HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA
37th PARLIAMENT, 1st SESSION

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JOURNALS

No. 119

Tuesday, November 27, 2001

10:00 a.m.

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The Clerk informed the House of the unavoidable absence of the Speaker.

Whereupon, Mr. Kilger (Stormont--Dundas--Charlottenburgh), Deputy Speaker and Chairman of Committees of the Whole, took the Chair, pursuant to subsection 43(1) of the Parliament of Canada Act.

Prayers

Daily Routine Of Business

Tabling of Documents

The Deputy Speaker laid upon the Table, -- Report of the Chief Electoral Officer of Canada following the 37th General Election entitled "Modernizing the Electoral Process", pursuant to the Canada Elections Act, S.C. 2000, c. 9, s. 536. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-371-4-03. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs)

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Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2),
Mr. Regan (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, — Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to the following petitions:

-- No. 371-0418 concerning China. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-371-36-10;

-- No. 371-0424 concerning gasoline additives. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-371-13-06.

Presenting Reports from Committees

Ms. Whelan (Essex), from the Standing Committee on Industry, Science and Technology, presented the Sixth Report of the Committee (Getting Back to Business). -- Sessional Paper No. 8510-371-97.

Pursuant to Standing Order 109, the Committee requested that the government table a comprehensive response.

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings (Meetings Nos. 44 to 47, 49, 52 and 53) was tabled.

Presenting Petitions

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, a petition certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions was presented as follows:

— by Mr. Hilstrom (Selkirk--Interlake), concerning the fishing industry (No. 371-0479).

Government Orders

Notice having been given at a previous sitting under the provisions of Standing Order 78(3), Mr. Boudria (Minister of State and Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), seconded by Ms. McLellan (Minister of Justice), moved, -- That, in relation to Bill C-36, An Act to amend the Criminal Code, the Official Secrets Act, the Canada Evidence Act, the Proceeds of Crime (Money Laundering) Act and other Acts, and to enact measures respecting the registration of charities in order to combat terrorism, not more than one further sitting day shall be allotted to the consideration at report stage of the Bill and one sitting day shall be allotted to the consideration at third reading stage of the said Bill; and

That, 15 minutes before the expiry of the time provided for Government Orders on the day allotted to the consideration at report stage and on the day allotted to the consideration at third reading stage of the said Bill, any proceedings before the House shall be interrupted, if required for the purpose of this Order, and in turn every question necessary for the disposal of the stage of the Bill then under consideration shall be put forthwith and successively, without further debate or amendment.

Pursuant to Standing Order 67.1, the House proceeded to the question period regarding the moving of the time allocation motion.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:

(Division No. 174 -- Vote No 174) YEAS: 141, NAYS: 99 YEAS -- POUR Adams Allard Anderson (Victoria) Assad Assadourian Augustine Bagnell Barnes Beaumier Bélair Bellemare Bennett Bertrand Bevilacqua Binet Blondin-Andrew Bonin Bonwick Boudria Bradshaw Bryden Bulte Byrne Caccia Calder Cannis Caplan Catterall Cauchon Chamberlain Charbonneau Chrétien Coderre Collenette Comuzzi Copps Cullen Cuzner DeVillers Dhaliwal Dion Dromisky Drouin Duhamel Duplain Easter Eggleton Eyking Farrah Finlay Fontana Fry Gagliano Godfrey Goodale Graham Gray (Windsor West) Guarnieri Harb Harvard Hubbard Ianno Jennings Jordan Karetak-Lindell Keyes Knutson Kraft Sloan Laliberte Lastewka Lavigne LeBlanc Lee Leung Lincoln Longfield MacAulay Macklin Mahoney Malhi Manley Marcil Marleau Martin (LaSalle--Émard) Matthews McCallum McCormick McGuire McLellan McTeague Mills (Toronto--Danforth) Minna Mitchell Murphy Myers Nault Normand O'Brien (Labrador) O'Brien (London--Fanshawe) O'Reilly Owen Paradis Parrish Patry Peric Peterson Phinney Pickard (Chatham--Kent Essex) Price Proulx Provenzano Redman Reed (Halton) Regan Richardson Robillard Rock Saada Savoy Scherrer Scott Serré Sgro Speller St-Jacques St. Denis Steckle Stewart Thibault (West Nova) Thibeault (Saint-Lambert) Tirabassi Tonks Torsney Ur Valeri Vanclief Volpe Wappel Whelan Wilfert Wood -- 141 NAYS -- CONTRE Abbott Anderson (Cypress Hills--Grasslands) Bachand (Richmond--Arthabaska) Bailey Bellehumeur Benoit Bergeron Bigras Blaikie Borotsik Breitkreuz Brien Brison Burton Cardin Casson Chatters Clark Comartin Crête Cummins Dalphond-Guiral Davies Day Doyle Dubé Duceppe Elley Epp Fournier Gagnon (Québec) Gagnon (Champlain) Gallant Gauthier Girard-Bujold Godin Goldring Gouk Guimond Hanger Harris Hearn Herron Hill (Macleod) Hill (Prince George--Peace River) Hilstrom Hinton Jaffer Johnston Kenney (Calgary Southeast) Laframboise Lalonde Lanctôt Lebel Lill Lunney (Nanaimo--Alberni) MacKay (Pictou--Antigonish--Guysborough) Marceau Mark Martin (Winnipeg Centre) Mayfield McDonough McNally Ménard Merrifield Mills (Red Deer) Nystrom Obhrai Paquette Penson Perron Plamondon Proctor Rajotte Reid (Lanark--Carleton) Reynolds Ritz Sauvageau Schmidt Skelton Solberg Sorenson Spencer St-Hilaire Stinson Stoffer Strahl Telegdi Thompson (New Brunswick Southwest) Thompson (Wild Rose) Toews Tremblay (Rimouski-Neigette-et-la Mitis) Vellacott Venne Wasylycia-Leis Wayne White (Langley--Abbotsford) Williams Yelich -- 99 PAIRED -- PAIRÉS Asselin Bachand (Saint-Jean) Castonguay Desrochers Folco Gallaway Harvey Kilgour (Edmonton Southeast) Loubier Pettigrew Picard (Drummond) Rocheleau

The House resumed consideration at report stage of Bill C-36, An Act to amend the Criminal Code, the Official Secrets Act, the Canada Evidence Act, the Proceeds of Crime (Money Laundering) Act and other Acts, and to enact measures respecting the registration of charities in order to combat terrorism, as reported by the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights with amendments;

And of the motion in Group No. 2 (Motion No. 6).

Group No. 2

Motion No. 6 of Mr. Reid (Lanark--Carleton), seconded by Mr. Penson (Peace River), -- That Bill C-36, in Clause 29, be amended by adding after line 18 on page 62 the following:

“In no case shall a person be bound to secrecy for a period exceeding fifteen years, unless otherwise indicated by the deputy head.”

Debate continued on the motion in Group No. 2.

Statements By Members

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

Oral Questions

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

Government Orders

Pursuant to Standing Order 45, the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the motion of Ms. Copps (Minister of Canadian Heritage), seconded by Mr. Collenette (Minister of Transport), -- That Bill C-10, An Act respecting the national marine conservation areas of Canada, be now read a third time and do pass.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:

(Division No. 175 -- Vote No 175) YEAS: 156, NAYS: 91 YEAS -- POUR Adams Alcock Allard Anderson (Victoria) Assad Assadourian Augustine Bachand (Richmond--Arthabaska) Bagnell Bakopanos Barnes Beaumier Bélair Bélanger Bellemare Bennett Bertrand Bevilacqua Binet Blondin-Andrew Bonin Bonwick Borotsik Boudria Bradshaw Brown Bryden Bulte Byrne Caccia Calder Cannis Caplan Carroll Casey Catterall Cauchon Chamberlain Charbonneau Clark Coderre Collenette Comuzzi Copps Cotler Cullen Cuzner DeVillers Dhaliwal Dion Discepola Doyle Dromisky Drouin Duplain Easter Eggleton Eyking Finlay Fontana Fry Gagliano Godfrey Graham Gray (Windsor West) Guarnieri Harb Harvard Herron Hill (Prince George--Peace River) Hubbard Ianno Jennings Jordan Karetak-Lindell Keyes Knutson Kraft Sloan Laliberte Lastewka Lavigne LeBlanc Lee Leung Lincoln Longfield MacAulay MacKay (Pictou--Antigonish--Guysborough) Macklin Mahoney Malhi Manley Marleau Matthews McCallum McCormick McGuire McKay (Scarborough East) McLellan McNally McTeague Mills (Toronto--Danforth) Minna Mitchell Murphy Myers Nault Normand O'Brien (Labrador) O'Brien (London--Fanshawe) O'Reilly Owen Pankiw Paradis Parrish Patry Peric Peterson Phinney Pickard (Chatham--Kent Essex) Price Proulx Provenzano Redman Reed (Halton) Regan Robillard Rock Saada Savoy Scherrer Scott Serré Sgro Speller St-Jacques St. Denis Steckle Stewart Strahl Telegdi Thibault (West Nova) Thibeault (Saint-Lambert) Thompson (New Brunswick Southwest) Tirabassi Tonks Torsney Ur Valeri Vanclief Volpe Wappel Wayne Whelan Wilfert Wood -- 156 NAYS -- CONTRE Abbott Ablonczy Anderson (Cypress Hills--Grasslands) Bailey Bellehumeur Benoit Bergeron Bigras Blaikie Bourgeois Breitkreuz Brien Burton Cardin Casson Chatters Comartin Crête Cummins Dalphond-Guiral Davies Day Dubé Duceppe Elley Epp Fitzpatrick Forseth Fournier Gagnon (Québec) Gagnon (Champlain) Gallant Gauthier Girard-Bujold Godin Goldring Guay Guimond Harris Hearn Hill (Macleod) Hilstrom Hinton Jaffer Johnston Kenney (Calgary Southeast) Laframboise Lalonde Lanctôt Lebel Lill Lunney (Nanaimo--Alberni) Marceau Martin (Esquimalt--Juan de Fuca) Martin (Winnipeg Centre) Mayfield McDonough Ménard Merrifield Mills (Red Deer) Nystrom Obhrai Pallister Paquette Penson Perron Plamondon Proctor Rajotte Reid (Lanark--Carleton) Reynolds Ritz Roy Sauvageau Schmidt Skelton Solberg Sorenson Spencer St-Hilaire Stinson Stoffer Thompson (Wild Rose) Toews Tremblay (Lac-Saint-Jean--Saguenay) Tremblay (Rimouski-Neigette-et-la Mitis) Venne Wasylycia-Leis White (Langley--Abbotsford) Williams Yelich -- 91 PAIRED -- PAIRÉS Asselin Bachand (Saint-Jean) Castonguay Desrochers Folco Gallaway Harvey Kilgour (Edmonton Southeast) Loubier Pettigrew Picard (Drummond) Rocheleau

Accordingly, the Bill was read the third time and passed.

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Pursuant to Standing Order 45, the House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Manley (Minister of Foreign Affairs), seconded by Ms. Copps (Minister of Canadian Heritage), -- That Bill C-35, An Act to amend the Foreign Missions and International Organizations Act, be now read a third time and do pass.

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the amendment of Mr. Pallister (Portage--Lisgar), seconded by Mr. Cadman (Surrey North), -- That the motion be amended by deleting all the words after the word “That” and substituting the following:

“Bill C-35, An Act to amend the Foreign Missions and International Organizations Act, be not now read a third time, but be referred back to the Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs and International Trade for further consideration of Clause 5, with due respect being given to recommendations 31.3.1 and 31.3.2 of the Interim Report of the Commission for Public Complaints Against the RCMP, which call for greater independence of the RCMP from political influence; for further consideration of Clause 3, with due respect being given to the view expressed by the Minister of Foreign Affairs that diplomatic immunity ought to apply only to acts committed in the course of diplomatic duties; and for further consideration of Clause 3, with due respect being given to the principle that any admission into Canada of foreign representatives who would normally be inadmissible under Section 19 of the Immigration Act due to having engaged in, or being likely to engage in acts of violence, subversion, terrorism, crimes against humanity, and offences under the Criminal Code ought to be reported to Parliament; and for further consideration of Clause 2, with due consideration being given to the need for increased national security measures in consequence of the events of September 11”.

The question was put on the amendment and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division No. 176 -- Vote No 176) YEAS: 61, NAYS: 186 YEAS -- POUR Abbott Ablonczy Anderson (Cypress Hills--Grasslands) Bachand (Richmond--Arthabaska) Bailey Benoit Borotsik Breitkreuz Burton Casey Casson Chatters Clark Cummins Day Doyle Elley Epp Fitzpatrick Forseth Gallant Goldring Harris Hearn Herron Hill (Macleod) Hill (Prince George--Peace River) Hilstrom Hinton Jaffer Johnston Kenney (Calgary Southeast) Lunney (Nanaimo--Alberni) MacKay (Pictou--Antigonish--Guysborough) Mark Martin (Esquimalt--Juan de Fuca) McNally Merrifield Mills (Red Deer) Obhrai Pallister Pankiw Penson Rajotte Reid (Lanark--Carleton) Reynolds Ritz Schmidt Skelton Solberg Sorenson Spencer Stinson Strahl Thompson (New Brunswick Southwest) Thompson (Wild Rose) Toews Wayne White (Langley--Abbotsford) Williams Yelich -- 61 NAYS -- CONTRE Adams Alcock Allard Anderson (Victoria) Assad Assadourian Augustine Bagnell Bakopanos Barnes Beaumier Bélair Bellehumeur Bellemare Bennett Bergeron Bertrand Bevilacqua Bigras Binet Blaikie Blondin-Andrew Bonin Bonwick Boudria Bourgeois Bradshaw Brien Brown Bryden Bulte Byrne Caccia Calder Cannis Caplan Cardin Carroll Catterall Cauchon Chamberlain Charbonneau Coderre Collenette Comartin Comuzzi Copps Cotler Crête Cullen Cuzner Dalphond-Guiral Davies DeVillers Dhaliwal Dion Discepola Dromisky Drouin Dubé Duceppe Duplain Easter Eggleton Eyking Finlay Fontana Fournier Fry Gagliano Gagnon (Champlain) Gagnon (Québec) Gauthier Girard-Bujold Godfrey Godin Graham Guarnieri Guay Guimond Harb Harvard Hubbard Ianno Jennings Jordan Karetak-Lindell Keyes Knutson Kraft Sloan Laframboise Laliberte Lalonde Lanctôt Lastewka Lavigne Lebel LeBlanc Lee Leung Lill Lincoln Longfield MacAulay Macklin Mahoney Malhi Manley Marceau Marleau Martin (Winnipeg Centre) Martin (LaSalle--Émard) Matthews McCallum McCormick McDonough McGuire McKay (Scarborough East) McLellan McTeague Ménard Mills (Toronto--Danforth) Minna Mitchell Murphy Myers Nault Normand Nystrom O'Brien (Labrador) O'Brien (London--Fanshawe) O'Reilly Owen Paquette Paradis Parrish Patry Peric Perron Peterson Phinney Pickard (Chatham--Kent Essex) Plamondon Price Proctor Proulx Provenzano Redman Reed (Halton) Regan Richardson Robillard Rock Roy Saada Sauvageau Savoy Scherrer Scott Serré Sgro Speller St-Hilaire St-Jacques St. Denis Steckle Stewart Stoffer Telegdi Thibault (West Nova) Thibeault (Saint-Lambert) Tirabassi Tonks Torsney Tremblay (Lac-Saint-Jean--Saguenay) Tremblay (Rimouski-Neigette-et-la Mitis) Ur Valeri Vanclief Venne Volpe Wappel Wasylycia-Leis Whelan Wilfert Wood -- 186 PAIRED -- PAIRÉS Asselin Bachand (Saint-Jean) Castonguay Desrochers Folco Gallaway Harvey Kilgour (Edmonton Southeast) Loubier Pettigrew Picard (Drummond) Rocheleau

Private Members' Business

Pursuant to Order made on Tuesday, November 20, 2001, the House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Bergeron (Verchères--Les-Patriotes), seconded by Mr. Sauvageau (Repentigny), -- That a humble Address be presented to Her Excellency praying that she will intercede with Her Majesty to cause the British Crown to present an official apology to the Acadian people for the wrongs done to them in its name between 1755 and 1763. (Private Members' Business M-241)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the amendment of Ms. Dalphond-Guiral (Laval Centre), seconded by Mr. Godin (Acadie--Bathurst), -- That the motion be amended by replacing the words “to present an official apology to the Acadian people for the wrongs done to them” and substituting the following:

“to recognize officially the wrongs done to the Acadian people”.

The question was put on the amendment and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division No. 177 -- Vote No 177) YEAS: 103, NAYS: 136 YEAS -- POUR Abbott Ablonczy Bachand (Richmond--Arthabaska) Bailey Bélair Bellehumeur Benoit Bergeron Bigras Blaikie Borotsik Bourgeois Breitkreuz Brien Burton Cardin Casey Casson Charbonneau Clark Comartin Crête Cummins Dalphond-Guiral Davies Day Doyle Dubé Duceppe Epp Fitzpatrick Forseth Fournier Gagnon (Champlain) Gagnon (Québec) Gallant Gauthier Girard-Bujold Godin Goldring Guay Guimond Harris Hearn Herron Hill (Macleod) Hill (Prince George--Peace River) Hilstrom Hinton Jaffer Kenney (Calgary Southeast) Laframboise Laliberte Lalonde Lanctôt Lebel Lill Lunney (Nanaimo--Alberni) MacKay (Pictou--Antigonish--Guysborough) Marceau Mark Martin (Esquimalt--Juan de Fuca) Martin (Winnipeg Centre) McDonough McNally McTeague Ménard Merrifield Nystrom Obhrai Pallister Paquette Peric Perron Plamondon Proctor Rajotte Reed (Halton) Reid (Lanark--Carleton) Reynolds Richardson Ritz Roy Sauvageau Schmidt Skelton Sorenson Spencer St-Hilaire Steckle Stinson Stoffer Strahl Telegdi Thompson (Wild Rose) Toews Tremblay (Lac-Saint-Jean--Saguenay) Tremblay (Rimouski-Neigette-et-la Mitis) Venne Wasylycia-Leis Wayne Williams Yelich -- 103 NAYS -- CONTRE Adams Alcock Allard Anderson (Cypress Hills--Grasslands) Anderson (Victoria) Assad Assadourian Augustine Bagnell Bakopanos Barnes Beaumier Bélanger Bellemare Bennett Bertrand Bevilacqua Binet Blondin-Andrew Bonin Bonwick Boudria Bradshaw Brown Bryden Bulte Byrne Caccia Calder Cannis Carroll Catterall Cauchon Chamberlain Chatters Coderre Collenette Comuzzi Copps Cullen Cuzner DeVillers Dhaliwal Dion Discepola Dromisky Drouin Duplain Eggleton Elley Eyking Finlay Fontana Fry Gagliano Godfrey Graham Guarnieri Harb Harvard Hubbard Ianno Jennings Johnston Jordan Karetak-Lindell Keyes Knutson Kraft Sloan Lastewka Lavigne LeBlanc Lee Leung Lincoln Longfield MacAulay Macklin Mahoney Malhi Manley Marleau Martin (LaSalle--Émard) Matthews Mayfield McCallum McCormick McGuire McLellan Mills (Red Deer) Mills (Toronto--Danforth) Minna Mitchell Murphy Myers Nault Normand O'Brien (London--Fanshawe) O'Reilly Owen Paradis Parrish Patry Peterson Phinney Pickard (Chatham--Kent Essex) Price Proulx Provenzano Redman Regan Robillard Rock Saada Savoy Scherrer Scott Serré Sgro Speller St-Jacques St. Denis Stewart Thibault (West Nova) Thibeault (Saint-Lambert) Thompson (New Brunswick Southwest) Tirabassi Tonks Torsney Ur Valeri Vanclief Volpe Wappel Wilfert Wood -- 136 PAIRED -- PAIRÉS Asselin Bachand (Saint-Jean) Castonguay Desrochers Folco Gallaway Harvey Kilgour (Edmonton Southeast) Loubier Pettigrew Picard (Drummond) Rocheleau

Pursuant to Standing Order 93, the question was put on the main motion and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division No. 178 -- Vote No 178) YEAS: 59, NAYS: 182 YEAS -- POUR Bachand (Richmond--Arthabaska) Bellehumeur Bergeron Bigras Blaikie Borotsik Bourgeois Brien Cardin Clark Comartin Crête Cummins Dalphond-Guiral Davies Doyle Dubé Duceppe Fournier Gagnon (Québec) Gagnon (Champlain) Gauthier Girard-Bujold Godin Guay Guimond Hearn Herron Jaffer Laframboise Lalonde Lanctôt Lebel Lill MacKay (Pictou--Antigonish--Guysborough) Marceau Mark Martin (Winnipeg Centre) McDonough McTeague Ménard Nystrom Paquette Peric Perron Plamondon Proctor Reed (Halton) Richardson Roy Sauvageau St-Hilaire Steckle Stoffer Telegdi Tremblay (Lac-Saint-Jean--Saguenay) Tremblay (Rimouski-Neigette-et-la Mitis) Venne Wasylycia-Leis -- 59 NAYS -- CONTRE Abbott Ablonczy Adams Alcock Allard Anderson (Cypress Hills--Grasslands) Anderson (Victoria) Assad Assadourian Augustine Bagnell Bailey Bakopanos Barnes Beaumier Bélair Bélanger Bennett Benoit Bertrand Bevilacqua Binet Blondin-Andrew Bonin Bonwick Boudria Bradshaw Breitkreuz Brown Bryden Bulte Burton Byrne Caccia Calder Cannis Carroll Casey Casson Catterall Cauchon Chamberlain Charbonneau Chatters Coderre Collenette Comuzzi Copps Cullen Cuzner Day DeVillers Dhaliwal Dion Discepola Dromisky Drouin Duplain Eggleton Elley Epp Eyking Finlay Fitzpatrick Fontana Forseth Fry Gagliano Gallant Godfrey Goldring Graham Guarnieri Harb Harris Harvard Hill (Macleod) Hill (Prince George--Peace River) Hilstrom Hinton Hubbard Ianno Jennings Johnston Jordan Karetak-Lindell Kenney (Calgary Southeast) Keyes Knutson Kraft Sloan Laliberte Lastewka Lavigne LeBlanc Lee Leung Lincoln Longfield Lunney (Nanaimo--Alberni) MacAulay Macklin Mahoney Malhi Manley Marleau Martin (Esquimalt--Juan de Fuca) Martin (LaSalle--Émard) Matthews Mayfield McCallum McCormick McGuire McLellan McNally Merrifield Mills (Red Deer) Mills (Toronto--Danforth) Minna Mitchell Murphy Myers Nault Normand O'Brien (Labrador) O'Brien (London--Fanshawe) O'Reilly Obhrai Owen Pallister Paradis Parrish Patry Penson Peterson Phinney Pickard (Chatham--Kent Essex) Price Proulx Provenzano Rajotte Redman Regan Reid (Lanark--Carleton) Reynolds Ritz Robillard Rock Saada Savoy Scherrer Schmidt Scott Serré Sgro Skelton Sorenson Speller Spencer St-Jacques St. Denis Stewart Stinson Strahl Thibault (West Nova) Thibeault (Saint-Lambert) Thompson (New Brunswick Southwest) Thompson (Wild Rose) Tirabassi Toews Tonks Torsney Ur Valeri Vanclief Volpe Wappel Wayne White (Langley--Abbotsford) Wilfert Williams Wood Yelich -- 182 PAIRED -- PAIRÉS Asselin Bachand (Saint-Jean) Castonguay Desrochers Folco Gallaway Harvey Kilgour (Edmonton Southeast) Loubier Pettigrew Picard (Drummond) Rocheleau

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Pursuant to Order made on Tuesday, November 20, 2001, the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the motion of Mr. Pankiw (Saskatoon--Humboldt), seconded by Mr. Grewal (Surrey Central), -- That, in the opinion of this House, the government should immediately amend the Criminal Code to create a separate category of offences and punishments for computer hackers and persons who wilfully or maliciously export computer viruses, both of whose activities disrupt the normal conduct of electronic business in Canada. (Private Members' Business M-80)

The question was put on the motion and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division No. 179 -- Vote No 179) YEAS: 58, NAYS: 178 YEAS -- POUR Abbott Ablonczy Anderson (Cypress Hills--Grasslands) Bailey Benoit Borotsik Breitkreuz Burton Casey Casson Chatters Clark Cummins Day Doyle Elley Epp Fitzpatrick Forseth Gallant Goldring Harris Hearn Herron Hill (Macleod) Hill (Prince George--Peace River) Hinton Jaffer Johnston Kenney (Calgary Southeast) Lunney (Nanaimo--Alberni) MacKay (Pictou--Antigonish--Guysborough) Mark Martin (Esquimalt--Juan de Fuca) Mayfield McNally Merrifield Mills (Red Deer) Obhrai Pallister Pankiw Penson Peric Rajotte Reynolds Ritz Schmidt Skelton Sorenson Spencer Stinson Strahl Thompson (New Brunswick Southwest) Thompson (Wild Rose) Toews Wayne Williams Yelich -- 58 NAYS -- CONTRE Adams Alcock Allard Anderson (Victoria) Assad Assadourian Augustine Bagnell Bakopanos Barnes Beaumier Bélair Bélanger Bellehumeur Bellemare Bennett Bergeron Bertrand Bevilacqua Bigras Binet Blaikie Blondin-Andrew Bonin Bonwick Boudria Bourgeois Bradshaw Brien Brown Bryden Bulte Byrne Caccia Calder Cannis Cardin Carroll Catterall Cauchon Chamberlain Charbonneau Coderre Comartin Comuzzi Copps Cotler Crête Cullen Cuzner Dalphond-Guiral Davies DeVillers Dhaliwal Dion Discepola Dromisky Drouin Dubé Duceppe Duplain Eggleton Eyking Finlay Fontana Fournier Fry Gagliano Gagnon (Québec) Gagnon (Champlain) Gauthier Girard-Bujold Godfrey Godin Graham Guarnieri Guay Guimond Harb Harvard Hilstrom Hubbard Ianno Jennings Jordan Karetak-Lindell Keyes Knutson Kraft Sloan Laframboise Laliberte Lalonde Lanctôt Lastewka Lavigne LeBlanc Lee Leung Lill Lincoln Longfield MacAulay Macklin Mahoney Malhi Manley Marceau Marleau Martin (Winnipeg Centre) Matthews McCallum McCormick McDonough McGuire McLellan McTeague Ménard Mills (Toronto--Danforth) Minna Mitchell Murphy Myers Nault Normand Nystrom O'Brien (Labrador) O'Brien (London--Fanshawe) O'Reilly Owen Paquette Paradis Parrish Patry Perron Peterson Phinney Pickard (Chatham--Kent Essex) Plamondon Price Proctor Proulx Provenzano Redman Reed (Halton) Regan Reid (Lanark--Carleton) Richardson Robillard Roy Saada Sauvageau Savoy Scherrer Scott Sgro Speller St-Hilaire St-Jacques St. Denis Steckle Stewart Stoffer Telegdi Thibault (West Nova) Thibeault (Saint-Lambert) Tirabassi Tonks Torsney Tremblay (Lac-Saint-Jean--Saguenay) Ur Valeri Vanclief Venne Volpe Wappel Whelan Wilfert Wood -- 178 PAIRED -- PAIRÉS Asselin Bachand (Saint-Jean) Castonguay Desrochers Folco Gallaway Harvey Kilgour (Edmonton Southeast) Loubier Pettigrew Picard (Drummond) Rocheleau

Government Orders

The House resumed consideration at report stage of Bill C-36, An Act to amend the Criminal Code, the Official Secrets Act, the Canada Evidence Act, the Proceeds of Crime (Money Laundering) Act and other Acts, and to enact measures respecting the registration of charities in order to combat terrorism, as reported by the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights with amendments;

And of the motion in Group No. 2 (Motion No. 6).

Debate continued on the motion in Group No. 2

At 6:34 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 78(3), the Deputy Speaker interrupted the proceedings.

The question was put on Motion No. 6 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred.

Group No. 3

Mr. Lee (Scarborough--Rouge River), seconded by Mr. Jordan (Leeds--Grenville), moved Motion No. 7, -- That Bill C-36, in Clause 43, be amended by replacing lines 8 to 10 on page 82 with the following:

““proceeding” means a proceeding before a court, person or body with jurisdiction to compel the production of information.”

Mr. MacKay (Pictou--Antigonish--Guysborough), seconded by Mr. Clark (Calgary Centre), moved Motion No. 8, -- That Bill C-36 be amended by deleting Clause 87.

Mr. MacKay (Pictou--Antigonish--Guysborough), seconded by Mr. Clark (Calgary Centre), moved Motion No. 9, -- That Bill C-36 be amended by deleting Clause 104.

The question was put on Motion No. 7 and it was agreed to on division.

The question was put on Motions Nos. 8 and 9 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded divisions were deferred.

Group No. 4

Mr. Clark (Calgary Centre), seconded by Mr. MacKay (Pictou--Antigonish--Guysborough), moved Motion No. 10, -- That Bill C-36, in Clause 145, be amended by replacing lines 1 to 19 on page 183 with the following:

“145. Three years after this Act receives royal assent, the provisions of this Act shall expire, except the following:

(a) the provisions that fulfill Canada's commitment under the conventions listed in the definition "United Nations operation" in subsection 2(2) and the definition "terrorist activity" in subsection 83.01(1) of the Criminal Code, as enacted by section 4;

(b) sections 11, 12, 13 and 102.”

Mr. Reid (Lanark--Carleton), seconded by Mr. Penson (Peace River), moved Motion No. 13, -- That Bill C-36 be amended by adding after line 28 on page 183 the following new clause:

“147. Sections 6, 6.1, 7, 8 and 81 of this Act, and section 38.13 of the Canada Evidence Act as enacted by this Act cease to apply at the end of the fifteenth sitting day of Parliament after December 31, 2006, notwithstanding section 146.”

The question was put on Motions Nos. 10 and 13 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded divisions were deferred.

Pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded divisions.

Group No. 1

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 1 of Mr. Reid (Lanark--Carleton), seconded by Mr. Penson (Peace River), -- That Bill C-36, in Clause 4, be amended by replacing line 46 on page 13 and lines 1 to 4 on page 14 with the following:

“(i) that is committed, in whole or in part with the”

The question was put on Motion No. 1 and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division No. 180 -- Vote No 180) YEAS: 101, NAYS: 138 YEAS -- POUR Abbott Anderson (Cypress Hills--Grasslands) Bailey Bellehumeur Benoit Bergeron Bigras Blaikie Borotsik Bourgeois Breitkreuz Brien Cardin Casey Casson Chatters Clark Comartin Crête Cummins Dalphond-Guiral Davies Day Doyle Dubé Duceppe Elley Epp Fitzpatrick Forseth Fournier Gagnon (Québec) Gagnon (Champlain) Gallant Gauthier Girard-Bujold Godin Gouk Guay Guimond Hanger Harris Hearn Herron Hill (Macleod) Hill (Prince George--Peace River) Hilstrom Hinton Jaffer Johnston Laframboise Lalonde Lanctôt Lebel Lill Lunn (Saanich--Gulf Islands) Lunney (Nanaimo--Alberni) MacKay (Pictou--Antigonish--Guysborough) Manning Marceau Martin (Winnipeg Centre) Mayfield McDonough McNally Ménard Merrifield Mills (Red Deer) Nystrom Obhrai Pallister Pankiw Paquette Penson Perron Proctor Rajotte Reid (Lanark--Carleton) Reynolds Ritz Roy Sauvageau Schmidt Skelton Sorenson Spencer St-Hilaire Stinson Stoffer Strahl Thompson (New Brunswick Southwest) Thompson (Wild Rose) Toews Tremblay (Lac-Saint-Jean--Saguenay) Tremblay (Rimouski-Neigette-et-la Mitis) Vellacott Venne Wasylycia-Leis Wayne White (Langley--Abbotsford) Williams Yelich -- 101 NAYS -- CONTRE Adams Alcock Anderson (Victoria) Assadourian Augustine Bagnell Bakopanos Barnes Beaumier Bélanger Bellemare Bennett Bertrand Binet Blondin-Andrew Bonin Bonwick Boudria Bradshaw Brown Bryden Bulte Byrne Caccia Calder Cannis Carroll Catterall Cauchon Chamberlain Charbonneau Coderre Collenette Comuzzi Copps Cotler Cullen Cuzner DeVillers Dhaliwal Dion Discepola Dromisky Drouin Duplain Eggleton Eyking Farrah Finlay Fontana Fry Gagliano Godfrey Graham Gray (Windsor West) Guarnieri Harb Harvard Hubbard Ianno Jennings Jordan Karetak-Lindell Keyes Knutson Kraft Sloan Lastewka Lavigne LeBlanc Lee Leung Lincoln Longfield MacAulay Macklin Mahoney Malhi Manley Martin (LaSalle--Émard) Matthews McCallum McCormick McGuire McKay (Scarborough East) McLellan McTeague Mills (Toronto--Danforth) Minna Mitchell Murphy Myers Nault Normand O'Brien (Labrador) O'Brien (London--Fanshawe) O'Reilly Owen Paradis Parrish Patry Peric Peterson Phinney Pickard (Chatham--Kent Essex) Price Proulx Provenzano Redman Reed (Halton) Regan Richardson Robillard Rock Saada Savoy Scherrer Scott Serré Sgro Speller St-Jacques St. Denis Steckle Stewart Telegdi Thibault (West Nova) Thibeault (Saint-Lambert) Tirabassi Tonks Torsney Ur Valeri Vanclief Volpe Wappel Whelan Wilfert Wood -- 138 PAIRED -- PAIRÉS Asselin Bachand (Saint-Jean) Castonguay Desrochers Folco Gallaway Harvey Kilgour (Edmonton Southeast) Loubier Pettigrew Picard (Drummond) Rocheleau

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 2 of Mr. Clark (Calgary Centre), seconded by Mr. MacKay (Pictou--Antigonish--Guysborough), -- That Bill C-36, in Clause 4, be amended by adding after line 19 on page 17 the following:

“(1.2) The Governor in Council may, by regulation, establish the criteria to be used by the Solicitor General in making the recommendation to place an entity on the list referred to in subsection (1).

(1.3) Before making the regulations referred to in subsection (1.2), the list of criteria, or any amendment thereto, must be tabled in the House of Commons and be debated within 10 sitting days after being tabled.”

The question was put on Motion No. 2 and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division No. 181 -- Vote No 181) YEAS: 101, NAYS: 139 YEAS -- POUR Abbott Anderson (Cypress Hills--Grasslands) Bailey Bellehumeur Benoit Bergeron Bigras Blaikie Borotsik Bourgeois Breitkreuz Brien Cardin Casey Casson Chatters Clark Comartin Crête Cummins Dalphond-Guiral Davies Day Doyle Dubé Duceppe Elley Epp Forseth Fournier Gagnon (Québec) Gagnon (Champlain) Gallant Gauthier Girard-Bujold Godin Gouk Guay Guimond Hanger Harris Hearn Herron Hill (Macleod) Hill (Prince George--Peace River) Hilstrom Hinton Jaffer Johnston Kenney (Calgary Southeast) Laframboise Lalonde Lanctôt Lebel Lill Lunn (Saanich--Gulf Islands) Lunney (Nanaimo--Alberni) MacKay (Pictou--Antigonish--Guysborough) Manning Marceau Martin (Winnipeg Centre) Mayfield McDonough McNally Ménard Merrifield Mills (Red Deer) Nystrom Obhrai Pallister Pankiw Paquette Penson Perron Proctor Rajotte Reid (Lanark--Carleton) Reynolds Ritz Roy Sauvageau Schmidt Skelton Sorenson Spencer St-Hilaire Stinson Stoffer Strahl Thompson (New Brunswick Southwest) Thompson (Wild Rose) Toews Tremblay (Lac-Saint-Jean--Saguenay) Tremblay (Rimouski-Neigette-et-la Mitis) Vellacott Venne Wasylycia-Leis Wayne White (Langley--Abbotsford) Williams Yelich -- 101 NAYS -- CONTRE Adams Alcock Anderson (Victoria) Assad Assadourian Augustine Bagnell Bakopanos Barnes Beaumier Bélanger Bellemare Bennett Bertrand Binet Blondin-Andrew Bonin Bonwick Boudria Bradshaw Brown Bryden Bulte Byrne Caccia Calder Cannis Carroll Catterall Cauchon Chamberlain Charbonneau Coderre Collenette Comuzzi Copps Cullen Cuzner DeVillers Dhaliwal Dion Discepola Dromisky Drouin Duplain Eggleton Eyking Farrah Finlay Fitzpatrick Fontana Fry Gagliano Godfrey Graham Gray (Windsor West) Guarnieri Harb Harvard Hubbard Ianno Jennings Jordan Karetak-Lindell Keyes Knutson Kraft Sloan Lastewka Lavigne LeBlanc Lee Leung Lincoln Longfield MacAulay Macklin Mahoney Malhi Manley Martin (LaSalle--Émard) Matthews McCallum McCormick McGuire McKay (Scarborough East) McLellan McTeague Mills (Toronto--Danforth) Minna Mitchell Murphy Myers Nault Normand O'Brien (Labrador) O'Brien (London--Fanshawe) O'Reilly Owen Paradis Parrish Patry Peric Peterson Phinney Pickard (Chatham--Kent Essex) Price Proulx Provenzano Redman Reed (Halton) Regan Richardson Robillard Rock Saada Savoy Scherrer Scott Serré Sgro Speller St-Jacques St. Denis Steckle Stewart Telegdi Thibault (West Nova) Thibeault (Saint-Lambert) Tirabassi Tonks Torsney Ur Valeri Vanclief Volpe Wappel Whelan Wilfert Wood -- 139 PAIRED -- PAIRÉS Asselin Bachand (Saint-Jean) Castonguay Desrochers Folco Gallaway Harvey Kilgour (Edmonton Southeast) Loubier Pettigrew Picard (Drummond) Rocheleau

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 3 of Mr. Clark (Calgary Centre), seconded by Mr. MacKay (Pictou--Antigonish--Guysborough), -- That Bill C-36, in Clause 4, be amended by replacing line 30 on page 17 with the following:

“the applicant no longer be a listed entity.”

The question was put on Motion No. 3 and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division No. 182 -- Vote No 182) YEAS: 55, NAYS: 178 YEAS -- POUR Bellehumeur Bergeron Bigras Blaikie Borotsik Bourgeois Brien Cardin Casey Clark Comartin Crête Dalphond-Guiral Davies Doyle Dubé Duceppe Fournier Gagnon (Québec) Gagnon (Champlain) Gauthier Girard-Bujold Godin Guay Guimond Hearn Herron Hill (Prince George--Peace River) Laframboise Lalonde Lanctôt Lebel Lill MacKay (Pictou--Antigonish--Guysborough) Marceau Martin (Winnipeg Centre) McDonough McNally Ménard Nystrom Pankiw Paquette Perron Proctor Roy Sauvageau St-Hilaire Stoffer Strahl Thompson (New Brunswick Southwest) Tremblay (Lac-Saint-Jean--Saguenay) Tremblay (Rimouski-Neigette-et-la Mitis) Venne Wasylycia-Leis Wayne -- 55 NAYS -- CONTRE Abbott Adams Alcock Anderson (Cypress Hills--Grasslands) Anderson (Victoria) Assad Assadourian Augustine Bagnell Bailey Bakopanos Barnes Beaumier Bélanger Bellemare Bennett Benoit Bertrand Binet Blondin-Andrew Bonin Bonwick Boudria Bradshaw Breitkreuz Brown Bryden Bulte Byrne Caccia Calder Cannis Carroll Casson Catterall Cauchon Chamberlain Charbonneau Chatters Coderre Collenette Comuzzi Copps Cullen Cummins Cuzner Day DeVillers Dhaliwal Dion Discepola Dromisky Drouin Duplain Eggleton Elley Epp Eyking Farrah Finlay Fitzpatrick Fontana Forseth Fry Gagliano Gallant Godfrey Gouk Graham Gray (Windsor West) Guarnieri Hanger Harb Harris Harvard Hilstrom Hinton Hubbard Ianno Jaffer Jennings Johnston Jordan Karetak-Lindell Kenney (Calgary Southeast) Keyes Knutson Kraft Sloan Lastewka Lavigne LeBlanc Lee Leung Lincoln Longfield Lunn (Saanich--Gulf Islands) Lunney (Nanaimo--Alberni) MacAulay Macklin Mahoney Malhi Manley Manning Martin (LaSalle--Émard) Matthews Mayfield McCallum McCormick McGuire McKay (Scarborough East) McLellan McTeague Merrifield Mills (Red Deer) Mills (Toronto--Danforth) Minna Mitchell Murphy Myers Nault Normand O'Brien (Labrador) O'Brien (London--Fanshawe) O'Reilly Obhrai Owen Pallister Paradis Parrish Patry Penson Peric Peterson Phinney Price Proulx Provenzano Rajotte Redman Reed (Halton) Regan Reid (Lanark--Carleton) Reynolds Richardson Ritz Robillard Rock Saada Savoy Scherrer Schmidt Scott Serré Sgro Skelton Sorenson Spencer St-Jacques St. Denis Steckle Stewart Stinson Telegdi Thibault (West Nova) Thibeault (Saint-Lambert) Thompson (Wild Rose) Tirabassi Toews Tonks Torsney Ur Valeri Vanclief Vellacott Whelan White (Langley--Abbotsford) Wilfert Yelich -- 178 PAIRED -- PAIRÉS Asselin Bachand (Saint-Jean) Castonguay Desrochers Folco Gallaway Harvey Kilgour (Edmonton Southeast) Loubier Pettigrew Picard (Drummond) Rocheleau

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 4 of Mr. Clark (Calgary Centre), seconded by Mr. MacKay (Pictou--Antigonish--Guysborough), -- That Bill C-36, in Clause 4, be amended by adding after line 3 on page 35 the following:

“(11.1) In any proceeding under this section, the presiding judge may appoint counsel to represent any person subject to the investigative hearing.”

The question was put on Motion No. 4 and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division No. 183 -- Vote No 183) YEAS: 55, NAYS: 183 YEAS -- POUR Bellehumeur Bergeron Bigras Blaikie Borotsik Bourgeois Brien Cardin Casey Clark Comartin Crête Dalphond-Guiral Davies Doyle Dubé Duceppe Fournier Gagnon (Québec) Gagnon (Champlain) Gauthier Girard-Bujold Godin Guay Guimond Hearn Herron Hill (Prince George--Peace River) Laframboise Lalonde Lanctôt Lebel Lill MacKay (Pictou--Antigonish--Guysborough) Marceau Martin (Winnipeg Centre) McDonough McNally Ménard Nystrom Pankiw Paquette Perron Proctor Roy Sauvageau St-Hilaire Stoffer Strahl Thompson (New Brunswick Southwest) Tremblay (Lac-Saint-Jean--Saguenay) Tremblay (Rimouski-Neigette-et-la Mitis) Venne Wasylycia-Leis Wayne -- 55 NAYS -- CONTRE Abbott Adams Alcock Anderson (Cypress Hills--Grasslands) Anderson (Victoria) Assad Assadourian Augustine Bagnell Bailey Bakopanos Barnes Beaumier Bélanger Bellemare Bennett Benoit Bertrand Binet Blondin-Andrew Bonin Bonwick Boudria Bradshaw Breitkreuz Brown Bryden Bulte Byrne Caccia Calder Cannis Carroll Casson Catterall Cauchon Chamberlain Charbonneau Chatters Coderre Collenette Comuzzi Copps Cotler Cullen Cummins Cuzner Day DeVillers Dhaliwal Dion Discepola Dromisky Drouin Duplain Eggleton Elley Epp Eyking Farrah Finlay Fitzpatrick Fontana Forseth Fry Gagliano Gallant Godfrey Gouk Graham Gray (Windsor West) Guarnieri Hanger Harb Harris Harvard Hilstrom Hinton Hubbard Ianno Jaffer Jennings Johnston Jordan Karetak-Lindell Kenney (Calgary Southeast) Keyes Knutson Kraft Sloan Lastewka Lavigne LeBlanc Lee Leung Lincoln Longfield Lunn (Saanich--Gulf Islands) Lunney (Nanaimo--Alberni) MacAulay Macklin Mahoney Malhi Manley Manning Matthews Mayfield McCallum McCormick McGuire McKay (Scarborough East) McLellan McTeague Merrifield Mills (Red Deer) Mills (Toronto--Danforth) Minna Mitchell Murphy Myers Nault Normand O'Brien (Labrador) O'Brien (London--Fanshawe) O'Reilly Obhrai Owen Pallister Paradis Parrish Patry Penson Peric Peterson Phinney Pickard (Chatham--Kent Essex) Price Proulx Provenzano Rajotte Redman Reed (Halton) Regan Reid (Lanark--Carleton) Reynolds Richardson Ritz Robillard Rock Saada Savoy Scherrer Schmidt Scott Serré Sgro Skelton Sorenson Speller Spencer St-Jacques St. Denis Steckle Stewart Stinson Telegdi Thibault (West Nova) Thibeault (Saint-Lambert) Thompson (Wild Rose) Tirabassi Toews Tonks Torsney Ur Valeri Vanclief Vellacott Volpe Wappel Whelan White (Langley--Abbotsford) Wilfert Wood Yelich -- 183 PAIRED -- PAIRÉS Asselin Bachand (Saint-Jean) Castonguay Desrochers Folco Gallaway Harvey Kilgour (Edmonton Southeast) Loubier Pettigrew Picard (Drummond) Rocheleau

Group No. 2

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 6 of Mr. Reid (Lanark--Carleton), seconded by Mr. Penson (Peace River), -- That Bill C-36, in Clause 29, be amended by adding after line 18 on page 62 the following:

“In no case shall a person be bound to secrecy for a period exceeding fifteen years, unless otherwise indicated by the deputy head.”

The question was put on Motion No. 6 and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division No. 184 -- Vote No 184) YEAS: 73, NAYS: 134 YEAS -- POUR Abbott Anderson (Cypress Hills--Grasslands) Bailey Bellehumeur Benoit Blaikie Borotsik Breitkreuz Casey Casson Chatters Clark Comartin Cummins Davies Day Doyle Duceppe Elley Epp Fitzpatrick Forseth Gallant Godin Gouk Hanger Harris Hearn Herron Hill (Prince George--Peace River) Hilstrom Hinton Jaffer Johnston Kenney (Calgary Southeast) Lalonde Lill Lunn (Saanich--Gulf Islands) Lunney (Nanaimo--Alberni) MacKay (Pictou--Antigonish--Guysborough) Manning Martin (Winnipeg Centre) Mayfield McDonough McNally Merrifield Mills (Red Deer) Nystrom Obhrai Pallister Pankiw Penson Proctor Rajotte Reid (Lanark--Carleton) Reynolds Ritz Schmidt Skelton Sorenson Spencer Stinson Stoffer Strahl Thompson (New Brunswick Southwest) Thompson (Wild Rose) Toews Tremblay (Rimouski-Neigette-et-la Mitis) Vellacott Wasylycia-Leis Wayne White (Langley--Abbotsford) Yelich -- 73 NAYS -- CONTRE Adams Alcock Anderson (Victoria) Assad Assadourian Augustine Bagnell Bakopanos Barnes Beaumier Bélanger Bellemare Bennett Bertrand Binet Blondin-Andrew Bonin Bonwick Boudria Brown Bryden Bulte Byrne Caccia Calder Cannis Carroll Catterall Cauchon Chamberlain Charbonneau Coderre Collenette Comuzzi Copps Cullen Cuzner DeVillers Dion Discepola Dromisky Drouin Duplain Eggleton Eyking Farrah Finlay Fontana Fry Gagliano Godfrey Graham Guarnieri Harb Harvard Hubbard Ianno Jennings Jordan Karetak-Lindell Keyes Knutson Kraft Sloan Lastewka Lavigne LeBlanc Lee Leung Lincoln Longfield MacAulay Macklin Mahoney Malhi Manley Matthews McCallum McCormick McGuire McKay (Scarborough East) McLellan McTeague Mills (Toronto--Danforth) Minna Mitchell Murphy Myers Nault Normand O'Brien (Labrador) O'Brien (London--Fanshawe) O'Reilly Owen Paradis Parrish Patry Peric Peterson Phinney Pickard (Chatham--Kent Essex) Price Proulx Provenzano Redman Reed (Halton) Regan Richardson Robillard Rock Saada Savoy Scherrer Scott Serré Sgro Speller St-Jacques St. Denis Steckle Stewart Telegdi Thibault (West Nova) Thibeault (Saint-Lambert) Tirabassi Tonks Torsney Ur Valeri Vanclief Volpe Wappel Whelan Wilfert Wood -- 134 PAIRED -- PAIRÉS Asselin Bachand (Saint-Jean) Castonguay Desrochers Folco Gallaway Harvey Kilgour (Edmonton Southeast) Loubier Pettigrew Picard (Drummond) Rocheleau

Group No. 3

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 8 of Mr. MacKay (Pictou--Antigonish--Guysborough), seconded by Mr. Clark (Calgary Centre), -- That Bill C-36 be amended by deleting Clause 87.

The question was put on Motion No. 8 and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division No. 185 -- Vote No 185) YEAS: 31, NAYS: 137 YEAS -- POUR Bigras Blaikie Borotsik Casey Clark Comartin Crête Davies Doyle Duceppe Godin Guay Hearn Herron Hill (Prince George--Peace River) Lalonde Lill MacKay (Pictou--Antigonish--Guysborough) Marceau Martin (Winnipeg Centre) McDonough McNally Ménard Nystrom Proctor Sauvageau Stoffer Strahl Thompson (New Brunswick Southwest) Wasylycia-Leis Wayne -- 31 NAYS -- CONTRE Abbott Adams Alcock Anderson (Victoria) Assad Assadourian Augustine Bailey Barnes Beaumier Bélanger Bellemare Bennett Benoit Bertrand Blondin-Andrew Boudria Breitkreuz Brown Bryden Bulte Byrne Caccia Calder Cannis Catterall Cauchon Chamberlain Chatters Collenette Comuzzi Copps Cullen Cummins DeVillers Dion Discepola Dromisky Drouin Eggleton Epp Finlay Fitzpatrick Fontana Fry Gagliano Gallant Godfrey Gouk Graham Guarnieri Hanger Harb Harris Harvard Hilstrom Hinton Hubbard Ianno Jaffer Jennings Johnston Jordan Kenney (Calgary Southeast) Keyes Knutson Kraft Sloan Lastewka Lavigne Lee Leung Lincoln Lunney (Nanaimo--Alberni) MacAulay Malhi Manning Matthews Mayfield McCallum McCormick McGuire McLellan McTeague Merrifield Mills (Red Deer) Mills (Toronto--Danforth) Minna Mitchell Myers Nault Normand O'Brien (Labrador) O'Brien (London--Fanshawe) O'Reilly Obhrai Owen Pallister Paradis Parrish Patry Peric Peterson Phinney Pickard (Chatham--Kent Essex) Provenzano Rajotte Redman Reed (Halton) Regan Reid (Lanark--Carleton) Richardson Ritz Robillard Rock Schmidt Scott Serré Skelton Sorenson Speller Spencer St. Denis Steckle Stewart Telegdi Thibault (West Nova) Toews Torsney Ur Valeri Vanclief Vellacott Volpe Wappel Whelan Wood Yelich -- 137 PAIRED -- PAIRÉS Asselin Bachand (Saint-Jean) Castonguay Desrochers Folco Gallaway Harvey Kilgour (Edmonton Southeast) Loubier Pettigrew Picard (Drummond) Rocheleau

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 9 of Mr. MacKay (Pictou--Antigonish--Guysborough), seconded by Mr. Clark (Calgary Centre), -- That Bill C-36 be amended by deleting Clause 104.

The question was put on Motion No. 9 and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division No. 186 -- Vote No 186) YEAS: 30, NAYS: 96 YEAS -- POUR Blaikie Borotsik Bourgeois Cardin Casey Clark Comartin Davies Doyle Duceppe Girard-Bujold Godin Hearn Herron Hill (Prince George--Peace River) Lebel Lill MacKay (Pictou--Antigonish--Guysborough) Martin (Winnipeg Centre) McDonough McNally Nystrom Paquette Proctor Stoffer Strahl Thompson (New Brunswick Southwest) Tremblay (Lac-Saint-Jean--Saguenay) Wasylycia-Leis Wayne -- 30 NAYS -- CONTRE Abbott Anderson (Cypress Hills--Grasslands) Anderson (Victoria) Bagnell Bailey Bélanger Bellemare Bennett Benoit Binet Blondin-Andrew Breitkreuz Byrne Caccia Cannis Cauchon Chamberlain Chatters Collenette Comuzzi Copps Cullen Cummins Day DeVillers Dion Discepola Dromisky Duplain Eggleton Epp Eyking Fitzpatrick Fontana Gagliano Gallant Godfrey Gouk Guarnieri Hanger Harb Harris Harvard Hilstrom Hinton Hubbard Ianno Jennings Johnston Karetak-Lindell Kenney (Calgary Southeast) LeBlanc Lunn (Saanich--Gulf Islands) Lunney (Nanaimo--Alberni) MacAulay Macklin Malhi Manning Matthews Mayfield McLellan Merrifield Mills (Red Deer) Minna Murphy O'Brien (Labrador) Obhrai Pallister Paradis Patry Rajotte Reed (Halton) Reid (Lanark--Carleton) Richardson Ritz Robillard Rock Savoy Scherrer Schmidt Scott Skelton Sorenson Spencer St. Denis Steckle Stewart Tirabassi Toews Tonks Torsney Ur Valeri Vellacott Whelan Yelich -- 96 PAIRED -- PAIRÉS Asselin Bachand (Saint-Jean) Castonguay Desrochers Folco Gallaway Harvey Kilgour (Edmonton Southeast) Loubier Pettigrew Picard (Drummond) Rocheleau

Group No. 4

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 10 of Mr. Clark (Calgary Centre), seconded by Mr. MacKay (Pictou--Antigonish--Guysborough), -- That Bill C-36, in Clause 145, be amended by replacing lines 1 to 19 on page 183 with the following:

“145. Three years after this Act receives royal assent, the provisions of this Act shall expire, except the following:

(a) the provisions that fulfill Canada's commitment under the conventions listed in the definition "United Nations operation" in subsection 2(2) and the definition "terrorist activity" in subsection 83.01(1) of the Criminal Code, as enacted by section 4;

(b) sections 11, 12, 13 and 102.”

The question was put on Motion No. 10 and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division No. 187 -- Vote No 187) YEAS: 39, NAYS: 91 YEAS -- POUR Bailey Blaikie Borotsik Breitkreuz Casey Clark Comartin Cummins Davies Doyle Elley Fitzpatrick Godin Gouk Hearn Herron Hill (Prince George--Peace River) Hinton Lill Lunn (Saanich--Gulf Islands) MacKay (Pictou--Antigonish--Guysborough) Martin (Winnipeg Centre) Mayfield McDonough McNally Merrifield Nystrom Obhrai Pallister Proctor Rajotte Reid (Lanark--Carleton) Spencer Stoffer Strahl Telegdi Thompson (New Brunswick Southwest) Wasylycia-Leis Wayne -- 39 NAYS -- CONTRE Abbott Anderson (Victoria) Bélanger Bellemare Bennett Benoit Bonwick Breitkreuz Brien Bulte Byrne Caccia Cannis Cauchon Chamberlain Chatters Collenette Copps Cotler Cullen Cummins Day DeVillers Discepola Dromisky Duceppe Eggleton Epp Fontana Gallant Graham Guarnieri Guay Hanger Harb Harris Harvard Hilstrom Hubbard Ianno Jennings Karetak-Lindell Kenney (Calgary Southeast) Knutson Kraft Sloan Lanctôt Lastewka Lavigne Lincoln Longfield Lunney (Nanaimo--Alberni) MacAulay Mahoney Malhi Manning Matthews McKay (Scarborough East) McLellan McTeague Mills (Red Deer) O'Brien (Labrador) Paradis Parrish Patry Peric Plamondon Price Proulx Reed (Halton) Richardson Ritz Robillard Rock Roy Schmidt Scott Sgro Skelton Sorenson St. Denis Steckle Stewart Thibeault (Saint-Lambert) Toews Torsney Tremblay (Lac-Saint-Jean--Saguenay) Ur Valeri Whelan Wilfert Yelich -- 91 PAIRED -- PAIRÉS Asselin Bachand (Saint-Jean) Castonguay Desrochers Folco Gallaway Harvey Kilgour (Edmonton Southeast) Loubier Pettigrew Picard (Drummond) Rocheleau

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 13 of Mr. Reid (Lanark--Carleton), seconded by Mr. Penson (Peace River), -- That Bill C-36 be amended by adding after line 28 on page 183 the following new clause:

“147. Sections 6, 6.1, 7, 8 and 81 of this Act, and section 38.13 of the Canada Evidence Act as enacted by this Act cease to apply at the end of the fifteenth sitting day of Parliament after December 31, 2006, notwithstanding section 146.”

The question was put on Motion No. 13 and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division No. 188 -- Vote No 188) YEAS: 28, NAYS: 106 YEAS -- POUR Abbott Anderson (Cypress Hills--Grasslands) Bailey Benoit Blaikie Breitkreuz Comartin Davies Elley Fitzpatrick Gallant Godin Gouk Hilstrom Lill Martin (Winnipeg Centre) Mayfield McDonough Merrifield Nystrom Obhrai Pallister Proctor Rajotte Reid (Lanark--Carleton) Spencer Stoffer Wasylycia-Leis -- 28 NAYS -- CONTRE Anderson (Victoria) Bagnell Bélanger Bellemare Bennett Bergeron Binet Borotsik Bourgeois Byrne Caccia Cannis Casey Cauchon Chamberlain Chatters Clark Collenette Comuzzi Copps Cotler Crête Cullen Cummins Cuzner Day Doyle Duceppe Duplain Eggleton Epp Eyking Fontana Guarnieri Hanger Harb Harris Harvard Hearn Herron Hill (Prince George--Peace River) Hinton Hubbard Ianno Jaffer Johnston Karetak-Lindell Kenney (Calgary Southeast) Knutson Kraft Sloan Lastewka Lavigne LeBlanc Lincoln Longfield Lunn (Saanich--Gulf Islands) Lunney (Nanaimo--Alberni) MacAulay MacKay (Pictou--Antigonish--Guysborough) Macklin Mahoney Marceau McKay (Scarborough East) McLellan McNally McTeague Mills (Red Deer) Murphy O'Brien (Labrador) Paradis Parrish Patry Peric Price Proulx Reed (Halton) Richardson Ritz Robillard Rock Roy Savoy Scherrer Schmidt Scott Sgro Skelton Sorenson St-Hilaire St. Denis Steckle Stewart Strahl Thibeault (Saint-Lambert) Thompson (New Brunswick Southwest) Tirabassi Toews Tonks Torsney Ur Valeri Venne Wayne Whelan Wilfert Yelich -- 106 PAIRED -- PAIRÉS Asselin Bachand (Saint-Jean) Castonguay Desrochers Folco Gallaway Harvey Kilgour (Edmonton Southeast) Loubier Pettigrew Picard (Drummond) Rocheleau

Ms. McLellan (Minister of Justice), seconded by Mr. Boudria (Minister of State and Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), moved, -- That Bill C-36, An Act to amend the Criminal Code, the Official Secrets Act, the Canada Evidence Act, the Proceeds of Crime (Money Laundering) Act and other Acts, and to enact measures respecting the registration of charities in order to combat terrorism, as amended, be concurred in at report stage with a further amendment.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:

(Division No. 189 -- Vote No 189) YEAS: 171, NAYS: 40 YEAS -- POUR Adams Alcock Anderson (Cypress Hills--Grasslands) Anderson (Victoria) Assad Assadourian Augustine Bagnell Bailey Bakopanos Barnes Bélanger Bellemare Bennett Benoit Bertrand Binet Blondin-Andrew Bonin Bonwick Borotsik Boudria Breitkreuz Brown Bryden Bulte Byrne Caccia Calder Cannis Casey Catterall Cauchon Chamberlain Chatters Clark Collenette Comuzzi Copps Cotler Cullen Cummins Cuzner Day DeVillers Dion Discepola Doyle Dromisky Drouin Duplain Eggleton Elley Epp Eyking Finlay Fitzpatrick Fontana Fry Gagliano Gallant Godfrey Graham Guarnieri Hanger Harb Harris Harvard Hearn Hill (Prince George--Peace River) Hilstrom Hinton Hubbard Ianno Jaffer Jennings Jordan Karetak-Lindell Kenney (Calgary Southeast) Keyes Knutson Kraft Sloan Lastewka Lavigne LeBlanc Lee Leung Lincoln Longfield Lunn (Saanich--Gulf Islands) Lunney (Nanaimo--Alberni) MacAulay MacKay (Pictou--Antigonish--Guysborough) Macklin Mahoney Malhi Manning Matthews Mayfield McCallum McCormick McGuire McKay (Scarborough East) McLellan McNally McTeague Merrifield Mills (Red Deer) Mills (Toronto--Danforth) Minna Mitchell Murphy Myers Nault Normand O'Brien (Labrador) O'Brien (London--Fanshawe) O'Reilly Obhrai Owen Pallister Paradis Parrish Patry Peric Peterson Phinney Pickard (Chatham--Kent Essex) Price Proulx Provenzano Rajotte Redman Reed (Halton) Regan Richardson Ritz Robillard Rock Savoy Scherrer Schmidt Scott Serré Sgro Skelton Sorenson Speller Spencer St. Denis Steckle Stewart Strahl Thibault (West Nova) Thibeault (Saint-Lambert) Thompson (New Brunswick Southwest) Tirabassi Toews Tonks Torsney Ur Valeri Vanclief Vellacott Volpe Wappel Wayne Whelan Wilfert Wood Yelich -- 171 NAYS -- CONTRE Abbott Bellehumeur Bergeron Bigras Blaikie Bourgeois Brien Cardin Comartin Crête Dalphond-Guiral Davies Duceppe Gagnon (Québec) Gauthier Girard-Bujold Godin Guay Guimond Johnston Lalonde Lanctôt Lill Marceau Martin (Winnipeg Centre) McDonough Ménard Nystrom Paquette Plamondon Proctor Reid (Lanark--Carleton) Roy Sauvageau St-Hilaire Stoffer Tremblay (Lac-Saint-Jean--Saguenay) Tremblay (Rimouski-Neigette-et-la Mitis) Venne Wasylycia-Leis -- 40 PAIRED -- PAIRÉS Asselin Bachand (Saint-Jean) Castonguay Desrochers Folco Gallaway Harvey Kilgour (Edmonton Southeast) Loubier Pettigrew Picard (Drummond) Rocheleau

Accordingly, the Bill, as amended, was concurred in at report stage with a further amendment.

Adjournment

At 8:25 p.m., the Deputy Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow at 2:00 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).