HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA
35th PARLIAMENT, 2nd SESSION

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JOURNALS

No. 3

Thursday, February 15, 1996

10:00 a.m.

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PRAYERS

DAILY ROUTINE OF BUSINESS

Tabling of Documents

Pursuant to Standing Order 110(1), Mr. Zed (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Orders in Council approving certain appointments made by the Governor General in Council, as follows: (1) P.C. 1995-1747 to P.C. 1995-1751, P.C. 1995-1758, P.C. 1995-1763 to P.C. 1995-1765, P.C. 1995-1910, P.C. 1995-1917 to P.C. 1995-1919, P.C. 1995-2021 to P.C. 1995-2029, P.C. 1995-2044, P.C. 1995-2045, P.C. 1995-2073 to P.C. 1995-2076, P.C. 1995-2155 to P.C. 1995-2158, P.C. 1996-2, P.C. 1996-3, P.C. 1996-41 and P.C. 1996-42. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-352-16. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Human Resources Development)

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(2) P.C. 1995-1752, P.C. 1995-1852, P.C. 1995-1853, P.C. 1995-1916, P.C. 1995-2030, P.C. 1995-2031, P.C. 1995-2164, P.C. 1996-44, P.C. 1996-62 to P.C. 1996-65, P.C. 1996-114, P.C. 1996-124 and P.C. 1996-184. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-352-4. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Government Operations)

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(3) P.C. 1995-1753, P.C. 1995-1930, P.C. 1995-1931, P.C. 1995-2034, P.C. 1996-50 to P.C. 1996-52 and P.C. 1996-130 to P.C. 1996-132. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-352-5. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs)

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(4) P.C. 1995-1756, P.C. 1996-7 to P.C. 1996-9 and P.C. 1996-54. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-352-18. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Health)

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(5) P.C. 1995-1757, P.C. 1995-1775, P.C. 1995-1939, P.C. 1995-2176 and P.C. 1996-58. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-352-6. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Natural Resources)

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(6) P.C. 1995-1759 and P.C. 1995-2041. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-352-12. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Human Rights and the Status of Persons with Disabilities)

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(7) P.C. 1995-1760, P.C. 1995-1848, P.C. 1995-2083, P.C. 1995-2184 to P.C. 1995-2189, P.C. 1996-11 to P.C. 1996-14, P.C. 1996-66 to P.C. 1996-68, P.C. 1996-70, and P.C. 1996-71. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-352-24. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Transport)

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(8) P.C. 1995-1776, P.C. 1995-1777, P.C. 1995-1857, P.C. 1995-2036, P.C. 1995-2038, P.C. 1995-2082, P.C. 1995-2177 to P.C. 1995-2182, P.C. 1996-28, P.C. 1996-29, P.C. 1996-59 to P.C. 1996-61 and P.C. 1996-156. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-352-8. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs and International Trade)

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(9) P.C. 1995-1779. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-352-10. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Fisheries and Oceans)

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(10) P.C. 1995-1854 to P.C. 1995-1856, P.C. 1995-1925 to P.C. 1995-1928, P.C. 1995-2032, P.C. 1995-2033, P.C. 1995-2078 to P.C. 1995-2081, P.C. 1995-2165 and P.C. 1996-45 to P.C. 1996-49. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-352-3. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage)

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(11) P.C. 1995-1905 to P.C. 1995-1907, P.C. 1995-2154, P.C. 1996-55 to P.C. 1996-57, P.C. 1996-133 and P.C. 1996-134. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-352-9. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Finance)

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(12) P.C. 1995-1913, P.C. 1995-1915 and P.C. 1995-1932 to P.C. 1995-1938. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-352-14. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Citizenship and Immigration)

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(13) P.C. 1995-1929, P.C. 1995-2166 to P.C. 1995-2171, P.C. 1996-1 and P.C. 1996-6. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-352-2. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Agriculture and Agri-Food)

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(14) P.C. 1995-2035, P.C. 1995-2037, P.C. 1995-2173 to P.C. 1995-2175 and P.C. 1996-53. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-352-22. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Industry)

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(15) P.C. 1995-2152. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-352-17. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on National Defence and Veterans Affairs)

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(16) P.C. 1995-2172. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-352-1. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Aboriginal Affairs and Northern Development)

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Mr. Zed (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) for Mr. Gray (Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Certificate of Nomination of Judith Snider, member of the National Energy Board, pursuant to Standing Order 110(2). -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-352-6A. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Natural Resources)

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Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Zed (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to the following petitions: (1) Nos. 351-3795, 351-3879 and 351-3945 concerning Indian Affairs. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-352-1; (2) No. 351-3859 concerning sex offenders. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-352-2; (3) No. 351-3894 concerning landmines. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-352-3; (4) Nos. 351-3986 to 351-3988 concerning the Canadian Forces Bases. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-352-4; (5) Nos. 351-3997 and 351-3998 concerning the environmental disaster in Guyana. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-352-5.

The Speaker laid upon the Table, -- Report of the Chief Electoral Officer of Canada entitled "Canada's Electoral System -- Strengthening the Foundation", pursuant to the Canada Elections Act, R. S. 1985, c. E-2, sbs. 195(3). -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-352-4. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs)

Presenting Reports from Inter-parliamentary Delegations

Mr. Patry (Pierrefonds -- Dollard) presented, pursuant to Standing Order 34(1), the Report of the Canadian Branch of the Assemblée internationale des parlementaires de langue française (AIPLF) respecting its participation at the meeting of the AIPLF Bureau held in Hanoi, Vietnam, on February 4 and 5, 1996. -- Sessional Paper No. 8565-352-52.

Introduction of Government Bills

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Rock (Minister of Justice), seconded by Mr. Chan (Secretary of State (Asia-Pacific)), Bill C-2, An Act to amend the Judges Act, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Introduction of Private Members' Bills

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Harris (Prince George -- Bulkley Valley), seconded by Mr. Crawford (Kent), Bill C-201, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (operation while impaired), was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

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Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. McTeague (Ontario), seconded by Mr. Wappel (Scarborough West), Bill C-202, An Act respecting a National Organ Donor Day in Canada, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

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Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Ménard (Hochelaga -- Maisonneuve), seconded by Mr. Pomerleau (Anjou -- Rivière-des-Prairies), Bill C-203, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (criminal organization), was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

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Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Szabo (Mississauga South), seconded by Mr. Wappel (Scarborough West), Bill C-204, An Act to amend the Canada Business Corporations Act (qualifications of directors), was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

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Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Wappel (Scarborough West), seconded by Mr. Crawford (Kent), Bill C-205, An Act to amend the Criminal Code and the Copyright Act (profit from authorship respecting a crime), was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

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Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Wappel (Scarborough West), seconded by Mr. Crawford (Kent), Bill C-206, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (offence committed outside Canada), was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

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Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Wappel (Scarborough West), seconded by Mr. Crawford (Kent), Bill C-207, An Act to amend the Canadian Security Intelligence Service Act (recommendations of the Review Committee), was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

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Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Wappel (Scarborough West), seconded by Mr. Crawford (Kent), Bill C-208, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (human being), was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

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Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Wappel (Scarborough West), seconded by Mr. Crawford (Kent), Bill C-209, An Act to amend the Consumer Packaging and Labelling Act (nutritional value of food), was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

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Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Wappel (Scarborough West), seconded by Mr. Crawford (Kent), Bill C-210, An Act to amend the Canada Elections Act (review of nomination papers), was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Presenting Petitions

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were presented as follows:

-- by Mr. Harb (Ottawa Centre), one concerning the tax system (No. 352- 0001);

-- by Mr. Ménard (Hochelaga -- Maisonneuve), nine concerning criminal organizations (Nos. 352-0002 to 352-0010);

-- by Mr. Harris (Prince George -- Bulkley Valley), one concerning impaired driving (No. 352-0011);

-- by Mr. Szabo (Mississauga South), one concerning the income tax system (No. 352-0012), one concerning alcoholic beverages (No. 352-0013) and one concerning abortion (No. 352-0014);

-- by Mr. Ringma (Nanaimo -- Cowichan), one concerning the Criminal Code of Canada (No. 352-0015);

-- by Miss Grey (Beaver River), one concerning the tax system (No. 352- 0016);

-- by Mr. Wappel (Scarborough West), one concerning euthanasia (No. 352- 0017).

ADDRESS IN REPLY TO THE SPEECH FROM THE THRONE

The House resumed debate on the motion of Mrs. Sheridan (Saskatoon -- Humboldt), seconded by Mr. Bélanger (Ottawa -- Vanier), -- That the following Address be presented to His Excellency the Governor General of Canada:

To His Excellency the Right Honourable Roméo A. LeBlanc, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council for Canada, Chancellor and Principal Companion of the Order of Canada, Chancellor and Commander of the Order of Military Merit, Governor General and Commander-in-Chief of Canada.

MAY IT PLEASE YOUR EXCELLENCY:

We, Her Majesty's most loyal and dutiful subjects, the House of Commons of Canada, in Parliament assembled, beg leave to offer our humble thanks to Your Excellency for the gracious Speech which Your Excellency has addressed to both Houses of Parliament.;

And on the amendment of Mr. Gauthier (Roberval), seconded by Mr. Duceppe (Laurier -- Sainte-Marie), -- That the following words be added to the Address:

"This House deplores that Your Excellency's advisers have demonstrated a lack of vision in the face of the fundamental issues confronting Canada and Quebec, such as job creation, better administration of public funds, the re-establishment of fiscal justice for all, the recognition of Montreal as the economic hub of Quebec society, the need to protect Quebec culture;

And show a lack of sensitivity toward the poor by proposing a reform of the social programs that strikes at those who are unemployed or on welfare, as well as seniors and students;

And show a total lack of understanding of the referendum results.";

And on the sub-amendment of Miss Grey (Beaver River), seconded by Mr. Speaker (Lethbridge), -- That the amendment be amended by adding the following:

"and in particular does not address:

providing more personal security;

the need to effectively reduce the budget deficit;

simplifying the tax system and balancing the budget;

greater personal social security by providing a permanent and stable source of social program funding in the areas of health, education and social assistance;

greater public safety;

understanding the need to communicate to Quebec honestly and openly what will be the stance of the rest of Canada concerning separation;

understanding the need to pledge their unconditional commitment to protect and defend our rights and freedoms as Canadians wanting to remain Canadians in Quebec both before and after a possible Yes vote in the future."

The debate continued.

STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

ORAL QUESTIONS

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

ADDRESS IN REPLY TO THE SPEECH FROM THE THRONE

Debate resumed on the motion of Mrs. Sheridan (Saskatoon -- Humboldt), seconded by Mr. Bélanger (Ottawa -- Vanier);

And on the amendment of Mr. Gauthier (Roberval), seconded by Mr. Duceppe (Laurier -- Sainte-Marie);

And on the sub-amendment of Miss Grey (Beaver River), seconded by Mr. Speaker (Lethbridge).

The debate continued.

At 6:15 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 50(5), the Speaker interrupted the proceedings.

The question was put on the sub-amendment and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 3)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Chatters -- Epp -- Grey --  (Beaver River) -- Grubel -- Harper --  (Calgary West/Ouest) -- Harris -- Hart -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- McClelland --  (Edmonton Southwest/Sud-Ouest) -- Meredith -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Penson -- Ramsay -- Ringma -- Schmidt -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- Silye -- 19

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Allmand -- Anderson -- Arseneault -- Assadourian -- Asselin -- Augustine -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre/Sud-Centre) -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bélisle -- Bellehumeur -- Bertrand -- Bethel -- Bevilacqua -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Boudria -- Brien -- Brushett -- Bryden -- Calder -- Campbell -- Cannis -- Canuel -- Caron -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Chrétien --  (Saint-Maurice) -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Collins -- Copps -- Cowling -- Crawford -- Crête -- Culbert -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Deshaies -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dingwall -- Dromisky -- Dubé -- Duceppe -- Duhamel -- Dumas -- Dupuy -- Easter -- Eggleton -- English -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon --  (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine) -- Gallaway -- Gerrard -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Gray --  (Windsor West/Ouest) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Guay -- Harb -- Harper --  (Churchill) -- Harvard -- Hickey -- Hopkins -- Iftody -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Karygiannis -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Laurin -- LeBlanc --  (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Leblanc --  (Longueuil) -- Lee -- Lefebvre -- Leroux --  (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Lincoln -- Loney -- MacAulay -- MacDonald -- MacLellan --  (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The Sydneys) -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McLellan --  (Edmonton Northwest/Nord-Ouest) -- McTeague -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murphy -- Nault -- Nunez -- O'Brien -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Paré -- Parrish -- Patry -- Payne -- Peric -- Peters -- Peterson -- Pickard --  (Essex -- Kent) -- Pillitteri -- Pomerleau -- Proud -- Reed -- Regan -- Robichaud -- Robillard -- Rock -- Scott --  (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Sheridan -- Simmons -- Skoke -- St-Laurent -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- Szabo -- Thalheimer -- Torsney -- Tremblay --  (Rosemont) -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Verran -- Volpe -- Walker -- Wappel -- Wells -- Whelan -- Wood -- Young -- Zed -- 164

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Anawak -- Asselin -- Bachand -- Bergeron -- Bernier --  (Mégantic - Compton - Stanstead) -- Caccia -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac) -- Clancy -- Daviault -- de Savoye -- Discepola -- Fewchuk -- Gaffney -- Gagnon --  (Québec) -- Lavigne --  (Verdun -- Saint-Paul) -- Loubier -- McKinnon -- McWhinney -- Paradis -- Plamondon -- Rideout -- Sauvageau -- Speller -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Témiscouata)

RETURNS AND REPORTS DEPOSITED WITH THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(1), a paper deposited with the Clerk of the House was laid upon the Table as follows:

-- by Mr. Goodale (Minister of Agriculture and Agri-Food) -- Reports of the Department of Agriculture for the period ended March 31, 1995, pursuant to the Access to Information Act and to the Privacy Act, R. S. 1985 c. A-1 and P-21, sbs. 72(2). -- Sessional Paper No. 8561-352-705. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs)

ADJOURNMENT

At 6:42 p.m., the Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow at 10:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).

CORRIGENDUM

(Journals No. 1 for Tuesday, February 27, 1996)

At page 1, the second heading and entry should read as follows:

OPENING OF THE SESSION

The Speaker informed the House that His Excellency the Governor General will arrive at the Senate Speaker's Entrance at 1:50 p.m., and, when it has been indicated that all is in readiness, His Excellency will proceed to the Senate to formally open the Second Session of the Thirty- Fifth Parliament.

A Message was received from His Excellency the Governor General desiring the immediate attendance of the House in the Senate.

Accordingly, the Speaker, with the House, proceeded to the Senate.

The Commons returned to the Chamber.