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HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA
37th PARLIAMENT, 1st SESSION


JOURNALS

No. 144

Tuesday, February 19, 2002

10:00 a.m.



Prayers

Daily Routine Of Business

Tabling of Documents

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Regan (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, — Government response, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to the following petition:

— No. 371-0560 concerning the Robert Latimer case. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-371-58-07.

Presenting Reports from Committees

Mr. Williams (St. Albert) , from the Standing Committee on Public Accounts, presented the 14th Report of the Committee (Chapter 25 of the December 2000 Report of the Auditor General of Canada). — Sessional Paper No. 8510-371-128.

Pursuant to Standing Order 109, the Committee requested that the government table a comprehensive response.

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings (Meetings Nos. 30 and 39) was tabled.


Mr. Williams (St. Albert) , from the Standing Committee on Public Accounts, presented the 15th Report of the Committee (Chapter 18 of the December 2000 Report of the Auditor General of Canada). — Sessional Paper No. 8510-371-129.

Pursuant to Standing Order 109, the Committee requested that the government table a comprehensive response.

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings (Meetings Nos. 25 and 39) was tabled.


Mr. Williams (St. Albert) , from the Standing Committee on Public Accounts, presented the 16th Report of the Committee (Chapter 24 of the December 2000 Report of the Auditor General of Canada). — Sessional Paper No. 8510-371-130.

Pursuant to Standing Order 109, the Committee requested that the government table a comprehensive response.

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings (Meetings Nos. 29 and 39) was tabled.

Presenting Petitions

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were presented as follows:

— by Mr. Williams (St. Albert) , one concerning health care services (No. 371-0576);

— by Mr. Doyle (St. John's East) , one concerning health care services (No. 371-0577).

Government Orders

The Order was read for the consideration of the Business of Supply.

Mr. Ménard (Hochelaga--Maisonneuve) , seconded by Mr. Lanctôt (Châteauguay) , moved, — That this House condemn the government for withdrawing from health-care funding, for no longer shouldering more than 14 per cent of the costs of health care, and for attempting to invade provincial areas of jurisdiction by using the preliminary report by the Romanow Commission to impose its own vision of health care.

Debate arose thereon.

Statements By Members

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

Oral Questions

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

Royal Assent

The Speaker informed the House that the Honourable the Deputy Governor General will proceed to the Senate today at 2:55 p.m., for the purpose of giving the Royal Assent to a Bill.


A Message was received from the Honourable Jack Major, Puisne Judge of the Supreme Court of Canada, in his capacity as Deputy Governor General, desiring the immediate attendance of the Commons in the Senate.

Accordingly, the Speaker, with the Commons, proceeded to the Senate.

The Commons returned to the Chamber.

Whereupon, the Speaker reported that when the Commons had been in the Senate, the Honourable the Deputy Governor General was pleased to give, in Her Majesty's name, the Royal Assent to the following Bill:

    Bill C-7, An Act in respect of criminal justice for young persons and to amend and repeal other Acts — Chapter No. 1.

Government Orders

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Ménard (Hochelaga--Maisonneuve) , seconded by Mr. Lanctôt (Châteauguay) , in relation to the Business of Supply.

The debate continued.

Motions

By unanimous consent, it was ordered, — That the Standing Committee on Fisheries and Oceans be authorized to travel to Boston, Massachussetts, Nova Scotia, Newfoundland and Labrador, and Québec, from March 12 to 20, 2002, to continue its studies on the Canadian Coast Guard's Marine Communication and Traffic Services and aquaculture and fisheries issues, and that the necessary staff do accompany the Committee.

Government Orders

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Ménard (Hochelaga--Maisonneuve) , seconded by Mr. Lanctôt (Châteauguay) , in relation to the Business of Supply.

The debate continued.

At 5:15 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 81(16), the Speaker interrupted the proceedings.

The question was put on the motion and it was negatived on the following division:

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(Division No. 231 -- Vote No 231)

YEAS: 70, NAYS: 141

YEAS -- POUR
Abbott
Anders
Bachand (Richmond--Arthabaska)
Bellehumeur
Bergeron
Bigras
Breitkreuz
Brien
Brison
Burton
Cadman
Casson
Chatters
Clark
Crête
Cummins
Dalphond-Guiral
Doyle
Dubé
Duceppe
Epp
Fournier
Gagnon (Québec)
Gagnon (Champlain)
Gallant
Gauthier
Girard-Bujold
Grewal
Grey
Guay
Guimond
Hearn
Herron
Hill (Prince George--Peace River)
Hinton
Jaffer
Johnston
Keddy (South Shore)
Kenney (Calgary Southeast)
Laframboise
Lalonde
Lanctôt
Lebel
Loubier
Lunn (Saanich--Gulf Islands)
MacKay (Pictou--Antigonish--Guysborough)
Marceau
McNally
Ménard
Meredith
Merrifield
Mills (Red Deer)
Moore
Pankiw
Paquette
Picard (Drummond)
Plamondon
Rajotte
Ritz
Sauvageau
Schmidt
Skelton
Solberg
Sorenson
St-Hilaire
Stinson
Strahl
Thompson (New Brunswick Southwest)
Toews
Tremblay (Lac-Saint-Jean--Saguenay) -- 70
NAYS -- CONTRE
Alcock
Allard
Anderson (Victoria)
Assad
Assadourian
Augustine
Bagnell
Barnes
Bélanger
Bellemare
Bennett
Bertrand
Bevilacqua
Binet
Blaikie
Blondin-Andrew
Bonin
Boudria
Bradshaw
Brown
Bryden
Bulte
Byrne
Caccia
Cannis
Carroll
Castonguay
Catterall
Cauchon
Chamberlain
Charbonneau
Coderre
Comartin
Comuzzi
Copps
Cotler
Cuzner
Desjarlais
DeVillers
Dhaliwal
Dion
Discepola
Dromisky
Drouin
Duplain
Easter
Eggleton
Eyking
Finlay
Folco
Fontana
Gallaway
Godfrey
Godin
Goodale
Graham
Grose
Harvard
Harvey
Ianno
Jackson
Jennings
Jordan
Karetak-Lindell
Keyes
Laliberte
Lastewka
Lavigne
LeBlanc
Leung
Lill
Lincoln
Longfield
MacAulay
Macklin
Malhi
Maloney
Manley
Marleau
Martin (Winnipeg Centre)
Martin (LaSalle--Émard)
Matthews
McCallum
McDonough
McGuire
McKay (Scarborough East)
McLellan
McTeague
Minna
Mitchell
Murphy
Myers
Nault
Neville
Normand
Nystrom
O'Brien (Labrador)
O'Brien (London--Fanshawe)
O'Reilly
Owen
Pagtakhan
Paradis
Patry
Peric
Peschisolido
Peterson
Phinney
Pickard (Chatham--Kent Essex)
Pillitteri
Pratt
Price
Redman
Reed (Halton)
Regan
Richardson
Robillard
Robinson
Rock
Saada
Savoy
Scherrer
Scott
Sgro
Shepherd
Speller
St-Jacques
St-Julien
St. Denis
Stewart
Stoffer
Szabo
Thibault (West Nova)
Thibeault (Saint-Lambert)
Tirabassi
Tonks
Valeri
Volpe
Wappel
Wasylycia-Leis
Whelan
Wilfert -- 141
PAIRED -- PAIRÉS
Asselin
Bachand (Saint-Jean)
Baker
Bonwick
Calder
Desrochers
Fry
Kilgour (Edmonton Southeast)
Knutson
Perron
Proulx
Rocheleau
Roy
Tremblay (Rimouski-Neigette-et-la Mitis)

Private Members' Business

Pursuant to Order made Thursday, February 7, 2002, the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the motion of Mr. Godfrey (Don Valley West) , seconded by Mr. Wilfert (Oak Ridges) , — That Bill S-14, An Act respecting Sir John A. Macdonald Day and Sir Wilfrid Laurier Day, be now read a third time and do pass.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:

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(Division No. 232 -- Vote No 232)

YEAS: 165, NAYS: 42.

YEAS -- POUR
Abbott
Alcock
Allard
Anderson (Victoria)
Assad
Assadourian
Augustine
Bachand (Richmond--Arthabaska)
Bagnell
Barnes
Bélanger
Bellemare
Bennett
Bertrand
Bevilacqua
Binet
Blaikie
Blondin-Andrew
Bonin
Boudria
Bradshaw
Brison
Brown
Bryden
Bulte
Burton
Byrne
Caccia
Cannis
Carroll
Castonguay
Catterall
Cauchon
Chamberlain
Charbonneau
Clark
Comartin
Comuzzi
Copps
Cotler
Cummins
Cuzner
Desjarlais
DeVillers
Dhaliwal
Dion
Discepola
Doyle
Dromisky
Drouin
Duplain
Easter
Eggleton
Eyking
Finlay
Folco
Fontana
Godfrey
Godin
Goodale
Graham
Grewal
Grey
Grose
Harvard
Harvey
Hearn
Herron
Hill (Prince George--Peace River)
Ianno
Jackson
Jaffer
Jennings
Jordan
Karetak-Lindell
Keddy (South Shore)
Kenney (Calgary Southeast)
Keyes
Laliberte
Lastewka
Lavigne
LeBlanc
Leung
Lill
Lincoln
Longfield
Lunn (Saanich--Gulf Islands)
MacAulay
MacKay (Pictou--Antigonish--Guysborough)
Macklin
Malhi
Maloney
Manley
Marleau
Martin (Winnipeg Centre)
Martin (LaSalle--Émard)
Matthews
McCallum
McDonough
McGuire
McKay (Scarborough East)
McLellan
McNally
Meredith
Merrifield
Minna
Mitchell
Murphy
Myers
Nault
Neville
Normand
Nystrom
O'Brien (Labrador)
O'Brien (London--Fanshawe)
O'Reilly
Owen
Pagtakhan
Pankiw
Paradis
Patry
Peric
Peschisolido
Peterson
Phinney
Pickard (Chatham--Kent Essex)
Pillitteri
Pratt
Price
Rajotte
Redman
Reed (Halton)
Regan
Richardson
Robillard
Rock
Saada
Savoy
Scherrer
Schmidt
Scott
Sgro
Shepherd
Skelton
Solberg
Speller
St-Jacques
St-Julien
St. Denis
Stewart
Stoffer
Strahl
Szabo
Thibault (West Nova)
Thibeault (Saint-Lambert)
Thompson (New Brunswick Southwest)
Tirabassi
Toews
Tonks
Valeri
Volpe
Wappel
Wasylycia-Leis
Whelan
Wilfert -- 165
NAYS -- CONTRE
Anders
Bellehumeur
Bergeron
Bigras
Breitkreuz
Brien
Cadman
Casson
Chatters
Crête
Dalphond-Guiral
Dubé
Duceppe
Duncan
Epp
Fournier
Gagnon (Québec)
Gagnon (Champlain)
Gallant
Gauthier
Girard-Bujold
Guay
Guimond
Hinton
Johnston
Laframboise
Lalonde
Lanctôt
Lebel
Loubier
Marceau
Mills (Red Deer)
Moore
Paquette
Picard (Drummond)
Plamondon
Ritz
Sauvageau
Sorenson
St-Hilaire
Stinson
Tremblay (Lac-Saint-Jean--Saguenay) -- 42
PAIRED -- PAIRÉS
Asselin
Bachand (Saint-Jean)
Baker
Bonwick
Calder
Desrochers
Fry
Kilgour (Edmonton Southeast)
Knutson
Perron
Proulx
Rocheleau
Roy
Tremblay (Rimouski-Neigette-et-la Mitis)

Accordingly, the Bill was read the third time and passed.


At 5:55 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 30(7), the House proceeded to the consideration of Private Members' Business.

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mrs. Desjarlais (Churchill) , seconded by Ms. Lill (Dartmouth) , — That Bill C-284, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (offences by corporations, directors and officers), be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights.

By unanimous consent, it was ordered, — That Bill C-284, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (offences by corporations, directors and officers), be not now read a second time but that the Order be discharged, the Bill withdrawn, and the subject-matter thereof referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights.

Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(1), a paper deposited with the Clerk of the House was laid upon the Table as follows:

— by Mr. Graham (Minister of Foreign Affairs) — Copy of Regulations amending the United Nations Suppression of Terrorism Regulations (SOR/2002-42), pursuant to the United Nations Act, R.S. 1985, c. U-2, sbs. 4(1). — Sessional Paper No. 8560-371-592-11. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs and International Trade)

Adjournment

At 5:56 p.m., the Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow at 2:00 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).