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HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA
35th PARLIAMENT, 2nd SESSION

JOURNALS

No. 42

Wednesday, May 8, 1996

2:00 p.m.

The Clerk informed the House of the unavoidable absence of the Speaker.

Thereupon, Mr. Kilger (Stormont -- Dundas), Deputy Chairman of Committees of the Whole, took the Chair, pursuant to Standing Order 8.

PRAYERS

NATIONAL ANTHEM

STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

ORAL QUESTIONS

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

BOARD OF INTERNAL ECONOMY

The Acting Speaker informed the House that, pursuant to the Act to amend the Parliament of Canada Act, Chapter 42 (1st Supp.), Revised Statutes of Canada, 1985, Mr. Silye, (Calgary Centre), has been appointed a Member of the Board of Internal Economy to replace Mr. Ringma (Nanaimo -- Cowichan).

DAILY ROUTINE OF BUSINESS

Tabling of Documents

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Zed (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to the following petitions: (1) Nos. 351-4041, 352-4121, 351-4122 and 351-4134 concerning the Young Offenders Act. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-351-25B; (2) Nos. 351-3874 and 351-3944 concerning government studies. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-351-57; (3) Nos. 351-3974 and 351-3975 concerning training programs. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-351-58.

Presenting Reports from Committees

Mr. Alcock (Winnipeg South), from the Standing Committee on Transport, presented the 1st Report of the Committee (Bill C-20, An Act respecting the commercialization of civil air navigation services, with amendments). -- Sessional Paper No. 8510- 352-7.

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings (Issue No. 1, which includes this Report) was tabled.

Motions

By unanimous consent, it was ordered, -- That the Sub- committee on HIV/AIDS be authorized to send one Member and a researcher to the X1th Conference on AIDS to be held in Vancouver, B.C., July 6 to 12, 1996.

Presenting Petitions

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were presented as follows:

-- by Mrs. Terrana (Vancouver East), three concerning the tax on gasoline (Nos. 352-0356 to 352-0358);

-- by Mr. Stinson (Okanagan -- Shuswap), one concerning sexual orientation (No. 352-0359);

-- by Mrs. Wayne (Saint John), one concerning sexual orientation (No. 352-0360);

-- by Mrs. Jennings (Mission -- Coquitlam), one concerning sexual orientation (No. 352-0361);

-- by Mr. Strahl (Fraser Valley East), five concerning sexual orientation (Nos. 352-0362 to 352-0366);

-- by Mr. Crête (Kamouraska -- Rivière-du-Loup), three concerning the unemployment insurance program (Nos. 352-0367 to 352-0369);

-- by Mr. Axworthy (Saskatoon -- Clark's Crossing), two concerning gasoline pricing (Nos. 352-0370 and 352-0371);

-- by Mrs. Gaffney (Nepean), one concerning the tax on gasoline (No. 352-0372) and two concerning impaired driving (Nos. 352-0373 and 352-0374);

-- by Mr. DeVillers (Simcoe North), one concerning sexual orientation (No. 352- 0375);

-- by Ms. Skoke (Central Nova), one concerning sexual orientation (No. 352-0376);

-- by Mr. Vanclief (Prince Edward -- Hastings), one concerning sexual orientation (No. 352-0378) and one concerning Christianity (No. 352-0379);

-- by Ms. Torsney (Burlington), one concerning sexual orientation (No. 352-0380);

-- by Mr. Szabo (Mississauga South), one concerning the income tax system (No. 352-0381) and one concerning alcoholic beverages (No. 352-0382);

-- by Mr. O'Brien (London -- Middlesex), one concerning sexual orientation (No. 352-0384);

-- by Mr. O'Reilly (Victoria -- Haliburton), one concerning impaired driving (No. 352-0384).

Questions on Order Paper

Mr. Zed (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) presented the answer to question Q-1 on the Order Paper.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

Notice having been given at a previous sitting under the provisions of Standing Order 78(3), Mr. Gagliano (Minister of Labour and Deputy Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), seconded by Mr. Robichaud (Secretary of State (Agriculture and Agri-Food, Fisheries and Oceans)), moved, -- That, in relation to Bill C-33, An Act to amend the Canadian Human Rights Act, not more than one further sitting day shall be allotted to the consideration of the report stage of the Bill and one sitting day shall be allotted to the third reading stage of the said bill; and,

That, fifteen minutes before the expiry of the time provided for Government Business on the day allotted to the consideration of the report stage and on the day allotted to the third reading stage of the said Bill, any proceedings before the House shall be interrupted, if required, for the purpose of this Order and, in turn, every question necessary for the disposal of the stage of the Bill then under consideration shall be put forthwith and successively, without further debate or amendment.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 55)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy -- (Winnipeg South Centre/Sud-Centre) -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bernier -- (Beauce) -- Bertrand -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Boudria -- Brown -- (Oakville -- Milton) -- Brushett -- Bryden -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Calder -- Campbell -- Cannis -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chrétien -- (Saint-Maurice) -- Clancy -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Cowling -- Crawford -- Culbert -- Cullen -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Dupuy -- Easter -- English -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Flis -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gaffney -- Gagliano -- Gallaway -- Gerrard -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Graham -- Grose -- Harb -- Harper -- (Churchill) -- Harvard -- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Jordan -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lavigne -- (Verdun -- Saint-Paul) -- Lee -- Lincoln -- Loney -- MacAulay -- MacDonald -- MacLellan -- (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The Sydneys) -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marleau -- Martin -- (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKinnon -- McLellan -- (Edmonton Northwest/Nord-Ouest) -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murphy -- Murray -- Nault -- O'Brien -- (London - Middlesex) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Payne -- Peric -- Peters -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Pickard -- (Essex -- Kent) -- Proud -- Reed -- Regan -- Rideout -- Robichaud -- Robillard -- Rock -- Scott -- (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Simmons -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart -- (Brant) -- Stewart -- (Northumberland) -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Thalheimer -- Torsney -- Ur -- Vanclief -- Verran -- Wells -- Whelan -- Wood -- Young -- Zed -- 136

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Althouse -- Asselin -- Axworthy -- (Saskatoon -- Clark's Crossing) -- Bachand -- Bélisle -- Bellehumeur -- Benoit -- Bergeron -- Bernier -- (Gaspé) -- Bhaduria -- Blaikie -- Breitkreuz -- (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz -- (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Bridgman -- Canuel -- Chrétien -- (Frontenac) -- Crête -- Cummins -- Daviault -- Deshaies -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Duncan -- Epp -- Fillion -- Frazer -- Gauthier -- Gilmour -- Godin -- Grey -- (Beaver River) -- Grubel -- Guay -- Guimond -- Hanger -- Hanrahan -- Harper -- (Calgary West/Ouest) -- Harper -- (Simcoe Centre) -- Hart -- Hermanson -- Hill -- (Macleod) -- Hill -- (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Jacob -- Jennings -- Lalonde -- Langlois -- Laurin -- Lavigne -- (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- Leblanc -- (Longueuil) -- Leroux -- (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Leroux -- (Shefford) -- Loubier -- Manning -- Marchand -- Mayfield -- McClelland -- (Edmonton Southwest/Sud-Ouest) -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Meredith -- Morrison -- Nunez -- Paré -- Penson -- Picard -- (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Pomerleau -- Ramsay -- Ringma -- Sauvageau -- Schmidt -- Scott -- (Skeena) -- Silye -- Solberg -- Speaker -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Taylor -- Thompson -- Tremblay -- (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay -- (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Tremblay -- (Rosemont) -- Wayne -- White -- (Fraser Valley West/Ouest) -- White -- (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- 87

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Arseneault -- Bellemare -- Bernier -- (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Brien -- Caron -- Chan -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Dingwall -- Dubé -- Duhamel -- Gagnon -- (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine) -- Gagnon -- (Québec) -- Landry -- Lefebvre -- Marchi -- Pagtakhan -- Rocheleau -- Sheridan -- St-Laurent -- Valeri -- Walker

The House resumed consideration at report stage of Bill C-33, An Act to amend the Canadian Human Rights Act, as reported by the Standing Committee on Human Rights and the Status of Persons with Disabilities without amendment;

And of the motions in Group No.1 (Motions Nos. 1, 9 to 15 and 18).

Group No. 1

Mr. Bryden (Hamilton -- Wentworth), seconded by Mr. Szabo (Mississauga South), moved Motion No. 1, -- That Bill C-33, in the Preamble, be amended by replacing lines 2 and 3, on page 1, with the following:

"firms the dignity and worth of every individual and recognizes that every individual has the right to be".

Ms. Guarnieri (Mississauga East), seconded by Mr. Szabo (Mississauga South), moved Motion No. 9, -- That Bill C-33, in Clause 1, be amended by adding after line 33, on page 1, the following:

"2.1 Nothing in sections 2 or 3 shall be construed so as to render any provision of the Criminal Code inoperative or of no force or effect."

Mr. McClelland (Edmonton Southwest), seconded by Mr. Solberg (Medicine Hat), moved Motion No.10, -- That Bill C-33, in Clause 1, be amended by adding after line 33, on page 1, the following:

"2.1 The teaching and hiring practices of religious institutions shall not be considered a prohibited act of discrimination for the purposes of sections 2 or 3 provided that such practices are consistent with the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms."

Mrs. Hayes (Port Moody -- Coquitlam), seconded by Mr. Strahl (Fraser Valley East), moved Motion No.11, -- That Bill C-33, in Clause 1, be amended by adding after line 33, on page 1, the following:

"2.1 The reference to "sexual orientation'' in sections 2 and 3, shall not be construed so as to amend the meaning assigned in any Act of Parliament to the terms "marriage'', "family'' or "spouse''."

Mrs. Hayes (Port Moody -- Coquitlam), seconded by Mr. Strahl (Fraser Valley East), moved Motion No.12, -- That Bill C-33, in Clause 1, be amended by adding after line 33, on page 1, the following:

"2.1 The reference to ``sexual orientation'' in sections 2 and 3, shall not be construed so as to affect freedom of religion, expression or association as guaranteed by the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms."

Mrs. Hayes (Port Moody -- Coquitlam), seconded by Mr. Strahl (Fraser Valley East), moved Motion No. 13, -- That Bill C-33, in Clause 1, be amended by adding after line 33, on page 1, the following:

"2.1 The reference to "sexual orientation" in sections 2 and 3 shall not be construed so as to render any provision of the Criminal Code inoperative or of no force or effect."

Mrs. Hayes (Port Moody -- Coquitlam), seconded by Mr. Strahl (Fraser Valley East), moved motion No. 14, -- That Bill C-33, in Clause 1, be amended by adding after line 33, on page 1, the following:

"2.1 Nothing in sections 2 or 3 shall be construed so as to authorize the extension of spousal or family benefits or entitlements funded and administered under any Act of Parliament to any person who cohabits with a person of the same sex in a relationship similar to a conjugal relationship."

Mrs. Hayes (Port Moody -- Coquitlam), seconded by Mr. Strahl (Fraser Valley East), moved Motion No. 15, -- That Bill C- 33, in Clause 1, be amended by adding after line 33, on page 1, the following:

"2.1 Nothing in sections 2 or 3 shall be construed so as to authorize the marriage of persons of the same sex."

Mr. Wappel (Scarborough West), seconded by Ms. Guarnieri (Mississauga East), moved Motion No. 18, -- That Bill C- 33, in Clause 2, be amended by adding after line 8, on page 2, the following:

"3.(2) For greater certainty, nothing in Sections 2 or 3 of this Act shall be construed by any court or tribunal in such a way as to add, read in, or include the words sexual orientation in Section 16 of this Act."

The debate continued on the motions in Group No. 1.

By unanimous consent, Motion No. 8, in Group No. 3, was withdrawn.

At 5:15 p.m., pursuant to Order made earlier today under the provisions of Standing Order 78(3), the Acting Speaker interrupted the proceedings.

The question was put on the Motion No. 1 and it was negatived on division.

The question was put on Motion No. 9 and pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred.

The question was put on Motion No. 10 and pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred.

The question was put on Motion No. 11 and pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred.

The question was put on Motion No. 12 and pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred.

The question was put on Motion No. 14 and pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred.

The question was put on Motion No. 18 and pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred.

Group No. 2

Mr. Wappel (Scarborough West), seconded by Mr. Szabo (Mississauga South), moved Motion No. 2, -- That Bill C-33, in the Preamble, be amended by replacing lines 8 to 12, on page 1, with the following:

"And Whereas the Government recognizes and affirms the importance of the traditional, heterosexual institution of marriage and family as the foundation of Canadian society and that nothing in this Act alters its fundamental role in society."

Mr. McClelland (Edmonton Southwest), seconded by Mr. Cummins (Delta), moved Motion No. 3, -- That Bill C-33, in the Preamble, be amended by adding after line 12, on page 1, the following:

"And Whereas the Government acknowledges that the term "family", for the purpose of this legislation, means heterosexual couples and their natural or adopted issue;

And Whereas the Government acknowledges that "family", as the term is so limited herein, occupies an irreplaceable role in the procreation and nurturing of children, upon which the future of our society depends;".

Ms. Guarnieri (Mississauga East), seconded by Mr. McTeague (Ontario), moved Motion No. 17, -- That Bill C-33, in Clause 2, be amended by adding after line 8, on page 2, the following:

"(1.1) In subsection (1), "marital status" means the status of being married, single, separated, divorced, widowed or cohabiting with an individual of the opposite sex in a conjugal relationship for at least one year.

(1.2) In subsection (1.1), ``being married'' means being married to a person of the opposite sex."

Mr. McClelland (Edmonton Southwest), seconded by Mr. Cummins (Delta), moved Motion No. 19, -- That Bill C-33, in Clause 2, be amended by adding after line 8, on page 2, the following:

"(1.1) For the purpose of section 2 and this section, "family status" means the status of heterosexual couples and their natural or adopted issue."

Mr. McClelland (Edmonton Southwest), seconded by Mr. Cummins (Delta), moved Motion No. 20, -- That Bill C-33, in Clause 2, be amended by adding after line 8, on page 2, the following:

"(1.1) For the purpose of section 2 and this section, "marital status" means the status of heterosexual couples."

Mrs. Hayes (Port Moody -- Coquitlam), seconded by Mr. Strahl (Fraser Valley East), moved Motion No. 21, -- That Bill C-33, in Clause 2, be amended by adding after line 8, on page 2, the following:

"(1.1) In this section and section 2, ``family'' means individuals connected by blood relationship, marriage or adoption.

(1.2) In subsection (1.1) "marriage'' means the legal union between a man and a woman as recognized by the state."

The question was put on Motion No. 2 and pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred.

The question was put on Motion No. 3 and pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred.

The question was put on Motion No. 17 and pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred.

The question was put on Motion No. 19 and pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred.

The question was put on Motion No. 21 and pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred.

Group No. 3

Mrs. Hayes (Port Moody -- Coquitlam), seconded by Mr. Strahl (Fraser Valley East), moved Motion No. 4, -- That Bill C-33, in Clause 1, be amended by deleting lines 17 to 33, on page 1.

Mr. Wappel (Scarborough West), seconded by Mr. Szabo (Mississauga South), moved Motion No. 5, -- That Bill C-33, in Clause 1, be amended

"2.(1) The purpose of this Act is to extend the";

"2.(2) For all purposes of this Act, sexual orientation means, only, heterosexuality, homosexuality or bisexuality and refers only to consenting adults acting within the law."

Mr. Wappel (Scarborough West), seconded by Mr. Szabo (Mississauga South), moved Motion No. 6, -- That Bill C-33, in Clause 1, be amended

"2.(1) The purpose of this Act is to extend the";

"2.(2) For all purposes of this Act, marital status and family status shall not be construed or interpreted by any court or tribunal so as to mean or include two or more unrelated persons of the same sex."

Mr. Wappel (Scarborough West), seconded by Mr. Szabo (Mississauga South), moved Motion No. 7, -- That Bill C-33, in Clause 1, be amended

"2.(1) The purpose of this Act is to extend the";

"2.(2) For greater certainty, nothing in Sections 2 or 3 of this Act shall be construed or interpreted by any court or tribunal in such a way as to grant or extend benefits available to persons of the opposite sex and related by marriage or at common law, to unrelated persons of the same sex living together, or to recognize as a family or as married, unrelated persons of the same sex."

Ms. Skoke (Central Nova), seconded by Mrs. Hayes (Port Moody -- Coquitlam), moved Motion No. 8A, -- That Bill C-33, in Clause 1, be amended by replacing lines 30 and 31, on page 1, with the following:

"origin, colour, religion, age, sex, marital status, family status, dis-".

Mrs. Hayes (Port Moody -- Coquitlam), seconded by Mr. Strahl (Fraser Valley East), moved Motion No. 16, -- That Bill C-33, in Clause 2, be amended by deleting lines 1 to 8, on page 2.

Ms. Skoke (Central Nova), seconded by Mrs. Hayes (Port Moody -- Coquitlam), moved Motion No. 16A, -- That Bill C-33, in Clause 2, be amended by replacing line 6, on page 2, with the following:

"sex, marital status, family".

The question was put on Motion No. 4 and pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred.

The question was put on Motion No. 5 and pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred.

The question was put on Motion No. 6 and pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred.

The question was put on Motion No. 7 and pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred.

The question was put on Motion No. 8A and pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred.

The question was put on Motion No. 16 and pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred.

The question was put on Motion No. 16A and pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred.

Pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded divisions at report stage of Bill C-33, An Act to amend the Canadian Human Rights Act, as reported by the Standing Committee on Human Rights and the Status of Persons with Disabilities without amendment.

Group No. 1

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 9 of Ms. Guarnieri (Mississauga East), seconded by Mr. Szabo (Mississauga South), That Bill C-33, in Clause 1, be amended by adding after line 33, on page 1, the following:

"2.1 Nothing in sections 2 or 3 shall be construed so as to render any provision of the Criminal Code inoperative or of no force or effect."

The question was put on the motion and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 56)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Benoit -- Bhaduria -- Breitkreuz -- (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz -- (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Bridgman -- Cummins -- Duncan -- Epp -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Gilmour -- Gouk -- Grey -- (Beaver River) -- Grubel -- Guarnieri -- Hanger -- Hanrahan -- Harper -- (Calgary West/Ouest) -- Harper -- (Simcoe Centre) -- Hart -- Hayes -- Hermanson -- Hill -- (Macleod) -- Hill -- (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Iftody -- Jennings -- Kerpan -- Manning -- Martin -- (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Mayfield -- McClelland -- (Edmonton Southwest/Sud-Ouest) -- McTeague -- Meredith -- Morrison -- Penson -- Ramsay -- Ringma -- Schmidt -- Scott -- (Skeena) -- Silye -- Solberg -- Speaker -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Thompson -- Wappel -- Wayne -- White -- (Fraser Valley West/Ouest) -- White -- (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- 53

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Allmand -- Althouse -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Asselin -- Augustine -- Axworthy -- (Winnipeg South Centre/Sud-Centre) -- Bachand -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellehumeur -- Bergeron -- Bernier -- (Beauce) -- Bernier -- (Gaspé) -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar -- Boudria -- Brown -- (Oakville -- Milton) -- Brushett -- Bryden -- Byrne -- Campbell -- Canuel -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chrétien -- (Saint-Maurice) -- Clancy -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Cowling -- Crête -- Culbert -- Cullen -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Daviault -- de Jong -- Deshaies -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dingwall -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Dupuy -- Easter -- Eggleton -- English -- Fillion -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Flis -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gaffney -- Gagliano -- Gallaway -- Gauthier -- Gerrard -- Godfrey -- Godin -- Goodale -- Graham -- Grose -- Guay -- Guimond -- Harb -- Harper -- (Churchill) -- Harvard -- Hickey -- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Jacob -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lalonde -- Langlois -- Laurin -- Lavigne -- (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- Lavigne -- (Verdun -- Saint-Paul) -- LeBlanc -- (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Lee -- Leroux -- (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Leroux -- (Shefford) -- Loney -- Loubier -- MacAulay -- MacDonald -- MacLellan -- (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The Sydneys) -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marchand -- Marleau -- Martin -- (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McCormick -- McKinnon -- McLaughlin -- McLellan -- (Edmonton Northwest/Nord-Ouest) -- McWhinney -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murphy -- Nault -- Nunez -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Paré -- Parrish -- Patry -- Payne -- Peters -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Picard -- (Drummond) -- Pickard -- (Essex -- Kent) -- Plamondon -- Pomerleau -- Proud -- Reed -- Regan -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Ringuette-Maltais -- Robichaud -- Robillard -- Robinson -- Rock -- Sauvageau -- Scott -- (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Shepherd -- Simmons -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Stewart -- (Brant) -- Stewart -- (Northumberland) -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Thalheimer -- Torsney -- Tremblay -- (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay -- (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Tremblay -- (Rosemont) -- Ur -- Vanclief -- Verran -- Wells -- Whelan -- Wood -- Young -- Zed -- 169

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

Accordingly, Motion No. 13 was also negatived on the same division.

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 10 of Mr. McClelland (Edmonton Southwest), seconded by Mr. Solberg (Medicine Hat), -- That Bill C- 33, in Clause 1, be amended by adding after line 33, on page 1, the following:

The question was put on the motion and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 57)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Benoit -- Bhaduria -- Breitkreuz -- (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz -- (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Bridgman -- Cummins -- Duncan -- Epp -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Gilmour -- Gouk -- Grey -- (Beaver River) -- Grubel -- Hanger -- Hanrahan -- Harper -- (Calgary West/Ouest) -- Harper -- (Simcoe Centre) -- Hart -- Hayes -- Hermanson -- Hill -- (Macleod) -- Hill -- (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Jennings -- Kerpan -- Manning -- Martin -- (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Mayfield -- McClelland -- (Edmonton Southwest/Sud-Ouest) -- McGuire -- Meredith -- Morrison -- Penson -- Ramsay -- Ringma -- Schmidt -- Scott -- (Skeena) -- Silye -- Solberg -- Speaker -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Thompson -- Wayne -- White -- (Fraser Valley West/Ouest) -- White -- (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- 50

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Allmand -- Althouse -- Anderson -- Assad -- Asselin -- Axworthy -- (Winnipeg South Centre/Sud-Centre) -- Bachand -- Bélair -- Bellehumeur -- Bergeron -- Bernier -- (Beauce) -- Bernier -- (Gaspé) -- Blondin-Andrew -- Boudria -- Canuel -- Cauchon -- Chrétien -- (Saint-Maurice) -- Clancy -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Crête -- Dalphond-Guiral -- de Jong -- Deshaies -- Dingwall -- Duceppe -- Dupuy -- Eggleton -- Fillion -- Finestone -- Flis -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gauthier -- Gerrard -- Goodale -- Guay -- Guimond -- Harvard -- Hopkins -- Irwin -- Jacob -- Keyes -- Lalonde -- Langlois -- Laurin -- Lavigne -- (Verdun -- Saint-Paul) -- Leroux -- (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Leroux -- (Shefford) -- Loney -- Loubier -- MacAulay -- MacDonald -- MacLellan -- (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The Sydneys) -- Manley -- Marchand -- Marleau -- Martin -- (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McLaughlin -- McLellan -- (Edmonton Northwest/Nord-Ouest) -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Nault -- Nunez -- Paré -- Peters -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Picard -- (Drummond) -- Pickard -- (Essex -- Kent) -- Reed -- Robichaud -- Robillard -- Robinson -- Rock -- Sauvageau -- Simmons -- Stewart -- (Brant) -- Stewart -- (Northumberland) -- Tremblay -- (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Young -- 82

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 11 of Mrs. Hayes (Port Moody -- Coquitlam), seconded by Mr. Strahl (Fraser Valley East), -- That Bill C-33, in Clause 1, be amended by adding after line 33, on page 1, the following:

"2.1 The reference to "sexual orientation'' in sections 2 and 3, shall not be construed so as to amend the meaning assigned in any Act of Parliament to the terms "marriage'', "`family'' or "spouse''."

The question was put on the motion and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 58)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Benoit -- Bhaduria -- Breitkreuz -- (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz -- (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Bridgman -- Cummins -- Duncan -- Epp -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Gilmour -- Gouk -- Grey -- (Beaver River) -- Grubel -- Hanger -- Hanrahan -- Harper -- (Calgary West/Ouest) -- Harper -- (Simcoe Centre) -- Hart -- Hayes -- Hermanson -- Hill -- (Macleod) -- Hill -- (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Jennings -- Kerpan -- Manning -- Martin -- (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Mayfield -- McClelland -- (Edmonton Southwest/Sud-Ouest) -- Meredith -- Morrison -- Penson -- Ramsay -- Ringma -- Schmidt -- Scott -- (Skeena) -- Silye -- Solberg -- Speaker -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Thompson -- Wayne -- White -- (Fraser Valley West/Ouest) -- White -- (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- 49

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Allmand -- Althouse -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Asselin -- Augustine -- Axworthy -- (Winnipeg South Centre/Sud-Centre) -- Bachand -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellehumeur -- Bergeron -- Bernier -- (Beauce) -- Bernier -- (Gaspé) -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar -- Boudria -- Brown -- (Oakville -- Milton) -- Brushett -- Bryden -- Byrne -- Campbell -- Canuel -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chrétien -- (Saint-Maurice) -- Clancy -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Cowling -- Crête -- Culbert -- Cullen -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Daviault -- de Jong -- Deshaies -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dingwall -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Dupuy -- Easter -- Eggleton -- English -- Fillion -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Flis -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gaffney -- Gagliano -- Gallaway -- Gauthier -- Gerrard -- Godfrey -- Godin -- Goodale -- Graham -- Grose -- Guay -- Guimond -- Harb -- Harper -- (Churchill) -- Harvard -- Hickey -- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Jacob -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lalonde -- Langlois -- Laurin -- Lavigne -- (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- LeBlanc -- (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Lee -- Leroux -- (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Leroux -- (Shefford) -- Loney -- Loubier -- MacAulay -- MacDonald -- MacLellan -- (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The Sydneys) -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marchand -- Marleau -- Martin -- (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McCormick -- McKinnon -- McLaughlin -- McLellan -- (Edmonton Northwest/Nord-Ouest) -- McWhinney -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murphy -- Nault -- Nunez -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Paré -- Parrish -- Patry -- Payne -- Peters -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Picard -- (Drummond) -- Pickard -- (Essex -- Kent) -- Plamondon -- Pomerleau -- Proud -- Reed -- Regan -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Ringuette-Maltais -- Robichaud -- Robillard -- Robinson -- Rock -- Sauvageau -- Scott -- (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Shepherd -- Simmons -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Stewart -- (Brant) -- Stewart -- (Northumberland) -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Thalheimer -- Torsney -- Tremblay -- (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay -- (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Tremblay -- (Rosemont) -- Ur -- Vanclief -- Verran -- Wells -- Whelan -- Wood -- Young -- Zed -- 169

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

Accordingly, Motion No. 15 was also negatived on the same division.

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 12 of Mrs. Hayes (Port Moody -- Coquitlam), seconded by Mr. Strahl (Fraser Valley East), -- That Bill C-33, in Clause 1, be amended by adding after line 33, on page 1, the following:

The question was put on the motion and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 59)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Benoit -- Bhaduria -- Breitkreuz -- (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz -- (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Bridgman -- Cummins -- Duncan -- Epp -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Gilmour -- Gouk -- Grey -- (Beaver River) -- Grubel -- Hanger -- Hanrahan -- Harper -- (Calgary West/Ouest) -- Harper -- (Simcoe Centre) -- Hart -- Hayes -- Hermanson -- Hill -- (Macleod) -- Hill -- (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Jennings -- Kerpan -- Manning -- Martin -- (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Mayfield -- McClelland -- (Edmonton Southwest/Sud-Ouest) -- Meredith -- Morrison -- Penson -- Ramsay -- Ringma -- Schmidt -- Scott -- (Skeena) -- Silye -- Solberg -- Speaker -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Thompson -- Wayne -- White -- (Fraser Valley West/Ouest) -- White -- (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- 49

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Allmand -- Althouse -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Asselin -- Augustine -- Axworthy -- (Winnipeg South Centre/Sud-Centre) -- Bachand -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellehumeur -- Bergeron -- Bernier -- (Beauce) -- Bernier -- (Gaspé) -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar -- Boudria -- Brown -- (Oakville -- Milton) -- Brushett -- Bryden -- Byrne -- Campbell -- Canuel -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chrétien -- (Saint-Maurice) -- Clancy -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Cowling -- Crête -- Culbert -- Cullen -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Daviault -- de Jong -- Deshaies -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dingwall -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Dupuy -- Easter -- Eggleton -- English -- Fillion -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Flis -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gaffney -- Gagliano -- Gallaway -- Gauthier -- Gerrard -- Godfrey -- Godin -- Goodale -- Graham -- Grose -- Guay -- Guimond -- Harb -- Harper -- (Churchill) -- Harvard -- Hickey -- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Jacob -- Jordan -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lalonde -- Langlois -- Laurin -- Lavigne -- (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- LeBlanc -- (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Lee -- Leroux -- (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Leroux -- (Shefford) -- Loney -- Loubier -- MacAulay -- MacDonald -- MacLellan -- (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The Sydneys) -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marchand -- Marleau -- Martin -- (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKinnon -- McLaughlin -- McLellan -- (Edmonton Northwest/Nord-Ouest) -- McWhinney -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murphy -- Nault -- Nunez -- O'Brien -- (London -- Middlesex) -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Paré -- Parrish -- Patry -- Payne -- Peters -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Picard -- (Drummond) -- Pickard -- (Essex -- Kent) -- Plamondon -- Pomerleau -- Proud -- Reed -- Regan -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Ringuette-Maltais -- Robichaud -- Robillard -- Robinson -- Rock -- Sauvageau -- Scott -- (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Shepherd -- Simmons -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Stewart -- (Brant) -- Stewart -- (Northumberland) -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Thalheimer -- Torsney -- Tremblay -- (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay -- (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Tremblay -- (Rosemont) -- Ur -- Vanclief -- Verran -- Wells -- Whelan -- Wood -- Young -- Zed -- 172

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 14 of Mrs. Hayes (Port Moody -- Coquitlam), seconded by Mr. Strahl (Fraser Valley East), -- That Bill C-33, in Clause 1, be amended by adding after line 33, on page 1, the following:

The question was put on the motion and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 60)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Benoit -- Bhaduria -- Breitkreuz -- (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz -- (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Bridgman -- Cummins -- Duncan -- Epp -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Gilmour -- Gouk -- Grey -- (Beaver River) -- Grubel -- Hanger -- Hanrahan -- Harper -- (Calgary West/Ouest) -- Harper -- (Simcoe Centre) -- Hart -- Hayes -- Hermanson -- Hill -- (Macleod) -- Hill -- (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Jennings -- Kerpan -- Manning -- Martin -- (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Mayfield -- McClelland -- (Edmonton Southwest/Sud-Ouest) -- Meredith -- Morrison -- Penson -- Ramsay -- Ringma -- Schmidt -- Scott -- (Skeena) -- Silye -- Solberg -- Speaker -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Thompson -- Wappel -- Wayne -- White -- (Fraser Valley West/Ouest) -- White -- (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- 50

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Allmand -- Althouse -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Asselin -- Augustine -- Axworthy -- (Winnipeg South Centre/Sud-Centre) -- Bachand -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellehumeur -- Bergeron -- Bernier -- (Beauce) -- Bernier -- (Gaspé) -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar -- Boudria -- Brown -- (Oakville -- Milton) -- Brushett -- Bryden -- Byrne -- Campbell -- Canuel -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chrétien -- (Saint-Maurice) -- Clancy -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Cowling -- Crête -- Culbert -- Cullen -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Daviault -- de Jong -- Deshaies -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dingwall -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Dupuy -- Easter -- Eggleton -- English -- Fillion -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Flis -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gaffney -- Gagliano -- Gallaway -- Gauthier -- Gerrard -- Godfrey -- Godin -- Graham -- Grose -- Guay -- Guimond -- Harb -- Harper -- (Churchill) -- Harvard -- Hickey -- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Jacob -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lalonde -- Langlois -- Laurin -- Lavigne -- (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- LeBlanc -- (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Leroux -- (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Leroux -- (Shefford) -- Loney -- Loubier -- MacAulay -- MacDonald -- MacLellan -- (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The Sydneys) -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marchand -- Marleau -- Martin -- (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McCormick -- McKinnon -- McLaughlin -- McLellan -- (Edmonton Northwest/Nord-Ouest) -- McWhinney -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murphy -- Nault -- Nunez -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Paré -- Parrish -- Patry -- Payne -- Peters -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Picard -- (Drummond) -- Pickard -- (Essex -- Kent) -- Plamondon -- Pomerleau -- Proud -- Reed -- Regan -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Ringuette-Maltais -- Robichaud -- Robillard -- Robinson -- Rock -- Sauvageau -- Scott -- (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Shepherd -- Simmons -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Stewart -- (Brant) -- Stewart -- (Northumberland) -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Thalheimer -- Torsney -- Tremblay -- (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay -- (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Tremblay -- (Rosemont) -- Ur -- Vanclief -- Verran -- Wells -- Whelan -- Wood -- Young -- Zed -- 167

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 18 of Mr. Wappel (Scarborough West), seconded by Ms. Guarnieri (Mississauga East), -- That Bill C-33, in Clause 2, be amended by adding after line 8, on page 2, the following:

The question was put on the motion and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 61)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Benoit -- Bhaduria -- Breitkreuz -- (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz -- (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Bridgman -- Cummins -- Duncan -- Epp -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Gilmour -- Gouk -- Grey -- (Beaver River) -- Grubel -- Guarnieri -- Hanger -- Hanrahan -- Harper -- (Calgary West/Ouest) -- Harper -- (Simcoe Centre) -- Hart -- Hayes -- Hermanson -- Hill -- (Macleod) -- Hill -- (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Jennings -- Kerpan -- Manning -- Martin -- (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Mayfield -- McClelland -- (Edmonton Southwest/Sud-Ouest) -- McTeague -- Meredith -- Morrison -- Penson -- Peric -- Ramsay -- Ringma -- Schmidt -- Scott -- (Skeena) -- Silye -- Skoke -- Solberg -- Speaker -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Thompson -- Wappel -- Wayne -- White -- (Fraser Valley West/Ouest) -- White -- (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- 54

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Asselin -- Augustine -- Axworthy -- (Winnipeg South Centre/Sud-Centre) -- Bachand -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellehumeur -- Bergeron -- Bernier -- (Beauce) -- Bernier -- (Gaspé) -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar -- Boudria -- Brown -- (Oakville -- Milton) -- Brushett -- Bryden -- Byrne -- Campbell -- Canuel -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chrétien -- (Saint-Maurice) -- Clancy -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Cowling -- Crête -- Culbert -- Cullen -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Daviault -- Deshaies -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dingwall -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Dupuy -- Easter -- Eggleton -- English -- Fillion -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Flis -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gaffney -- Gagliano -- Gallaway -- Gauthier -- Gerrard -- Godfrey -- Godin -- Goodale -- Graham -- Grose -- Guay -- Guimond -- Harb -- Harper -- (Churchill) -- Harvard -- Hickey -- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Jacob -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lalonde -- Langlois -- Laurin -- Lavigne -- (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- LeBlanc -- (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Leroux -- (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Leroux -- (Shefford) -- Loney -- Loubier -- MacAulay -- MacDonald -- MacLellan -- (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The Sydneys) -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marchand -- Marleau -- Martin -- (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McCormick -- McKinnon -- McLellan -- (Edmonton Northwest/Nord-Ouest) -- McWhinney -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murphy -- Nault -- Nunez -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Paré -- Parrish -- Patry -- Peters -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Picard -- (Drummond) -- Pickard -- (Essex -- Kent) -- Plamondon -- Pomerleau -- Proud -- Reed -- Regan -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Ringuette-Maltais -- Robichaud -- Robillard -- Rock -- Sauvageau -- Scott -- (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Shepherd -- Simmons -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Stewart -- (Brant) -- Stewart -- (Northumberland) -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Thalheimer -- Torsney -- Tremblay -- (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay -- (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Tremblay -- (Rosemont) -- Ur -- Vanclief -- Verran -- Wells -- Whelan -- Wood -- Young -- Zed -- 162

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

Group No. 2

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 2 of Mr. Wappel (Scarborough West), seconded by Mr. Szabo (Mississauga South), -- That Bill C- 33, in the Preamble, be amended by replacing lines 8 to 12, on page 1, with the following:

"And whereas the Government recognizes and affirms the importance of the traditional, heterosexual institution of marriage and family as the foundation of Canadian society and that nothing in this Act alters its fundamental role in society."

The question was put on the motion and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 62)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Bélair -- Bhaduria -- Breitkreuz -- (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz -- (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Bridgman -- Calder -- Comuzzi -- Cummins -- Duncan -- Epp -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Gilmour -- Gouk -- Grey -- (Beaver River) -- Grubel -- Guarnieri -- Hanger -- Hanrahan -- Harper -- (Calgary West/Ouest) -- Harper -- (Simcoe Centre) -- Hart -- Hayes -- Hermanson -- Hill -- (Macleod) -- Hill -- (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Jennings -- Jordan -- Kerpan -- Lee -- Manning -- Martin -- (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Mayfield -- McClelland -- (Edmonton Southwest/Sud-Ouest) -- McGuire -- McTeague -- Meredith -- Morrison -- O'Brien -- (London -- Middlesex) -- Penson -- Peric -- Ramsay -- Ringma -- Schmidt -- Scott -- (Skeena) -- Silye -- Skoke -- Solberg -- Speaker -- Steckle -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Thompson -- Ur -- Wappel -- Wayne -- White -- (Fraser Valley West/Ouest) -- White -- (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- 63

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Allmand -- Althouse -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Asselin -- Augustine -- Axworthy -- (Winnipeg South Centre/Sud-Centre) -- Bachand -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélanger -- Bellehumeur -- Bergeron -- Bernier -- (Beauce) -- Bernier -- (Gaspé) -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar -- Boudria -- Brown -- (Oakville -- Milton) -- Brushett -- Byrne -- Campbell -- Canuel -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chrétien -- (Saint-Maurice) -- Clancy -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Cowling -- Crête -- Culbert -- Cullen -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Daviault -- de Jong -- Deshaies -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dingwall -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Dupuy -- Easter -- Eggleton -- English -- Fillion -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gaffney -- Gagliano -- Gallaway -- Gauthier -- Gerrard -- Godfrey -- Godin -- Goodale -- Graham -- Grose -- Guay -- Guimond -- Harb -- Harper -- (Churchill) -- Harvard -- Hickey -- Hubbard -- Irwin -- Jacob -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lalonde -- Langlois -- Laurin -- Lavigne -- (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- LeBlanc -- (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Leroux -- (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Leroux -- (Shefford) -- Loney -- Loubier -- MacAulay -- MacDonald -- MacLellan -- (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The Sydneys) -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marchand -- Marleau -- Martin -- (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McCormick -- McKinnon -- McLaughlin -- McLellan -- (Edmonton Northwest/Nord-Ouest) -- McWhinney -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murphy -- Nault -- Nunez -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Paré -- Parrish -- Patry -- Payne -- Peters -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Picard -- (Drummond) -- Pickard -- (Essex -- Kent) -- Plamondon -- Pomerleau -- Proud -- Reed -- Regan -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Ringuette-Maltais -- Robichaud -- Robillard -- Robinson -- Rock -- Sauvageau -- Scott -- (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Shepherd -- Simmons -- St. Denis -- Stewart -- (Brant) -- Stewart -- (Northumberland) -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Thalheimer -- Torsney -- Tremblay -- (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay -- (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Tremblay -- (Rosemont) -- Vanclief -- Verran -- Wells -- Whelan -- Wood -- Young -- Zed -- 159

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 3 of Mr. McClelland (Edmonton Southwest), seconded by Mr. Cummins (Delta), -- That Bill C-33, in the Preamble, be amended by adding after line 12, on page 1, the following:

"And Whereas the Government acknowledges that the term "family", for the purpose of this legislation, means heterosexual couples and their natural or adopted issue;

The question was put on the motion and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 63)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Benoit -- Bhaduria -- Breitkreuz -- (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz -- (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Bridgman -- Cummins -- Duncan -- Epp -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Gilmour -- Gouk -- Grey -- (Beaver River) -- Grubel -- Hanger -- Hanrahan -- Harper -- (Calgary West/Ouest) -- Harper -- (Simcoe Centre) -- Hart -- Hayes -- Hermanson -- Hill -- (Macleod) -- Hoeppner -- Jennings -- Kerpan -- Manning -- Mayfield -- McClelland -- (Edmonton Southwest/Sud-Ouest) -- Meredith -- Morrison -- Penson -- Ramsay -- Ringma -- Schmidt -- Scott -- (Skeena) -- Silye -- Solberg -- Speaker -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Thompson -- Wayne -- White -- (Fraser Valley West/Ouest) -- White -- (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- 47

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Allmand -- Althouse -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Asselin -- Augustine -- Axworthy -- (Winnipeg South Centre/Sud-Centre) -- Bachand -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellehumeur -- Bergeron -- Bernier -- (Beauce) -- Bernier -- (Gaspé) -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar -- Boudria -- Brown -- (Oakville -- Milton) -- Brushett -- Bryden -- Byrne -- Campbell -- Canuel -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chrétien -- (Saint-Maurice) -- Clancy -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Cowling -- Crête -- Culbert -- Cullen -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Daviault -- de Jong -- Deshaies -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dingwall -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Dupuy -- Easter -- Eggleton -- English -- Fillion -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Flis -- Fry -- Gaffney -- Gagliano -- Gallaway -- Gauthier -- Gerrard -- Godfrey -- Godin -- Graham -- Grose -- Guay -- Guimond -- Harb -- Harper -- (Churchill) -- Harvard -- Hickey -- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Irwin -- Jacob -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lalonde -- Langlois -- Laurin -- Lavigne -- (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- LeBlanc -- (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Lee -- Leroux -- (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Leroux -- (Shefford) -- Loney -- Loubier -- MacAulay -- MacDonald -- MacLellan -- (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The Sydneys) -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marchand -- Marleau -- Martin -- (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Martin -- (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McCormick -- McKinnon -- McLaughlin -- McLellan -- (Edmonton Northwest/Nord-Ouest) -- McWhinney -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murphy -- Nault -- Nunez -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Paré -- Parrish -- Patry -- Payne -- Peters -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Picard -- (Drummond) -- Pickard -- (Essex -- Kent) -- Pomerleau -- Proud -- Reed -- Regan -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Ringuette-Maltais -- Robichaud -- Robillard -- Robinson -- Rock -- Sauvageau -- Scott -- (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Shepherd -- Simmons -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Stewart -- (Brant) -- Stewart -- (Northumberland) -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Thalheimer -- Torsney -- Tremblay -- (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay -- (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Tremblay -- (Rosemont) -- Ur -- Verran -- Wells -- Whelan -- Wood -- Young -- Zed -- 164

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 17 of Ms. Guarnieri (Mississauga East), seconded by Mr. McTeague (Ontario), -- That Bill C-33, in Clause 2, be amended by adding after line 8, on page 2, the following:

(1.2) In subsection (1.1), ``being married'' means being married to a person of the opposite sex."

The question was put on the motion and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 64)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Benoit -- Bhaduria -- Breitkreuz -- (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz -- (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Bridgman -- Calder -- Cummins -- Duncan -- Epp -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Gilmour -- Gouk -- Grey -- (Beaver River) -- Grubel -- Guarnieri -- Hanger -- Hanrahan -- Harper -- (Calgary West/Ouest) -- Harper -- (Simcoe Centre) -- Hart -- Hayes -- Hermanson -- Hill -- (Macleod) -- Hill -- (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Jennings -- Jordan -- Kerpan -- Manning -- Martin -- (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Mayfield -- McClelland -- (Edmonton Southwest/Sud-Ouest) -- McGuire -- McTeague -- Meredith -- Morrison -- O'Brien -- (London -- Middlesex) -- Penson -- Peric -- Ramsay -- Ringma -- Schmidt -- Scott -- (Skeena) -- Silye -- Solberg -- Speaker -- Steckle -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Thompson -- Wappel -- Wayne -- White -- (Fraser Valley West/Ouest) -- White -- (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- 59

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Allmand -- Althouse -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy -- (Winnipeg South Centre/Sud-Centre) -- Bakopanos -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bernier -- (Beauce) -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar -- Boudria -- Brown -- (Oakville -- Milton) -- Brushett -- Bryden -- Byrne -- Campbell -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chrétien -- (Saint-Maurice) -- Clancy -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Cowling -- Cullen -- de Jong -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Dupuy -- Easter -- Eggleton -- English -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Flis -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gaffney -- Gagliano -- Gallaway -- Gauthier -- Gerrard -- Godfrey -- Graham -- Grose -- Harb -- Harper -- (Churchill) -- Harvard -- Hickey -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Irwin -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Kraft Sloan -- LeBlanc -- (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Lee -- Loney -- MacAulay -- MacDonald -- Maloney -- Marleau -- Massé -- McCormick -- McKinnon -- McLaughlin -- McLellan -- (Edmonton Northwest/Nord-Ouest) -- McWhinney -- Ménard -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murphy -- Nault -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Peters -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Pickard -- (Essex -- Kent) -- Proud -- Reed -- Regan -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Ringuette-Maltais -- Robichaud -- Robillard -- Robinson -- Rock -- Scott -- (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Shepherd -- Simmons -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Stewart -- (Northumberland) -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Thalheimer -- Torsney -- Ur -- Vanclief -- Verran -- Wells -- Whelan -- Wood -- Young -- Zed -- 121

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

Accordingly, Motion No. 20 was also negatived on the same division.

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 19 of Mr. McClelland (Edmonton Southwest), seconded by Mr. Cummins (Delta), -- That Bill C-33, in Clause 2, be amended by adding after line 8, on page 2, the following:

"(1.1) For the purpose of section 2 and this section, "family status" means the status of heterosexual couples and their natural or adopted issue."

The question was put on the motion and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 65)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Bhaduria -- Breitkreuz -- (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz -- (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Bridgman -- Cummins -- Duncan -- Epp -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Gilmour -- Gouk -- Grey -- (Beaver River) -- Grubel -- Hanger -- Harper -- (Calgary West/Ouest) -- Harper -- (Simcoe Centre) -- Hart -- Hayes -- Hermanson -- Hill -- (Macleod) -- Hill -- (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Jennings -- Kerpan -- Manning -- Mayfield -- McClelland -- (Edmonton Southwest/Sud-Ouest) -- Meredith -- Penson -- Ramsay -- Ringma -- Schmidt -- Scott -- (Skeena) -- Silye -- Solberg -- Speaker -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Thompson -- Wayne -- White -- (Fraser Valley West/Ouest) -- White -- (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- 45

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Allmand -- Althouse -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy -- (Winnipeg South Centre/Sud-Centre) -- Bakopanos -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Benoit -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar -- Boudria -- Brown -- (Oakville -- Milton) -- Brushett -- Bryden -- Byrne -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Clancy -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Cowling -- Culbert -- Cullen -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Dupuy -- Easter -- Eggleton -- English -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Flis -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gaffney -- Gagliano -- Gallaway -- Gauthier -- Gerrard -- Godfrey -- Graham -- Grose -- Harb -- Harper -- (Churchill) -- Harvard -- Hickey -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- LeBlanc -- (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Lee -- Loney -- MacAulay -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marleau -- Martin -- (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Massé -- McCormick -- McKinnon -- McLaughlin -- McLellan -- (Edmonton Northwest/Nord-Ouest) -- McWhinney -- Ménard -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Morrison -- Murphy -- Nault -- Pagtakhan -- Parrish -- Patry -- Payne -- Peters -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Pickard -- (Essex -- Kent) -- Proud -- Reed -- Regan -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Ringuette-Maltais -- Robichaud -- Robillard -- Robinson -- Rock -- Scott -- (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Shepherd -- Simmons -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Stewart -- (Northumberland) -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Thalheimer -- Ur -- Vanclief -- Verran -- Wells -- Whelan -- Wood -- Young -- Zed -- 120

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 21 of Mrs. Hayes (Port Moody -- Coquitlam), seconded by Mr. Strahl (Fraser Valley East), -- That Bill C-33, in Clause 2, be amended by adding after line 8, on page 2, the following:

"(1.1) In this section and section 2, ``family'' means individuals connected by blood relationship, marriage or adoption.

(1.2) In subsection (1.1) "marriage'' means the legal union between a man and a woman as recognized by the state."

The question was put on the motion and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 66)

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Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Benoit -- Bhaduria -- Breitkreuz -- (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz -- (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Bridgman -- Cummins -- Duncan -- Epp -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Gilmour -- Gouk -- Grey -- (Beaver River) -- Grubel -- Hanger -- Harper -- (Calgary West/Ouest) -- Harper -- (Simcoe Centre) -- Hart -- Hayes -- Hermanson -- Hill -- (Macleod) -- Hill -- (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Jennings -- Kerpan -- Manning -- Martin -- (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Mayfield -- McClelland -- (Edmonton Southwest/Sud-Ouest) -- Meredith -- Morrison -- Penson -- Ramsay -- Ringma -- Schmidt -- Silye -- Solberg -- Speaker -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Thompson -- Wayne -- White -- (Fraser Valley West/Ouest) -- White -- (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- 47

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Allmand -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy -- (Winnipeg South Centre/Sud-Centre) -- Bakopanos -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bernier -- (Beauce) -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar -- Boudria -- Brown -- (Oakville -- Milton) -- Brushett -- Bryden -- Byrne -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Clancy -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Cowling -- Culbert -- Cullen -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Dupuy -- Easter -- Eggleton -- English -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Flis -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gaffney -- Gagliano -- Gallaway -- Gauthier -- Gerrard -- Godfrey -- Graham -- Grose -- Harb -- Harper -- (Churchill) -- Harvard -- Hickey -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- LeBlanc -- (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Lee -- Loney -- MacAulay -- MacDonald -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marleau -- Massé -- McCormick -- McKinnon -- McLellan -- (Edmonton Northwest/Nord-Ouest) -- McWhinney -- Ménard -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murphy -- Nault -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Payne -- Peters -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Pickard -- (Essex -- Kent) -- Proud -- Reed -- Regan -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Ringuette-Maltais -- Robichaud -- Robillard -- Rock -- Scott -- (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Shepherd -- Simmons -- St. Denis -- Stewart -- (Northumberland) -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Thalheimer -- Ur -- Vanclief -- Verran -- Wells -- Whelan -- Wood -- Young -- Zed -- 118

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

Group No. 3

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 4 of Mrs. Hayes (Port Moody -- Coquitlam), seconded by Mr. Strahl (Fraser Valley East), -- That Bill C-33, in Clause 1, be amended by deleting lines 17 to 33, on page 1.

The question was put on the motion and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 67)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Benoit -- Breitkreuz -- (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz -- (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Bridgman -- Cummins -- Duncan -- Epp -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Gilmour -- Gouk -- Grey -- (Beaver River) -- Grubel -- Hanger -- Hanrahan -- Harper -- (Calgary West/Ouest) -- Harper -- (Simcoe Centre) -- Hart -- Hayes -- Hermanson -- Hill -- (Macleod) -- Hill -- (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Jennings -- Kerpan -- Manning -- Mayfield -- McClelland -- (Edmonton Southwest/Sud-Ouest) -- Meredith -- Morrison -- Penson -- Ramsay -- Ringma -- Schmidt -- Scott -- (Skeena) -- Silye -- Solberg -- Speaker -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Thompson -- Wayne -- White -- (Fraser Valley West/Ouest) -- White -- (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- 47

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Allmand -- Althouse -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy -- (Winnipeg South Centre/Sud-Centre) -- Bakopanos -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bhaduria -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar -- Cauchon -- Clancy -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Cowling -- de Jong -- DeVillers -- Discepola -- Dupuy -- Eggleton -- Finestone -- Flis -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gauthier -- Gerrard -- Godfrey -- Harb -- Harper -- (Churchill) -- Harvard -- Hickey -- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Kraft Sloan -- Lee -- Loney -- MacAulay -- MacDonald -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marleau -- Massé -- McCormick -- McKinnon -- McLaughlin -- McLellan -- (Edmonton Northwest/Nord-Ouest) -- McWhinney -- Ménard -- Mifflin -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murphy -- Nault -- O'Brien -- (London -- Middlesex) -- Parrish -- Patry -- Payne -- Peters -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Pickard -- (Essex -- Kent) -- Proud -- Reed -- Regan -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Robichaud -- Robillard -- Robinson -- Rock -- Scott -- (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Shepherd -- Simmons -- St. Denis -- Stewart -- (Northumberland) -- Terrana -- Thalheimer -- Torsney -- Ur -- Vanclief -- Verran -- Wells -- Wood -- Young -- Zed -- 95

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 5 of Mr. Wappel (Scarborough West), seconded by Mr. Szabo (Mississauga South), -- That Bill C- 33, in Clause 1, be amended

"2.(1) The purpose of this Act is to extend the";

"2.(2) For all purposes of this Act, sexual orientation means, only, heterosexuality, homosexuality or bisexuality and refers only to consenting adults acting within the law."

The question was put on the motion and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 68)

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Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Benoit -- Bhaduria -- Breitkreuz -- (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz -- (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Bridgman -- Calder -- Comuzzi -- Cummins -- Duncan -- Epp -- Frazer -- Gilmour -- Gouk -- Grubel -- Guarnieri -- Hanger -- Hanrahan -- Harper -- (Calgary West/Ouest) -- Hart -- Hermanson -- Hill -- (Macleod) -- Hill -- (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Hopkins -- Jordan -- Martin -- (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- McClelland -- (Edmonton Southwest/Sud-Ouest) -- McTeague -- Meredith -- Morrison -- O'Brien -- (London -- Middlesex) -- Penson -- Peric -- Ramsay -- Ringma -- Scott -- (Skeena) -- Silye -- Solberg -- Steckle -- Stinson -- Szabo -- Wappel -- White -- (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- 46

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Allmand -- Althouse -- Anderson -- Assad -- Bélair -- Bevilacqua -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar -- Boudria -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Clancy -- Collenette -- Cowling -- de Jong -- DeVillers -- Discepola -- Dupuy -- Eggleton -- Finestone -- Flis -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gauthier -- Gerrard -- Godfrey -- Grey -- (Beaver River) -- Harb -- Harper -- (Simcoe Centre) -- Harvard -- Hubbard -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Kerpan -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Kraft Sloan -- Lee -- Loney -- MacAulay -- MacDonald -- Manley -- Manning -- Marleau -- Massé -- Mayfield -- McLaughlin -- McLellan -- (Edmonton Northwest/Nord-Ouest) -- McWhinney -- Ménard -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Minna -- Nault -- Patry -- Peters -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Pickard -- (Essex -- Kent) -- Proud -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Robichaud -- Robillard -- Robinson -- Rock -- Schmidt -- Simmons -- Speaker -- Stewart -- (Northumberland) -- Strahl -- Thompson -- Vanclief -- Wayne -- White -- (Fraser Valley West/Ouest) -- Wood -- Young -- Zed -- 80

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 6 of Mr. Wappel (Scarborough West), seconded by Mr. Szabo (Mississauga South), -- That Bill C- 33, in Clause 1, be amended

"2.(1) The purpose of this Act is to extend the";

The question was put on the motion and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 69)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Ablonczy -- Benoit -- Bhaduria -- Breitkreuz -- (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz -- (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Bridgman -- Calder -- Comuzzi -- Cummins -- Duncan -- Epp -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Gilmour -- Gouk -- Grey -- (Beaver River) -- Grubel -- Hanger -- Hanrahan -- Harper -- (Calgary West/Ouest) -- Harper -- (Simcoe Centre) -- Hart -- Hayes -- Hermanson -- Hill -- (Macleod) -- Hill -- (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Jennings -- Jordan -- Kerpan -- Manning -- Martin -- (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Mayfield -- McClelland -- (Edmonton Southwest/Sud-Ouest) -- McTeague -- Meredith -- Morrison -- O'Brien -- (London -- Middlesex) -- Penson -- Ramsay -- Ringma -- Schmidt -- Scott -- (Skeena) -- Solberg -- Speaker -- Steckle -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Thompson -- Wappel -- Wayne -- White -- (Fraser Valley West/Ouest) -- White -- (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- 55

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Allmand -- Althouse -- Anderson -- Assad -- Axworthy -- (Winnipeg South Centre/Sud-Centre) -- Bélair -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar -- Boudria -- Campbell -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Clancy -- Collenette -- Cowling -- DeVillers -- Discepola -- Duceppe -- Dupuy -- Eggleton -- Finestone -- Flis -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gerrard -- Godfrey -- Harb -- Harvard -- Hickey -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Kraft Sloan -- Lee -- Loney -- MacAulay -- MacDonald -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marleau -- Massé -- McCormick -- McKinnon -- McLaughlin -- McLellan -- (Edmonton Northwest/Nord-Ouest) -- McWhinney -- Ménard -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murphy -- Nault -- Parrish -- Patry -- Payne -- Peters -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Pickard -- (Essex -- Kent) -- Proud -- Reed -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Robichaud -- Robillard -- Robinson -- Rock -- Shepherd -- Simmons -- Speller -- Stewart -- (Northumberland) -- Vanclief -- Wood -- Young -- Zed -- 80

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 7 of Mr. Wappel (Scarborough West), seconded by Mr. Szabo (Mississauga South), -- That Bill C- 33, in Clause 1, be amended

"2.(1) The purpose of this Act is to extend the";

The question was put on the motion and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 70)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Ablonczy -- Benoit -- Bhaduria -- Breitkreuz -- (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz -- (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Bridgman -- Calder -- Cummins -- Duncan -- Epp -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Gilmour -- Gouk -- Grey -- (Beaver River) -- Grubel -- Hanger -- Hanrahan -- Harper -- (Calgary West/Ouest) -- Harper -- (Simcoe Centre) -- Hart -- Hayes -- Hermanson -- Hill -- (Macleod) -- Hill -- (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Jennings -- Kerpan -- Manning -- Martin -- (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Mayfield -- McClelland -- (Edmonton Southwest/Sud-Ouest) -- McTeague -- Meredith -- Morrison -- O'Brien -- (London -- Middlesex) -- Penson -- Ramsay -- Ringma -- Schmidt -- Scott -- (Skeena) -- Silye -- Solberg -- Speaker -- Steckle -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Thompson -- Wappel -- Wayne -- White -- (Fraser Valley West/Ouest) -- White -- (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- 54

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Allmand -- Althouse -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy -- (Winnipeg South Centre/Sud-Centre) -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar -- Boudria -- Campbell -- Canuel -- Cauchon -- Clancy -- Collenette -- Cowling -- DeVillers -- Discepola -- Dupuy -- Eggleton -- Finestone -- Flis -- Fry -- Gauthier -- Gerrard -- Godfrey -- Harb -- Harper -- (Churchill) -- Harvard -- Hickey -- Hubbard -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Kraft Sloan -- Lee -- Loney -- MacAulay -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marleau -- Massé -- McCormick -- McKinnon -- McLellan -- (Edmonton Northwest/Nord-Ouest) -- McWhinney -- Ménard -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Nault -- Payne -- Peters -- Pettigrew -- Pickard -- (Essex -- Kent) -- Proud -- Reed -- Richardson -- Robichaud -- Robillard -- Robinson -- Rock -- St. Denis -- Stewart -- (Northumberland) -- Terrana -- Thalheimer -- Torsney -- Ur -- Verran -- Wells -- Wood -- Young -- Zed -- 80

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 8A of Ms. Skoke (Central Nova), seconded by Mrs. Hayes (Port Moody -- Coquitlam), -- That Bill C-33, in Clause 1, be amended by replacing lines 30 and 31, on page 1, with the following:

"origin, colour, religion, age, sex, marital status, family status, dis-".

The question was put on the motion and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 71)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Benoit -- Bhaduria -- Breitkreuz -- (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz -- (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Bridgman -- Cummins -- Duncan -- Epp -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Gilmour -- Gouk -- Grey -- (Beaver River) -- Grubel -- Hanger -- Hanrahan -- Harper -- (Calgary West/Ouest) -- Harper -- (Simcoe Centre) -- Hart -- Hayes -- Hermanson -- Hill -- (Macleod) -- Hill -- (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Jennings -- Kerpan -- Manning -- Mayfield -- McClelland -- (Edmonton Southwest/Sud-Ouest) -- Meredith -- Morrison -- Penson -- Ramsay -- Ringma -- Schmidt -- Scott -- (Skeena) -- Skoke -- Solberg -- Speaker -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Thompson -- Wayne -- White -- (Fraser Valley West/Ouest) -- White -- (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- 48

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Althouse -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy -- (Winnipeg South Centre/Sud-Centre) -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bernier -- (Beauce) -- Bevilacqua -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar -- Boudria -- Brushett -- Bryden -- Byrne -- Campbell -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Clancy -- Collenette -- Cowling -- Culbert -- Cullen -- de Jong -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Duceppe -- Dupuy -- Easter -- Eggleton -- English -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Flis -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gerrard -- Godfrey -- Graham -- Grose -- Harper -- (Churchill) -- Harvard -- Hopkins -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Kirkby -- Kraft Sloan -- LeBlanc -- (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Lee -- Loney -- MacAulay -- MacDonald -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marleau -- Massé -- McCormick -- McKinnon -- McLaughlin -- McLellan -- (Edmonton Northwest/Nord-Ouest) -- McWhinney -- Ménard -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murphy -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Peters -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Proud -- Reed -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Robichaud -- Robillard -- Robinson -- Rock -- Scott -- (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Silye -- Simmons -- Speller -- Stewart -- (Brant) -- Stewart -- (Northumberland) -- Terrana -- Thalheimer -- Ur -- Vanclief -- Verran -- Wood -- Young -- 102

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 16 of Mrs. Hayes (Port Moody -- Coquitlam), seconded by Mr. Strahl (Fraser Valley East), -- That Bill C-33, in Clause 2, be amended by deleting lines 1 to 8, on page 2.

The question was put on the motion and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 72)

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Members--Députés

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Althouse -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy -- (Winnipeg South Centre/Sud-Centre) -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bevilacqua -- Bhaduria -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar -- Boudria -- Brushett -- Bryden -- Byrne -- Campbell -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Clancy -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Culbert -- Cullen -- de Jong -- DeVillers -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Duceppe -- Dupuy -- Eggleton -- English -- Finlay -- Flis -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gerrard -- Godfrey -- Grose -- Harb -- Harper -- (Churchill) -- Harvard -- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- LeBlanc -- (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Lee -- Loney -- MacAulay -- MacDonald -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marleau -- Martin -- (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McCormick -- McKinnon -- McLaughlin -- McLellan -- (Edmonton Northwest/Nord-Ouest) -- Ménard -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murphy -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Payne -- Peters -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Proud -- Reed -- Regan -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Robichaud -- Robillard -- Robinson -- Rock -- Scott -- (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Simmons -- Speller -- Stewart -- (Brant) -- Stewart -- (Northumberland) -- Terrana -- Thalheimer -- Ur -- Vanclief -- Verran -- Wells -- Wood -- Young -- 104

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 16A of Ms. Skoke (Central Nova), seconded by Mrs. Hayes (Port Moody -- Coquitlam), -- That Bill C-33, in Clause 2, be amended by replacing line 6, on page 2, with the following:

"sex, marital status, family".

The question was put on the motion and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 73)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Benoit -- Bhaduria -- Breitkreuz -- (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz -- (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Bridgman -- Cummins -- Duncan -- Epp -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Gilmour -- Gouk -- Grey -- (Beaver River) -- Grubel -- Hanger -- Hanrahan -- Harper -- (Calgary West/Ouest) -- Harper -- (Simcoe Centre) -- Hart -- Hayes -- Hermanson -- Hill -- (Macleod) -- Hill -- (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Jennings -- Kerpan -- Manning -- Mayfield -- McClelland -- (Edmonton Southwest/Sud-Ouest) -- Meredith -- Morrison -- Penson -- Ramsay -- Ringma -- Schmidt -- Scott -- (Skeena) -- Skoke -- Solberg -- Speaker -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Thompson -- Wayne -- White -- (Fraser Valley West/Ouest) -- White -- (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- 48

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Allmand -- Althouse -- Anderson -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy -- (Winnipeg South Centre/Sud-Centre) -- Barnes -- Bélair -- Bevilacqua -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar -- Campbell -- Clancy -- Collenette -- Cowling -- de Jong -- DeVillers -- Discepola -- Dupuy -- Eggleton -- Finestone -- Flis -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gauthier -- Gerrard -- Godfrey -- Harb -- Harper -- (Churchill) -- Harvard -- Hickey -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Kraft Sloan -- LeBlanc -- (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Lee -- Loney -- MacAulay -- MacDonald -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marleau -- Martin -- (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McCormick -- McLaughlin -- McLellan -- (Edmonton Northwest/Nord-Ouest) -- McWhinney -- Ménard -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Minna -- Nault -- Pagtakhan -- Parrish -- Patry -- Peters -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Pickard -- (Essex -- Kent) -- Proud -- Reed -- Regan -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Robichaud -- Robillard -- Robinson -- Rock -- Scott -- (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Shepherd -- Silye -- Simmons -- Speller -- Stewart -- (Brant) -- Stewart -- (Northumberland) -- Terrana -- Thalheimer -- Vanclief -- Wells -- Wood -- Young -- Zed -- 88

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

Mr. Rock (Minister of Justice), seconded by Mr. Gagliano (Minister of Labour and Deputy Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), moved, -- That Bill C-33, An Act to amend the Canadian Human Rights Act, be concurred in at report stage.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 74)

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Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Allmand -- Althouse -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Asselin -- Augustine -- Axworthy -- (Winnipeg South Centre/Sud-Centre) -- Bachand -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellehumeur -- Bergeron -- Bernier -- (Beauce) -- Bernier -- (Gaspé) -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Boudria -- Brown -- (Oakville -- Milton) -- Brushett -- Bryden -- Byrne -- Campbell -- Canuel -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Clancy -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Cowling -- Crête -- Cullen -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Daviault -- de Jong -- Deshaies -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Duceppe -- Dupuy -- Easter -- Eggleton -- English -- Fillion -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Flis -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gallaway -- Gauthier -- Gerrard -- Godfrey -- Godin -- Graham -- Grose -- Guay -- Guimond -- Harb -- Harper -- (Churchill) -- Harvard -- Hickey -- Hopkins -- Ianno -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Jacob -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Kraft Sloan -- Lalonde -- Langlois -- Lavigne -- (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- LeBlanc -- (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Leroux -- (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Loney -- Loubier -- MacAulay -- MacDonald -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marchand -- Marleau -- Martin -- (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McCormick -- McKinnon -- McLaughlin -- McLellan -- (Edmonton Northwest/Nord-Ouest) -- McWhinney -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murphy -- Nault -- Nunez -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Paré -- Parrish -- Patry -- Payne -- Peters -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Picard -- (Drummond) -- Pickard -- (Essex -- Kent) -- Plamondon -- Pomerleau -- Proud -- Reed -- Regan -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Ringuette-Maltais -- Robichaud -- Robillard -- Robinson -- Rock -- Sauvageau -- Scott -- (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Shepherd -- Simmons -- St. Denis -- Stewart -- (Brant) -- Stewart -- (Northumberland) -- Terrana -- Thalheimer -- Torsney -- Tremblay -- (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay -- (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Tremblay -- (Rosemont) -- Vanclief -- Verran -- Wells -- Wood -- Young -- Zed -- 153

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Benoit -- Bhaduria -- Breitkreuz -- (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz -- (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Bridgman -- Calder -- Comuzzi -- Culbert -- Cummins -- Duncan -- Epp -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Gilmour -- Gouk -- Grey -- (Beaver River) -- Grubel -- Guarnieri -- Hanger -- Hanrahan -- Harper -- (Calgary West/Ouest) -- Harper -- (Simcoe Centre) -- Hart -- Hayes -- Hermanson -- Hill -- (Macleod) -- Hill -- (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Hubbard -- Jennings -- Jordan -- Kerpan -- Manning -- Mayfield -- McClelland -- (Edmonton Southwest/Sud-Ouest) -- McGuire -- McTeague -- Meredith -- Morrison -- O'Brien -- (London -- Middlesex) -- Penson -- Ramsay -- Ringma -- Schmidt -- Scott -- (Skeena) -- Serré -- Skoke -- Solberg -- Speaker -- Speller -- Steckle -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Thompson -- Wappel -- Wayne -- White -- (Fraser Valley West/Ouest) -- White -- (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- 62

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

Accordingly, the Bill was concurred in at report stage and ordered for a third reading at the next sitting of the House.

MESSAGES FROM THE SENATE

A Message was received from the Senate as follows:

-- ORDERED: That a Message be sent to the House of Commons to acquaint that House that the Senate has passed C-16, An Act to amend the Contraventions Act and to make consequential amendments to other Acts, without amendment.

RETURNS AND REPORTS DEPOSITED WITH THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(1), a paper deposited with the Clerk of the House was laid upon the Table as follows:

-- by Mr. Eggleton (Minister for International Trade) -- Reports of the Northern Pipeline Agency for the period ended March 31, 1996, pursuant to the Access to Information Act and the Privacy Act, R. S. 1985, c. A-1 and P-21, sbss. 72(2). -- Sessional Paper No. 8561-352-720. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs)

PETITIONS FILED WITH THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were filed as follows:

-- by Mr. Fontana (London East), one concerning hormone use in livestock (No. 352-0385), one concerning abortion (No. 352-0386), two concerning euthanasia (Nos. 352-0387 and 352-0388) and twelve concerning sexual orientation (Nos. 352-0389 to 352- 0400);

-- by Mr. Loney (Edmonton North), one concerning sexual orientation (No. 352-0401);

-- by Ms. McLellan (Edmonton Northwest), one concerning sexual abuse of children (No. 352-0402);

-- by Mr. Cullen (Etobicoke North), one concerning sexual orientation (No. 352-0403).

PROCEEDINGS ON ADJOURNMENT MOTION

At 8:19 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 38(1), the question "That this House do now adjourn" was deemed to have been proposed.

After debate, the question was deemed to have been adopted.

ADJOURNMENT

At 8:32 p.m., the Acting Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow at 10:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).