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HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA
36th PARLIAMENT, 1st SESSION


JOURNALS

No. 056

Tuesday, February 10, 1998

10:00 a.m.



PRAYERS

DAILY ROUTINE OF BUSINESS

Tabling of Documents

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Adams (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to the following petitions:

-- Nos. 361-0254, 361-0255, 361-0256, 361-0257, 361-0258, 361- 0259 and 361-0260 concerning the Canadian flag. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-361-15D.

Introduction of Private Members' Bills

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Mark (Dauphin -- Swan River), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yellowhead), Bill C-312, An Act to amend the Income Tax Act (percentage of gifts that may be deducted from tax), was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Presenting Petitions

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were presented as follows:

-- by Mr. Szabo (Mississauga South), one concerning police and firefighters' death benefits (No. 361-0406);

-- by Mr. Strahl (Fraser Valley), one concerning the Food and Drugs Act (No. 361-0407), one concerning the sexual exploitation of minors (No. 361-0408) and one concerning the theft of motor vehicles (No. 361-0409);

-- by Mr. Blaikie (Winnipeg Transcona), two concerning international trade (Nos. 361-0410 and 361-0411) and one concerning nuclear weapons (No. 361- 0412);

-- by Mr. Mayfield (Cariboo -- Chilcotin), one concerning the sexual exploitation of minors (No. 361-0413) and one concerning the regulation of food and drugs (No. 361-0414);

-- by Ms. Davies (Vancouver East), one concerning nuclear weapons (No. 361- 0415), one concerning the Canada Pension Plan (No. 361-0416) and two concerning international trade (Nos. 361-0417 and 361-0418);

-- by Mr. Godin (Acadie -- Bathurst), one concerning international trade (No. 361-0419).

Questions on Order Paper

Mr. Adams (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) presented the answer to question Q-54 on the Order Paper.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The Order was read for the consideration of the Business of Supply.

Mr. Duceppe (Laurier -- Sainte-Marie), seconded by Ms. Debien (Laval East), moved, -- That this House recognize the consensus in Quebec that it is for Quebecers to decide freely their own future.

Debate arose thereon.

Mr. Bellehumeur (Berthier -- Montcalm), seconded by Ms. Tremblay (Rimouski -- Mitis), moved the following amendment, -- That the motion be amended by adding the word ``alone'' between the words ``Quebecers'' and ``to decide''.

Debate arose thereon.

STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

ORAL QUESTIONS

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

WAYS AND MEANS

Pursuant to Standing Order 83(2), at the request of Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance), an Order of the Day was designated for the consideration of a Ways and Means motion for a Budget presentation on Tuesday, February 24, 1998, at 4:30 p.m.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Duceppe (Laurier -- Sainte-Marie), seconded by Ms. Debien (Laval East), in relation to the Business of Supply;

And of the amendment of Mr. Bellehumeur (Berthier -- Montcalm), seconded by Ms. Tremblay (Rimouski -- Mitis).

The debate continued.

At 5:15 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 81(16), the Speaker interrupted the proceedings.

The question was put on the amendment and it was negatived on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 70)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Alarie -- Asselin -- Bachand --  (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Bellehumeur -- Bergeron -- Bernier --  (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Bigras -- Borotsik -- Brien -- Brison -- Charest -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Crête -- Dalphond-Guiral -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Doyle -- Dubé --  (Madawaska -- Restigouche) -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Fournier -- Gagnon -- Gauthier -- Girard-Bujold -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Guay -- Guimond -- Harvey -- Herron -- Jones -- Keddy --  (South Shore) -- Lalonde -- Laurin -- Lebel -- Lefebvre -- Loubier -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Marceau -- Matthews -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Muise -- Perron -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Power -- Price -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- St-Hilaire -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Turp -- Wayne -- 54

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Adams -- Alcock -- Anders -- Anderson -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy --  (Saskatoon -- Rosetown -- Biggar) -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bailey -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Bevilacqua -- Blaikie -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Breitkreuz --  (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Cadman -- Calder -- Cannis -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Casson -- Catterall -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Chatters -- Chrétien --  (Saint-Maurice) -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Copps -- Cullen -- Cummins -- Davies -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Drouin -- Duhamel -- Duncan -- Earle -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Elley -- Epp -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Forseth -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gallaway -- Gilmour -- Godfrey -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Goodale -- Gouk -- Graham -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Guarnieri -- Hanger -- Harb -- Hardy -- Harris -- Hart -- Harvard -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hilstrom -- Hoeppner -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Jackson -- Jaffer -- Jennings -- Johnston -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Karygiannis -- Kenney --  (Calgary-Sud-Est) -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Laliberte -- Lastewka -- Lavigne -- Lee -- Leung -- Lincoln -- Lowther -- Lunn -- MacAulay -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Manning -- Marchi -- Mark -- Martin --  (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- Mayfield -- McCormick -- McDonough -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McNally -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Meredith -- Mifflin -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Morrison -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Normand -- Nystrom -- Obhrai -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Pankiw -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Penson -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Pickard --  (Kent -- Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Proctor -- Proud -- Provenzano -- Ramsay -- Redman -- Reed -- Reynolds -- Richardson -- Ritz -- Robillard -- Rock -- Saada -- Schmidt -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Solberg -- Solomon -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- Stinson -- St-Julien -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Thompson --  (Wild Rose) -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Volpe -- Wappel -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Whelan -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- Wilfert -- Williams -- Wood -- 201

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Bertrand -- Canuel -- Desrochers -- Dubé --  (Lévis) -- Longfield -- Marleau -- O'Brien --  (Labrador) -- Pratt -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Venne

Pursuant to Standing Order 81(16), the House proceeded to the putting of the question on the main motion of Mr. Duceppe (Laurier -- Sainte-Marie), seconded by Ms. Debien (Laval East).

The question was put on the main motion and it was negatived on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 71)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Alarie -- Asselin -- Axworthy --  (Saskatoon -- Rosetown -- Biggar) -- Bachand --  (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Bellehumeur -- Bergeron -- Bernier --  (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Bigras -- Blaikie -- Borotsik -- Brien -- Brison -- Charest -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Crête -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Davies -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Doyle -- Dubé --  (Madawaska -- Restigouche) -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Earle -- Fournier -- Gagnon -- Gauthier -- Girard-Bujold -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Guay -- Guimond -- Hardy -- Harvey -- Herron -- Jones -- Keddy --  (South Shore) -- Laliberte -- Lalonde -- Laurin -- Lebel -- Lefebvre -- Loubier -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Marceau -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- Matthews -- McDonough -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Muise -- Nystrom -- Perron -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Power -- Price -- Proctor -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Solomon -- St-Hilaire -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Turp -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Wayne -- 67

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Adams -- Alcock -- Anders -- Anderson -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bailey -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Bevilacqua -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Breitkreuz --  (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Cadman -- Calder -- Cannis -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Casson -- Catterall -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Chatters -- Chrétien --  (Saint-Maurice) -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Copps -- Cullen -- Cummins -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Drouin -- Duhamel -- Duncan -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Elley -- Epp -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Forseth -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gallaway -- Gilmour -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Gouk -- Graham -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Harris -- Hart -- Harvard -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hilstrom -- Hoeppner -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Jackson -- Jaffer -- Jennings -- Johnston -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Karygiannis -- Kenney --  (Calgary-Sud-Est) -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lavigne -- Lee -- Leung -- Lincoln -- Lowther -- Lunn -- MacAulay -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Manning -- Marchi -- Mark -- Martin --  (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Mayfield -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McNally -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Meredith -- Mifflin -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Morrison -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Normand -- Obhrai -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Pankiw -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Penson -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Pickard --  (Kent -- Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Proud -- Provenzano -- Ramsay -- Redman -- Reed -- Reynolds -- Richardson -- Ritz -- Robillard -- Rock -- Saada -- Schmidt -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Solberg -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- Stinson -- St-Julien -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Thompson --  (Wild Rose) -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Volpe -- Wappel -- Whelan -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- Wilfert -- Williams -- Wood -- 187

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Bertrand -- Canuel -- Desrochers -- Dubé --  (Lévis) -- Longfield -- Marleau -- O'Brien --  (Labrador) -- Pratt -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Venne

PRIVATE MEMBERS' BUSINESS

At 6:02 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 30(7), the House proceeded to the consideration of Private Members' Business.

The Order was read for the second reading and reference to the Standing Committee on Human Resources Development and the Status of Persons with Disabilities of Bill C-233, An Act to provide for the settlement of labour disputes affecting west coast ports by final offer arbitration.

Mr. Johnston (Wetaskiwin), seconded by Mr. Gouk (West Kootenay -- Okanagan), moved, -- That the Bill be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Human Resources Development and the Status of Persons with Disabilities.

Debate arose thereon.

Pursuant to Standing Order 96(1), the Order was dropped from the Order Paper.

PETITIONS FILED WITH THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were filed as follows:

-- by Mr. Strahl (Fraser Valley), one concerning nudity (No. 361-0420) and one concerning parental rights (No. 361-0421);

-- by Mrs. Chamberlain (Guelph -- Wellington), eleven concerning the Canadian flag (Nos. 361-0422 to 361-0432) and one concerning the Port of Churchill (No. 361-0433).

PROCEEDINGS ON ADJOURNMENT MOTION

At 6:50 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 38(1), the question "That this House do now adjourn" was deemed to have been proposed.

After debate, the question was deemed to have been adopted.

ADJOURNMENT

At 7:06 p.m., the Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow at 2:00 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).