Journals No. 122 - February 4, 1997 (35-2) - House of Commons of Canada

The Speaker informed the House that a vacancy had occurred in the representation in the House of Commons, for the Electoral District of Jonquière, in the Province of Québec, by reason of the death of Mr. André Caron, and that, pursuant to subsection 28(1) of the Parliament of Canada Act, the Speaker had addressed, on Monday, February 3, 1997, his warrant to the Chief Electoral Officer for the issue of a writ for the election of a member to fill the vacancy.

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Zed (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, — Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to the following petitions:

No. 352-1328 concerning sexual orientation. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-352-45P;
No. 352-1329 concerning profits from crime. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-352-97K;
No. 352-1332 concerning the Federal Public Service. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-352-139;
Nos. 352-1333 and 352-1344 concerning impaired driving. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-352-73O;
No. 352-1334 concerning corporal punishment. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-352-49E;
Nos. 352-1348, 352-1353 and 352-1355 concerning the highway system. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-352-137A;
Nos. 352-1349 and 352-1354 concerning taxes on books. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-352-129C;
Nos. 352-1350 and 352-1356 concerning the Young Offenders Act. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-352-25O;
No. 352-1358 concerning the sexual abuse of children. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-352-83A;
No. 352-1364 concerning the income tax system. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-352-28DD.

Pursuant to Standing Order 34(1), Mr. Speller (Haldimand–Norfolk) presented the report of the Canadian branch of the Commonwealth Parliamentary Association (CPA) which visited Australia from November 16 to 28, 1996. — Sessional Paper No. 8565-352-53E.

Mr. Zed (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), from the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs, presented the 50th Report of the Committee, which was as follows:

The Committee recommends, pursuant to Standing Orders 104 and 114, the following changes in membership of Standing Committees:

Finance

Pomerleau for Rocheleau

Transport

Crête for Caron

The Committee recommends, pursuant to Standing Orders 104 and 114, that the following Member be added to the list of Associate Members of the Standing Committee:

Finance

Rocheleau

The Committee further recommends, that where a Member is appointed as permanent member to a Committee in accordance with this report and to which he was previously appointed Associate Member, that the name of the Member be struck from the list of Associate Members of the said Committee.

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings and Evidence (Issue No. 3, which includes this Report) was tabled.

By unanimous consent, it was ordered, — That the 50th Report of the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs, presented earlier today, be concurred in.

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were presented as follows:

by Mr. Patry (Pierrefonds–Dollard), one concerning national unity (No. 352-1563);
by Mrs. Barnes (London West), two concerning the highway system (Nos. 352-1564 and 352-1565) and one concerning taxes on books (No. 352-1566);
by Mr. Szabo (Mississauga South), one concerning police and firefighters’ death benefits (No. 352-1567), one concerning the income tax system (No. 352-1568) and one concerning alcoholic beverages (No. 352-1569).

The Order was read for the consideration at report stage of Bill C–23, An Act to establish the Canadian Nuclear Safety Commission and to make consequential amendments to other Acts, as reported by the Standing Committee on Natural Resources with amendments.

Pursuant to Standing Order 76.1 (5), the Speaker selected and grouped for debate the following motions:

Group No. 1 — Motion No. 1.

Group No. 2 — Motions Nos. 3 and 6.

Group No. 3 — Motions Nos. 4 and 5.

Group No. 4 — Motions Nos. 7 and 8.

Group No. 5 — Motion No. 9.

Group No. 6 — Motions Nos. 10 to 15.

Group No. 7 — Motions Nos. 16 and 17.

Group No. 8 — Motions Nos. 18 and 19.

Group No. 1

Mr. Canuel (Matapédia–Matane), seconded by Mr. Deshaies (Abitibi), moved Motion No. 1, — That Bill C–23, in Clause 2, be amended by replacing lines 5 and 6 on page 2 with the following:

“‘Minister’ means the Minister of the Environment or such member of the Queen’s”

Debate arose on the motion in Group No. 1.

The question was put on Motion No. 1 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred.

Group No. 2

Mr. Ringma (Nanaimo–Cowichan), seconded by Mr. Stinson (Okanagan–Shuswap), moved Motion No. 3, — That Bill C–23, in Clause 3, be amended by

replacing lines 15 and 16 on page 4 with the following:
“substances, prescribed equipment and prescribed information;”;
replacing line 22 on page 4 with the following:
“weapons and nuclear explosive devices; and”;
adding after line 22 on page 4 the following:
“(c) the education of the public on the health, safety and environmental effects associated with the development, production or use of nuclear energy in Canada.”

Mr. Ringma (Nanaimo–Cowichan), seconded by Mr. Stinson (Okanagan–Shuswap), moved Motion No. 6, — That Bill C–23, in Clause 9, be amended by

replacing lines 23 to 28 on page 5 with the following:
“(ii) prevent unreasonable risk to national security associated with the development, production, possession or use,

(iii) achieve conformity with measures of control and international obligations to which Canada has agreed,”;
adding after line 36 on page 5 the following:
“(c) to inform the public as to the health, safety and environmental effects associated with nuclear activities in Canada; and“

Debate arose on the motions in Group No. 2.

The question was put on Motion No. 3 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred.

The question was put on Motion No. 6 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred.

Group No. 3

Mr. Solomon (Regina–Lumsden), seconded by Mr. Nunez (Bourassa), moved Motion No. 4, — That Bill C–23 be amended by deleting Clause 6.

Mr. Solomon (Regina–Lumsden), seconded by Mr. Nunez (Bourassa), moved Motion No. 5, — That Bill C–23 be amended by deleting Clause 7.

Debate arose on the motions in Group No. 3.

The question was put on Motion No. 4 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred.

The question was put on Motion No. 5 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred.

Group No. 4

Mr. Canuel (Matapédia–Matane), seconded by Mr. Deshaies (Abitibi), moved Motion No. 7, — That Bill C–23, in Clause 10, be amended by replacing line 2 on page 6 with the following:

“more than seven permanent members, among whom there shall be at least one representative of an organization generally recognized for at least five years for its work in environmental protection and a representative of the nuclear industry, to be”

Mr. Canuel (Matapédia–Matane), seconded by Mr. Deshaies (Abitibi), moved Motion No. 8, — That Bill C–23, in Clause 10, be amended by replacing line 3 on page 6 with the following:

“appointed by the Governor in Council following approval by resolution of the Senate and the House of Commons.”

Debate arose on the motions in Group No. 4.

The question was put on Motion No. 7 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred.

The question was put on Motion No. 8 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred.

Group No. 5

Mr. Solomon (Regina–Lumsden), seconded by Mr. Nunez (Bourassa), moved Motion No. 9, — That Bill C–23, in Clause 33, be amended by replacing lines 15 to 17 on page 19 with the following:

“33.: While exercising any authority under the Act, an inspector shall make all reasonable efforts to be accompanied by a member of a health and safety committee or an environment committee whose sphere of activity is affected by the authority exercised by the inspector, and the inspector may also be accompanied by any other person chosen by the inspector.”

Debate arose on the motion in Group No. 5.

The question was put on Motion No. 9 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred.

Group No. 6

Mr. Canuel (Matapédia–Matane), seconded by Mr. Deshaies (Abitibi), moved Motion No. 10, — That Bill C–23, in Clause 44, be amended by

replacing lines 21 to 23 on page 27 with the following:
“44. (1) The Commission may, with the approval of the Governor in Council and subject to subsections (1.1) and (1.2), make regulations”; and
adding after line 25 on page 30 the following:
“(1.1) In making a regulation under subsection (1), the Commission shall have regard to the principle that persons subject to the regulation should not be required to bear costs that are unreasonable in comparison with the anticipated benefits.

(1.2) The Commission shall make no regulation under subsection (1) that, in its opinion, will require persons subject to the regulation to bear costs that are unreasonable in comparison with the anticipated benefits.”

Mr. Canuel (Matapédia–Matane), seconded by Mr. Deshaies (Abitibi), moved Motion No. 11, — That Bill C–23, in Clause 44, be amended by replacing lines 5 to 7 on page 29 with the following:

“(i) prescribing the fees that may be charged for the provision, by the Commission, of information, products and services, following consultation with any parties who have notified the Commission in writing of their desire to be consulted in this matter;”

Mr. Canuel (Matapédia–Matane), seconded by Mr. Deshaies (Abitibi), moved Motion No. 12, — That Bill C–23, in Clause 44, be amended by replacing lines 8 to 10 on page 29 with the following:

“(j) prescribing

(i) initial fees or the method of calculating the initial fees that may be charged for a licence or class of licence, and

(ii) after consultation with the licensees, the fees or the method of calculating the fees that may be charged for renewal of a licence or class of licence;”

Mr. Solomon (Regina–Lumsden), seconded by Mr. Nunez (Bourassa), moved Motion No. 13, — That Bill C–23, in Clause 44, be amended by deleting lines 15 to 19 on page 30.

Mr. Solomon (Regina–Lumsden), seconded by Mr. Nunez (Bourassa), moved Motion No. 14, — That Bill C–23, in Clause 44, be amended by replacing lines 14 to 17, on page 31 with the following:

“(5): The Governor in Council may, subject to affirmative resolution of the House of Commons, make regulations generally as the Governor in Council considers necessary for carrying out the purposes of this Act.”

Ms. McLellan (Minister of Natural Resources), seconded by Mrs. Cowling (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Natural Resources), moved Motion No. 15, — That Bill C–23, in Clause 44, be amended by adding after line 20 on page 32 the following:

“(12): A copy of each regulation that the Commission proposes to make under paragraphs (1)(i) or (1)(j) shall be published in the Canada Gazette and a reasonable opportunity shall be given to persons to make representations to the Commission with respect thereto.”

Debate arose on the motions in Group No. 6.

The question was put on Motion No. 10 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred.

The question was put on Motion No. 11 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred.

The question was put on Motion No. 12 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred.

The question was put on Motion No. 13 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred.

The question was put on Motion No. 14 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred.

The question was put on Motion No. 15 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred.

Group No. 7

Mr. Canuel (Matapédia–Matane), seconded by Mr. Deshaies (Abitibi), moved Motion No. 16, — That Bill C–23 be amended by adding after line 12 on page 36 the following new Clause:

“51.1.: No person shall be found guilty of an offence under this Act or a regulation made thereunder if the person establishes that he or she exercised all due diligence to prevent its commission.”

Ms. McLellan (Minister of Natural Resources), seconded by Mrs. Cowling (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Natural Resources), moved Motion No. 17, — That Bill C–23 be amended by adding after line 12 on page 36 the following:

“51.1.: A person shall not be found to have contravened any provision of this Act, other than section 50, if it is established that the person exercised all due diligence to prevent its commission.”

Debate arose on the motions in Group No. 7.

The question was put on Motion No. 16 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred.

Group No. 8

Mr. Canuel (Matapédia–Matane), seconded by Mr. Deshaies (Abitibi), moved Motion No. 18, — That Bill C–23, in Clause 72, be amended by replacing lines 33 to 37 on page 42 with the following:

“72.: The Commission shall, within four months after the end of each fiscal year, submit to the Minister a report of the activities of the Commission under this Act for that fiscal year, incorporating any comments received from any interested party regarding its internal management, operations and business practices and stating how such comments have affected the way it carries out its mandate, and the Minister shall cause the“

Mr. Canuel (Matapédia–Matane), seconded by Mr. Deshaies (Abitibi), moved Motion No. 19, — That Bill C–23, in Clause 72, be amended by replacing lines 33 to 40 on page 42 with the following:

“72.

The Commission shall, within four months after the end of each fiscal year,

(a): hold public hearings, in accordance with the prescribed rules of procedure, regarding its internal management, operations and business partners during the fiscal year; and
(b): submit to the Minister a report of the activities of the Commission under this Act, including the public hearings held under paragraph (a), for that fiscal year, and

the Minister shall cause the report to be laid before each House of Parliament on any of the first fifteen days on which that House is sitting after receiving it.”

Debate arose on the motions in Group No. 8.

The question was put on Motion No. 18 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred.

Pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded divisions at report stage of Bill C–23, An Act to establish the Canadian Nuclear Safety Commission and to make consequential amendments to other Acts, as reported by the Standing Committee on Natural Resources with amendments.

Pursuant to Standing Order 45, the recorded divisions were further deferred until later today at the expiry of the time provided for Government Orders.

The Order was read for the consideration at report stage of Bill C–53, An Act to amend the Prisons and Reformatories Act, as reported by the Standing Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs without amendment.

Mr. Peters (Secretary of State (International Financial Institutions)) for Mr. Gray (Solicitor General of Canada), seconded by Mrs. Stewart (Secretary of State (Latin America and Africa)), moved, — That the Bill be concurred in at report stage.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to.

Accordingly, the Bill was concurred in at report stage.

Pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(11), Mr. Peters (Secretary of State (International Financial Institutions)) for Mr. Gray (Solicitor General of Canada), seconded by Mrs. Stewart (Secretary of State (Latin America and Africa)), moved, — That the Bill be now read a third time and do pass.

Debate arose thereon.

The question was put on the motion and, pursuant to Standing Order 45, the recorded division was deferred until later today, at the expiry of the time provided for Government Orders.

The Order was read for the second reading and reference to the Standing Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs of Bill C–46, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (production of records in sexual offence proceedings).

Mr. Rock (Minister of Justice), seconded by Ms. Blondin-Andrew (Secretary of State (Training and Youth)), moved, — That the Bill be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs.

Debate arose thereon.

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Rock (Minister of Justice), seconded by Ms. Blondin-Andrew (Secretary of State (Training and Youth)), — That Bill C–46, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (production of records in sexual offence proceedings), be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs.

The debate continued.

By unanimous consent, Mr. Zed (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), seconded by Mr. Kirkby (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada)), moved, — That, the Standing Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs be the committee designated for the purposes of section 36 of An Act to amend the Criminal Code (mental disorder) and to amend the National Defence Act and the Young Offenders Act in consequence thereof (Chapter 43, Statutes of Canada, 1991);

And that the Standing Committee on Industry be the committee designated for the purposes of section 14 of the Patent Act Amendment Act 1992 (Chapter 2, Statutes of Canada, 1993).

By unanimous consent, Mr. Zed (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), seconded by Mr. Kirkby (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada)), moved, — That the Order of the House adopted December 12, 1996, concerning travel by the Standing Committee on Human Rights and the Status of Disabled Persons be amended by replacing the word “February” with the word “March”.

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Rock (Minister of Justice), seconded by Ms. Blondin-Andrew (Secretary of State (Training and Youth)), — That Bill C–46, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (production of records in sexual offence proceedings), be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs.

The debate continued.

At 5:30 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 45, the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded divisions at report stage and second reading of Bill C–60, An Act to establish the Canadian Food Inspection Agency and to repeal and amend other Acts as a consequence as reported by the Standing Committee on Agriculture and Agri-Food with amendments.

Group No. 3

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 1 of Mr. Chrétien (Frontenac), seconded by Mr. Landry (Lotbinière), — That Bill C–60, in the preamble, be amended by adding after line 21 on page 1 the following:

“And Whereas the Government of Canada promises to respect the legislative authority of the provinces;”

The question was put on Motion No. 1 and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division — Vote N^o 205)

Yeas — Pour

Members — Députés

Ablonczy — Asselin — Bachand — Benoit — Bergeron — Bernier (Gaspé) — Bernier (Mégantic–Compton–Stanstead) — Breitkreuz (Yorkton–Melville) — Canuel — Chatters — Chrétien (Frontenac) — Crête — Cummins — Dalphond-Guiral — Daviault — de Savoye — Dubé — Duceppe — Dumas — Duncan — Epp — Forseth — Frazer — Gagnon (Québec) — Gauthier — Godin — Grey (Beaver River) — Grubel — Guay — Guimond — Hanger — Harper (Simcoe Centre) — Hill (Macleod) — Hill (Prince George–Peace River) — Jacob — Johnston — Landry — Langlois — Laurin — Lavigne (Beauharnois–Salaberry) — Lebel — Leroux (Richmond–Wolfe) — Leroux (Shefford) — Loubier — Manning — Marchand — McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) — Ménard — Mercier — Meredith — Mills (Red Deer) — Nunez — Paré — Picard (Drummond) — Pomerleau — Ramsay — Rocheleau — Sauvageau — Schmidt — Solberg — Speaker — Stinson — Strahl — Thompson — Tremblay (Lac Saint-Jean) — Tremblay (Rimouski–Témiscouata) — Tremblay (Rosemont) — Venne — Williams --69

Nays — Contre

Members — Députés

Adams — Alcock — Allmand — Anderson — Arseneault — Assadourian — Augustine — Barnes — Beaumier — Bélair — Bélanger — Bellemare — Bethel — Bevilacqua — Bhaduria — Blaikie — Blondin-Andrew — Bodnar — Bonin — Brown (Oakville–Milton) — Brushett — Bryden — Byrne — Caccia — Campbell — Cannis — Catterall — Chamberlain — Chan — Chrétien (Saint-Maurice) — Clancy — Cohen — Collenette — Collins — Comuzzi — Copps — Cowling — Crawford — Culbert — Cullen — DeVillers — Dhaliwal — Dion — Discepola — Dromisky — Duhamel — Dupuy — Easter — Eggleton — English — Fewchuk — Finestone — Finlay — Flis — Fontana — Fry — Gaffney — Gagliano — Gagnon (Bonaventure–Îles-de-la-Madeleine) — Gallaway — Gerrard — Goodale — Graham — Grose — Guarnieri — Harb — Harper (Churchill) — Harvard — Hopkins — Hubbard — Ianno — Iftody — Irwin — Jackson — Jordan — Keyes — Kilger (Stormont–Dundas) — Kirkby — Knutson — Kraft Sloan — Lastewka — Lavigne (Verdun–Saint-Paul) — LeBlanc (Cape Breton Highlands–Canso) — Lee — Lincoln — Loney — MacAulay — MacDonald — MacLellan (Cape Breton–The Sydneys) — Malhi — Maloney — Manley — Marchi — Marleau — Massé — McCormick — McKinnon — McLaughlin — McLellan (Edmonton Northwest) — McTeague — McWhinney — Mills (Broadview–Greenwood) — Minna — Mitchell — Murphy — Murray — Nault — Nunziata — O’Brien (Labrador) — O’Brien (London–Middlesex) — O’Reilly — Pagtakhan — Parrish — Patry — Peric — Peters — Peterson — Pettigrew — Phinney — Pickard (Essex–Kent) — Pillitteri — Proud — Reed — Regan — Richardson — Rideout — Robichaud — Robillard — Robinson — Rock — Scott (Fredericton–York–Sunbury) — Serré — Shepherd — Sheridan — Simmons — Skoke — Solomon — Speller — St. Denis — Steckle — Stewart (Northumberland) — Szabo — Taylor — Telegdi — Thalheimer — Torsney — Ur — Valeri — Vanclief — Volpe — Walker — Wappel — Wells — Whelan — Wood — Young — Zed --157

Paired Members — Députés « Pairés »

Anawak — Bélisle — Bellehumeur — Boudria — Brien — Calder — Deshaies — Dingwall — Fillion — Godfrey — Hickey — Lalonde — Lefebvre — Mifflin — Murphy — St-Laurent

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 13 of Mr. Chrétien (Frontenac), seconded by Mr. Landry (Lotbinière), — That Bill C–60, in Clause 11, be amended by adding after line 27 on page 4 the following:

“(4.1): Notwithstanding subsection (4), where the Minister proposes to establish any policy or standard under that subsection, the Minister shall consult each province before establishing that policy or standard with a view to obtaining the agreement of the provinces to the proposed policy or standard.
(4.2): Where, after being consulted under subsection (4.1), a province advises the Minister that it disagrees with the proposed policy or standard and the Minister then establishes that policy or standard, the policy or standard shall not be applicable to the province where the province also advises the Minister that it does not wish that policy or standard to apply to the province.”

The question was put on Motion No. 13 and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division — Vote N^o 206)

Yeas — Pour

Members — Députés

Asselin — Bachand — Bergeron — Bernier (Gaspé) — Bernier (Mégantic–Compton–Stanstead) — Canuel — Chrétien (Frontenac) — Crête — Dalphond-Guiral — Daviault — de Savoye — Dubé — Duceppe — Dumas — Gagnon (Québec) — Gauthier — Godin — Guay — Guimond — Jacob — Landry — Langlois — Laurin — Lavigne (Beauharnois–Salaberry) — Lebel — Leroux (Richmond–Wolfe) — Leroux (Shefford) — Loubier — Marchand — Ménard — Mercier — Nunez — Paré — Picard (Drummond) — Pomerleau — Rocheleau — Sauvageau — Tremblay (Lac Saint-Jean) — Tremblay (Rimouski–Témiscouata) — Tremblay (Rosemont) — Venne --41

Nays — Contre

Members — Députés

Ablonczy — Adams — Alcock — Allmand — Anderson — Arseneault — Assadourian — Augustine — Barnes — Beaumier — Bélair — Bélanger — Bellemare — Benoit — Bethel — Bevilacqua — Bhaduria — Blaikie — Blondin-Andrew — Bodnar — Bonin — Breitkreuz (Yorkton–Melville) — Brown (Oakville–Milton) — Brushett — Bryden — Byrne — Caccia — Campbell — Cannis — Catterall — Chamberlain — Chan — Chatters — Chrétien (Saint-Maurice) — Clancy — Cohen — Collenette — Collins — Comuzzi — Copps — Cowling — Crawford — Culbert — Cullen — Cummins — DeVillers — Dhaliwal — Dion — Discepola — Dromisky — Duhamel — Duncan — Dupuy — Easter — Eggleton — English — Epp — Fewchuk — Finestone — Finlay — Flis — Fontana — Forseth — Frazer — Fry — Gaffney — Gagliano — Gagnon (Bonaventure–Îles-de-la-Madeleine) — Gallaway — Gerrard — Goodale — Graham — Grey (Beaver River) — Grose — Grubel — Guarnieri — Hanger — Harb — Harper (Churchill) — Harper (Simcoe Centre) — Harvard — Hill (Macleod) — Hill (Prince George–Peace River) — Hopkins — Hubbard — Ianno — Iftody — Irwin — Jackson — Johnston — Jordan — Keyes — Kilger (Stormont–Dundas) — Kirkby — Knutson — Kraft Sloan — Lastewka — Lavigne (Verdun–Saint-Paul) — LeBlanc (Cape Breton Highlands–Canso) — Lee — Lincoln — Loney — MacAulay — MacDonald — MacLellan (Cape Breton–The Sydneys) — Malhi — Maloney — Manley — Manning — Marchi — Marleau — Massé — McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) — McCormick — McKinnon — McLaughlin — McLellan (Edmonton Northwest) — McTeague — McWhinney — Meredith — Mills (Broadview–Greenwood) — Mills (Red Deer) — Minna — Mitchell — Murphy — Murray — Nault — Nunziata — O’Brien (Labrador) — O’Brien (London–Middlesex) — O’Reilly — Pagtakhan — Parrish — Patry — Peric — Peters — Peterson — Pettigrew — Phinney — Pickard (Essex–Kent) — Pillitteri — Proud — Ramsay — Reed — Regan — Richardson — Rideout — Robichaud — Robillard — Robinson — Rock — Schmidt — Scott (Fredericton–York–Sunbury) — Serré — Shepherd — Sheridan — Simmons — Skoke — Solberg — Solomon — Speaker — Speller — St. Denis — Steckle — Stewart (Northumberland) — Stinson — Strahl — Szabo — Taylor — Telegdi — Thalheimer — Thompson — Torsney — Ur — Valeri — Vanclief — Volpe — Walker — Wappel — Wells — Whelan — Williams — Wood — Young — Zed --185

Paired Members — Députés « Pairés »

Anawak — Bélisle — Bellehumeur — Boudria — Brien — Calder — Deshaies — Dingwall — Fillion — Godfrey — Hickey — Lalonde — Lefebvre — Mifflin — Murphy — St-Laurent

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 22 of Mr. Chrétien (Frontenac), seconded by Mr. Landry (Lotbinière), — That Bill C–60, in Clause 20, be amended by replacing lines 28 to 30 on page 6 with the following:

“20.: The Minister may enter“

The question was put on Motion No. 22 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 41, NAYS: 185. (See list under Division No. 206)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 23 of Mr. Chrétien (Frontenac), seconded by Mr. Landry (Lotbinière), — That Bill C–60 be amended by adding after line 35 on page 6 the following new Clause:

“20.1.: No agreement entered into by the Minister under section 20 shall infringe upon any power that the province may exercise over the inspection of food or a related matter pursuant to section 92 of the Constitution Act, 1867.”

The question was put on Motion No. 23 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 41, NAYS: 185. (See list under Division No. 206)

Group No. 4

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 5 of Mr. Chrétien (Frontenac), seconded by Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe–Bagot), — That Bill C–60, in Clause 9, be amended by replacing lines 4 to 6 on page 3 with the following:

“9.

(1)

The Governor in Council shall, by order, direct that the head office of the Agency be in the location in Canada recommended by the committee referred to in section 9.1.

(2)

The Governor in Council may, by order, direct that the head office of the agency be in a location other than the one recommended pursuant to section 9.1 but shall not make any such order unless

(a): the Governor in Council has provided the committee referred to in section 9.2 with all the reasons for such a change; and
(b): the committee has approved the change.

9.1.

Such committee of the House of Commons as is designated or established to consider agricultural matters shall recommend, for the purposes of section 9, the location in Canada of the head office of the Agency.

9.2.

Such committee of the House of Commons as is designated or established to consider agricultural matters shall, after studying the reasons for the change provided to the committee pursuant to paragraph 9(2)(a), either approve or refuse to approve, for the purposes of subsection 9(2), any change in the location of the head office of the Agency.”

The question was put on Motion No. 5 and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division — Vote N^o 207)

Yeas — Pour

Members — Députés

Asselin — Bachand — Bergeron — Bernier (Gaspé) — Bernier (Mégantic–Compton–Stanstead) — Blaikie — Canuel — Chrétien (Frontenac) — Crête — Dalphond-Guiral — Daviault — de Savoye — Dubé — Duceppe — Dumas — Gagnon (Québec) — Gauthier — Godin — Guay — Guimond — Jacob — Landry — Langlois — Laurin — Lavigne (Beauharnois–Salaberry) — Lebel — Leroux (Richmond–Wolfe) — Leroux (Shefford) — Loubier — Marchand — McLaughlin — Ménard — Mercier — Nunez — Paré — Picard (Drummond) — Pomerleau — Robinson — Rocheleau — Sauvageau — Solomon — Taylor — Tremblay (Lac Saint-Jean) — Tremblay (Rimouski–Témiscouata) — Tremblay (Rosemont) — Venne --46

Nays — Contre

Members — Députés

Ablonczy — Adams — Alcock — Allmand — Anderson — Arseneault — Assadourian — Augustine — Barnes — Beaumier — Bélair — Bélanger — Bellemare — Benoit — Bethel — Bevilacqua — Bhaduria — Blondin-Andrew — Bodnar — Bonin — Breitkreuz (Yorkton–Melville) — Brown (Oakville–Milton) — Brushett — Bryden — Byrne — Caccia — Campbell — Cannis — Catterall — Chamberlain — Chan — Chatters — Chrétien (Saint-Maurice) — Clancy — Cohen — Collenette — Collins — Comuzzi — Copps — Cowling — Crawford — Culbert — Cullen — Cummins — DeVillers — Dhaliwal — Dion — Discepola — Dromisky — Duhamel — Duncan — Dupuy — Easter — Eggleton — English — Epp — Fewchuk — Finestone — Finlay — Flis — Fontana — Forseth — Frazer — Fry — Gaffney — Gagliano — Gagnon (Bonaventure–Îles-de-la-Madeleine) — Gallaway — Gerrard — Goodale — Graham — Grey (Beaver River) — Grose — Grubel — Guarnieri — Hanger — Harb — Harper (Churchill) — Harper (Simcoe Centre) — Harvard — Hill (Macleod) — Hill (Prince George–Peace River) — Hopkins — Hubbard — Ianno — Iftody — Irwin — Jackson — Johnston — Jordan — Keyes — Kilger (Stormont–Dundas) — Kirkby — Knutson — Kraft Sloan — Lastewka — Lavigne (Verdun–Saint-Paul) — LeBlanc (Cape Breton Highlands–Canso) — Lee — Lincoln — Loney — MacAulay — MacDonald — MacLellan (Cape Breton–The Sydneys) — Malhi — Maloney — Manley — Manning — Marchi — Marleau — Massé — McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) — McCormick — McKinnon — McLellan (Edmonton Northwest) — McTeague — McWhinney — Meredith — Mills (Broadview–Greenwood) — Mills (Red Deer) — Minna — Mitchell — Murphy — Murray — Nault — Nunziata — O’Brien (Labrador) — O’Brien (London–Middlesex) — O’Reilly — Pagtakhan — Parrish — Patry — Peric — Peters — Peterson — Pettigrew — Phinney — Pickard (Essex–Kent) — Pillitteri — Proud — Ramsay — Reed — Regan — Richardson — Rideout — Robichaud — Robillard — Rock — Schmidt — Scott (Fredericton–York–Sunbury) — Serré — Shepherd — Sheridan — Simmons — Skoke — Solberg — Speaker — Speller — St. Denis — Steckle — Stewart (Northumberland) — Stinson — Strahl — Szabo — Telegdi — Thalheimer — Thompson — Torsney — Ur — Valeri — Vanclief — Volpe — Walker — Wappel — Wells — Whelan — Williams — Wood — Young — Zed --180

Paired Members — Députés « Pairés »

Anawak — Bélisle — Bellehumeur — Boudria — Brien — Calder — Deshaies — Dingwall — Fillion — Godfrey — Hickey — Lalonde — Lefebvre — Mifflin — Murphy — St-Laurent

Group No. 5

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 3 of Mr. Chrétien (Frontenac), seconded by Mr. Landry (Lotbinière), — That Bill C–60, in Clause 5, be amended by

replacing line 20 on page 2 with the following:
“5. (1) Subject to subsection (2), the Governor in Council shall appoint a”
adding after line 24 on page 2 the following:
“(2) The Governor in Council shall ensure that persons appointed to the positions referred to in subsection (1) have a comprehensive knowledge and a broad experience of the areas dealt with by the Agency.”

The question was put on Motion No. 3 and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division — Vote N^o 208)

Yeas — Pour

Members — Députés

Ablonczy — Asselin — Bachand — Benoit — Bergeron — Bernier (Gaspé) — Bernier (Mégantic–Compton–Stanstead) — Blaikie — Breitkreuz (Yorkton–Melville) — Canuel — Chatters — Chrétien (Frontenac) — Crête — Cummins — Dalphond-Guiral — Daviault — de Savoye — Dubé — Duceppe — Dumas — Duncan — Epp — Forseth — Frazer — Gagnon (Québec) — Gauthier — Godin — Grey (Beaver River) — Grubel — Guay — Guimond — Hanger — Harper (Simcoe Centre) — Hill (Macleod) — Hill (Prince George–Peace River) — Jacob — Johnston — Landry — Langlois — Laurin — Lavigne (Beauharnois–Salaberry) — Lebel — Leroux (Richmond–Wolfe) — Leroux (Shefford) — Loubier — Manning — Marchand — McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) — McLaughlin — Ménard — Mercier — Meredith — Mills (Red Deer) — Nunez — Nunziata — Paré — Picard (Drummond) — Pomerleau — Ramsay — Robinson — Rocheleau — Sauvageau — Schmidt — Solberg — Solomon — Speaker — Stinson — Strahl — Taylor — Thompson — Tremblay (Lac Saint-Jean) — Tremblay (Rimouski–Témiscouata) — Tremblay (Rosemont) — Venne — Williams --75

Nays — Contre

Members — Députés

Adams — Alcock — Allmand — Anderson — Arseneault — Assadourian — Augustine — Barnes — Beaumier — Bélair — Bélanger — Bellemare — Bethel — Bevilacqua — Bhaduria — Blondin-Andrew — Bodnar — Bonin — Brown (Oakville–Milton) — Brushett — Bryden — Byrne — Caccia — Campbell — Cannis — Catterall — Chamberlain — Chan — Chrétien (Saint-Maurice) — Clancy — Cohen — Collenette — Collins — Comuzzi — Copps — Cowling — Crawford — Culbert — Cullen — DeVillers — Dhaliwal — Dion — Discepola — Dromisky — Duhamel — Dupuy — Easter — Eggleton — English — Fewchuk — Finestone — Finlay — Flis — Fontana — Fry — Gaffney — Gagliano — Gagnon (Bonaventure–Îles-de-la-Madeleine) — Gallaway — Gerrard — Goodale — Graham — Grose — Guarnieri — Harb — Harper (Churchill) — Harvard — Hopkins — Hubbard — Ianno — Iftody — Irwin — Jackson — Jordan — Keyes — Kilger (Stormont–Dundas) — Kirkby — Knutson — Kraft Sloan — Lastewka — Lavigne (Verdun–Saint-Paul) — LeBlanc (Cape Breton Highlands–Canso) — Lee — Lincoln — Loney — MacAulay — MacDonald — MacLellan (Cape Breton–The Sydneys) — Malhi — Maloney — Manley — Marchi — Marleau — Massé — McCormick — McKinnon — McLellan (Edmonton Northwest) — McTeague — McWhinney — Mills (Broadview–Greenwood) — Minna — Mitchell — Murphy — Murray — Nault — O’Brien (Labrador) — O’Brien (London–Middlesex) — O’Reilly — Pagtakhan — Parrish — Patry — Peric — Peters — Peterson — Pettigrew — Phinney — Pickard (Essex–Kent) — Pillitteri — Proud — Reed — Regan — Richardson — Rideout — Robichaud — Robillard — Rock — Scott (Fredericton–York–Sunbury) — Serré — Shepherd — Sheridan — Simmons — Skoke — Speller — St. Denis — Steckle — Stewart (Northumberland) — Szabo — Telegdi — Thalheimer — Torsney — Ur — Valeri — Vanclief — Volpe — Walker — Wappel — Wells — Whelan — Wood — Young — Zed --151

Paired Members — Députés « Pairés »

Anawak — Bélisle — Bellehumeur — Boudria — Brien — Calder — Deshaies — Dingwall — Fillion — Godfrey — Hickey — Lalonde — Lefebvre — Mifflin — Murphy — St-Laurent

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 4 of Mr. Chrétien (Frontenac), seconded by Mr. Landry (Lotbinière), — That Bill C–60, in Clause 5, be amended by replacing line 24 on page 2 with the following:

“may be renewed for one further term.”

The question was put on Motion No. 4 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 41, NAYS: 185. (See list under Division No. 206)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 6 of Mr. Chrétien (Frontenac), seconded by Mr. Landry (Lotbinière), — That Bill C–60, in Clause 10, be amended by adding after line 11 on page 3 the following:

“(1.1): Notwithstanding subsection (1), no person may be appointed by the Minister to an advisory board unless that person has been recommended for such appointment pursuant to subsection (1.3).
(1.2): Such committee of the House of Commons as is designated or established to consider agricultural matters shall invite each province and the organizations in that province representing agricultural interests to submit to the committee the names of candidates residing in that province for appointment to an advisory board.
(1.3): Subject to subsection (1.1), the committee referred to in subsection (1.2) shall, for the purposes of subsection (1), recommend from among the candidates the persons it deems most suitable to be appointed to the advisory board.
(1.4): The committee shall recommend persons under subsection (1.2) from each province and the percentage of candidates recommended from a province shall be equal to the percentage that the population of that province represents of the total population of Canada.”

The question was put on Motion No. 6 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 41, NAYS: 185. (See list under Division No. 206)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 7 of Mr. Chrétien (Frontenac), seconded by Mr. Landry (Lotbinière), — That Bill C–60, in Clause 10, be amended by replacing line 14 on page 3 with the following:

“Agency that such committee of the House of Commons as is designated or established to consider agricultural matters submits to it.”

The question was put on Motion No. 7 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 69, NAYS: 157. (See list under Division No. 205)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 8 of Mr. Chrétien (Frontenac), seconded by Mr. Landry (Lotbinière), — That Bill C–60, in Clause 10, be amended by adding after line 14 on page 3 the following:

“(2.1)

On any matter within the responsibilities of the Agency, the board may advise

(a): a provincial government;
(b): a union representing some or all of the employees of the Agency; and
(c): a person from the agriculture, fisheries, food processing, food distribution and public health sectors.”

The question was put on Motion No. 8 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 46, NAYS: 180. (See list under Division No. 207)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 9 of Mr. Chrétien (Frontenac), seconded by Mr. Landry (Lotbinière), — That Bill C–60, in Clause 10, be amended by deleting lines 15 to 21 on page 3.

The question was put on Motion No. 9 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 41, NAYS: 185. (See list under Division No. 206)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 10 of Mr. Chrétien (Frontenac), seconded by Mr. Landry (Lotbinière), — That Bill C–60, in Clause 10, be amended by adding after line 21 on page 3 the following:

“(3.1): The Minister shall appoint at least one representative of a union representing some or all of the employees of the Agency to the board.”

The question was put on Motion No. 10 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 46, NAYS: 180. (See list under Division No. 207)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 11 of Mr. Chrétien (Frontenac), seconded by Mr. Landry (Lotbinière), — That Bill C–60, in Clause 10, be amended by replacing lines 22 to 24 on page 3 with the following:

“(4): The Minister shall appoint as Chairperson of the advisory board the person recommended for that position pursuant to subsection (4.1).
(4.1): Such committee of the House of Commons as is designated or established to consider agricultural matters shall, for the purposes of subsection (4), recommend the member of the advisory board that it deems most suitable as Chairperson of the board.”

The question was put on Motion No. 11 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 75, NAYS: 151. (See list under Division No. 208)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 12 of Mr. Chrétien (Frontenac), seconded by Mr. Landry (Lotbinière), — That Bill C–60, in Clause 10, be amended by replacing line 27 on page 3 with the following:

“pursuant to the recommendation made under subsection (5.1).

(5.1): Such committee of the House of Commons as is designated or established to consider agricultural matters shall, for the purposes of subsection (5), recommend the amount that each member of the advisory board shall be paid as fees for his or her services.”

The question was put on Motion No. 12 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 75, NAYS: 151. (See list under Division No. 208)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 21 of Mr. Chrétien (Frontenac), seconded by Mr. Landry (Lotbinière), — That Bill C–60 be amended by adding after line 44 on page 5 the following new Clause:

“17.1.: The Agency shall, once every year, provide to such committee of the House of Commons as is designated or established to consider agricultural matters a detailed report respecting all actions taken in that year by the Agency in the exercise of its powers under section 17.”

The question was put on Motion No. 21 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 75, NAYS: 151. (See list under Division No. 208)

Group No. 6

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 14 of Mr. Chrétien (Frontenac), seconded by Mr. Crête (Kamouraska–Rivière-du-Loup), — That Bill C–60, in Clause 12, be amended by replacing lines 28 and 29 on page 4 with the following:

“12.

Notwithstanding that the Agency is a separate employer under the Public Service Staff Relations Act,

(a): section 7 and subsection 69(3) of that Act do not apply to the Agency; and
(b): for the purposes of paragraph 92(1)(b) of that Act, the Agency is deemed to be designated pursuant to subsection 92(4) of that Act. “

The question was put on Motion No. 14 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 46, NAYS: 180. (See list under Division No. 207)

Accordingly, Motion No. 17 was also negatived on the same division.

The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 15 of Mr. Chrétien (Frontenac), seconded by Mr. Crête (Kamouraska–Rivière-du-Loup), — That Bill C–60, in Clause 12, be amended by replacing lines 28 and 29 on page 4 with the following:

“12.: The Agency is deemed to be included in the definition of “federal undertaking” in section 2 of the Canada Labour Code and that Act applies, with such modifications as the circumstances require, to the Agency and its employees.”

The question was put on Motion No. 15 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 46, NAYS: 180. (See list under Division No. 207)

The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 16 of Mr. Chrétien (Frontenac), seconded by Mr. Crête (Kamouraska–Rivière-du-Loup), — That Bill C–60, in Clause 13, be amended by replacing lines 30 to 34 on page 4 with the following:

“13.: The employees of the Agency shall be appointed pursuant to the Public Service Employment Act.”

The question was put on Motion No. 16 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 46, NAYS: 180. (See list under Division No. 207)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 18 of Mr. Chrétien (Frontenac), seconded by Mr. Crête (Kamouraska–Rivière-du-Loup), — That Bill C–60, in Clause 13, be amended by adding after line 31 on page 4 the following:

“(1.1): One year after the Agency is established, the President shall provide, for study, to such committee of the House of Commons as is designated or established to consider agricultural matters, a detailed report respecting the criteria used in making appointments under subsection (1).”

The question was put on Motion No. 18 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 75, NAYS: 151. (See list under Division No. 208)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 36 of Mr. Chrétien (Frontenac), seconded by Mr. Crête (Kamouraska–Rivière-du-Loup), — That Bill C–60, in Clause 93, be amended by replacing lines 23 to 27 on page 29 with the following:

“93.

(1): Subject to subsection (2), this Act, or any provision of this Act, or any provision of any Act enacted or amended by this Act, comes into force on a day or days to be fixed by order of the Governor in Council.
(2): The Governor in Council shall not make the order referred to in subsection (1) unless it has been advised by the Minister that the Minister has prepared a Code of Conduct and Ethics to govern the appointment of employees by the Agency.”

The question was put on Motion No. 36 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 46, NAYS: 180. (See list under Division No. 207)

Group No. 7

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 19 of Mr. Chrétien (Frontenac), seconded by Mr. Crête (Kamouraska–Rivière-du-Loup), — That Bill C–60, in Clause 16, be amended by replacing lines 30 to 34 on page 5 with the following:

“16.: Notwithstanding section 9 of the Department of Public Works and Government Services Act, the Agency may, with the approval of the Minister,“

The question was put on Motion No. 19 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 41, NAYS: 185. (See list under Division No. 206)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 20 of Mr. Chrétien (Frontenac), seconded by Mr. Crête (Kamouraska–Rivière-du-Loup), — That Bill C–60 be amended by adding after line 37 on page 5 the following new Clause:

“16.1.

(1): Notwithstanding section 16, the Agency shall not procure goods and services, including legal services, from outside the public service of Canada unless the Agency has satisfied itself that such goods and services are not available within the public service of Canada.
(2): Notwithstanding section 16, where goods and services, including legal services, are to be procured from outside the public service of Canada, the Agency shall, before procuring those services, call for bids for those services from the private sector.”

The question was put on Motion No. 20 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 46, NAYS: 180. (See list under Division No. 207)

Group No. 8

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 24 of Mr. Chrétien (Frontenac), seconded by Mr. Crête (Kamouraska–Rivière-du-Loup), — That Bill C–60, in Clause 22, be amended by replacing lines 4 to 8 on page 7 with the following:

“corporate business plan, for study, to such committee of the House of Commons as is designated or established to consider agricultural matters for study by that committee.

(1.1): After studying the corporate business plan, the committee referred to in subsection (1) shall either approve or reject the plan.
(1.2): Where the corporate business plan is approved, the committee shall advise the Minister of the approval and the Minister shall table a copy of the plan in the House of Commons for approval by that House on any of the first fifteen days on which that House is sitting after the Minister is advised of the committee’s approval.
(1.3): Where a corporate business plan is laid before the House of Commons under subsection (1.2) and rejected by that House, the Agency shall not implement that plan.”

The question was put on Motion No. 24 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 75, NAYS: 151. (See list under Division No. 208)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 25 of Mr. Chrétien (Frontenac), seconded by Mr. Crête (Kamouraska–Rivière-du-Loup), — That Bill C–60, in Clause 22, be amended by adding after line 8 on page 7 the following:

“(1.1)

Before submitting its plan to the minister, the Agency shall consult

(a): any person from the agriculture, fisheries, food processing, food distribution and public health sectors whom the Agency considers appropriate to consult;
(b): any government of a province that has advised, in writing, the Agency of its wish to be consulted; and
(c): the unions representing some or all of the employees of the Agency.”

The question was put on Motion No. 25 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 75, NAYS: 151. (See list under Division No. 208)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 26 of Mr. Chrétien (Frontenac), seconded by Mr. Crête (Kamouraska–Rivière-du-Loup), — That Bill C–60, in Clause 23, be amended by replacing line 40 on page 7 with the following:

“detailed statement of the assessment by”

The question was put on Motion No. 26 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 75, NAYS: 151. (See list under Division No. 208)

Group No. 9

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 27 of Mr. Chrétien (Frontenac), seconded by Mr. Crête (Kamouraska–Rivière-du-Loup), — That Bill C–60, in Clause 24, be amended by replacing lines 6 to 9 on page 8 with the following:

“24.

(1): Subject to the regulations, the Minister may, on January 1, 2000, fix the fees to be paid for a service or the use of a facility provided by the Agency.”

The question was put on Motion No. 27 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 46, NAYS: 180. (See list under Division No. 207)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 28 of Mr. Chrétien (Frontenac), seconded by Mr. Crête (Kamouraska–Rivière-du-Loup), — That Bill C–60, in Clause 26, be amended by replacing lines 17 to 20 on page 8 with the following:

“26.

(1): Before fixing a fee under section 24 or 25, the Minister shall consult with the advisory board and may consult with any persons or organizations that the Minister considers to be interested in the matter.”

The question was put on Motion No. 28 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 75, NAYS: 151. (See list under Division No. 208)

The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 29 of Mr. Chrétien (Frontenac), seconded by Mr. Crête (Kamouraska–Rivière-du-Loup), — That Bill C–60, in Clause 26, be amended by replacing lines 19 and 20 on page 8 with the following:

“persons or organizations that have an interest in the matter or that have expressed an interest in the matter to the Minister.”

The question was put on Motion No. 29 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 75, NAYS: 151. (See list under Division No. 208)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 30 of Mr. Chrétien (Frontenac), seconded by Mr. Crête (Kamouraska–Rivière-du-Loup), — That Bill C–60, in Clause 27, be amended by replacing lines 29 and 30 on page 8 with the following:

“27.

(1): Subject to subsections (2) and (3), the Treasury Board may make regulations for the purposes of sections 24 to 26.
(2): Every regulation the Treasury Board proposes to make under subsection (1) shall be sent by that Board for study and approval to such committee of the House of Commons as is designated or established to consider agricultural matters.
(3): Where, after studying a proposed regulation referred to it under subsection (2), the committee rejects that regulation, that regulation may not be made by the Treasury Board.”

The question was put on Motion No. 30 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 75, NAYS: 151. (See list under Division No. 208)

Group No. 10

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 31 of Mr. Chrétien (Frontenac), seconded by Mr. Crête (Kamouraska–Rivière-du-Loup), — That Bill C–60, in Clause 31, be amended

by replacing line 29 on page 9 with the following:
“31. (1) The Agency must keep books of account”
by adding the following after line 31 on page 9:
“(2) One year after the Agency is established, the Agency shall make available for inspection its books of account and records for that year.”

The question was put on Motion No. 31 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 75, NAYS: 151. (See list under Division No. 208)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 32 of Mr. Chrétien (Frontenac), seconded by Mr. Crête (Kamouraska–Rivière-du-Loup), — That Bill C–60, in Clause 32, be amended by replacing lines 40 to 42 on page 9 with the following:

“(c) provide a report to the President, the Minister and such committee of the House of Commons as is designated or established to consider agricultural matters on the audit, opinion and assessment.”

The question was put on Motion No. 32 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 75, NAYS: 151. (See list under Division No. 208)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 33 of Mr. Chrétien (Frontenac), seconded by Mr. Crête (Kamouraska–Rivière-du-Loup), — That Bill C–60 be amended by adding after line 42 on page 9 the following new Clause:

“32.1.

Before providing the report under paragraph 32(c), the Auditor General of Canada shall consult

(a): any person from the agriculture, fisheries, food processing, food distribution and public health sectors whom the Minister considers appropriate to consult; and
(b): any government of a province that has advised the Auditor General of Canada, in writing, of its wish to be consulted.”

The question was put on Motion No. 33 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 46, NAYS: 180. (See list under Division No. 207)

Group No. 11

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 34 of Mr. Goodale (Minister of Agriculture and Agri-Food), seconded by Mr. Pickard (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Agriculture and Agri-Food) — That Bill C–60 be amended by adding before line 1 on page 10 the following:

“32.1.: The provisions made by any Appropriation Act for the fiscal year in which this section comes into force or a subsequent fiscal year, based on the Estimates for that year, to defray the charges and expenses of the public service of Canada within the Departments of Agriculture and Agri-Food, Fisheries and Oceans and Health in relation to any matter for which the Agency is responsible by virtue of Section 11 are deemed to be an amount appropriated for defraying the charges and expenses of the Canadian Food Inspection Agency in such amount as the Treasury Board may, on the recommendations of the Ministers of Agriculture and Agri-Food, Fisheries and Oceans and Health, determine.”

The question was put on Motion No. 34 and it was agreed to on the following division:

(Division — Vote N^o 209)

Yeas — Pour

Members — Députés

Adams — Alcock — Allmand — Anderson — Arseneault — Assadourian — Augustine — Barnes — Beaumier — Bélair — Bélanger — Bellemare — Bethel — Bevilacqua — Bhaduria — Blaikie — Blondin-Andrew — Bodnar — Bonin — Brown (Oakville–Milton) — Brushett — Bryden — Byrne — Caccia — Campbell — Cannis — Catterall — Chamberlain — Chan — Chrétien (Saint-Maurice) — Clancy — Cohen — Collenette — Collins — Comuzzi — Copps — Cowling — Crawford — Culbert — Cullen — DeVillers — Dhaliwal — Dion — Discepola — Dromisky — Duhamel — Dupuy — Easter — Eggleton — English — Fewchuk — Finestone — Finlay — Flis — Fontana — Fry — Gaffney — Gagliano — Gagnon (Bonaventure–Îles-de-la-Madeleine) — Gallaway — Gerrard — Goodale — Graham — Grose — Guarnieri — Harb — Harper (Churchill) — Harvard — Hopkins — Hubbard — Ianno — Iftody — Irwin — Jackson — Jordan — Keyes — Kilger (Stormont–Dundas) — Kirkby — Knutson — Kraft Sloan — Lastewka — Lavigne (Verdun–Saint-Paul) — LeBlanc (Cape Breton Highlands–Canso) — Lee — Lincoln — Loney — MacAulay — MacDonald — MacLellan (Cape Breton–The Sydneys) — Malhi — Maloney — Manley — Marchi — Marleau — Massé — McCormick — McKinnon — McLaughlin — McLellan (Edmonton Northwest) — McTeague — McWhinney — Mills (Broadview–Greenwood) — Minna — Mitchell — Murphy — Murray — Nault — Nunziata — O’Brien (Labrador) — O’Brien (London-Middlesex) — O’Reilly — Pagtakhan — Parrish — Patry — Peric — Peters — Peterson — Pettigrew — Phinney — Pickard (Essex–Kent) — Pillitteri — Proud — Reed — Regan — Richardson — Rideout — Robichaud — Robillard — Robinson — Rock — Scott (Fredericton–York–Sunbury) — Serré — Shepherd — Sheridan — Simmons — Skoke — Solomon — Speller — St. Denis — Steckle — Stewart (Northumberland) — Szabo — Taylor — Telegdi — Thalheimer — Torsney — Ur — Valeri — Vanclief — Volpe — Walker — Wappel — Wells — Whelan — Wood — Young — Zed --157

Nays — Contre

Members — Députés

Ablonczy — Asselin — Bachand — Benoit — Bergeron — Bernier (Gaspé) — Bernier (Mégantic–Compton–Stanstead) — Breitkreuz (Yorkton–Melville) — Canuel — Chatters — Chrétien (Frontenac) — Crête — Cummins — Dalphond-Guiral — Daviault — de Savoye — Dubé — Duceppe — Dumas — Duncan — Epp — Forseth — Frazer — Gagnon (Québec) — Gauthier — Godin — Grey (Beaver River) — Grubel — Guay — Guimond — Hanger — Harper (Simcoe Centre) — Hill (Macleod) — Hill (Prince George–Peace River) — Jacob — Johnston — Landry — Langlois — Laurin — Lavigne (Beauharnois–Salaberry) — Lebel — Leroux (Richmond–Wolfe) — Leroux (Shefford) — Loubier — Manning — Marchand — McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) — Ménard — Mercier — Meredith — Mills (Red Deer) — Nunez — Paré — Picard (Drummond) — Pomerleau — Ramsay — Rocheleau — Sauvageau — Schmidt — Solberg — Speaker — Stinson — Strahl — Thompson — Tremblay (Lac Saint-Jean) — Tremblay (Rimouski–Témiscouata) — Tremblay (Rosemont) — Venne — Williams --69

Paired Members — Députés « Pairés »

Anawak — Bélisle — Bellehumeur — Boudria — Brien — Calder — Deshaies — Dingwall — Fillion — Godfrey — Hickey — Lalonde — Lefebvre — Mifflin — Murphy — St-Laurent

Mr. Goodale (Minister of Agriculture and Agri-Food), seconded by Mr. Gagliano (Minister of Labour and Deputy Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), moved, — That Bill C–60, An Act to establish the Canadian Food Inspection Agency and to repeal and amend other Acts as a consequence, be concurred in at report stage and read a second time.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:

(Division — Vote N^o 210)

Yeas — Pour

Members — Députés

Adams — Alcock — Allmand — Anderson — Arseneault — Assadourian — Augustine — Barnes — Beaumier — Bélair — Bélanger — Bellemare — Bethel — Bevilacqua — Bhaduria — Blondin-Andrew — Bodnar — Bonin — Brown (Oakville–Milton) — Brushett — Bryden — Byrne — Caccia — Campbell — Cannis — Catterall — Chamberlain — Chan — Chrétien (Saint-Maurice) — Clancy — Cohen — Collenette — Collins — Comuzzi — Copps — Cowling — Crawford — Culbert — Cullen — DeVillers — Dhaliwal — Dion — Discepola — Dromisky — Duhamel — Dupuy — Easter — Eggleton — English — Fewchuk — Finestone — Finlay — Flis — Fontana — Fry — Gaffney — Gagliano — Gagnon (Bonaventure–Îles-de-la-Madeleine) — Gallaway — Gerrard — Goodale — Graham — Grose — Guarnieri — Harb — Harper (Churchill) — Harvard — Hopkins — Hubbard — Ianno — Iftody — Irwin — Jackson — Jordan — Keyes — Kilger (Stormont–Dundas) — Kirkby — Knutson — Kraft Sloan — Lastewka — Lavigne (Verdun–Saint-Paul) — LeBlanc (Cape Breton Highlands–Canso) — Lee — Lincoln — Loney — MacAulay — MacDonald — MacLellan (Cape Breton–The Sydneys) — Malhi — Maloney — Manley — Marchi — Marleau — Massé — McCormick — McKinnon — McLellan (Edmonton Northwest) — McTeague — McWhinney — Mills (Broadview–Greenwood) — Minna — Mitchell — Murphy — Murray — Nault — Nunziata — O’Brien (Labrador) — O’Brien (London–Middlesex) — O’Reilly — Pagtakhan — Parrish — Patry — Peric — Peters — Peterson — Pettigrew — Phinney — Pickard (Essex–Kent) — Pillitteri — Proud — Reed — Regan — Richardson — Rideout — Robichaud — Robillard — Rock — Scott (Fredericton–York–Sunbury) — Serré — Shepherd — Sheridan — Simmons — Skoke — Speller — St. Denis — Steckle — Stewart (Northumberland) — Szabo — Telegdi — Thalheimer — Torsney — Ur — Valeri — Vanclief — Volpe — Walker — Wappel — Wells — Whelan — Wood — Young — Zed --152

Nays — Contre

Members — Députés

Ablonczy — Asselin — Bachand — Benoit — Bergeron — Bernier (Gaspé) — Bernier (Mégantic–Compton–Stanstead) — Blaikie — Breitkreuz (Yorkton–Melville) — Canuel — Chatters — Chrétien (Frontenac) — Crête — Cummins — Dalphond-Guiral — Daviault — de Savoye — Dubé — Duceppe — Dumas — Duncan — Epp — Forseth — Frazer — Gagnon (Québec) — Gauthier — Godin — Grey (Beaver River) — Grubel — Guay — Guimond — Hanger — Harper (Simcoe Centre) — Hill (Macleod) — Hill (Prince George–Peace River) — Jacob — Johnston — Landry — Langlois — Laurin — Lavigne (Beauharnois–Salaberry) — Lebel — Leroux (Richmond–Wolfe) — Leroux (Shefford) — Loubier — Manning — Marchand — McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) — McLaughlin — Ménard — Mercier — Meredith — Mills (Red Deer) — Nunez — Paré — Picard (Drummond) — Pomerleau — Ramsay — Robinson — Rocheleau — Sauvageau — Schmidt — Solberg — Solomon — Speaker — Stinson — Strahl — Taylor — Thompson — Tremblay (Lac Saint-Jean) — Tremblay (Rimouski–Témiscouata) — Tremblay (Rosemont) — Venne — Williams --74

Paired Members — Députés « Pairés »

Anawak — Bélisle — Bellehumeur — Boudria — Brien — Calder — Deshaies — Dingwall — Fillion — Godfrey — Hickey — Lalonde — Lefebvre — Mifflin — Murphy — St-Laurent

Accordingly, the Bill, as amended, was concurred in at report stage with a further amendment, read the second time and ordered for a third reading at the next sitting of the House.

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded divisions at report stage of Bill C–23, An Act to establish the Canadian Nuclear Safety Commission and to make consequential amendments to other Acts, as reported by the Standing Committee on Natural Resources with amendments.

Group No. 1

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 1 of Mr. Canuel (Matapédia–Matane), seconded by Mr. Deshaies (Abitibi), — That Bill C–23, in Clause 2, be amended by replacing lines 5 and 6 on page 2 with the following:

“‘Minister’ means the Minister of the Environment or such member of the Queen’s”

The question was put on Motion No. 1 and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division — Vote N^o 211)

Yeas — Pour

Members — Députés

Asselin — Bachand — Bergeron — Bernier (Gaspé) — Bernier (Mégantic–Compton–Stanstead) — Blaikie — Canuel — Chrétien (Frontenac) — Crête — Dalphond-Guiral — Daviault — de Savoye — Dubé — Duceppe — Dumas — Gagnon (Québec) — Gauthier — Godin — Guay — Guimond — Jacob — Landry — Langlois — Laurin — Lavigne (Beauharnois–Salaberry) — Lebel — Leroux (Richmond–Wolfe) — Leroux (Shefford) — Loubier — Marchand — McLaughlin — Ménard — Mercier — Nunez — Nunziata — Paré — Picard (Drummond) — Pomerleau — Robinson — Rocheleau — Sauvageau — Solomon — Taylor — Tremblay (Lac Saint-Jean) — Tremblay (Rimouski–Témiscouata) — Tremblay (Rosemont) — Venne --47

Nays — Contre

Members — Députés

Ablonczy — Adams — Alcock — Allmand — Anderson — Arseneault — Assadourian — Augustine — Barnes — Beaumier — Bélair — Bélanger — Bellemare — Benoit — Bethel — Bevilacqua — Bhaduria — Blondin-Andrew — Bodnar — Bonin — Breitkreuz (Yorkton–Melville) — Brown (Oakville–Milton) — Brushett — Bryden — Byrne — Caccia — Campbell — Cannis — Catterall — Chamberlain — Chan — Chatters — Chrétien (Saint-Maurice) — Clancy — Cohen — Collenette — Collins — Comuzzi — Copps — Cowling — Crawford — Culbert — Cullen — Cummins — DeVillers — Dhaliwal — Dion — Discepola — Dromisky — Duhamel — Duncan — Dupuy — Easter — Eggleton — English — Epp — Fewchuk — Finestone — Finlay — Flis — Fontana — Forseth — Frazer — Fry — Gaffney — Gagliano — Gagnon (Bonaventure–Îles-de-la-Madeleine) — Gallaway — Gerrard — Goodale — Graham — Grey (Beaver River) — Grose — Grubel — Guarnieri — Hanger — Harb — Harper (Churchill) — Harper (Simcoe Centre) — Harvard — Hill (Macleod) — Hill (Prince George–Peace River) — Hopkins — Hubbard — Ianno — Iftody — Irwin — Jackson — Johnston — Jordan — Keyes — Kilger (Stormont–Dundas) — Kirkby — Knutson — Kraft Sloan — Lastewka — Lavigne (Verdun–Saint-Paul) — LeBlanc (Cape Breton Highlands–Canso) — Lee — Lincoln — Loney — MacAulay — MacDonald — MacLellan (Cape Breton–The Sydneys) — Malhi — Maloney — Manley — Manning — Marchi — Marleau — Massé — McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) — McCormick — McKinnon — McLellan (Edmonton Northwest) — McTeague — McWhinney — Meredith — Mills (Broadview–Greenwood) — Mills (Red Deer) — Minna — Mitchell — Murphy — Murray — Nault — O’Brien (Labrador) — O’Brien (London–Middlesex) — O’Reilly — Pagtakhan — Parrish — Patry — Peric — Peters — Peterson — Pettigrew — Phinney — Pickard (Essex–Kent) — Pillitteri — Proud — Ramsay — Reed — Regan — Richardson — Rideout — Robichaud — Robillard — Rock — Schmidt — Scott (Fredericton–York–Sunbury) — Serré — Shepherd — Sheridan — Simmons — Skoke — Solberg — Speaker — Speller — St. Denis — Steckle — Stewart (Northumberland) — Stinson — Strahl — Szabo — Telegdi — Thalheimer — Thompson — Torsney — Ur — Valeri — Vanclief — Volpe — Walker — Wappel — Wells — Whelan — Williams — Wood — Young — Zed --179

Paired Members — Députés « Pairés »

Anawak — Bélisle — Bellehumeur — Boudria — Brien — Calder — Deshaies — Dingwall — Fillion — Godfrey — Hickey — Lalonde — Lefebvre — Mifflin — Murphy — St-Laurent

Group No. 2

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 3 of Mr. Ringma (Nanaimo–Cowichan), seconded by Mr. Stinson (Okanagan–Shuswap), — That Bill C–23, in Clause 3, be amended by

replacing lines 15 and 16 on page 4 with the following:
“substances, prescribed equipment and prescribed information;”;
replacing line 22 on page 4 with the following:
“weapons and nuclear explosive devices; and”;
adding after line 22 on page 4 the following:
“(c) the education of the public on the health, safety and environmental effects associated with the development, production or use of nuclear energy in Canada.”

The question was put on Motion No. 3 and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division — Vote N^o 212)

Yeas — Pour

Members — Députés

Ablonczy — Asselin — Bachand — Benoit — Bergeron — Bernier (Gaspé) — Bernier (Mégantic–Compton–Stanstead) — Bhaduria — Blaikie — Breitkreuz (Yorkton–Melville) — Canuel — Chatters — Chrétien (Frontenac) — Crête — Cummins — Dalphond-Guiral — Daviault — de Savoye — Dubé — Duceppe — Dumas — Duncan — Epp — Forseth — Frazer — Gagnon (Québec) — Gauthier — Godin — Grey (Beaver River) — Grubel — Guay — Guimond — Hanger — Harper (Simcoe Centre) — Hill (Macleod) — Hill (Prince George–Peace River) — Jacob — Johnston — Landry — Langlois — Laurin — Lavigne (Beauharnois–Salaberry) — Lebel — Leroux (Richmond–Wolfe) — Leroux (Shefford) — Loubier — Manning — Marchand — McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) — McLaughlin — Ménard — Mercier — Meredith — Mills (Red Deer) — Nunez — Nunziata — Paré — Picard (Drummond) — Pomerleau — Ramsay — Robinson — Rocheleau — Sauvageau — Schmidt — Solberg — Solomon — Speaker — Stinson — Strahl — Taylor — Thompson — Tremblay (Lac Saint-Jean) — Tremblay (Rimouski–Témiscouata) — Tremblay (Rosemont) — Venne — Williams --76

Nays — Contre

Members — Députés

Adams — Alcock — Allmand — Anderson — Arseneault — Assadourian — Augustine — Barnes — Beaumier — Bélair — Bélanger — Bellemare — Bethel — Bevilacqua — Blondin-Andrew — Bodnar — Bonin — Brown (Oakville–Milton) — Brushett — Bryden — Byrne — Caccia — Campbell — Cannis — Catterall — Chamberlain — Chan — Chrétien (Saint-Maurice) — Clancy — Cohen — Collenette — Collins — Comuzzi — Copps — Cowling — Crawford — Culbert — Cullen — DeVillers — Dhaliwal — Dion — Discepola — Dromisky — Duhamel — Dupuy — Easter — Eggleton — English — Fewchuk — Finestone — Finlay — Flis — Fontana — Fry — Gaffney — Gagliano — Gagnon (Bonaventure–Îles-de-la-Madeleine) — Gallaway — Gerrard — Goodale — Graham — Grose — Guarnieri — Harb — Harper (Churchill) — Harvard — Hopkins — Hubbard — Ianno — Iftody — Irwin — Jackson — Jordan — Keyes — Kilger (Stormont–Dundas) — Kirkby — Knutson — Kraft Sloan — Lastewka — Lavigne (Verdun–Saint-Paul) — LeBlanc (Cape Breton Highlands–Canso) — Lee — Lincoln — Loney — MacAulay — MacDonald — MacLellan (Cape Breton–The Sydneys) — Malhi — Maloney — Manley — Marchi — Marleau — Massé — McCormick — McKinnon — McLellan (Edmonton Northwest) — McTeague — McWhinney — Mills (Broadview–Greenwood) — Minna — Mitchell — Murphy — Murray — Nault — O’Brien (Labrador) — O’Brien (London–Middlesex) — O’Reilly — Pagtakhan — Parrish — Patry — Peric — Peters — Peterson — Pettigrew — Phinney — Pickard (Essex–Kent) — Pillitteri — Proud — Reed — Regan — Richardson — Rideout — Robichaud — Robillard — Rock — Scott (Fredericton–York–Sunbury) — Serré — Shepherd — Sheridan — Simmons — Skoke — Speller — St. Denis — Steckle — Stewart (Northumberland) — Szabo — Telegdi — Thalheimer — Torsney — Ur — Valeri — Vanclief — Volpe — Walker — Wappel — Wells — Whelan — Wood — Young — Zed --150

Paired Members — Députés « Pairés »

Anawak — Bélisle — Bellehumeur — Boudria — Brien — Calder — Deshaies — Dingwall — Fillion — Godfrey — Hickey — Lalonde — Lefebvre — Mifflin — Murphy — St-Laurent

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 6 of Mr. Ringma (Nanaimo–Cowichan), seconded by Mr. Stinson (Okanagan–Shuswap), — That Bill C–23, in Clause 9, be amended by

replacing lines 23 to 28 on page 5 with the following:
“(ii) prevent unreasonable risk to national security associated with the development, production, possession or use,

(iii) achieve conformity with measures of control and international obligations to which Canada has agreed,”;
adding after line 36 on page 5 the following:
“(c) to inform the public as to the health, safety and environmental effects associated with nuclear activities in Canada; and“

The question was put on Motion No. 6 and it was agreed negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 76, NAYS: 150. (See list under Division No. 212)

Group No. 3

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 4 of Mr. Solomon (Regina–Lumsden), seconded by Mr. Nunez (Bourassa), — That Bill C–23 be amended by deleting Clause 6.

The question was put on Motion No. 4 and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division — Vote N^o 213)

Yeas — Pour

Members — Députés

Bhaduria — Blaikie — McLaughlin — Nunziata — Robinson — Solomon — Taylor --7

Nays — Contre

Members — Députés

Ablonczy — Adams — Alcock — Allmand — Anderson — Arseneault — Assadourian — Asselin — Augustine — Bachand — Barnes — Beaumier — Bélair — Bélanger — Bellemare — Benoit — Bergeron — Bernier (Gaspé) — Bernier (Mégantic–Compton–Stanstead) — Bethel — Bevilacqua — Blondin-Andrew — Bodnar — Bonin — Breitkreuz (Yorkton–Melville) — Brown (Oakville–Milton) — Brushett — Bryden — Byrne — Caccia — Campbell — Cannis — Canuel — Catterall — Chamberlain — Chan — Chatters — Chrétien (Frontenac) — Chrétien (Saint-Maurice) — Clancy — Cohen — Collenette — Collins — Comuzzi — Copps — Cowling — Crawford — Crête — Culbert — Cullen — Cummins — Dalphond-Guiral — Daviault — de Savoye — DeVillers — Dhaliwal — Dion — Discepola — Dromisky — Dubé — Duceppe — Duhamel — Dumas — Duncan — Dupuy — Easter — Eggleton — English — Epp — Fewchuk — Finestone — Finlay — Flis — Fontana — Forseth — Frazer — Fry — Gaffney — Gagliano — Gagnon (Bonaventure–Îles-de-la-Madeleine) — Gagnon (Québec) — Gallaway — Gauthier — Gerrard — Godin — Goodale — Graham — Grey (Beaver River) — Grose — Grubel — Guarnieri — Guay — Guimond — Hanger — Harb — Harper (Churchill) — Harper (Simcoe Centre) — Harvard — Hill (Macleod) — Hill (Prince George–Peace River) — Hopkins — Hubbard — Ianno — Iftody — Irwin — Jackson — Jacob — Johnston — Jordan — Keyes — Kilger (Stormont–Dundas) — Kirkby — Knutson — Kraft Sloan — Landry — Langlois — Lastewka — Laurin — Lavigne (Beauharnois–Salaberry) — Lavigne (Verdun–Saint-Paul) — Lebel — LeBlanc (Cape Breton Highlands–Canso) — Lee — Leroux (Richmond–Wolfe) — Leroux (Shefford) — Lincoln — Loney — Loubier — MacAulay — MacDonald — MacLellan (Cape Breton–The Sydneys) — Malhi — Maloney — Manley — Manning — Marchand — Marchi — Marleau — Massé — McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) — McCormick — McKinnon — McLellan (Edmonton Northwest) — McTeague — McWhinney — Ménard — Mercier — Meredith — Mills (Broadview–Greenwood) — Mills (Red Deer) — Minna — Mitchell — Murphy — Murray — Nault — Nunez — O’Brien (Labrador) — O’Brien (London–Middlesex) — O’Reilly — Pagtakhan — Paré — Parrish — Patry — Peric — Peters — Peterson — Pettigrew — Phinney — Picard (Drummond) — Pickard (Essex–Kent) — Pillitteri — Pomerleau — Proud — Ramsay — Reed — Regan — Richardson — Rideout — Robichaud — Robillard — Rocheleau — Rock — Sauvageau — Schmidt — Scott (Fredericton–York–Sunbury) — Serré — Shepherd — Sheridan — Simmons — Skoke — Solberg — Speaker — Speller — St. Denis — Steckle — Stewart (Northumberland) — Stinson — Strahl — Szabo — Telegdi — Thalheimer — Thompson — Torsney — Tremblay (Lac Saint-Jean) — Tremblay (Rimouski–Témiscouata) — Tremblay (Rosemont) — Ur — Valeri — Vanclief — Venne — Volpe — Walker — Wappel — Wells — Whelan — Williams — Wood — Young — Zed --219

Paired Members — Députés « Pairés »

Anawak — Bélisle — Bellehumeur — Boudria — Brien — Calder — Deshaies — Dingwall — Fillion — Godfrey — Hickey — Lalonde — Lefebvre — Mifflin — Murphy — St-Laurent

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 5 of Mr. Solomon (Regina–Lumsden), seconded by Mr. Nunez (Bourassa), — That Bill C–23 be amended by deleting Clause 7.

The question was put on motion No. 5 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 47, NAYS: 179. (See list under Division No. 211)

Group No. 4

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 7 of Mr. Canuel (Matapédia–Matane), seconded by Mr. Deshaies (Abitibi), — That Bill C–23, in Clause 10, be amended by replacing line 2 on page 6 with the following:

“more than seven permanent members, among whom there shall be at least one representative of an organization generally recognized for at least five years for its work in environmental protection and a representative of the nuclear industry, to be”

The question was put on Motion No. 7 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 76, NAYS: 150. (See list under Division No. 212)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 8 of Mr. Canuel (Matapédia–Matane), seconded by Mr. Deshaies (Abitibi), — That Bill C–23, in Clause 10, be amended by replacing line 3 on page 6 with the following:

“appointed by the Governor in Council following approval by resolution of the Senate and the House of Commons.”

The question was put on Motion No. 8 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 76, NAYS: 150. (See list under Division No. 212)

Group No. 5

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 9 of Mr. Solomon (Regina–Lumsden), seconded by Mr. Nunez (Bourassa), — That Bill C–23, in Clause 33, be amended by replacing lines 15 to 17 on page 19 with the following:

“33.: While exercising any authority under the Act, an inspector shall make all reasonable efforts to be accompanied by a member of a health and safety committee or an environment committee whose sphere of activity is affected by the authority exercised by the inspector, and the inspector may also be accompanied by any other person chosen by the inspector.”

The question was put on Motion No. 9 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 7, NAYS: 219. (See list under Division No. 213)

Group No. 6

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 10 of Mr. Canuel (Matapédia–Matane), seconded by Mr. Deshaies (Abitibi), — That Bill C–23, in Clause 44, be amended by

replacing lines 21 to 23 on page 27 with the following:
“44. (1) The Commission may, with the approval of the Governor in Council and subject to subsections (1.1) and (1.2), make regulations”; and
adding after line 25 on page 30 the following:
“(1.1) In making a regulation under subsection (1), the Commission shall have regard to the principle that persons subject to the regulation should not be required to bear costs that are unreasonable in comparison with the anticipated benefits.

(1.2) The Commission shall make no regulation under subsection (1) that, in its opinion, will require persons subject to the regulation to bear costs that are unreasonable in comparison with the anticipated benefits.”

The question was put on Motion No. 10 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 41, NAYS: 185. (See list under Division No. 206)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 11 of Mr. Canuel (Matapédia–Matane), seconded by Mr. Deshaies (Abitibi), — That Bill C–23, in Clause 44, be amended by replacing lines 5 to 7 on page 29 with the following:

“(i) prescribing the fees that may be charged for the provision, by the Commission, of information, products and services, following consultation with any parties who have notified the Commission in writing of their desire to be consulted in this matter;”

The question was put on Motion No. 11 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 69, NAYS: 157. (See list under Division No. 205)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 12 of Mr. Canuel (Matapédia–Matane), seconded by Mr. Deshaies (Abitibi), — That Bill C–23, in Clause 44, be amended by replacing lines 8 to 10 on page 29 with the following:

“(j) prescribing

(i) initial fees or the method of calculating the initial fees that may be charged for a licence or class of licence, and

(ii) after consultation with the licensees, the fees or the method of calculating the fees that may be charged for renewal of a licence or class of licence;”

The question was put on Motion No. 12 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 69, NAYS: 157. (See list under Division No. 205)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 13 of Mr. Solomon (Regina–Lumsden), seconded by Mr. Nunez (Bourassa), — That Bill C–23, in Clause 44, be amended by deleting lines 15 to 19 on page 30.

The question was put on Motion No. 13 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 7, NAYS: 219. (See list under Division No. 213)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 14 of Mr. Solomon (Regina–Lumsden), seconded by Mr. Nunez (Bourassa), — That Bill C–23, in Clause 44, be amended by replacing lines 14 to 17 on page 31 with the following:

“(5): The Governor in Council may, subject to affirmative resolution of the House of Commons, make regulations generally as the Governor in Council considers necessary for carrying out the purposes of this Act.”

The question was put on Motion No. 14 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 76, NAYS: 150. (See list under Division No. 212)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 15 of Ms. McLellan (Minister of Natural Resources), seconded by Mrs. Cowling (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Natural Resources), — That Bill C–23, in Clause 44, be amended by adding after line 20 on page 32 the following:

“(12): A copy of each regulation that the Commission proposes to make under paragraphs (1)(i) or (1)(j) shall be published in the Canada Gazette and a reasonable opportunity shall be given to persons to make representations to the Commission with respect thereto.”

The question was put on Motion No. 15 and it was agreed to on the following division:

(Division — Vote N^o 214)

Yeas — Pour

Members — Députés

Ablonczy — Adams — Alcock — Allmand — Anderson — Arseneault — Assadourian — Asselin — Augustine — Bachand — Barnes — Beaumier — Bélair — Bélanger — Bellemare — Benoit — Bergeron — Bernier (Gaspé) — Bernier (Mégantic–Compton–Stanstead) — Bethel — Bevilacqua — Bhaduria — Blaikie — Blondin-Andrew — Bodnar — Bonin — Breitkreuz (Yorkton–Melville) — Brown (Oakville–Milton) — Brushett — Bryden — Byrne — Caccia — Campbell — Cannis — Canuel — Catterall — Chamberlain — Chan — Chatters — Chrétien (Frontenac) — Chrétien (Saint-Maurice) — Clancy — Cohen — Collenette — Collins — Comuzzi — Copps — Cowling — Crawford — Crête — Culbert — Cullen — Cummins — Dalphond-Guiral — Daviault — de Savoye — DeVillers — Dhaliwal — Dion — Discepola — Dromisky — Dubé — Duceppe — Duhamel — Dumas — Duncan — Dupuy — Easter — Eggleton — English — Epp — Fewchuk — Finestone — Finlay — Flis — Fontana — Forseth — Frazer — Fry — Gaffney — Gagliano — Gagnon (Bonaventure–Îles-de-la-Madeleine) — Gagnon (Québec) — Gallaway — Gauthier — Gerrard — Godin — Goodale — Graham — Grey (Beaver River) — Grose — Grubel — Guarnieri — Guay — Guimond — Hanger — Harb — Harper (Churchill) — Harper (Simcoe Centre) — Harvard — Hill (Macleod) — Hill (Prince George–Peace River) — Hopkins — Hubbard — Ianno — Iftody — Irwin — Jackson — Jacob — Johnston — Jordan — Keyes — Kilger (Stormont-Dundas) — Kirkby — Knutson — Kraft Sloan — Landry — Langlois — Lastewka — Laurin — Lavigne (Beauharnois–Salaberry) — Lavigne (Verdun–Saint-Paul) — Lebel — LeBlanc (Cape Breton Highlands–Canso) — Lee — Leroux (Richmond–Wolfe) — Leroux (Shefford) — Lincoln — Loney — Loubier — MacAulay — MacDonald — MacLellan (Cape Breton–The Sydneys) — Malhi — Maloney — Manley — Manning — Marchand — Marchi — Marleau — Massé — McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) — McCormick — McKinnon — McLaughlin — McLellan (Edmonton Northwest) — McTeague — McWhinney — Ménard — Mercier — Meredith — Mills (Broadview–Greenwood) — Mills (Red Deer) — Minna — Mitchell — Murphy — Murray — Nault — Nunez — Nunziata — O’Brien (Labrador) — O’Brien (London–Middlesex) — O’Reilly — Pagtakhan — Paré — Parrish — Patry — Peric — Peters — Peterson — Pettigrew — Phinney — Picard (Drummond) — Pickard (Essex–Kent) — Pillitteri — Pomerleau — Proud — Ramsay — Reed — Regan — Richardson — Rideout — Robichaud — Robillard — Robinson — Rocheleau — Rock — Sauvageau — Schmidt — Scott (Fredericton–York–Sunbury) — Serré — Shepherd — Sheridan — Simmons — Skoke — Solberg — Solomon — Speaker — Speller — St. Denis — Steckle — Stewart (Northumberland) — Stinson — Strahl — Szabo — Taylor — Telegdi — Thalheimer — Thompson — Torsney — Tremblay (Lac Saint-Jean) — Tremblay (Rimouski–Témiscouata) — Tremblay (Rosemont) — Ur — Valeri — Vanclief — Venne — Volpe — Walker — Wappel — Wells — Whelan — Williams — Wood — Young — Zed --226

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Anawak — Bélisle — Bellehumeur — Boudria — Brien — Calder — Deshaies — Dingwall — Fillion — Godfrey — Hickey — Lalonde — Lefebvre — Mifflin — Murphy — St-Laurent

Group No. 7

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 16 of Mr. Canuel (Matapédia–Matane), seconded by Mr. Deshaies (Abitibi), — That Bill C–23 be amended by adding after line 12 on page 36 the following new Clause:

“51.1.: No person shall be found guilty of an offence under this Act or a regulation made thereunder if the person establishes that he or she exercised all due diligence to prevent its commission.”

The question was put on Motion No. 16 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 69, NAYS: 157. (See list under Division No. 205)

The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 17 of Ms. McLellan (Minister of Natural Resources), seconded by Mrs. Cowling (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Natural Resources), — That Bill C–23 be amended by adding after line 12 on page 36 the following:

“51.1.: A person shall not be found to have contravened any provision of this Act, other than section 50, if it is established that the person exercised all due diligence to prevent its commission.”

The question was put on Motion No. 17 and it was agreed to on the following division:

YEAS: 226, NAYS: 0. (See list under Division No. 214)

Group No. 8

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 18 of Mr. Canuel (Matapédia–Matane), seconded by Mr. Deshaies (Abitibi), — That Bill C–23, in Clause 72, be amended by replacing lines 33 to 37 on page 42 with the following:

“72.: The Commission shall, within four months after the end of each fiscal year, submit to the Minister a report of the activities of the Commission under this Act for that fiscal year, incorporating any comments received from any interested party regarding its internal management, operations and business practices and stating how such comments have affected the way it carries out its mandate, and the Minister shall cause the“

The question was put on Motion No. 18 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 76, NAYS: 150. (See list under Division No. 212)

The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 19 of Mr. Canuel (Matapédia–Matane), seconded by Mr. Deshaies (Abitibi), — That Bill C–23, in Clause 72, be amended by replacing lines 33 to 40 on page 42 with the following:

“72.

The Commission shall, within four months after the end of each fiscal year,

(a): hold public hearings, in accordance with the prescribed rules of procedure, regarding its internal management, operations and business partners during the fiscal year; and
(b): submit to the Minister a report of the activities of the Commission under this Act, including the public hearings held under paragraph (a), for that fiscal year, and the Minister shall cause the report to be laid before each House of Parliament on any of the first fifteen days on which that House is sitting after receiving it.”

The question was put on Motion No. 19 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 76, NAYS: 150. (See list under Division No. 212)

Ms. McLellan (Minister of Natural Resources), seconded by Mr. Irwin (Minister of Indian Affairs and Northern Development), moved, — That Bill C–23, An Act to establish the Canadian Nuclear Safety Commission and to make consequential amendments to other Acts, as amended, be concurred in at report stage with further amendments.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:

YEAS: 226, NAYS: 0. (See list under Division No. 214)

Accordingly, the Bill, as amended, was concurred in at report stage with further amendments and ordered for a third reading at the next sitting of the House.

Pursuant to Standing Order 45, the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the motion of Mr. Gray (Solicitor General of Canada), seconded by Mrs. Stewart (Secretary of State (Latin America and Africa)), — That Bill C–53, An Act to amend the Prisons and Reformatories Act, be now read a third time and do pass.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:

(Division — Vote N^o 215)

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Adams — Alcock — Allmand — Anderson — Arseneault — Assadourian — Asselin — Augustine — Bachand — Barnes — Beaumier — Bélair — Bélanger — Bellemare — Bergeron — Bernier (Gaspé) — Bernier (Mégantic–Compton–Stanstead) — Bethel — Bevilacqua — Bhaduria — Blaikie — Blondin-Andrew — Bodnar — Bonin — Brown (Oakville–Milton) — Brushett — Bryden — Byrne — Caccia — Campbell — Cannis — Canuel — Catterall — Chamberlain — Chan — Chrétien (Frontenac) — Chrétien (Saint-Maurice) — Clancy — Cohen — Collenette — Collins — Comuzzi — Copps — Cowling — Crawford — Crête — Culbert — Cullen — Dalphond-Guiral — Daviault — de Savoye — DeVillers — Dhaliwal — Dion — Discepola — Dromisky — Dubé — Duceppe — Duhamel — Dumas — Dupuy — Easter — Eggleton — English — Fewchuk — Finestone — Finlay — Flis — Fontana — Fry — Gaffney — Gagliano — Gagnon (Bonaventure–Îles-de-la-Madeleine) — Gagnon (Québec) — Gallaway — Gauthier — Gerrard — Godin — Goodale — Graham — Grose — Guarnieri — Guay — Guimond — Harb — Harper (Churchill) — Harvard — Hopkins — Hubbard — Ianno — Iftody — Irwin — Jackson — Jacob — Jordan — Keyes — Kilger (Stormont–Dundas) — Kirkby — Knutson — Kraft Sloan — Landry — Langlois — Lastewka — Laurin — Lavigne (Beauharnois–Salaberry) — Lavigne (Verdun–Saint-Paul) — Lebel — LeBlanc (Cape Breton Highlands–Canso) — Lee — Leroux (Richmond–Wolfe) — Leroux (Shefford) — Lincoln — Loney — Loubier — MacAulay — MacDonald — MacLellan (Cape Breton–The Sydneys) — Malhi — Maloney — Manley — Marchand — Marchi — Marleau — Massé — McCormick — McKinnon — McLaughlin — McLellan (Edmonton Northwest) — McTeague — McWhinney — Ménard — Mercier — Mills (Broadview–Greenwood) — Minna — Mitchell — Murphy — Murray — Nault — Nunez — Nunziata — O’Brien (Labrador) — O’Brien (London–Middlesex) — O’Reilly — Pagtakhan — Paré — Parrish — Patry — Peric — Peters — Peterson — Pettigrew — Phinney — Picard (Drummond) — Pickard (Essex–Kent) — Pillitteri — Pomerleau — Proud — Reed — Regan — Richardson — Rideout — Robichaud — Robillard — Robinson — Rocheleau — Rock — Sauvageau — Scott (Fredericton–York–Sunbury) — Serré — Shepherd — Sheridan — Simmons — Skoke — Solomon — Speller — St. Denis — Steckle — Stewart (Northumberland) — Szabo — Taylor — Telegdi — Thalheimer — Torsney — Tremblay (Lac Saint-Jean) — Tremblay (Rimouski–Témiscouata) — Tremblay (Rosemont) — Ur — Valeri — Vanclief — Venne — Volpe — Walker — Wappel — Wells — Whelan — Wood — Young — Zed --198

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Anawak — Bélisle — Bellehumeur — Boudria — Brien — Calder — Deshaies — Dingwall — Fillion — Godfrey — Hickey — Lalonde — Lefebvre — Mifflin — Murphy — St-Laurent

Accordingly, the Bill was read the third time and passed.

At 6:34 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 30(7), the House proceeded to the consideration of Private Members’ Business.

Ms. McLaughlin (Yukon), seconded by Mr. Taylor (The Battlefords–Meadow Lake), moved, — That, in the opinion of this House, the Minister of Canadian Heritage should proceed immediately to exempt CBC North from layoffs and funding reductions to the operating budget resulting from the $127 million reduction in federal funding to the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation announced in 1996, as well as future cuts should they occur. (Private Members’ Business M–288)

Debate arose thereon.

Pursuant to Standing Order 96(1), the Order was dropped from the Order Paper.

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, a petition certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions was filed as follows:

by Mrs. Barnes (London West), concerning sexual orientation (No. 352-1570).

At 7:30 p.m., the Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow at 2:00 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).

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