PRAYERS

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The Order was read for the second reading and reference to the Standing Committee on Finance of Bill C-10, An Act to implement a convention between Canada and Sweden, a convention between Canada and the Republic of Lithuania, a convention between Canada and the Republic of Kazakhstan, a convention between Canada and the Republic of Iceland and a convention between Canada and the Kingdom of Denmark for the avoidance of double taxation and the prevention of fiscal evasion with respect to taxes on income and to amend the Canada-Netherlands Income Tax Convention Act, 1986 and the Canada-United States Tax Convention Act, 1984.

Mr. Peterson (Secretary of State (International Financial Institutions)) for Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance), seconded by Mr. MacAulay (Minister of Labour), moved, -- That the Bill be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Finance.

The debate continued.

STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

ORAL QUESTIONS

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

DAILY ROUTINE OF BUSINESS

Tabling of Documents

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Adams (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Orders in Council approving certain appointments made by the Governor General in Council, pursuant to Standing Order 110(1), as follows:

-- P.C. 1997-1393 and P.C. 1997-1394. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-361-24B. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Transport)

-- P.C. 1997-1396. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-361-6B. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Natural Resources and Government Operations)

-- P.C. 1997-1401, P.C. 1997-1402, P.C. 1997-1403, P.C. 1997- 1404, P.C. 1997-1405, P.C. 1997-1406, P.C. 1997-1407, P.C. 1997-1408, P.C. 1997-1409, P.C. 1997-1410, P.C. 1997-1411, P.C. 1997-1412, P.C. 1997-1413, P.C. 1997-1414 and P.C. 1997-1415. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-361-13C. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights)

-- P.C. 1997-1416. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-361-18B. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Health)

-- P.C. 1997-1443. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-361-22B. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Industry)

Introduction of Private Members' Bills

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Solomon (Regina -- Lumsden -- Lake Centre), seconded by Ms. Wasylycia-Leis (Winnipeg North Centre), Bill C-248, An Act to amend the Patent Act, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Calder (Dufferin -- Peel -- Wellington -- Grey), seconded by Mr. Finlay (Oxford), Bill C-249, An Act to amend the Income Tax Act, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Presenting Petitions

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, a petition certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions was presented as follows:

-- by Mr. Adams (Peterborough), one concerning telephone service (No. 361-0080).

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance), seconded by Mr. MacAulay (Minister of Labour), -- That Bill C-10, An Act to implement a convention between Canada and Sweden, a convention between Canada and the Republic of Lithuania, a convention between Canada and the Republic of Kazakhstan, a convention between Canada and the Republic of Iceland and a convention between Canada and the Kingdom of Denmark for the avoidance of double taxation and the prevention of fiscal evasion with respect to taxes on income and to amend the Canada- Netherlands Income Tax Convention Act, 1986 and the Canada- United States Tax Convention Act, 1984, be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Finance.

The debate continued.

Pursuant to Standing Order 26(1), Mr. Kilger (Stormont- -Dundas), seconded by Mr. Lastewka (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Industry), moved, -- That the House continue to sit beyond the ordinary hour of daily adjournment for the purpose of considering the second reading stage of Bill C-10, An Act to implement a convention between Canada and Sweden, a convention between Canada and the Republic of Lithuania, a convention between Canada and the Republic of Kazakhstan, a convention between Canada and the Republic of Iceland and a convention between Canada and the Kingdom of Denmark for the avoidance of double taxation and the prevention of fiscal evasion with respect to taxes on income and to amend the Canada-Netherlands Income Tax Convention Act, 1986 and the Canada-United States Tax Convention Act, 1984.

The question was put on the motion and, less than 15 Members having risen to object, pursuant to standing Order 26(2), the motion was adopted.

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance), seconded by Mr. MacAulay (Minister of Labour), -- That Bill C-10, An Act to implement a convention between Canada and Sweden, a convention between Canada and the Republic of Lithuania, a convention between Canada and the Republic of Kazakhstan, a convention between Canada and the Republic of Iceland and a convention between Canada and the Kingdom of Denmark for the avoidance of double taxation and the prevention of fiscal evasion with respect to taxes on income and to amend the Canada- Netherlands Income Tax Convention Act, 1986 and the Canada- United States Tax Convention Act, 1984, be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Finance.

Debate arose thereon.

Mr. Lastewka (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Industry), seconded by Mr. O'Reilly (Victoria -- Haliburton), moved, -- That this question be now put.

Debate arose thereon.

Mr. Williams (St. Albert), seconded by Mr. Grewal (Surrey Central), moved, -- That the Member for Calgary Centre be now heard.

The question was put on the motion and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 11)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Anders -- Bailey -- Benoit -- Blaikie -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Bryden -- Casson -- Cummins -- Davies -- Desjarlais -- Dockrill -- Doyle -- Elley -- Epp -- Forseth -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Goldring -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Hart -- Johnston -- Kenney --  (Calgary-Sud-Est) -- Laliberte -- Lill -- Lowther -- Lunn -- Mancini -- Manning -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- Matthews -- Meredith -- Morrison -- Nystrom -- Penson -- Proctor -- Ramsay -- Robinson -- Schmidt -- Solomon -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Thompson --  (Wild Rose) -- Wasylycia-Leis -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- Williams -- 47

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Anderson -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Bergeron -- Bonwick -- Borotsik -- Bradshaw -- Brown -- Caccia -- Cannis -- Catterall -- Charbonneau -- Clouthier -- Collenette -- Cullen -- de Savoye -- Debien -- DeVillers -- Finlay -- Folco -- Gagnon -- Goodale -- Grose -- Harvard -- Herron -- Keddy --  (South Shore) -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Knutson -- Lastewka -- Leung -- Lincoln -- Maloney -- Marchand -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McTeague -- Ménard -- Mitchell -- Myers -- Paradis -- Peric -- Peterson -- Phinney -- Pickard --  (Kent -- Essex) -- Robillard -- Rocheleau -- Saada -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- St-Julien -- Thibeault -- Vanclief -- Wilfert -- 59

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance), seconded by Mr. MacAulay (Minister of Labour), -- That Bill C-10, An Act to implement a convention between Canada and Sweden, a convention between Canada and the Republic of Lithuania, a convention between Canada and the Republic of Kazakhstan, a convention between Canada and the Republic of Iceland and a convention between Canada and the Kingdom of Denmark for the avoidance of double taxation and the prevention of fiscal evasion with respect to taxes on income and to amend the Canada- Netherlands Income Tax Convention Act, 1986 and the Canada- United States Tax Convention Act, 1984, be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Finance;

And of the motion of Mr. Lastewka (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Industry), seconded by Mr. O'Reilly (Victoria -- Haliburton), moved, -- That this question be now put.

The debate continued.

The question was put on the motion and, pursuant to Standing Order 45, the recorded division was deferred until Tuesday, October 21 1997, at the expiry of the time provided for Government Orders.

RETURNS AND REPORTS DEPOSITED WITH THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(1), papers deposited with the Clerk of the House were laid upon the Table as follows:

-- by Mr. Axworthy (Minister of Foreign Affairs) -- Reports of the Department of Foreign Affairs and International Trade for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1997, pursuant to the Access to Information Act and to the Privacy Act, R. S. 1985, c. A-1 and P-21, sbs. 72(2). -- Sessional Paper No. 8561-361-638. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights)

-- by Mr. Collenette (Minister of Transport) -- Report of the Civil Aviation Tribunal for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1997, pursuant to the Aeronautics Act, R. S. 1985, c. (33 1st Supp.), s. 35. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-361-621. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Transport)

-- by Mr. Collenette (Minister of Transport) -- Reports of the Canada Ports Corporation for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1997, pursuant to the Access to Information Act and to the Privacy Act, R. S. 1985, c. A-1 and P-21, sbs. 72(2). -- Sessional Paper No. 8561-361-691. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights)

-- by Mr. Collenette (Minister of Transport) -- Reports of the Atlantic Pilotage Authority for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1997, pursuant to the Access to Information Act and to the Privacy Act, R. S. 1985, c. A-1 and P-21, sbs. 72(2). -- Sessional Paper No. 8561-361-713. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights)

-- by Mr. Collenette (Minister of Transport) -- Reports of the Great Lakes Pilotage Authority, Ltd. for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1997, pursuant to the Access to Information Act and to the Privacy Act, R. S. 1985, c. A-1 and P- 21, sbs. 72(2). -- Sessional Paper No. 8561-361-714. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights)

-- by Mr. Collenette (Minister of Transport) -- Reports of the Laurentian Pilotage Authority for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1997, pursuant to the Access to Information Act and to the Privacy Act, R. S. 1985, c. A-1 and P-21, sbs. 72(2). -- Sessional Paper No. 8561-361-715. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights)

-- by Mr. Collenette (Minister of Transport) -- Reports of the Pacific Pilotage Authority for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1997, pursuant to the Access to Information Act and to the Privacy Act, R. S. 1985, c. A-1 and P-21, sbs. 72(2). -- Sessional Paper No. 8561-361-716. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights)

-- by Ms. Copps (Minister of Canadian Heritage) -- Summaries of the Corporate Plan for the period 1997-98 to 2001-02 and of the Operating and Capital Budgets for 1997-98 of the Canadian Museum of Nature, pursuant to the Financial Administration Act, R.S. 1985, c. F-11, sbs. 125(4). -- Sessional Paper No. 8562- 361-856. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage)

-- by Ms. Copps (Minister of Canadian Heritage) -- Summaries of the Corporate Plan for the period 1997-1998 to 2001-2002 and of the Operating and Capital Budgets for 1997-1998 and of the National Museum of Science and Technology Corporation, pursuant to the Financial Administration Act, R. S. 1985, c. F-11, sbs. 125(4). -- Sessional Paper No. 8562-361-857. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage)

-- by Ms. Copps (Minister of Canadian Heritage) -- Summaries of the Corporate Plan and of the Operating and Capital Budgets for 1997-98 to 2001-02 of the National Gallery of Canada including the Canadian Museum of Contemporary Photography, pursuant to the Financial Administration Act, R.S. 1985, c. F-11, sbs. 125(4). -- Sessional Paper No. 8562-361-859. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage)

-- by Mr. Dhaliwal (Minister of National Revenue) -- Reports of Revenue Canada, Customs, Excise and Taxation for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1997, pursuant to the Access to Information Act and to the Privacy Act, R. S. 1985, c. A-1 and P-21, sbs. 72(2). -- Sessional Paper No. 8561-361-646. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights)

-- by Mr. Manley (Minister of Industry) -- Report of the Copyright Board for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1997, pursuant to the Act to amend the Copyright Act and to amend other Acts in consequence thereof, R.S. 1985, c. 10 (4th Supp.), s. 12. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-361-555. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Industry)

-- by Mr. Marchi (Minister for International Trade) -- Reports of the Canadian Commercial Corporation for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1997, pursuant to the Access to Information Act and to the Privacy Act, R. S. 1985, c. A-1 and P-21, sbs. 72(2). -- Sessional Paper No. 8561-361-722. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights)

-- by Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance) -- Reports of the Canada Deposit Insurance Corporation for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1997, pursuant to the Access to Information Act and to the Privacy Act, R. S. 1985, c. A-1 and P-21, sbs. 72(2). -- Sessional Paper No. 8561-361-695. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights)

-- by Mr. Mifflin (Minister of Veterans Affairs) -- Report of the Army Benevolent Fund Board, together with the Auditor General's Report, for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1997, pursuant to the Army Benevolent Fund Act, R. S. 1970, c. A- 16, s. 13. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-361-58. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on National Defence and Veterans Affairs)

-- by Mr. Mifflin (Minister of Veterans Affairs) -- Reports of the Department of Veterans Affairs for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1997, pursuant to the Access to Information Act and to the Privacy Act, R. S. 1985, c. A-1 and P-21, sbs. 72(2). -- Sessional Paper No. 8561-361-708. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights)

ADJOURNMENT

At 8:46 p.m., the Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow at 10:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).