PRAYERS

DAILY ROUTINE OF BUSINESS

Tabling of Documents

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Adams (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to the following petitions:

-- Nos. 361-1457, 361-1472, 361-1473, 361-1474 and 361-1475 concerning marriage. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-361-80D;

-- No. 361-1458 concerning the Divorce Act. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-361-34B;

-- Nos. 361-1460 and 361-1467 concerning gun control. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-361-67L;

-- Nos. 361-1461, 361-1462, 361-1463, 361-1464 and 361-1465 concerning impaired driving. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-361-32C;

-- No. 361-1468 concerning international trade. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-361-54I;

-- No. 361-1471 concerning children's rights. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-361-18J;

-- Nos. 361-1476, 361-1477, 361-1478, 361-1479 and 361-1480 concerning the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-361-64D.

Presenting Reports from Committees

Mr. Gallaway (Sarnia -- Lambton), from the Special Joint Committee on Child Custody and Access, presented the 1st Report of the Committee (Extension of deadline). -- Sessional Paper No. 8510-361-106.

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings was tabled.

Mr. Adams (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), from the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs, presented the 44th Report of the Committee, which was as follows:

In accordance with its mandate under Standing Order 92(1), your Committee has selected from among the items for which an order of precedence was established on or after Tuesday, October 20, 1998, the following as a votable item:

M-300 -- Mr. Martin (Winnipeg Centre)

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings (Meeting No. 40) was tabled.

Pursuant to Standing Order 92(2), the Report was deemed adopted.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The Order was read for the consideration at report stage of Bill C-53, An Act to increase the availability of financing for the establishment, expansion, modernization and improvement of small businesses, as reported by the Standing Committee on Industry with amendments.

Pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(5), the Speaker selected and grouped for debate the following motions:

Group No. 1 -- Motion No. 1.

Group No. 2 -- Motions Nos. 2 to 5.

Group No. 3 -- Motions Nos. 6 and 11.

Group No. 4 -- Motions Nos. 7 and 8.

Group No. 5 -- Motions Nos. 9 and 10.

Group No. 6 -- Motion No. 12.

Group No. 7 -- Motions Nos. 13 to 16.

Group No. 1

Ms. Lalonde (Mercier), seconded by Mr. Dubé (Lévis-et Chutes-de-la-Chaudière), moved Motion No. 1, -- That Bill C-53 be amended by adding after line 22 on page 2 the following new clause:

``2.1 The purpose of this Act is to increase the availability of financing of small businesses, which would not otherwise have access to financing.''

Debate arose on the motion in Group No. 1 (Motion No. 1).

STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

ORAL QUESTIONS

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The House resumed the consideration at report stage of Bill C-53, An Act to increase the availability of financing for the establishment, expansion, modernization and improvement of small businesses, as reported by the Standing Committee on Industry with amendments;

And of the motion in Group No. 1 (Motion No. 1).

The debate continued on the motion in Group No. 1.

The question was put on Motion No. 1 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred.

Group No. 2

Mr. Pankiw (Saskatoon -- Humboldt), seconded by Mrs. Ablonczy (Calgary -- Nose Hill), moved Motion No. 2, -- That Bill C-53, in Clause 4, be amended by replacing line 26 on page 3 with the following:

``limits; and

(e) the loan must not be in addition to other loans made under this Act to persons related to the borrower for the operation of the same small business.''

Mr. Pankiw (Saskatoon -- Humboldt), seconded by Mrs. Ablonczy (Calgary -- Nose Hill), moved Motion No. 3, -- That Bill C-53, in Clause 4, be amended by replacing line 33 on page 3 with the following:

``to the borrower does not exceed $100,000''

Mr. Gagliano (Minister of Public Works and Government Services) for Mr. Manley (Minister of Industry), seconded by Mr. MacAulay (Minister of Labour), moved Motion No. 4, -- That Bill C-53, in Clause 4, be amended by replacing lines 41 to 45 on page 3 with the following:

``tions, of all loans made under this Act and guaranteed business improvement loans made under the Small Business Loans Act.''

Recommendation
(Pursuant to Standing Order 76.(3))

His Excellency the Governor General recommends to the House of Commons the appropriation of public revenue under the circumstances, in the manner and for the purposes set out in the following amendment to Bill C-53 ``An Act to increase the availability of financing for the establishment, expansion, modernization and improvement of small businesses''. That Clause 4 of Bill C-53 be amended by striking out lines 41 to 45 on page 3 and substituting the following:

``tions, of all loans made under this Act and guaranteed business improvement loans made under the Small Business Loans Act.''

Mr. Gagliano (Minister of Public Works and Government Services) for Mr. Manley (Minister of Industry), seconded by Mr. MacAulay (Minister of Labour), moved Motion No. 5, -- That Bill C-53, in Clause 7, be amended by replacing lines 18 to 22 on page 5 with the following:

``made under this Act and guaranteed business improvement loans made under the Small Business Loans Act.''

Recommendation
(Pursuant to Standing Order 76.(3))

His Excellency the Governor General recommends to the House of Commons the appropriation of public revenue under the circumstances, in the manner and for the purposes set out in the following amendment to Bill C-53 ``An Act to increase the availability of financing for the establishment, expansion, modernization and improvement of small businesses''. That Clause 7 of Bill C-53 be amended by striking out lines 18 to 22 on page 5 and substituting the following:

``made under this Act and guaranteed business improvement loans made under the Small Business Loans Act.''

Debate arose on the motions in Group No. 2 (Motions Nos. 2 to 5).

At 5:30 p.m., pursuant to Order made Thursday, November 5, 1998, the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the motion of Ms. McLellan (Minister of Justice), seconded by Ms. Copps (Minister of Canadian Heritage), -- That Bill C-51, An Act to amend the Criminal Code, the Controlled Drugs and Substances Act and the Corrections and Conditional Release Act, be now read a third time and do pass.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 263)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alarie -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Asselin -- Augustine -- Axworthy --  (Saskatoon -- Rosetown -- Biggar) -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bachand --  (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellehumeur -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Bergeron -- Bernier --  (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Bigras -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Borotsik -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Brien -- Brison -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Calder -- Cannis -- Caplan -- Cardin -- Carroll -- Casey -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Charbonneau -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Clouthier -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Crête -- Cullen -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Davies -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desrochers -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Doyle -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Dubé --  (Lévis-et-Chutes-de-la-Chaudière) -- Dubé --  (Madawaska -- Restigouche) -- Duceppe -- Duhamel -- Dumas -- Earle -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Finestone -- Folco -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon -- Gallaway -- Gauthier -- Girard-Bujold -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Guay -- Guimond -- Harb -- Hardy -- Harvard -- Harvey -- Herron -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Karygiannis -- Keddy --  (South Shore) -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Laliberte -- Lalonde -- Lastewka -- Laurin -- Lavigne -- Lebel -- Lee -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- Loubier -- MacAulay -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marceau -- Marchand -- Marleau -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- Massé -- Matthews -- McCormick -- McDonough -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McTeague -- Ménard -- Mifflin -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Muise -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Normand -- Nunziata -- Nystrom -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Pickard --  (Chatham -- Kent Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Plamondon -- Power -- Pratt -- Price -- Proctor -- Proud -- Provenzano -- Redman -- Reed -- Richardson -- Riis -- Robillard -- Robinson -- Rocheleau -- Rock -- Saada -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Sekora -- Solomon -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- St-Jacques -- St-Julien -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Thompson --  (New Brunswick Southwest) -- Torsney -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Vautour -- Volpe -- Wappel -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Wayne -- Whelan -- Wilfert -- 205

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Ablonczy -- Anders -- Bailey -- Benoit -- Breitkreuz --  (Yellowhead) -- Cadman -- Casson -- Chatters -- Cummins -- Duncan -- Epp -- Forseth -- Gilmour -- Goldring -- Gouk -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Harris -- Hart -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hilstrom -- Hoeppner -- Jaffer -- Johnston -- Kenney --  (Calgary-Southeast) -- Lowther -- Lunn -- Manning -- Martin --  (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Mayfield -- McNally -- Meredith -- Morrison -- Obhrai -- Pankiw -- Penson -- Ramsay -- Reynolds -- Ritz -- Schmidt -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- Solberg -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Vellacott -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- White --  (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- 49

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Alcock -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Baker -- Bernier --  (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Canuel -- Chan -- Coderre -- Finlay -- Fournier -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Lefebvre -- Leung -- Marchi -- Mercier -- O'Brien --  (Labrador) -- Perron -- Sauvageau -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Steckle -- St-Hilaire -- Venne

Accordingly, the Bill was read the third time and passed.

Pursuant to Order made Thursday, November 5, 1998, the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the motion of Ms. Davies (Vancouver East), seconded by Ms. Hardy (Yukon), -- That, in the opinion of this House, the government should reverse the privatisation of Canada Student Loans, reject proposals for income contingent loan repayment, and should instead implement a federal student grant program and establish accessibility as a new national standard for post-secondary education. (Private Members' Business M-132)

The question was put on the motion and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 264)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Axworthy --  (Saskatoon -- Rosetown -- Biggar) -- Bachand --  (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bernier --  (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Borotsik -- Brison -- Caccia -- Casey -- Cummins -- Davies -- Doyle -- Dubé --  (Madawaska -- Restigouche) -- Earle -- Hardy -- Harvey -- Herron -- Keddy --  (South Shore) -- Laliberte -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- Matthews -- McDonough -- Muise -- Nunziata -- Nystrom -- Power -- Price -- Proctor -- Riis -- Robinson -- Solomon -- St-Jacques -- Thompson --  (New Brunswick Southwest) -- Vautour -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Wayne -- 35

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Ablonczy -- Adams -- Alarie -- Anders -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Asselin -- Augustine -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bailey -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellehumeur -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Benoit -- Bergeron -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Bigras -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Breitkreuz --  (Yellowhead) -- Brien -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Cadman -- Calder -- Cannis -- Caplan -- Cardin -- Carroll -- Casson -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Charbonneau -- Chatters -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Clouthier -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Copps -- Crête -- Cullen -- Dalphond-Guiral -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desrochers -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Dubé --  (Lévis-et-Chutes-de-la-Chaudière) -- Duceppe -- Duhamel -- Dumas -- Duncan -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Epp -- Finestone -- Folco -- Fontana -- Forseth -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon -- Gallaway -- Gauthier -- Gilmour -- Girard-Bujold -- Godfrey -- Goldring -- Goodale -- Gouk -- Graham -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Guay -- Guimond -- Harb -- Harris -- Hart -- Harvard -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hilstrom -- Hoeppner -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jaffer -- Jennings -- Johnston -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Karygiannis -- Kenney --  (Calgary-Southeast) -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lalonde -- Lastewka -- Laurin -- Lavigne -- Lebel -- Lee -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- Loubier -- Lowther -- Lunn -- MacAulay -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Manning -- Marceau -- Marchand -- Marleau -- Martin --  (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- Mayfield -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McNally -- McTeague -- Ménard -- Meredith -- Mifflin -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Morrison -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Normand -- Obhrai -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Pankiw -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Penson -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Pickard --  (Chatham -- Kent Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Plamondon -- Pratt -- Proud -- Provenzano -- Ramsay -- Redman -- Reed -- Reynolds -- Richardson -- Ritz -- Robillard -- Rocheleau -- Rock -- Saada -- Schmidt -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- Sekora -- Solberg -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- Stinson -- St-Julien -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Torsney -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Vellacott -- Volpe -- Wappel -- Whelan -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- White --  (North Vancouver) -- Wilfert -- Williams -- 218

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Alcock -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Baker -- Bernier --  (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Canuel -- Chan -- Coderre -- Finlay -- Fournier -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Lefebvre -- Leung -- Marchi -- Mercier -- O'Brien --  (Labrador) -- Perron -- Sauvageau -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Steckle -- St-Hilaire -- Venne

PRIVATE MEMBERS' BUSINESS

At 6:17 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 30(7), the House proceeded to the consideration of Private Members' Business.

The Order was read for the second reading and reference to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights of Bill S-11, An Act to amend the Canadian Human Rights Act in order to add social condition as a prohibited ground of discrimination.

Ms. St-Jacques (Shefford), seconded by Mr. Herron (Fundy -- Royal), moved, -- That the Bill be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights.

Debate arose thereon.

Pursuant to Standing Order 93, the Order was dropped to the bottom of the order of precedence on the Order Paper.

RETURNS AND REPORTS DEPOSITED WITH THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(1), a paper deposited with the Clerk of the House was laid upon the Table as follows:

-- by Mr. Massé (President of the Treasury Board) -- Public Accounts of Canada for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1998, as follows: (1) Volume I -- Summary Report and Financial Statements, (2) Volume II, Part I -- Details of Expenditures and Revenues, (3) Volume II, Part II -- Additional Information and Analyses, pursuant to the Financial Administration Act, R.S. 1985, c. F-11, sbs. 64(1). -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-361-214A. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Public Accounts)

PROCEEDINGS ON ADJOURNMENT MOTION

At 7:17 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 38(1), the question ``That this House do now adjourn'' was deemed to have been proposed.

After debate, the question was deemed to have been adopted.

ADJOURNMENT

At 7:33 p.m., the Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow at 2:00 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).