Statutes of Canada, 1985. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-351-20A. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Government Operations) -- by Mr. Dingwall (Minister of Public Works and Government Services) -- Report of Defence Construction (1951) Limited, together with the Auditor General's Report, for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1995, pursuant to subsection 150(1) of the Financial Administration Act, Chapter F-11, Revised Statutes of Canada, 1985. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-351-120A. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Government Operations) -- by Mr. Dingwall (Minister of Public Works and Government Services) -- Report of Queens Quay West Land Corporation, together with the Auditors' Report, for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1995, pursuant to subsection 150(1) of the Financial Administration Act, Chapter F-11, Revised Statutes of Canada, 1985. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-351-607B. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Government Operations) -- by Mr. Dingwall (Minister of Public Works and Government Services) -- Report of Canada Post Corporation for the period ended March 31, 1995, pursuant to subsection 72(2) of the Privacy Act, Chapter P-21, Revised Statutes of Canada, 1985. -- Sessional Paper No. 8561-351-650A. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs) -- by Mr. Dingwall (Minister of Public Works and Government Services) -- Summaries of the Corporate Plan and of the Operating and Capital Budgets for the period April 1, 1995 to June 30, 1995 of the Queens Quay West Land Corporation, pursuant to subsection 125(4) of the Financial Administration Act, Chapter F-11, Revised Statutes of Canada, 1985. -- Sessional Paper No. 8562-351-838B. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Government Operations) -- by Mr. (Dingwall (Minister of Public Works and Government Services) -- Amendment to the Corporate Plan for 1993-94 to 1997-98 and the Capital Budget for 1993-94 of the Canada Post Corporation, pursuant to subsection 125(4) of the Financial Administration Act, Chapter F-11, Revised Statutes of Canada, 1985. -- Sessional Paper No. 8562-351-841A. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Government Operations) -- by Mr. Dingwall (Minister of Public Works and Government Services) -- Summaries of the Corporate Plan for 1995-96 to 1999-2000 and the Capital Budget for 1995-96 of the Canada Post Corporation, pursuant to subsection 125(4) of the Financial Administration Act, Chapter F-11, Revised Statutes of Canada, 1985. -- Sessional Paper No. 8562-351-841B. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Government Operations) -- by Mr. Eggleton (President of the Treasury Board) -- Reports of the Treasury Board of Canada Secretariat for the period ended March 31, 1995, pursuant to subsections 72(2) of the Access to Information Act, Chapter A-1, and the Privacy Act, Chapter P-21, Revised Statutes of Canada, 1985. -- Sessional Paper No. 8561-351-583B. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs) -- by Mr. Manley (Minister of Industry) -- Report of the Federal Business Development Bank, together with the Auditors' Report, for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1995, pursuant to subsection 150(1) of the Financial Administration Act, Chapter F-11, Revised Statutes of Canada, 1985. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-351-162B. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Industry) -- by Ms. Marleau (Minister of Health) -- Reports of the Hazardous Materials Information Review Commission for the period ended March 31, 1995, pursuant to subsections 72(2) of the Access to Information Act, Chapter A-1, and the Privacy Act, Chapter P-21, Revised Statutes of Canada, 1985. -- Sessional Paper

No. 8561-351-554A. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs)

-- by Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance) -- Report of the Canadian International Trade Tribunal entitled ``Request for Tariff Relief by Woods Canada Limited regarding certain printed cotton fabrics", dated June 8, 1995, pursuant to section 42 of the Canadian International Trade Tribunal Act, Chapter 47 (4th Supp.), Revised Statutes of Canada, 1985. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-351-572D. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Finance) PETITIONS FILED WITH THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were filed as follows:

-- by Ms. Skoke (Central Nova), one concerning gun control (No. 3513688) and one concerning sentences in the Criminal Code (No. 3513689). ADJOURNMENT At 12:25 a.m., pursuant to Order made Monday, June 12, 1995, the Speaker adjourned the House until later today at 10:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).