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HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA
36th PARLIAMENT, 1st SESSION


JOURNALS

No. 184

Thursday, February 18, 1999

10:00 a.m.



PRAYERS

DAILY ROUTINE OF BUSINESS

Tabling of Documents

Mr. Iftody (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Indian Affairs and Northern Development) laid upon the Table, -- Document entitled ``Indian Claims Commission: Annual Report 1997-98''. -- Sessional Paper No. 8525-361-22.


Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Adams (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to the following petitions:

-- Nos. 361-1925, 361-1926, 361-1927, 361-1928, 361-1929, 361-1930, 361-1971, 361-1973, 361-1975, 361-1982 and 361-1986 concerning international trade. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-361-54Q.

Presenting Reports from Committees

Mr. O'Brien (London -- Fanshawe), from the Standing Committee on National Defence and Veterans Affairs, presented the 4th Report of the Committee (Bill C-61, An Act to amend the War Veterans Allowance Act, the Pension Act, the Merchant Navy Veteran and Civilian War-related Benefits Act, the Department of Veterans Affairs Act, the Veterans Review and Appeal Board Act and the Halifax Relief Commission Pension Continuation Act and to amend certain other Acts in consequence thereof, without amendment). -- Sessional Paper No. 8510-361-139.

Presenting Petitions

-- by Mr. Szabo (Mississauga South), one concerning human rights in Indonesia (No. 361-2039);

-- by Mr. Speller (Haldimand -- Norfolk -- Brant), one concerning pornography (No. 361-2040);

-- by Mr. Wappel (Scarborough Southwest), one concerning marriage (No. 361-2041);

-- by Mr. Gallaway (Sarnia -- Lambton), one concerning the Senate (No. 361-2042);

-- by Mr. Nystrom (Regina -- Qu'Appelle), three concerning the Senate (Nos. 361-2043, 361-2044 and 361-2045).

Questions on Order Paper

Mr. Adams (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) presented the answers to questions Q-138 and Q-139 on the Order Paper.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance), seconded by Mr. Gray (Deputy Prime Minister), -- That this House approves in general the budgetary policy of the Government; (Ways and Means Proceedings No. 19)

And of the amendment of Mr. Manning (Calgary Southwest), seconded by Mr. Solberg (Medicine Hat), -- That the motion be amended by replacing all the words after the word ``That'' with the following:

    ``this House rejects the Budget statement of the government because it is a continuation of the government's pay-more-get-less policy, which has savaged health care and burdened Canadians with high taxes, thus undermining the productivity of the canadian economy; and because this ever increasing high tax policy has significantly reduced the standard of living of Canadians and left the health care system in tatters.'';

And of the sub-amendment of Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe -- Bagot), seconded by Mr. Desrochers (Lotbinière), -- That the amendment be amended by striking out all the words following the words ``Budget statement of the government'' and replacing them with the following:

    ``because it does not significantly lower income taxes for middle-class persons; maintains the cuts to the Canada Social Transfer announced in the 1995 budget; imposes on Quebec the Social Union Agreement; penalizes Quebec by unilaterally imposing a new transfer formula for health care; makes new encroachments into the health care field; and uses money confiscated from unemployed persons in order to lower income taxes for more prosperous persons.''

The debate continued.

STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

ORAL QUESTIONS

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

PRIVILEGE

A question of privilege having been raised by Mr. Reynolds (West Vancouver -- Sunshine Coast), the Speaker ruled that there was a prima facie case of privilege.

Whereupon, Mr. Reynolds (West Vancouver -- Sunshine Coast), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved, -- That the incident of February 17, 1999, relating to picket lines established to impede access to the precincts of Parliament be referred to the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to.

WAYS AND MEANS

Mr. Peterson (Secretary of State (International Financial Institutions)) laid upon the Table, -- Notice of a Ways and Means motion relating to the National Parks Act. (Ways and Means Proceedings No. 23) -- Sessional Paper No. 8570-361-24.

Pursuant to Standing Order 83(2), at the request of Mr. Peterson (Secretary of State (International Financial Institutions)), an Order of the Day was designated for the consideration of this Ways and Means motion.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance), seconded by Mr. Gray (Deputy Prime Minister), -- That this House approves in general the budgetary policy of the Government; (Ways and Means Proceedings No. 19)

And of the amendment of Mr. Manning (Calgary Southwest), seconded by Mr. Solberg (Medicine Hat);

And of the sub-amendment of Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe -- Bagot), seconded by Mr. Desrochers (Lotbinière).

The debate continued.

At 6:15 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 84(4), the Speaker interrupted the proceedings.

The question was put on the sub-amendment and it was negatived on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 318)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Alarie -- Bachand --  (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Bergeron -- Bernier --  (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Bigras -- Borotsik -- Brien -- Brison -- Canuel -- Cardin -- Crête -- Dalphond-Guiral -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desrochers -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Fournier -- Gagnon -- Gauthier -- Girard-Bujold -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Guay -- Guimond -- Keddy --  (South Shore) -- Lalonde -- Laurin -- Lebel -- Loubier -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Marceau -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Perron -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Power -- Price -- Rocheleau -- St-Hilaire -- St-Jacques -- Thompson --  (New Brunswick Southwest) -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Turp -- Venne -- 45

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Adams -- Alcock -- Anders -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Benoit -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Blaikie -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Breitkreuz --  (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brown -- Bryden -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Cadman -- Calder -- Cannis -- Caplan -- Casson -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Chatters -- Chrétien --  (Saint-Maurice) -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Cullen -- Cummins -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dockrill -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Duhamel -- Duncan -- Earle -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Elley -- Epp -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Forseth -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gallaway -- Godfrey -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Goldring -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Grewal -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Hardy -- Harris -- Harvard -- Hilstrom -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jaffer -- Jennings -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Karygiannis -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Konrad -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lavigne -- Lee -- Leung -- Lill -- Lincoln -- Lowther -- Lunn -- MacAulay -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Mancini -- Manley -- Marchi -- Mark -- Martin --  (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McCormick -- McDonough -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Meredith -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Normand -- Nystrom -- O'Brien --  (Labrador) -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Penson -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Pickard --  (Chatham -- Kent Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Proctor -- Proud -- Provenzano -- Redman -- Reed -- Reynolds -- Richardson -- Riis -- Ritz -- Robillard -- Rock -- Saada -- Schmidt -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- Sekora -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Solberg -- Solomon -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- Stinson -- St-Julien -- Stoffer -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Thompson --  (Wild Rose) -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Vautour -- Vellacott -- Volpe -- Wappel -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Whelan -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- White --  (North Vancouver) -- Wilfert -- Wood -- 202

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Bellehumeur -- Bulte -- Carroll -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Dubé --  (Lévis-et-Chutes-de-la-Chaudière) -- Longfield -- Marleau -- Phinney -- Plamondon -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis)

MESSAGES FROM THE SENATE

Messages were received from the Senate as follows:

-- ORDERED: That a Message be sent to the House of Commons to acquaint that House that the Senate has passed C-59, An Act to amend the Insurance Companies Act, without amendment.

-- ORDERED: That a message be sent to the House of Commons to acquaint that House that the Senate concurs in the amendments made by the House of Commons to its amendments to Bill C-20, An Act to amend the Competition Act and to make consequential and related amendments to other Acts.

PETITIONS FILED WITH THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, a petition certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions was filed as follows:

-- by Mr. St. Denis (Algoma -- Manitoulin), one concerning nuclear weapons (No. 361-2046).

RETURNS AND REPORTS DEPOSITED WITH THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE

-- by Mr. MacAulay (Solicitor General of Canada) -- Report on the use of electronic surveillance for the year ended December 31, 1997, pursuant to the Criminal Code, R.S. 1985, c. C-46, sbs. 195(4). -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-361-510A. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights)

-- by Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance) -- Report of the Canadian International Trade Tribunal entitled ``Request for Tariff Relief by Distex Inc. regarding jacquard circular weft-knit fabric'', dated February 8, 1999, pursuant to the Canada-United States Free Trade Agreement Implementation Act, S. C. 1988, c. 65, s. 54. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-361-572Q. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Finance)

PROCEEDINGS ON ADJOURNMENT MOTION

At 6:51 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 38(1), the question ``That this House do now adjourn'' was deemed to have been proposed.

After debate, the question was deemed to have been adopted.

ADJOURNMENT

At 7:05 p.m., the Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow at 10:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).