HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA
37^TH PARLIAMENT, 1^st SESSION

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JOURNALS

No. 017

Tuesday, February 20, 2001

10:00 a.m.

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The Clerk informed the House of the unavoidable absence of the Speaker.

Whereupon, Mr. Kilger (Stormont -- Dundas -- Charlottenburgh), Deputy Speaker and Chairman of Committees of the Whole, took the Chair, pursuant to subsection 43(1) of the Parliament of Canada Act.

PRAYERS

WAYS AND MEANS

Mr. Peterson (Secretary of State (International Financial Institutions)) laid upon the Table, -- Notice of a Ways and Means motion to amend the Excise Tax Act. (Ways and Means Proceedings No. 2) -- Sessional Paper No. 8570- 371-2.

Pursuant to Standing Order 83(2), at the request of Mr. Peterson (Secretary of State (International Financial Institutions)), an Order of the Day was designated for the consideration of this Ways and Means motion.

DAILY ROUTINE OF BUSINESS

Introduction of Government Bills

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Ms. Copps (Minister of Canadian Heritage), seconded by Mr. Peterson (Secretary of State (International Financial Institutions)), Bill C-10, An Act respecting the national marine conservation areas of Canada, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Recommendation
(Pursuant to Standing Order 79(2))

Her Excellency the Governor General recommends to the House of Commons the appropriation of public revenue under the circumstances, in the manner and for the purposes set out in a measure entitled ``An Act respecting the national marine conservation areas of Canada''.

Presenting Petitions

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, a petition certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions was presented as follows:

-- by Mr. Robinson (Burnaby -- Douglas), concerning the situation in the Middle East (No. 371-0038).

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The Order was read for the consideration of the Business of Supply.

Ms. McDonough (Halifax), seconded by Mr. Blaikie (Winnipeg -- Transcona), moved, -- That this House strike a special all-party committee to examine the merits of various models of proportional representation and other electoral reforms, with a view to recommending reforms that would combat the increasing regionalization of Canadian politics, and the declining turnout of Canadians in federal elections.

Debate arose thereon.

Mr. Nystrom (Regina -- Qu'Appelle), seconded by Mr. Martin (Winnipeg Centre), moved the following amendment, -- That the motion be amended by adding after the word ``House'' the word ``immediately''.

Debate arose thereon.

STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

ORAL QUESTIONS

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Ms. McDonough (Halifax), seconded by Mr. Blaikie (Winnipeg Transcona), in relation to the Business of Supply;

And of the amendment of Mr. Nystrom (Regina -- Qu'Appelle), seconded by Mr. Martin (Winnipeg Centre).

The debate continued.

At 5:30 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 81(19), the proceedings expired.

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Pursuant to Order made Thursday, February 15, 2001, the House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Paquette (Joliette), seconded by Ms. Bourgeois (Terrebonne -- Blainville),

-- That this House demand that the government bring any draft agreement on the Free Trade Zone of the Americas before the House so that it may be debated and put to a vote before ratification by the Government of Canada.

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the amendment of Ms. Lalonde (Mercier), seconded by Mr. Sauvageau (Repentigny), -- That the motion be amended by adding after the words ``demand that'' the following:

``, in order to ensure openness,''

The question was put on the amendment and, by unanimous consent, it was deemed negatived on division.

Pursuant to Standing Order 81(16), the question was put on the main motion and it was negatived on the following division:

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(Division--Vote N^o 9)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Anders -- Anderson --  (Cypress Hills -- Grasslands) -- Asselin -- Bailey -- Bellehumeur -- Bergeron -- Bigras -- Blaikie -- Borotsik -- Bourgeois -- Breitkreuz -- Brien -- Brison -- Burton -- Cadman -- Cardin -- Casey -- Casson -- Chatters -- Clark -- Comartin -- Crête -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Day -- Desrochers -- Doyle -- Dubé -- Duceppe -- Duncan -- Elley -- Epp -- Fitzpatrick -- Gagnon --  (Champlain) -- Gagnon --  (Québec) -- Gallant -- Gauthier -- Girard-Bujold -- Godin -- Goldring -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Guay -- Guimond -- Hearn -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hilstrom -- Hinton -- Jaffer -- Johnston -- Kenney --  (Calgary Southeast) -- Laframboise -- Lalonde -- Lanctôt -- Lebel -- Lill -- Loubier -- Lunn --  (Saanich -- Gulf Islands) -- Lunney --  (Nanaimo -- Alberni) -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Manning -- Marceau -- Mark -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- Mayfield -- McDonough -- McNally -- Ménard -- Meredith -- Merrifield -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Moore -- Nystrom -- Obhrai -- Pallister -- Pankiw -- Paquette -- Penson -- Perron -- Peschisolido -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Proctor -- Rajotte -- Reid --  (Lanark -- Carleton) -- Reynolds -- Ritz -- Robinson -- Roy -- Sauvageau -- Schmidt -- Skelton -- Solberg -- Sorenson -- Spencer -- St-Hilaire -- Stinson -- Stoffer -- Strahl -- Thompson --  (New Brunswick Southwest) -- Thompson --  (Wild Rose) -- Toews -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean -- Saguenay) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski-Neigette-et-la Mitis) -- Vellacott -- Venne -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Wayne -- White --  (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- Yelich -- 113

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Allard -- Anderson --  (Victoria) -- Assad -- Augustine -- Bagnell -- Baker -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Binet -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Boudria -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Caccia -- Calder -- Cannis -- Caplan -- Carignan -- Carroll -- Castonguay -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Charbonneau -- Coderre -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Cotler -- Cullen -- Cuzner -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Duhamel -- Duplain -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Eyking -- Farrah -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Gagliano -- Gallaway -- Godfrey -- Graham -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Harvard -- Harvey -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Keyes -- Knutson -- Laliberte -- LeBlanc -- Lee -- Leung -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- MacAulay -- Macklin -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marcil -- Marleau -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Matthews -- McCallum -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan -- McTeague -- Mills --  (Toronto -- Danforth) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murphy -- Myers -- Nault -- Neville -- O'Brien --  (Labrador) -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Owen -- Paradis -- Patry -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Pickard --  (Chatham -- Kent Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Price -- Proulx -- Provenzano -- Redman -- Reed --  (Halton) -- Richardson -- Robillard -- Saada -- Savoy -- Scherrer -- Scott -- Serré -- Sgro -- Shepherd -- Speller -- St. Denis -- St-Jacques -- St-Julien -- Steckle -- Stewart -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault --  (Saint-Lambert) -- Tirabassi -- Tobin -- Tonks -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Wappel -- Whelan -- Wilfert -- Wood -- 147

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Fry -- Regan -- Rocheleau

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Pursuant to Standing Order 45, the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the motion of Mr. Goodale (Minister of Natural Resources), seconded by Ms. Robillard (President of the Treasury Board), -- That Bill C-4, An Act to establish a foundation to fund sustainable development technology, be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Aboriginal Affairs, Northern Development and Natural Resources.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:

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(Division--Vote N^o 10)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Allard -- Anderson --  (Victoria) -- Assad -- Augustine -- Bagnell -- Baker -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Binet -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Borotsik -- Boudria -- Brison -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Caccia -- Calder -- Cannis -- Caplan -- Carignan -- Carroll -- Casey -- Castonguay -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Charbonneau -- Clark -- Coderre -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Cotler -- Cullen -- Cuzner -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Doyle -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Duhamel -- Duplain -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Eyking -- Farrah -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Gagliano -- Gallaway -- Godfrey -- Graham -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Harvard -- Harvey -- Hearn -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Keyes -- Knutson -- Laliberte -- LeBlanc -- Lee -- Leung -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- MacAulay -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Macklin -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marcil -- Marleau -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Matthews -- McCallum -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan -- McTeague -- Mills --  (Toronto -- Danforth) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murphy -- Myers -- Nault -- Neville -- O'Brien --  (Labrador) -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Owen -- Paradis -- Patry -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Pickard --  (Chatham -- Kent Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Price -- Proulx -- Provenzano -- Redman -- Reed --  (Halton) -- Richardson -- Robillard -- Saada -- Savoy -- Scherrer -- Scott -- Serré -- Sgro -- Shepherd -- Speller -- St. Denis -- St-Jacques -- St-Julien -- Steckle -- Stewart -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault --  (Saint-Lambert) -- Thompson --  (New Brunswick Southwest) -- Tirabassi -- Tobin -- Tonks -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Wappel -- Wayne -- Whelan -- Wilfert -- Wood -- 156

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Anders -- Anderson --  (Cypress Hills -- Grasslands) -- Asselin -- Bailey -- Bellehumeur -- Bergeron -- Bigras -- Blaikie -- Bourgeois -- Breitkreuz -- Brien -- Burton -- Cadman -- Cardin -- Casson -- Chatters -- Comartin -- Crête -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Day -- Desrochers -- Dubé -- Duceppe -- Duncan -- Elley -- Epp -- Fitzpatrick -- Gagnon --  (Champlain) -- Gagnon --  (Québec) -- Gallant -- Gauthier -- Girard-Bujold -- Godin -- Goldring -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Guay -- Guimond -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hilstrom -- Hinton -- Jaffer -- Johnston -- Kenney --  (Calgary Southeast) -- Laframboise -- Lalonde -- Lanctôt -- Lebel -- Lill -- Loubier -- Lunn --  (Saanich -- Gulf Islands) -- Lunney --  (Nanaimo -- Alberni) -- Manning -- Marceau -- Mark -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- Mayfield -- McDonough -- McNally -- Ménard -- Meredith -- Merrifield -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Moore -- Nystrom -- Obhrai -- Pallister -- Pankiw -- Paquette -- Penson -- Perron -- Peschisolido -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Proctor -- Rajotte -- Reid --  (Lanark -- Carleton) -- Reynolds -- Ritz -- Robinson -- Roy -- Sauvageau -- Schmidt -- Skelton -- Solberg -- Sorenson -- Spencer -- St-Hilaire -- Stinson -- Stoffer -- Strahl -- Thompson --  (Wild Rose) -- Toews -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean -- Saguenay) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski-Neigette-et-la Mitis) -- Vellacott -- Venne -- Wasylycia-Leis -- White --  (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- Yelich -- 104

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Fry -- Regan -- Rocheleau

Accordingly, the Bill was read the second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Aboriginal Affairs, Northern Development and Natural Resources.

MOTIONS

By unanimous consent, it was ordered, -- That the Order for consideration of Ways and Means Motion No. 2 be deemed to have been read and a motion to concur deemed moved, seconded and agreed to on division.

PRIVATE MEMBERS' BUSINESS

At 6:06 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 30(7), the House proceeded to the consideration of Private Members' Business.

Mr. Blaikie (Winnipeg -- Transcona), seconded by Ms. Wasylycia-Leis (Winnipeg North Centre), moved, -- That this House recognize the importance of April 13 to all Sikhs and the contributions that Canadian Sikhs have made to our country, and that this House also recognize the importance of the five K's: the KIRPAN -- a sword representing indomitable spirit; KES -- unshorn hair, representing a simple life, saintliness and devotion to God; KARA -- a steel bangle worn as a sign of the eternity of God; KANGA -- a wooden comb worn to represent a clean mind and body; and KACHA -- short breeches, representing hygienic living. (Private Members' Business M-32)

Debate arose thereon.

Pursuant to Standing Order 96(1), the Order was dropped from the Order Paper.

RETURNS AND REPORTS DEPOSITED WITH THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(1), papers deposited with the Clerk of the House were laid upon the Table as follows:

-- by Ms. Bradshaw (Minister of Labour) -- Report on the Employment Equity Act (Labour) for the year 2000, pursuant to the Employment Equity Act, S.C. 1995, c. 44, s. 20. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-371-226-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Human Resources Development and the Status of Persons with Disabilities)

-- by Ms. Bradshaw (Minister of Labour) -- Report of the Canadian Artists and Producers Professional Relations Tribunal for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2000, pursuant to the Status of the Artist Act, S. C. 1992, c. 33, s. 61. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-371-399-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Human Resources Development and the Status of Persons with Disabilities)

ADJOURNMENT PROCEEDINGS

At 6:58 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 38(1), the question ``That this House do now adjourn'' was deemed to have been proposed.

After debate, the question was deemed to have been adopted.

Accordingly, at 7:09 p.m., the Deputy Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow at 2:00 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).