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HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA
36th PARLIAMENT, 1st SESSION


JOURNALS

No. 048

Wednesday, December 10, 1997

2:00 p.m.



PRAYERS

NATIONAL ANTHEM

STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

ORAL QUESTIONS

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

DAILY ROUTINE OF BUSINESS

Tabling of Documents

Mr. Manley (Minister of Industry) laid upon the Table,

-- Report of Technology Partnerships Canada for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1997. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-361- 203.


Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. DeVillers (Parliamentary Secretary to the President of the Queen's Privy Council for Canada and Minister of Intergovernmental Affairs) laid upon the Table, -- Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to the following petitions:

-- No. 361-0097 concerning national parks. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-361-19;

-- Nos. 361-0146, 361-0147 and 361-0174 concerning taxes on books. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-361-3D;

-- Nos. 361-0156 and 361-0170 concerning the income tax system. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-361-10D;

-- No. 361-0171 concerning euthanasia. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-361-20;

-- No. 361-0229 concerning the Canadian flag. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-361- 15B.

Presenting Reports from Committees

Ms. Catterall (Ottawa West -- Nepean), from the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs, presented the 16th Report of the Committee, which was as follows:

      In accordance with its mandate under Standing Order 92(1), your Committee has selected from among the items for which an order of precedence was established on or after Tuesday, November 25, 1997, the following as votable items:
      Bill C-247 -- Ms. Picard
      Motion M-261 -- Mr. Martin (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca)

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings (Meeting No. 11, which includes this Report) was tabled.

Pursuant to Standing Order 92(2), the Report was deemed adopted.


Ms. Catterall (Ottawa West -- Nepean), from the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs, presented the 17th Report of the Committee, which was as follows:

      The Committee recommends, pursuant to Standing Orders 104 and 107, that the following Member be appointed as Associate Member of the Liaison Committee:

André Harvey

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings was tabled.


Ms. Cohen (Windsor -- St. Clair), from the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights, presented the 3rd Report of the Committee (Bill C-18, An Act to amend the Customs Act and the Criminal Code, without amendment). -- Sessional Paper No. 8510-361-29.

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings (Meetings Nos. 18 and 20) was tabled.


Ms. Cohen (Windsor -- St. Clair), from the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights, presented the 4th Report of the Committee (Draft Regulations on Firearms). -- Sessional Paper No. 8510-361-30.

Pursuant to Standing Order 109, the government was requested by the Committee to table a comprehensive response.

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings (Meetings Nos. 7 to 15, 17 and 21) was tabled.


Ms. Cohen (Windsor -- St. Clair), from the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights, presented the 5th Report of the Committee (Bill C-12, An Act to amend the Royal Canadian Mounted Police Superannuation Act, without amendment). -- Sessional Paper No. 8510-361-31.

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings (Meeting No. 22) was tabled.

Introduction of Government Bills

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Peterson (Secretary of State (International Financial Institutions)) for Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance), seconded by Ms. Robillard (Minister of Citizenship and Immigration), Bill C-28, An Act to amend the Income Tax Act, the Income Tax Application Rules, the Bankruptcy and Insolvency Act, the Canada Pension Plan, the Children's Special Allowances Act, the Companies' Creditors Arrangement Act, the Cultural Property Export and Import Act, the Customs Act, the Customs Tariff, the Employment Insurance Act, the Excise Tax Act, the Federal-Provincial Fiscal Arrangements Act, the Income Tax Conventions Interpretation Act, the Old Age Security Act, the Tax Court of Canada Act, the Tax Rebate Discounting Act, the Unemployment Insurance Act, the Western Grain Transition Payments Act and certain Acts related to the Income Tax Act, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Recommendation
(Pursuant to Standing Order 79(2))

    His Excellency the Governor General recommends to the House of Commons the appropriation of public revenue under the circumstances, in the manner and for the purposes set out in a measure entitled "An Act to amend the Income Tax Act, the Income Tax Application Rules, the Bankruptcy and Insolvency Act, the Canada Pension Plan, the Children's Special Allowances Act, the Companies' Creditors Arrangement Act, the Cultural Property Export and Import Act, the Customs Act, the Customs Tariff, the Employment Insurance Act, the Excise Tax Act, the Federal-Provincial Fiscal Arrangements Act, the Income Tax Conventions Interpretation Act, the Old Age Security Act, the Tax Court of Canada Act, the Tax Rebate Discounting Act, the Unemployment Insurance Act, the Western Grain Transition Payments Act and certain Acts related to the Income Tax Act".

Introduction of Private Members' Bills

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. de Savoye (Portneuf), seconded by Mr. Rocheleau (Trois-Rivières), Bill C-301, An Act to provide for the limitation of interest rates in relation to credit cards issued by financial institutions, companies engaged in retail trade and petroleum companies, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.


Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Thompson (Charlotte), seconded by Mr. Muise (West Nova), Bill C-302, An Act to establish the rights of fishers including the right to be involved in the process of fisheries stock assessment, fish conservation, setting of fishing quotas, fishing licensing and the public right to fish and establish the right of fishers to be informed of decisions affecting fishing as a livelihood in advance and the right to compensation if other rights are abrogated unfairly, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Motions

By unanimous consent, it was ordered, -- That the 17th Report of the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs, presented earlier today, be concurred in.

Presenting Petitions

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were presented as follows:

-- by Mr. Riis (Kamloops), one concerning euthanasia (No. 361-0298) and one concerning the tax system (No. 361-0299);

-- by Ms. Whelan (Essex), eleven concerning nudity (Nos. 361-0300 to 361-0310);

-- by Mr. Dubé (Lévis), one concerning Canada's railways (No. 361-0311);

-- by Mr. Mills (Red Deer), one concerning war crimes (No. 361-0312);

-- by Ms. Leung (Vancouver Kingsway), one concerning nuclear weapons (No. 361- 0313);

-- by Mr. Solomon (Regina -- Lumsden -- Lake Centre), one concerning the tax system (No. 361-0314).

Questions on Order Paper

Mr. DeVillers (Parliamentary Secretary to the President of the Queen's Privy Council for Canada and Minister of Intergovernmental Affairs) presented the answer to question Q-30 on the Order Paper.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

Mr. Kilgour (Secretary of State (Latin America and Africa)) for Mr. Boudria (Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), seconded by Mr. Mifflin (Minister of Veterans Affairs), moved, -- That this House take note of the 2nd Report of the Standing Committee on Finance, presented on Monday, December 1, 1997. (Government Business No. 9)

Debate arose thereon.

MESSAGES FROM THE SENATE

Messages were received from the Senate as follows:

-- ORDERED: That a message be sent to the House of Commons to acquaint that House that the Senate has passed C-7, An Act to establish the Saguenay -- St. Lawrence Marine Park and to make a consequential amendment to another Act, without amendment.

-- ORDERED: That a message be sent to the House of Commons to acquaint that House that the Senate has passed C-10, An Act to implement a convention between Canada and Sweden, a convention between Canada and the Republic of Lithuania, a convention between Canada and the Republic of Kazakhstan, a convention between Canada and the Republic of Iceland and a convention between Canada and the Kingdom of Denmark for the avoidance of double taxation and the prevention of fiscal evasion with respect to taxes on income and to amend the Canada-Netherlands Income Tax Convention Act, 1986 and the Canada-United States Tax Convention Act, 1984, without amendment.

ROYAL ASSENT

The Speaker informed the House that the Right Honourable the Deputy Governor General will proceed to the Senate today at 4:00 p.m. for the purpose of giving the Royal Assent to certain Bills.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Boudria (Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), seconded by Mr. Mifflin (Minister of Veterans Affairs). (Government Business No. 9)

The debate continued.

ROYAL ASSENT

A Message was received from the Right Honourable Antonio Lamer, Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of Canada, in his capacity as Deputy Governor General, desiring the immediate attendance of the House in the Senate.

Accordingly, the Speaker, with the House, proceeded to the Senate.

The Commons returned to the Chamber.

Whereupon, the Speaker reported that, when the Commons had been in the Senate, the Right Honourable the Deputy Governor General was pleased to give, in Her Majesty's name, the Royal Assent to the following Bills:

    Bill C-7, An Act to establish the Saguenay -- St. Lawrence Marine Park and to make a consequential amendment to another Act -- Chapter No. 37;
    Bill C-10, An Act to implement a convention between Canada and Sweden, a convention between Canada and the Republic of Lithuania, a convention between Canada and the Republic of Kazakhstan, a convention between Canada and the Republic of Iceland and a convention between Canada and the Kingdom of Denmark for the avoidance of double taxation and the prevention of fiscal evasion with respect to taxes on income and to amend the Canada-Netherlands Income Tax Convention Act, 1986 and the Canada-United States Tax Convention Act, 1984 -- Chapter No. 38.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Boudria (Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), seconded by Mr. Mifflin (Minister of Veterans Affairs). (Government Business No. 9)

The debate continued.

PRIVATE MEMBERS' BUSINESS

At 5:30 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 30(6), the House proceeded to the consideration of Private Members' Business.

The Order was read for the second reading and reference to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights of Bill C-215, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (Section 227).

By unanimous consent, Mr. Forseth (New Westminster -- Coquitlam -- Burnaby) for Mr. Thompson (Wild Rose), seconded by Mr. Hoeppner (Portage -- Lisgar), moved, -- That the Bill be now read a second time and refered to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights.

Debate arose thereon.

Pursuant to Standing Order 96(1), the Order was dropped from the Order Paper.

RETURNS AND REPORTS DEPOSITED WITH THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(1), papers deposited with the Clerk of the House were laid upon the Table as follows:

-- by Mr. Collenette (Minister of Transport) -- Report of the Administrator of the Ship-source Oil Pollution Fund for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1997, pursuant to an Act to amend the Canada Shipping Act and to amend the Arctic Waters Pollution Prevention Act and the Oil and Gas Production and Conservation Act in consequence thereof, R.S. 1985, c. 6 (3rd Supp.), s. 84. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-361-606. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Transport)

-- by Mr. Gagliano (Minister of Public Works and Government Services) -- Summaries of the Corporate Plan for 1997 -1998 to 2001-2002 and of the Operating and Capital Budgets for 1997 -1998 of the Old Port of Montréal Corporation Inc., pursuant to the Financial Administration Act, R. S. 1985, c. F-11, sbs. 125(4). -- Sessional Paper No. 8562-361-852. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Natural Resources and Government Operations)

-- by Mrs. Stewart (Minister of the Environment) -- Sustainable Development Strategy of the Atlantic Canada Opportunities Agency, pursuant to An Act to amend the Auditor General Act, S.C. 1995, c. 43, sbs. 24(1). -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-361-404. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Environment and Sustainable Development)

-- by Mrs. Stewart (Minister of the Environment) -- Sustainable Development Strategy of the Department of Canadian Heritage, pursuant to An Act to amend the Auditor General Act, S.C. 1995, c. 43, sbs. 24(1). -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-361-409. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Environment and Sustainable Development)

-- by Mrs. Stewart (Minister of the Environment) -- Sustainable Development Strategy of the Canadian International Development Agency, pursuant to An Act to amend the Auditor General Act, S.C. 1995, c. 43, sbs. 24(1). -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-361-410. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Environment and Sustainable Development)

-- by Mrs. Stewart (Minister of the Environment) -- Sustainable Development Strategy of the Department of Citizenship and Immigration, pursuant to An Act to amend the Auditor General Act, S.C. 1995, c. 43, sbs. 24(1). -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-361-421. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Environment and Sustainable Development)

-- by Mrs. Stewart (Minister of the Environment) -- Sustainable Development Strategy of the Correctional Service of Canada, pursuant to An Act to amend the Auditor General Act, S.C. 1995, c. 43, sbs. 24(1). -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-361-436. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Environment and Sustainable Development)

-- by Mrs. Stewart (Minister of the Environment) -- Sustainable Development Strategy of the Federal Office of Regional Development (Quebec), pursuant to An Act to amend the Auditor General Act, S.C. 1995, c. 43, sbs. 24(1). -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-361-450. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Environment and Sustainable Development)

-- by Mrs. Stewart (Minister of the Environment) -- Sustainable Development Strategy of the Department of Finance, pursuant to An Act to amend the Auditor General Act, S.C. 1995, c. 43, sbs. 24(1). -- Sessional Paper No. 8560- 361-452. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Environment and Sustainable Development)

-- by Mrs. Stewart (Minister of the Environment) -- Sustainable Development Strategy of the Department of Fisheries and Oceans, pursuant to An Act to amend the Auditor General Act, S.C. 1995, c. 43, sbs. 24(1). -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-361-460. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Environment and Sustainable Development)

-- by Mrs. Stewart (Minister of the Environment) -- Sustainable Development Strategy of the Department of Foreign Affairs and International Trade, pursuant to An Act to amend the Auditor General Act, S.C. 1995, c. 43, sbs. 24(1). -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-361-473. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Environment and Sustainable Development)

-- by Mrs. Stewart (Minister of the Environment) -- Sustainable Development Strategy of the Department of Health, pursuant to An Act to amend the Auditor General Act, S.C. 1995, c. 43, sbs. 24(1). -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-361-477. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Environment and Sustainable Development)

-- by Mrs. Stewart (Minister of the Environment) -- Sustainable Development Strategy of the Department of Human Resources Development, pursuant to An Act to amend the Auditor General Act, S.C. 1995, c. 43, sbs. 24(1). -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-361-481. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Environment and Sustainable Development)

-- by Mrs. Stewart (Minister of the Environment) -- Sustainable Development Strategy of the Department of Indian Affairs and Northern Development, pursuant to An Act to amend the Auditor General Act, S.C. 1995, c. 43, sbs. 24(1). -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-361-484. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Environment and Sustainable Development)

-- by Mrs. Stewart (Minister of the Environment) -- Sustainable Development Strategy of the Department of Industry, pursuant to An Act to amend the Auditor General Act, S.C. 1995, c. 43, sbs. 24(1). -- Sessional Paper No. 8560- 361-491. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Environment and Sustainable Development)

-- by Mrs. Stewart (Minister of the Environment) -- Sustainable Development Strategy of the Department of Justice, pursuant to An Act to amend the Auditor General Act, S.C. 1995, c. 43, sbs. 24(1). -- Sessional Paper No. 8560- 361-493. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Environment and Sustainable Development)

-- by Mrs. Stewart (Minister of the Environment) -- Sustainable Development Strategy of the Department of National Defence, pursuant to An Act to amend the Auditor General Act, S.C. 1995, c. 43, sbs. 24(1). -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-361-494. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Environment and Sustainable Development)

-- by Mrs. Stewart (Minister of the Environment) -- Sustainable Development Strategy of the Canadian Environmental Assessment Agency, pursuant to An Act to amend the Auditor General Act, S.C. 1995, c. 43, sbs. 24(1). -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-361-503. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Environment and Sustainable Development)

-- by Mrs. Stewart (Minister of the Environment) -- Sustainable Development Strategy of the Department of National Revenue, pursuant to An Act to amend the Auditor General Act, S.C. 1995, c. 43, sbs. 24(1). -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-361-506. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Environment and Sustainable Development)

-- by Mrs. Stewart (Minister of the Environment) -- Sustainable Development Strategy of the Department of Natural Resources, pursuant to An Act to amend the Auditor General Act, S.C. 1995, c. 43, sbs. 24(1). -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-361-507. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Environment and Sustainable Development)

-- by Mrs. Stewart (Minister of the Environment) -- Sustainable Development Strategy of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, pursuant to An Act to amend the Auditor General Act, S.C. 1995, c. 43, sbs. 24(1). -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-361-514. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Environment and Sustainable Development)

-- by Mrs. Stewart (Minister of the Environment) -- Sustainable Development Strategy of the Department of the Solicitor General, pursuant to An Act to amend the Auditor General Act, S.C. 1995, c. 43, sbs. 24(1). -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-361-517. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Environment and Sustainable Development)

-- by Mrs. Stewart (Minister of the Environment) -- Sustainable Development Strategy of the Department of Transport, pursuant to An Act to amend the Auditor General Act, S.C. 1995, c. 43, sbs. 24(1). -- Sessional Paper No. 8560- 361-522. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Environment and Sustainable Development)

-- by Mrs. Stewart (Minister of the Environment) -- Sustainable Development Strategy of the Treasury Board Secretariat, pursuant to An Act to amend the Auditor General Act, S.C. 1995, c. 43, sbs. 24(1). -- Sessional Paper No. 8560- 361-524. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Environment and Sustainable Development)

-- by Mrs. Stewart (Minister of the Environment) -- Sustainable Development Strategy of the Department of Veterans Affairs, pursuant to An Act to amend the Auditor General Act, S.C. 1995, c. 43, sbs. 24(1). -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-361-536. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Environment and Sustainable Development)

-- by Mrs. Stewart (Minister of the Environment) -- Sustainable Development Strategy of the Department of Western Economic Diversification, pursuant to An Act to amend the Auditor General Act, S.C. 1995, c. 43, sbs. 24(1). -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-361-537. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Environment and Sustainable Development)

PROCEEDINGS ON ADJOURNMENT MOTION

At 6:15 p.m., by unanimous consent, the question "That this House do now adjourn" was deemed to have been proposed.

After debate, the question was deemed to have been adopted.

ADJOURNMENT

At 6:50 p.m., the Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow at 10:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).

CORRIGENDUM

(Journals No. 47 of Tuesday, December 9, 1997)

Under Division No. 67, at page 376, add to the ``YEAS'' the name of Mr. Bélair and delete it from the ``NAYS''. (The new total should be: Yeas: 212 Nays: 52)