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HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA
36th PARLIAMENT, 2nd SESSION
JOURNALS
No. 122
Tuesday, September 26, 2000
10:00 a.m.
PRAYERS
DAILY ROUTINE OF BUSINESS
Tabling of Documents
Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Lee (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to the following petitions:
-- No. 362-1570 concerning the income tax system. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-362-15-19;
-- No. 362-1596 concerning the tax system. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-362-17-25.
Introduction of Private Members' Bills
Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Ms. Wasylycia-Leis (Winnipeg North Centre), seconded by Ms. Hardy (Yukon), Bill C-497, An Act to amend the Federal-Provincial Fiscal Arrangements Act (prevention of private hospitals), was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.
Presenting Petitions
Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were presented as follows:
-- by Mr. Harb (Ottawa Centre), one concerning pay equity (No. 362-1660);
-- by Mr. Asselin (Charlevoix), one concerning the St. Lawrence River (No. 362-1661);
-- by Ms. Wasylycia-Leis (Winnipeg North Centre), one concerning health care services (No. 362-1662);
-- by Mr. Earle (Halifax West), one concerning organ transplants (No. 362-1663) and one concerning health care services (No. 362-1664).
GOVERNMENT ORDERS
The Order was read for the consideration at report stage of Bill C-14, An Act respecting an agreement with the Norway House Cree Nation for the settlement of matters arising from the flooding of land, and respecting the establishment of certain reserves in the province of Manitoba, as reported by the Standing Committee on Aboriginal Affairs and Northern Development.
Pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(5), the Speaker selected and grouped for debate the following motions:
Group No. 1 -- Motions Nos. 1 to 4.
Group No. 1
Mr. Bachand (Saint-Jean), seconded by Mr. Chrétien (Frontenac -- Mégantic), moved Motion No. 1, -- That Bill C-14, in Clause 6, be amended by replacing line 29 on page 2 with the following:
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"6. A right or claim provided for by both the Flood"
Mr. Bachand (Saint-Jean), seconded by Mr. Chrétien (Frontenac -- Mégantic), moved Motion No. 2, -- That Bill C-14, in Clause 6, be amended by replacing line 48 on page 2 with the following:
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"only in accordance with the Agreement except in respect of any
treaty right or claim arising from such a right, including any
treaty right or claim arising from the Flood Agreement, in which
case the Flood Agreement shall prevail."
Mr. Bachand (Saint-Jean), seconded by Mr. Chrétien (Frontenac -- Mégantic), moved Motion No. 3, -- That Bill C-14 be amended by adding after line 6 on page 3 the following new clause:
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"7.1 Nothing in this Act or in the Agreement shall be
interpreted as affecting, abrogating or derogating from the
existing aboriginal rights or the treaty rights of the first
nation or of any member of the first nation."
Mr. Chan (Secretary of State (Asia-Pacific)) for Mr. Nault (Minister of Indian Affairs and Northern Development), seconded by Mr. Mitchell (Secretary of State (Rural Development)), moved Motion No. 4, -- That Bill C-14 be amended by deleting Clause 14.
Debate arose on the motions in Group No. 1.
MOTIONS
By unanimous consent, it was ordered, -- That the recorded divisions scheduled to be taken at the end of Government Orders today be taken at 6:15 p.m.
GOVERNMENT ORDERS
The House resumed consideration at report stage of Bill C-14, An Act respecting an agreement with the Norway House Cree Nation for the settlement of matters arising from the flooding of land, and respecting the establishment of certain reserves in the province of Manitoba, as reported by the Standing Committee on Aboriginal Affairs and Northern Development;
And of the motions in Group No. 1 (Motions Nos. 1 to 4).
The debate continued on the motions in Group No. 1.
The question was put on Motion No. 1 and, by unanimous consent, the recorded division, which also applies to Motion No. 2, was deferred until later this day, at the expiry of the time provided for Government Orders.
The question was put on Motion No. 3 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred until later this day, at the expiry of the time provided for Government Orders.
The question was put on Motion No. 4 and it was agreed to.
The Order was read for the second reading and reference to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights of Bill C-17, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (cruelty to animals, disarming a peace officer and other amendments) and the Firearms Act (technical amendments).
Ms. Fry (Secretary of State (Multiculturalism)(Status of Women)) for Ms. McLellan (Minister of Justice), seconded by Mr. Chan (Secretary of State (Asia-Pacific)), moved, -- That the Bill be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights.
Debate arose thereon.
STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS
Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.
ORAL QUESTIONS
Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.
GOVERNMENT ORDERS
The House resumed consideration of the motion of Ms. McLellan (Minister of Justice), seconded by Mr. Chan (Secretary of State (Asia-Pacific)), -- That Bill C-17, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (cruelty to animals, disarming a peace officer and other amendments) and the Firearms Act (technical amendments), be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights.
The debate continued.
At 6:15 p.m., pursuant to Order made earlier today and to Order made Wednesday, September 20, 2000, the House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Kenney (Calgary Southeast), seconded by Mr. Martin (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca), -- That, in the opinion of this House, the government should take all necessary steps to release the 1911 census records once they have been deposited in the National Archives in 2003. (Private Members' Business M-160)
The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the amendment of Mr. Harb (Ottawa Centre), seconded by Mr. Clouthier (Renfrew -- Nipissing -- Pembroke), -- That the motion be amended by replacing the word ``take'' with the following:
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``consider taking''.
The question was put on the amendment and it was agreed on the following division:
(Division--Vote No 1387)
YEAS-POUR
Members--Députés
-- Alcock -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Brown -- Bulte -- Cannis -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Comuzzi -- Cotler -- Crête -- Cullen -- Debien -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Dubé -- (Lévis-et-Chutes-de-la-Chaudière) -- Duhamel -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Graham -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Harvard -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Karygiannis -- Keyes -- Kilger -- (Stormont -- Dundas -- Charlottenburgh) -- Kilgour -- (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Laurin -- Lavigne -- Lee -- Lefebvre -- Leung -- Limoges -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- MacAulay -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marleau -- Matthews -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKay -- (Scarborough East) -- McLellan -- (Edmonton West) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Mitchell -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Normand -- O'Brien -- (Labrador) -- O'Brien -- (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Pickard -- (Chatham -- Kent Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Price -- Proud -- Proulx -- Redman -- Reed -- Richardson -- Robillard -- Rocheleau -- Rock -- Saada -- Scott -- (Fredericton) -- Sekora -- Sgro -- Shepherd -- St. Denis -- St-Jacques -- St-Julien -- Steckle -- Stewart -- (Brant) -- Stewart -- (Northumberland) -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Volpe -- Wappel -- Whelan -- Wilfert -- Wood -- 144
NAYS-CONTRE
Members--Députés
-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Anders -- Asselin -- Bachand -- (Saint-Jean) -- Bellehumeur -- Benoit -- Bergeron -- Bernier -- (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Bernier -- (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Blaikie -- Borotsik -- Breitkreuz -- (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brien -- Bryden -- Cadman -- Calder -- Cardin -- Casson -- Chatters -- Clark -- Cummins -- Davies -- Day -- de Savoye -- Desjarlais -- Dockrill -- Doyle -- Dubé -- (Madawaska -- Restigouche) -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Duncan -- Earle -- Epp -- Forseth -- Gagnon -- Gauthier -- Gilmour -- Girard-Bujold -- Godin -- (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Godin -- (Châteauguay) -- Goldring -- Gouk -- Grewal -- Grey -- (Edmonton North) -- Gruending -- Guimond -- Hardy -- Hearn -- Herron -- Hill -- (Macleod) -- Hill -- (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Johnston -- Keddy -- (South Shore) -- Kenney -- (Calgary Southeast) -- Konrad -- Lebel -- Lill -- Loubier -- Lowther -- Lunn -- MacKay -- (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Manning -- Marceau -- Mark -- Mayfield -- McNally -- Mercier -- Meredith -- Milliken -- Mills -- (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Nunziata -- Nystrom -- Obhrai -- Pankiw -- Penson -- Perron -- Proctor -- Reynolds -- Riis -- Ritz -- Robinson -- Sauvageau -- Schmidt -- Scott -- (Skeena) -- St-Hilaire -- Stinson -- Stoffer -- Strahl -- Thompson -- (New Brunswick Southwest) -- Thompson -- (Wild Rose) -- Turp -- Vautour -- Vellacott -- Venne -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Wayne -- White -- (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- White -- (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- 102
Pursuant to Order made Wednesday, September 20, 2000, the House proceeded to the putting of the question on the main motion, as amended, of Mr. Kenney (Calgary Southeast), seconded by Mr. Martin (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca), -- That, in the opinion of this House, the government should consider taking all necessary steps to release the 1911 census records once they have been deposited in the National Archives in 2003.
The question was put on the main motion, as amended, and it was agreed to on division.
Pursuant to Order made Wednesday, September 20, 2000, the House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Hill (Prince George -- Peace River), seconded by Mr. Benoit (Lakeland), -- That given the record increases in the price of gasoline and home and diesel fuel, severely hurting Canadian consumers, truck drivers and businesses, and given the recent promise by the Minister of Finance to reduce taxes, this House call upon the government to give relief on fuel taxes, including repealing the increase in gasoline excise tax introduced as a temporary deficit elimination measure in 1995 and implementing the 1998 recommendation of the Liberal Caucus committee on gasoline pricing in Canada to remove the double taxation of the GST.
The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the amendment of Mr. Kenney (Calgary Southeast), seconded by Mr. Solberg (Medicine Hat), -- That the motion be amended by adding the word ``immediate'' after the word ``give''.
The question was put on the amendment and it was negatived on the following division:
(Division--Vote No 1388)
YEAS-POUR
Members--Députés
-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Anders -- Asselin -- Bachand -- (Saint-Jean) -- Bellehumeur -- Benoit -- Bergeron -- Bernier -- (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Bernier -- (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Blaikie -- Borotsik -- Breitkreuz -- (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brien -- Cadman -- Cardin -- Casson -- Chatters -- Clark -- Crête -- Cummins -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Day -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desjarlais -- Dockrill -- Doyle -- Dubé -- (Lévis-et-Chutes-de-la-Chaudière) -- Dubé -- (Madawaska -- Restigouche) -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Duncan -- Earle -- Epp -- Forseth -- Gagnon -- Gauthier -- Gilmour -- Girard-Bujold -- Godin -- (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Godin -- (Châteauguay) -- Goldring -- Gouk -- Grewal -- Grey -- (Edmonton North) -- Gruending -- Guimond -- Hardy -- Harvey -- Hearn -- Herron -- Hill -- (Macleod) -- Hill -- (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Johnston -- Keddy -- (South Shore) -- Kenney -- (Calgary Southeast) -- Konrad -- Laurin -- Lebel -- Lefebvre -- Lill -- Loubier -- Lowther -- Lunn -- MacKay -- (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Manning -- Marceau -- Marchand -- Mark -- Mayfield -- McNally -- Mercier -- Meredith -- Mills -- (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Nunziata -- Nystrom -- Obhrai -- Pankiw -- Penson -- Perron -- Proctor -- Reynolds -- Riis -- Ritz -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Schmidt -- Scott -- (Skeena) -- St-Hilaire -- Stinson -- Stoffer -- Strahl -- Thompson -- (New Brunswick Southwest) -- Thompson -- (Wild Rose) -- Turp -- Vautour -- Vellacott -- Venne -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Wayne -- White -- (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- White -- (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- 106
NAYS-CONTRE
Members--Députés
-- Alcock -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Calder -- Cannis -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Chrétien -- (Saint-Maurice) -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Comuzzi -- Cotler -- Cullen -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Duhamel -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Graham -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Harvard -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Karygiannis -- Keyes -- Kilger -- (Stormont -- Dundas -- Charlottenburgh) -- Kilgour -- (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lavigne -- Lee -- Leung -- Limoges -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- MacAulay -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marleau -- Matthews -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKay -- (Scarborough East) -- McLellan -- (Edmonton West) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mitchell -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Normand -- O'Brien -- (Labrador) -- O'Brien -- (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Pickard -- (Chatham -- Kent Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Price -- Proud -- Proulx -- Redman -- Reed -- Richardson -- Robillard -- Rock -- Saada -- Scott -- (Fredericton) -- Sekora -- Sgro -- Shepherd -- St. Denis -- St-Jacques -- Steckle -- Stewart -- (Brant) -- Stewart -- (Northumberland) -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Volpe -- Wappel -- Whelan -- Wilfert -- Wood -- 141
Pursuant to Standing Order 81(16), the question was put on the main motion and it was negatived on the following division:
(Division--Vote No 1389)
YEAS-POUR
Members--Députés
-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Anders -- Asselin -- Bachand -- (Saint-Jean) -- Bellehumeur -- Benoit -- Bergeron -- Bernier -- (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Bernier -- (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Blaikie -- Borotsik -- Breitkreuz -- (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brien -- Cadman -- Cardin -- Casson -- Chatters -- Clark -- Crête -- Cummins -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Day -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desjarlais -- Dockrill -- Doyle -- Dubé -- (Lévis-et-Chutes-de-la-Chaudière) -- Dubé -- (Madawaska -- Restigouche) -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Duncan -- Earle -- Epp -- Forseth -- Gagnon -- Gauthier -- Gilmour -- Girard-Bujold -- Godin -- (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Godin -- (Châteauguay) -- Goldring -- Gouk -- Grewal -- Grey -- (Edmonton North) -- Gruending -- Guimond -- Hardy -- Harvey -- Hearn -- Herron -- Hill -- (Macleod) -- Hill -- (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Johnston -- Keddy -- (South Shore) -- Kenney -- (Calgary Southeast) -- Konrad -- Laurin -- Lebel -- Lefebvre -- Lill -- Loubier -- Lowther -- Lunn -- MacKay -- (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Manning -- Marceau -- Marchand -- Mark -- Mayfield -- McNally -- Mercier -- Meredith -- Mills -- (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Nunziata -- Nystrom -- Obhrai -- Pankiw -- Penson -- Perron -- Proctor -- Reynolds -- Riis -- Ritz -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Schmidt -- Scott -- (Skeena) -- St-Hilaire -- Stinson -- Stoffer -- Strahl -- Thompson -- (New Brunswick Southwest) -- Thompson -- (Wild Rose) -- Turp -- Vautour -- Vellacott -- Venne -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Wayne -- White -- (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- White -- (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- 106
NAYS-CONTRE
Members--Députés
-- Alcock -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Calder -- Cannis -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Chrétien -- (Saint-Maurice) -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Comuzzi -- Cotler -- Cullen -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Duhamel -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Graham -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Harvard -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Karygiannis -- Keyes -- Kilger -- (Stormont -- Dundas -- Charlottenburgh) -- Kilgour -- (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lavigne -- Lee -- Leung -- Limoges -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- MacAulay -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marleau -- Matthews -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKay -- (Scarborough East) -- McLellan -- (Edmonton West) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mitchell -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Normand -- O'Brien -- (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Pickard -- (Chatham -- Kent Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Price -- Proud -- Proulx -- Redman -- Reed -- Richardson -- Robillard -- Rock -- Saada -- Scott -- (Fredericton) -- Sekora -- Sgro -- Shepherd -- St. Denis -- St-Jacques -- Steckle -- Stewart -- (Brant) -- Stewart -- (Northumberland) -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Volpe -- Wappel -- Whelan -- Wilfert -- Wood -- 140
Pursuant to Order made Friday, September 22, 2000, the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the motion of Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance), seconded by Ms. Robillard (President of the Treasury Board), -- That Bill C-38, An Act to establish the Financial Consumer Agency of Canada and to amend certain Acts in relation to financial institutions, be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Finance.
The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:
(Division--Vote No 1390)
YEAS-POUR
Members--Députés
-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Alcock -- Anders -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Benoit -- Bernier -- (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Borotsik -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Breitkreuz -- (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Cadman -- Calder -- Cannis -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Casson -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Chatters -- Clark -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Comuzzi -- Cotler -- Cullen -- Cummins -- Day -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Doyle -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Dubé -- (Madawaska -- Restigouche) -- Duhamel -- Duncan -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Epp -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Forseth -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gilmour -- Godfrey -- Goldring -- Goodale -- Gouk -- Graham -- Grewal -- Grey -- (Edmonton North) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Harvard -- Harvey -- Hearn -- Herron -- Hill -- (Macleod) -- Hill -- (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Johnston -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Karygiannis -- Keddy -- (South Shore) -- Kenney -- (Calgary Southeast) -- Keyes -- Kilger -- (Stormont -- Dundas -- Charlottenburgh) -- Kilgour -- (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Konrad -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lavigne -- Lee -- Lefebvre -- Leung -- Limoges -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- Lowther -- Lunn -- MacAulay -- MacKay -- (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Manning -- Mark -- Marleau -- Matthews -- Mayfield -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKay -- (Scarborough East) -- McLellan -- (Edmonton West) -- McNally -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Meredith -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills -- (Red Deer) -- Mitchell -- Morrison -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Normand -- Nunziata -- O'Brien -- (Labrador) -- O'Brien -- (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Obhrai -- Pagtakhan -- Pankiw -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Penson -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Pickard -- (Chatham -- Kent Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Price -- Proud -- Proulx -- Redman -- Reed -- Reynolds -- Richardson -- Ritz -- Robillard -- Rock -- Saada -- Schmidt -- Scott -- (Fredericton) -- Scott -- (Skeena) -- Sekora -- Sgro -- Shepherd -- St. Denis -- St-Jacques -- St-Julien -- Steckle -- Stewart -- (Brant) -- Stewart -- (Northumberland) -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Thompson -- (New Brunswick Southwest) -- Thompson -- (Wild Rose) -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Vautour -- Vellacott -- Volpe -- Wappel -- Wayne -- Whelan -- White -- (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- White -- (North Vancouver) -- Wilfert -- Williams -- Wood -- 203
NAYS-CONTRE
Members--Députés
-- Asselin -- Bachand -- (Saint-Jean) -- Bellehumeur -- Bergeron -- Bernier -- (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Blaikie -- Brien -- Cardin -- Crête -- Dalphond-Guiral -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Dockrill -- Dubé -- (Lévis-et-Chutes-de-la-Chaudière) -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Earle -- Gagnon -- Gauthier -- Girard-Bujold -- Godin -- (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Godin -- (Châteauguay) -- Gruending -- Guimond -- Hardy -- Laurin -- Lebel -- Lill -- Loubier -- Marceau -- Marchand -- Mercier -- Nystrom -- Perron -- Proctor -- Riis -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- St-Hilaire -- Stoffer -- Turp -- Venne -- Wasylycia-Leis -- 43
Accordingly, the Bill was read the second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Finance.
Pursuant to Order made earlier this day, the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded divisions at report stage of Bill C-14, An Act respecting an agreement with the Norway House Cree Nation for the settlement of matters arising from the flooding of land, and respecting the establishment of certain reserves in the province of Manitoba, as deemed reported by a committee without amendment.
The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 1 of Mr. Bachand (Saint-Jean), seconded by Mr. Chrétien (Frontenac -- Mégantic), -- That Bill C-14, in Clause 6, be amended by replacing line 29 on page 2 with the following:
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"6. A right or claim provided for by both the Flood"
The question was put on Motion No. 1 and it was negatived on the following division:
(Division--Vote No 1391)
YEAS-POUR
Members--Députés
-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Anders -- Asselin -- Bachand -- (Saint-Jean) -- Bellehumeur -- Benoit -- Bergeron -- Bernier -- (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Blaikie -- Breitkreuz -- (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brien -- Cadman -- Cardin -- Casson -- Chatters -- Crête -- Cummins -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Day -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desjarlais -- Dockrill -- Dubé -- (Lévis-et-Chutes-de-la-Chaudière) -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Duncan -- Earle -- Epp -- Forseth -- Gagnon -- Gauthier -- Gilmour -- Girard-Bujold -- Godin -- (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Godin -- (Châteauguay) -- Goldring -- Gouk -- Grewal -- Grey -- (Edmonton North) -- Gruending -- Guimond -- Hardy -- Hill -- (Macleod) -- Hill -- (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Johnston -- Kenney -- (Calgary Southeast) -- Konrad -- Laurin -- Lebel -- Lefebvre -- Lill -- Loubier -- Lowther -- Lunn -- Manning -- Marceau -- Marchand -- Mark -- Mayfield -- McNally -- Mercier -- Meredith -- Mills -- (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Nunziata -- Nystrom -- Obhrai -- Pankiw -- Penson -- Perron -- Proctor -- Reynolds -- Riis -- Ritz -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Schmidt -- Scott -- (Skeena) -- St-Hilaire -- Stinson -- Stoffer -- Strahl -- Thompson -- (Wild Rose) -- Turp -- Vellacott -- Venne -- Wasylycia-Leis -- White -- (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- White -- (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- 93
NAYS-CONTRE
Members--Députés
-- Alcock -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Bernier -- (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Borotsik -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Calder -- Cannis -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Clark -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Comuzzi -- Cotler -- Cullen -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Doyle -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Dubé -- (Madawaska -- Restigouche) -- Duhamel -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Graham -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Harvard -- Harvey -- Hearn -- Herron -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Karygiannis -- Keddy -- (South Shore) -- Keyes -- Kilger -- (Stormont -- Dundas -- Charlottenburgh) -- Kilgour -- (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lavigne -- Lee -- Leung -- Limoges -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- MacAulay -- MacKay -- (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marleau -- Matthews -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKay -- (Scarborough East) -- McLellan -- (Edmonton West) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mitchell -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Normand -- O'Brien -- (Labrador) -- O'Brien -- (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Pickard -- (Chatham -- Kent Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Price -- Proud -- Proulx -- Redman -- Reed -- Richardson -- Robillard -- Rock -- Saada -- Scott -- (Fredericton) -- Sekora -- Sgro -- Shepherd -- St. Denis -- St-Jacques -- St-Julien -- Steckle -- Stewart -- (Brant) -- Stewart -- (Northumberland) -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Thompson -- (New Brunswick Southwest) -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Vautour -- Volpe -- Wappel -- Wayne -- Whelan -- Wilfert -- Wood -- 154
Accordingly, Motion No. 2 was also negatived on the same division.
The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 3 of Mr. Bachand (Saint-Jean), seconded by Mr. Chrétien (Frontenac -- Mégantic), -- That Bill C-14 be amended by adding after line 6 on page 3 the following new clause:
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"7.1 Nothing in this Act or in the Agreement shall be
interpreted as affecting, abrogating or derogating from the
existing aboriginal rights or the treaty rights of the first
nation or of any member of the first nation."
The question was put on Motion No. 3 and it was negatived on the following division:
(Division No. 1392)
YEAS: 93, NAYS: 154. (See list under Division No. 1391)
Mr. Nault (Minister of Indian Affairs and Northern Development), seconded by Mr. Boudria (Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), moved, -- That Bill C-14, An Act respecting an agreement with the Norway House Cree Nation for the settlement of matters arising from the flooding of land, and respecting the establishment of certain reserves in the province of Manitoba, be concurred in at report stage with an amendment.
The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:
(Division--Vote No 1393)
YEAS-POUR
Members--Députés
-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Alcock -- Anders -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Benoit -- Bernier -- (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Blaikie -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Borotsik -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Breitkreuz -- (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Cadman -- Calder -- Cannis -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Casson -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Chatters -- Clark -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Comuzzi -- Cotler -- Cullen -- Cummins -- Day -- Desjarlais -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dockrill -- Doyle -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Dubé -- (Madawaska -- Restigouche) -- Duhamel -- Duncan -- Earle -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Epp -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Forseth -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gilmour -- Godfrey -- Godin -- (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Goldring -- Goodale -- Gouk -- Graham -- Grewal -- Grey -- (Edmonton North) -- Grose -- Gruending -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Hardy -- Harvard -- Hearn -- Herron -- Hill -- (Macleod) -- Hill -- (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Johnston -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Karygiannis -- Keddy -- (South Shore) -- Kenney -- (Calgary Southeast) -- Keyes -- Kilger -- (Stormont -- Dundas -- Charlottenburgh) -- Kilgour -- (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Konrad -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lavigne -- Lee -- Lefebvre -- Leung -- Lill -- Limoges -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- Lowther -- Lunn -- MacAulay -- MacKay -- (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Manning -- Mark -- Marleau -- Matthews -- Mayfield -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKay -- (Scarborough East) -- McLellan -- (Edmonton West) -- McNally -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Meredith -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills -- (Red Deer) -- Mitchell -- Morrison -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Normand -- Nunziata -- Nystrom -- O'Brien -- (Labrador) -- O'Brien -- (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Obhrai -- Pagtakhan -- Pankiw -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Penson -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Pickard -- (Chatham -- Kent Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Price -- Proctor -- Proud -- Proulx -- Redman -- Reed -- Reynolds -- Richardson -- Riis -- Ritz -- Robillard -- Rock -- Saada -- Schmidt -- Scott -- (Fredericton) -- Sekora -- Sgro -- Shepherd -- St. Denis -- St-Jacques -- St-Julien -- Steckle -- Stewart -- (Brant) -- Stewart -- (Northumberland) -- Stinson -- Stoffer -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Thompson -- (New Brunswick Southwest) -- Thompson -- (Wild Rose) -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Vautour -- Vellacott -- Volpe -- Wappel -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Wayne -- Whelan -- White -- (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- White -- (North Vancouver) -- Wilfert -- Williams -- Wood -- 214
NAYS-CONTRE
Members--Députés
-- Asselin -- Bachand -- (Saint-Jean) -- Bellehumeur -- Bergeron -- Bernier -- (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Brien -- Cardin -- Crête -- Dalphond-Guiral -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Dubé -- (Lévis-et-Chutes-de-la-Chaudière) -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Gagnon -- Gauthier -- Girard-Bujold -- Godin -- (Châteauguay) -- Guimond -- Harvey -- Laurin -- Lebel -- Loubier -- Marceau -- Marchand -- Mercier -- Perron -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- St-Hilaire -- Turp -- Venne -- 32
Accordingly, the Bill was concurred in at report stage with an amendment.
RETURNS AND REPORTS DEPOSITED WITH THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE
Pursuant to Standing Order 32(1), papers deposited with the Clerk of the House were laid upon the Table as follows:
-- by Ms. Caplan (Minister of Citizenship and Immigration) -- Report on Loans to Immigrants for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2000, pursuant to the Immigration Act, R.S. 1985, c. I-2, sbs. 119(4). -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-362-159-02. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Citizenship and Immigration)
-- by Ms. Caplan (Minister of Citizenship and Immigration) -- Reports of the Immigration and Refugee Board for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2000, pursuant to the Access to Information Act and to the Privacy Act, R. S. 1985, c. A-1 and P-21, sbs. 72(2). -- Sessional Paper No. 8561-362-548-02. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights)
-- by Ms. Caplan (Minister of Citizenship and Immigration) -- Reports of Citizenship and Immigration Canada for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2000, pursuant to the Access to Information Act and to the Privacy Act, R. S. 1985, c. A-1 and P-21, sbs. 72(2). -- Sessional Paper No. 8561-362-585-02. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights)
PROCEEDINGS ON ADJOURNMENT MOTION
At 7:29 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 38(1), the question "That this House do now adjourn" was deemed to have been proposed.
After debate, the question was deemed to have been adopted.
ADJOURNMENT
At 7:36 p.m., the Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow at 2:00 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).