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Journals (No. 038)

HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA
37^TH PARLIAMENT, 1^st SESSION

JOURNALS

No. 038

Wednesday, March 28, 2001

2:00 p.m.

PRAYERS

NATIONAL ANTHEM

STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

ORAL QUESTIONS

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

DAILY ROUTINE OF BUSINESS

Tabling of Documents

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Lee (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to the following petitions:

-- No. 371-0010 concerning gun control. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-371-12-01;

-- No. 371-0013 concerning gasoline additives. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-371-13-01.

Introduction of Private Members' Bills

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Ms. Wasylycia-Leis (Winnipeg North Centre), seconded by Mr. Martin (Winnipeg Centre), Bill C-310, An Act to amend the Food and Drugs Act (mandatory labelling for genetically modified foods), was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Calder (Dufferin -- Peel -- Wellington -- Grey), seconded by Mr. Adams (Peterborough), Bill C-311, An Act to provide for the recognition of the Canadien Horse as the national horse of Canada, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Calder (Dufferin -- Peel -- Wellington -- Grey), seconded by Mr. Adams (Peterborough), Bill C-312, An Act to amend the Statistics Act and the National Archives of Canada Act (census records), was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Ms. Lalonde (Mercier), seconded by Mr. Loubier (Saint- Hyacinthe -- Bagot), Bill C-313, An Act respecting the negotiation, approval, tabling and publication of treaties, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Ms. Lalonde (Mercier), seconded by Mr. Loubier (Saint- Hyacinthe -- Bagot), Bill C-314, An Act to provide for the tabling of treaties in the House of Commons, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Ms. Lalonde (Mercier), seconded by Mr. Loubier (Saint- Hyacinthe -- Bagot), Bill C-315, An Act to provide for the conduct of public hearings and approval by the House of Commons before the ratification of important treaties, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Ms. Lalonde (Mercier), seconded by Mr. Loubier (Saint- Hyacinthe -- Bagot), Bill C-316, An Act to provide for the publication of treaties, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Ms. Lalonde (Mercier), seconded by Mr. Loubier (Saint- Hyacinthe -- Bagot), Bill C-317, An Act to provide for consultation with provincial governments when treaties are negotiated and concluded, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. St-Julien (Abitibi -- Baie-James -- Nunavik), seconded by Mr. Duplain (Portneuf), Bill C-318, An Act respecting the posting of fuel prices by retailers, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Caccia (Davenport), seconded by Mr. Harvey (Chicoutimi-Le Fjord), Bill C-319, An Act to amend the Canada Elections Act (declined-vote ballots), was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Stoffer (Sackville -- Musquodoboit Valley -- Eastern Shore), seconded by Mr. Martin (Winnipeg Centre), Bill C-320, An Act to amend the Income Tax Act (expenses incurred by care-givers), was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Benoit (Lakeland), seconded by Mr. Hill (Macleod), Bill C-321, An Act to amend the Farm Income Protection Act (crop damage by gophers), was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Presenting Petitions

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were presented as follows:

-- by Mr. St-Julien (Abitibi -- Baie-James -- Nunavik), one concerning the mining industry (No. 371-0115);

-- by Mr. Adams (Peterborough), one concerning genetic engineering (No. 371-0116) and one concerning Canada's railways (No. 371-0117);

-- by Ms. Wasylycia-Leis (Winnipeg North Centre), one concerning genetic engineering (No. 371-0118);

-- by Mr. Calder (Dufferin -- Peel -- Wellington -- Grey), one concerning the Canadian census (No. 371-0119);

-- by Mr. Keddy (South Shore), one concerning Katimavik program (No. 371-0120);

-- by Ms. Bulte (Parkdale -- High Park), one concerning environmental assessment and review (No. 371-0121).

Questions on Order Paper

Mr. Lee (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) presented the answers to questions Q-1 and Q-2 on the Order Paper.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The House resumed consideration at report stage of Bill C-4, An Act to establish a foundation to fund sustainable development technology, as reported by the Standing Committee on Aboriginal Affairs, Northern Development and Natural Resources with amendments;

And of the motions in Group No. 1 (Motions Nos. 1, 6 and 10).

Group No. 1

Motion No. 1 of Mr. Cardin (Sherbrooke), seconded by Mr. Roy (Matapédia -- Matane), -- That Bill C-4, in Clause 2, be amended by replacing lines 26 to 29 on page 1 and lines 1 and 2 on page 2 with the following:

Motion No. 6 of Mr. Cardin (Sherbrooke), seconded by Mr. Roy (Matapédia -- Matane), -- That Bill C-4 be amended by adding after line 15 on page 11 the following new clause:

``18.1 The Foundation, the Governor in Council and a provincial minister responsible for the environment may, by unanimous consent, establish criteria of eligibility to be met by the eligible recipients who carry on or will carry on eligible projects primarily in the province of that minister.''

Motion No. 10 of Mr. Borotsik (Brandon -- Souris), seconded by Mr. MacKay (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough), -- That Bill C-4, in Clause 30, be amended by replacing lines 41 and 42 on page 16 with the following:

The debate continued on the motions in Group No. 1.

The question was put on Motion No. 1 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division, which also applies to Motion No. 6, was deferred.

The question was put on Motion No. 10 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred.

Group No. 2

Mr. Keddy (South Shore), seconded by Mr. Bachand (Richmond -- Arthabaska), moved Motion No. 3, -- That Bill C- 4, in Clause 10, be amended by replacing line 22 on page 6 with the following:

``viour for terms that do not exceed five years and that are staggered so that not more than four terms will expire in any year.''

Mr. Keddy (South Shore), seconded by Mr. Bachand (Richmond -- Arthabaska), moved Motion No. 4, -- That Bill C-4, in Clause 10, be amended by replacing lines 34 and 35 on page 6 with the following:

``for one term not exceeding five years.''

Debate arose on the motions in Group No. 2.

The question was put on Motion Nos. 3 and 4 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded divisions were deferred.

Group No. 3

Mr. Goodale (Minister of Natural Resources), seconded by Mr. Coderre (Secretary of State (Amateur Sport)), moved Motion No. 8, -- That Bill C-4, in Clause 26, be amended by replacing, in the English version, lines 10 and 11 on page 15 with the following:

``(3) If an auditor is not appointed at the annual general meeting in any fiscal year, the''

Mr. Chatters (Athabasca), seconded by Mr. Grewal (Surrey Central), moved Motion No. 9, -- That Bill C-4 be amended by adding after line 7 on page 16 the following new clause:

``28.1 (1) The accounts and financial transactions of the Foundation shall be audited by the Auditor General of Canada at such time as the Auditor General considers appropriate, and a report of the audit shall be laid before Parliament.

(2) The Auditor General of Canada has, in connection with any audit made under subsection (1), all the powers that the Auditor General has under the Auditor General Act in connection with the examination of the accounts of Canada.''

Debate arose on the motions in Group No. 3.

The question was put on Motion No. 8 and it was agreed to.

The question was put on Motion No. 9 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred.

Pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded divisions.

Pursuant to Standing Order 45, the recorded divisions were further deferred until later this day, at the expiry of the time provided for Government Orders.

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance), seconded by Mr. Pagtakhan (Secretary of State (Asia-Pacific)), -- That Bill C-18, An Act to amend the Federal-Provincial Fiscal Arrangements Act, be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Finance.

The debate continued.

At 5:30 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 45, the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded divisions at report stage of Bill C-8, An Act to establish the Financial Consumer Agency of Canada and to amend certain Acts in relation to financial institutions, as reported by the Standing Committee on Finance with amendments.

Group No. 1

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 1 of Mr. Harris (Prince George -- Bulkley Valley), seconded by Mr. Epp (Elk Island), -- That Bill C-8, in Clause 5, be amended by replacing lines 14 to 16 on page 5 with the following:

``and report, subject to section 17, to the House of Commons from time to time on all matters connected with the administration of this Act, which stands permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Finance, and of the consumer provisions''

The question was put on Motion No. 1 and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 39)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Anders -- Anderson -- (Cypress Hills -- Grasslands) -- Asselin -- Bachand -- (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bachand -- (Saint-Jean) -- Bailey -- Bellehumeur -- Benoit -- Bergeron -- Bigras -- Blaikie -- Bourgeois -- Breitkreuz -- Brien -- Brison -- Burton -- Cadman -- Cardin -- Casey -- Casson -- Chatters -- Clark -- Comartin -- Crête -- Cummins -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Day -- Desjarlais -- Desrochers -- Dubé -- Duceppe -- Duncan -- Elley -- Epp -- Fitzpatrick -- Forseth -- Gagnon -- (Québec) -- Gallant -- Gauthier -- Girard-Bujold -- Godin -- Goldring -- Gouk -- Grewal -- Grey -- (Edmonton North) -- Guay -- Guimond -- Hanger -- Harris -- Hearn -- Herron -- Hill -- (Macleod) -- Hill -- (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hilstrom -- Hinton -- Jaffer -- Johnston -- Keddy -- (South Shore) -- Kenney -- (Calgary Southeast) -- Laframboise -- Lalonde -- Lanctôt -- Lebel -- Lill -- Loubier -- Lunn -- (Saanich -- Gulf Islands) -- Lunney -- (Nanaimo -- Alberni) -- MacKay -- (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Manning -- Marceau -- Mark -- Martin -- (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Martin -- (Winnipeg Centre) -- McDonough -- McNally -- Ménard -- Meredith -- Merrifield -- Mills -- (Red Deer) -- Moore -- Nystrom -- Obhrai -- Pankiw -- Paquette -- Penson -- Perron -- Peschisolido -- Picard -- (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Proctor -- Rajotte -- Reynolds -- Ritz -- Rocheleau -- Roy -- Sauvageau -- Schmidt -- Skelton -- Solberg -- Sorenson -- St-Hilaire -- Stinson -- Stoffer -- Strahl -- Thompson -- (New Brunswick Southwest) -- Toews -- Tremblay -- (Lac-Saint-Jean -- Saguenay) -- Vellacott -- Venne -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Wayne -- White -- (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- Yelich -- 116

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Bagnell -- Baker -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Binet -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Boudria -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Calder -- Cannis -- Carignan -- Carroll -- Castonguay -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Charbonneau -- Chrétien -- Coderre -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Cotler -- Cullen -- Cuzner -- DeVillers -- Dion -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Duhamel -- Duplain -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Eyking -- Farrah -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Fry -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray -- (Windsor West) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Harvard -- Harvey -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Karygiannis -- Kilgour -- (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Laliberte -- Lastewka -- LeBlanc -- Lee -- Leung -- Longfield -- MacAulay -- Macklin -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marleau -- Martin -- (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Matthews -- McCallum -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKay -- (Scarborough East) -- McLellan -- Mills -- (Toronto -- Danforth) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murphy -- Myers -- Nault -- Neville -- O'Brien -- (Labrador) -- O'Brien -- (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Owen -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Patry -- Pettigrew -- Pickard -- (Chatham -- Kent Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Price -- Provenzano -- Redman -- Reed -- (Halton) -- Regan -- Richardson -- Robillard -- Saada -- Savoy -- Scherrer -- Scott -- Serré -- Sgro -- Shepherd -- Speller -- St. Denis -- St-Jacques -- St-Julien -- Steckle -- Stewart -- Szabo -- Thibault -- (West Nova) -- Tirabassi -- Tonks -- Torsney -- Valeri -- Volpe -- Wappel -- Whelan -- Wood -- 141

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Fournier -- Gagliano -- Gagnon -- (Champlain) -- Peterson -- Proulx -- Tremblay -- (Rimouski-Neigette-et-la Mitis)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 8 of Mr. Nystrom (Regina -- Qu'Appelle), seconded by Mr. Stoffer (Sackville -- Musquodoboit Valley -- Eastern Shore), -- That Bill C-8, in Clause 84, be amended by replacing line 27 on page 39 with the following:

``made.

(4) Except in the case where an amalgamation is the result of one or more of the applicants not being financially sound, an amalgation must be approved by a resolution of the House of Commons supported by a majority of the members of that House and a resolution of the Senate supported by a majority of the members of that House.''

The question was put on Motion No. 8 and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 40)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Blaikie -- Comartin -- Desjarlais -- Godin -- Lill -- Martin -- (Winnipeg Centre) -- McDonough -- Nystrom -- Proctor -- Stoffer -- Wasylycia-Leis -- 11

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Adams -- Alcock -- Anders -- Anderson -- (Cypress Hills -- Grasslands) -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Asselin -- Bachand -- (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bachand -- (Saint-Jean) -- Bagnell -- Bailey -- Baker -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellehumeur -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Benoit -- Bergeron -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Bigras -- Binet -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Boudria -- Bourgeois -- Breitkreuz -- Brien -- Brison -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Burton -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Cadman -- Calder -- Cannis -- Cardin -- Carignan -- Carroll -- Casey -- Casson -- Castonguay -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Charbonneau -- Chatters -- Chrétien -- Clark -- Coderre -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Cotler -- Crête -- Cullen -- Cummins -- Cuzner -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Day -- Desrochers -- DeVillers -- Dion -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Dubé -- Duceppe -- Duhamel -- Duncan -- Duplain -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Elley -- Epp -- Eyking -- Farrah -- Finlay -- Fitzpatrick -- Folco -- Fontana -- Forseth -- Fry -- Gagnon -- (Québec) -- Gallant -- Gauthier -- Girard-Bujold -- Godfrey -- Goldring -- Goodale -- Gouk -- Graham -- Gray -- (Windsor West) -- Grewal -- Grey -- (Edmonton North) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Guay -- Guimond -- Hanger -- Harb -- Harris -- Harvard -- Harvey -- Hearn -- Herron -- Hill -- (Macleod) -- Hill -- (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hilstrom -- Hinton -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Jackson -- Jaffer -- Jennings -- Johnston -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Karygiannis -- Keddy -- (South Shore) -- Kenney -- (Calgary Southeast) -- Kilgour -- (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Laframboise -- Laliberte -- Lalonde -- Lanctôt -- Lastewka -- Lebel -- LeBlanc -- Lee -- Leung -- Longfield -- Loubier -- Lunn -- (Saanich -- Gulf Islands) -- Lunney -- (Nanaimo -- Alberni) -- MacAulay -- MacKay -- (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Macklin -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Manning -- Marceau -- Mark -- Marleau -- Martin -- (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Martin -- (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Matthews -- McCallum -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKay -- (Scarborough East) -- McLellan -- McNally -- Ménard -- Meredith -- Merrifield -- Mills -- (Red Deer) -- Mills -- (Toronto -- Danforth) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Moore -- Murphy -- Myers -- Nault -- Neville -- O'Brien -- (Labrador) -- O'Brien -- (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Obhrai -- Owen -- Pagtakhan -- Pankiw -- Paquette -- Paradis -- Patry -- Penson -- Perron -- Peschisolido -- Pettigrew -- Picard -- (Drummond) -- Pickard -- (Chatham -- Kent Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Plamondon -- Pratt -- Price -- Provenzano -- Rajotte -- Redman -- Reed -- (Halton) -- Regan -- Reynolds -- Richardson -- Ritz -- Robillard -- Rocheleau -- Roy -- Saada -- Sauvageau -- Savoy -- Scherrer -- Schmidt -- Scott -- Serré -- Sgro -- Shepherd -- Skelton -- Solberg -- Sorenson -- Speller -- St. Denis -- St-Hilaire -- St-Jacques -- St-Julien -- Steckle -- Stewart -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Thibault -- (West Nova) -- Thompson -- (New Brunswick Southwest) -- Tirabassi -- Toews -- Tonks -- Torsney -- Tremblay -- (Lac-Saint-Jean -- Saguenay) -- Valeri -- Vellacott -- Venne -- Volpe -- Wappel -- Wayne -- Whelan -- White -- (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- White -- (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- Wood -- Yelich -- 247

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Fournier -- Gagliano -- Gagnon -- (Champlain) -- Peterson -- Proulx -- Tremblay -- (Rimouski-Neigette-et-la Mitis)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 12 of Mr. Nystrom (Regina -- Qu'Appelle), seconded by Mr. Stoffer (Sackville -- Musquodoboit Valley -- Eastern Shore), -- That Bill C-8, in Clause 183, be amended by adding after line 44 on page 367 the following:

``978.1 On the expiration of one year after the coming into force of this Act, and on the expiration of every year thereafter, all regulations made in the previous year by the Governor in Council under this Act shall stand referred to such committee of the House of Commons, of the Senate or of both Houses of Parliament as may be designated or established for that purpose and the committee shall, as soon as practicable thereafter, undertake a comprehensive review of such regulations and shall, within one month after the review is undertaken or within such further time as the House of Commons may authorize, submit a report thereon to Parliament including any recommendations pertaining to the object, impact or necessity of such regulations or any other aspects thereof that the committee deems appropriate.''

The question was put on Motion No. 12 and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 41)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Asselin -- Bachand -- (Saint-Jean) -- Bellehumeur -- Bergeron -- Bigras -- Blaikie -- Bourgeois -- Brien -- Cardin -- Comartin -- Crête -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Desjarlais -- Desrochers -- Dubé -- Duceppe -- Gagnon -- (Québec) -- Gauthier -- Girard-Bujold -- Godin -- Guay -- Guimond -- Laframboise -- Lalonde -- Lanctôt -- Lebel -- Lill -- Loubier -- Marceau -- Martin -- (Winnipeg Centre) -- McDonough -- Ménard -- Nystrom -- Paquette -- Perron -- Picard -- (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Proctor -- Rocheleau -- Roy -- Sauvageau -- St-Hilaire -- Stoffer -- Tremblay -- (Lac-Saint-Jean -- Saguenay) -- Venne -- Wasylycia-Leis -- 46

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Adams -- Alcock -- Anders -- Anderson -- (Cypress Hills -- Grasslands) -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Bachand -- (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bagnell -- Bailey -- Baker -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Benoit -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Binet -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Boudria -- Breitkreuz -- Brison -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Burton -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Cadman -- Calder -- Cannis -- Carignan -- Carroll -- Casey -- Casson -- Castonguay -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Charbonneau -- Chatters -- Chrétien -- Clark -- Coderre -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Cotler -- Cullen -- Cummins -- Cuzner -- Day -- DeVillers -- Dion -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Duhamel -- Duncan -- Duplain -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Elley -- Epp -- Eyking -- Farrah -- Finlay -- Fitzpatrick -- Folco -- Fontana -- Forseth -- Fry -- Gallant -- Godfrey -- Goldring -- Goodale -- Gouk -- Graham -- Gray -- (Windsor West) -- Grewal -- Grey -- (Edmonton North) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Hanger -- Harb -- Harris -- Harvard -- Harvey -- Hearn -- Herron -- Hill -- (Macleod) -- Hill -- (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hilstrom -- Hinton -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Jackson -- Jaffer -- Jennings -- Johnston -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Karygiannis -- Keddy -- (South Shore) -- Kenney -- (Calgary Southeast) -- Kilgour -- (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Laliberte -- Lastewka -- LeBlanc -- Lee -- Leung -- Longfield -- Lunn -- (Saanich -- Gulf Islands) -- Lunney -- (Nanaimo -- Alberni) -- MacAulay -- MacKay -- (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Macklin -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Manning -- Mark -- Marleau -- Martin -- (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Martin -- (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Matthews -- McCallum -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKay -- (Scarborough East) -- McLellan -- McNally -- Meredith -- Merrifield -- Mills -- (Red Deer) -- Mills -- (Toronto -- Danforth) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Moore -- Murphy -- Myers -- Nault -- Neville -- O'Brien -- (Labrador) -- O'Brien -- (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Obhrai -- Owen -- Pagtakhan -- Pankiw -- Paradis -- Patry -- Penson -- Peschisolido -- Pettigrew -- Pickard -- (Chatham -- Kent Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Price -- Provenzano -- Rajotte -- Redman -- Reed -- (Halton) -- Regan -- Reynolds -- Richardson -- Ritz -- Robillard -- Saada -- Savoy -- Scherrer -- Schmidt -- Scott -- Serré -- Sgro -- Shepherd -- Skelton -- Solberg -- Sorenson -- Speller -- St. Denis -- St-Jacques -- St-Julien -- Steckle -- Stewart -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Thibault -- (West Nova) -- Thompson -- (New Brunswick Southwest) -- Tirabassi -- Toews -- Tonks -- Torsney -- Valeri -- Vellacott -- Volpe -- Wappel -- Wayne -- Whelan -- White -- (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- White -- (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- Wood -- Yelich -- 212

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 13 of Mr. Harris (Prince George -- Bulkley Valley), seconded by Mr. Epp (Elk Island), -- That Bill C-8, in Clause 244, be amended by replacing line 9 on page 408 with the following:

``effect of the designation. The Minister must also provide in writing:

The question was put on Motion No. 13 and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 42)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Anders -- Anderson -- (Cypress Hills -- Grasslands) -- Asselin -- Bachand -- (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bachand -- (Saint-Jean) -- Bailey -- Bellehumeur -- Benoit -- Bergeron -- Bigras -- Bourgeois -- Breitkreuz -- Brien -- Brison -- Burton -- Cadman -- Cardin -- Casey -- Casson -- Chatters -- Clark -- Crête -- Cummins -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Day -- Desrochers -- Dubé -- Duceppe -- Duncan -- Elley -- Epp -- Fitzpatrick -- Forseth -- Gagnon -- (Québec) -- Gallant -- Gauthier -- Girard-Bujold -- Goldring -- Gouk -- Grewal -- Grey -- (Edmonton North) -- Guay -- Guimond -- Hanger -- Harris -- Hearn -- Herron -- Hill -- (Macleod) -- Hill -- (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hilstrom -- Hinton -- Jaffer -- Johnston -- Keddy -- (South Shore) -- Kenney -- (Calgary Southeast) -- Laframboise -- Lalonde -- Lanctôt -- Lebel -- Loubier -- Lunn -- (Saanich -- Gulf Islands) -- Lunney -- (Nanaimo -- Alberni) -- MacKay -- (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Manning -- Marceau -- Mark -- Martin -- (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- McNally -- Ménard -- Meredith -- Merrifield -- Mills -- (Red Deer) -- Moore -- Obhrai -- Pankiw -- Paquette -- Penson -- Perron -- Peschisolido -- Picard -- (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Rajotte -- Reynolds -- Ritz -- Rocheleau -- Roy -- Sauvageau -- Schmidt -- Skelton -- Solberg -- Sorenson -- St-Hilaire -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Thompson -- (New Brunswick Southwest) -- Toews -- Tremblay -- (Lac-Saint-Jean -- Saguenay) -- Vellacott -- Venne -- Wayne -- White -- (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- White -- (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- Yelich -- 106

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Bagnell -- Baker -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Binet -- Blaikie -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Boudria -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Calder -- Cannis -- Carignan -- Carroll -- Castonguay -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Charbonneau -- Chrétien -- Coderre -- Collenette -- Comartin -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Cotler -- Cullen -- Cuzner -- Desjarlais -- DeVillers -- Dion -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Duhamel -- Duplain -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Eyking -- Farrah -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Fry -- Godfrey -- Godin -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray -- (Windsor West) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Harvard -- Harvey -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Karygiannis -- Kilgour -- (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Laliberte -- Lastewka -- LeBlanc -- Lee -- Leung -- Lill -- Longfield -- MacAulay -- Macklin -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marleau -- Martin -- (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Martin -- (Winnipeg Centre) -- Matthews -- McCallum -- McCormick -- McDonough -- McGuire -- McKay -- (Scarborough East) -- McLellan -- Mills -- (Toronto -- Danforth) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murphy -- Myers -- Nault -- Neville -- Nystrom -- O'Brien -- (Labrador) -- O'Brien -- (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Owen -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Patry -- Pettigrew -- Pickard -- (Chatham -- Kent Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Price -- Proctor -- Provenzano -- Redman -- Reed -- (Halton) -- Regan -- Richardson -- Robillard -- Saada -- Savoy -- Scherrer -- Scott -- Serré -- Sgro -- Shepherd -- Speller -- St. Denis -- St-Jacques -- St-Julien -- Steckle -- Stewart -- Stoffer -- Szabo -- Thibault -- (West Nova) -- Tirabassi -- Tonks -- Torsney -- Valeri -- Volpe -- Wappel -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Whelan -- Wood -- 152

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Fournier -- Gagliano -- Gagnon -- (Champlain) -- Peterson -- Proulx -- Tremblay -- (Rimouski-Neigette-et-la Mitis)

Group No. 2

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 2 of Mr. Nystrom (Regina -- Qu'Appelle), seconded by Mr. Stoffer (Sackville -- Musquodoboit Valley -- Eastern Shore), -- That Bill C-8, in Clause 19, be amended by replacing line 15 on page 11 with the following:

``committed by a natural person, and $500,000''

The question was put on Motion No. 2 and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 43)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Asselin -- Bachand -- (Saint-Jean) -- Bellehumeur -- Bergeron -- Bigras -- Blaikie -- Bourgeois -- Brien -- Cardin -- Comartin -- Crête -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Desjarlais -- Desrochers -- Dubé -- Duceppe -- Epp -- Gagnon -- (Québec) -- Gauthier -- Girard-Bujold -- Godin -- Guay -- Guimond -- Laframboise -- Lalonde -- Lanctôt -- Lebel -- Lill -- Loubier -- Marceau -- Martin -- (Winnipeg Centre) -- McDonough -- Ménard -- Nystrom -- Paquette -- Perron -- Picard -- (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Proctor -- Rocheleau -- Roy -- Sauvageau -- St-Hilaire -- Stoffer -- Tremblay -- (Lac-Saint-Jean -- Saguenay) -- Venne -- Wasylycia-Leis -- 47

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Adams -- Alcock -- Anders -- Anderson -- (Cypress Hills -- Grasslands) -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Bachand -- (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bagnell -- Bailey -- Baker -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Benoit -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Binet -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Boudria -- Breitkreuz -- Brison -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Burton -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Cadman -- Calder -- Cannis -- Carignan -- Carroll -- Casey -- Casson -- Castonguay -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Charbonneau -- Chatters -- Chrétien -- Clark -- Coderre -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Cotler -- Cullen -- Cummins -- Cuzner -- Day -- DeVillers -- Dion -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Duhamel -- Duncan -- Duplain -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Elley -- Eyking -- Farrah -- Finlay -- Fitzpatrick -- Folco -- Fontana -- Forseth -- Fry -- Gallant -- Godfrey -- Goldring -- Goodale -- Gouk -- Graham -- Gray -- (Windsor West) -- Grewal -- Grey -- (Edmonton North) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Hanger -- Harb -- Harris -- Harvard -- Harvey -- Hearn -- Herron -- Hill -- (Macleod) -- Hill -- (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hilstrom -- Hinton -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Jackson -- Jaffer -- Jennings -- Johnston -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Karygiannis -- Keddy -- (South Shore) -- Kenney -- (Calgary Southeast) -- Kilgour -- (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Laliberte -- Lastewka -- LeBlanc -- Lee -- Leung -- Longfield -- Lunn -- (Saanich -- Gulf Islands) -- Lunney -- (Nanaimo -- Alberni) -- MacAulay -- MacKay -- (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Macklin -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Manning -- Mark -- Marleau -- Martin -- (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Martin -- (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Matthews -- McCallum -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKay -- (Scarborough East) -- McLellan -- McNally -- Meredith -- Merrifield -- Mills -- (Red Deer) -- Mills -- (Toronto -- Danforth) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Moore -- Murphy -- Myers -- Nault -- Neville -- O'Brien -- (Labrador) -- O'Brien -- (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Obhrai -- Owen -- Pagtakhan -- Pankiw -- Paradis -- Patry -- Penson -- Peschisolido -- Pettigrew -- Pickard -- (Chatham -- Kent Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Price -- Provenzano -- Rajotte -- Redman -- Reed -- (Halton) -- Regan -- Reynolds -- Richardson -- Ritz -- Robillard -- Saada -- Savoy -- Scherrer -- Schmidt -- Scott -- Serré -- Sgro -- Shepherd -- Skelton -- Solberg -- Sorenson -- Speller -- St. Denis -- St-Jacques -- St-Julien -- Steckle -- Stewart -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Thibault -- (West Nova) -- Thompson -- (New Brunswick Southwest) -- Tirabassi -- Toews -- Tonks -- Torsney -- Valeri -- Vellacott -- Volpe -- Wappel -- Wayne -- Whelan -- White -- (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- White -- (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- Wood -- Yelich -- 211

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Fournier -- Gagliano -- Gagnon -- (Champlain) -- Peterson -- Proulx -- Tremblay -- (Rimouski-Neigette-et-la Mitis)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 9 of Mr. Loubier (Saint- Hyacinthe -- Bagot), seconded by Ms. Picard (Drummond), -- That Bill C-8, in Clause 98, be amended by replacing lines 24 to 26 on page 62 with the following:

``out by the affiliates of the bank;

The question was put on Motion No. 9 and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 44)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Anders -- Anderson -- (Cypress Hills -- Grasslands) -- Asselin -- Bachand -- (Saint-Jean) -- Bailey -- Bellehumeur -- Benoit -- Bergeron -- Bigras -- Blaikie -- Bourgeois -- Breitkreuz -- Brien -- Burton -- Cadman -- Cardin -- Casson -- Chatters -- Comartin -- Crête -- Cummins -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Day -- Desjarlais -- Desrochers -- Dubé -- Duceppe -- Duncan -- Elley -- Epp -- Fitzpatrick -- Forseth -- Gagnon -- (Québec) -- Gallant -- Gauthier -- Girard-Bujold -- Godin -- Goldring -- Gouk -- Grewal -- Grey -- (Edmonton North) -- Guay -- Guimond -- Hanger -- Harris -- Hill -- (Macleod) -- Hill -- (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hilstrom -- Hinton -- Jaffer -- Johnston -- Kenney -- (Calgary Southeast) -- Laframboise -- Lalonde -- Lanctôt -- Lebel -- Lill -- Loubier -- Lunn -- (Saanich -- Gulf Islands) -- Lunney -- (Nanaimo -- Alberni) -- Manning -- Marceau -- Mark -- Martin -- (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Martin -- (Winnipeg Centre) -- McDonough -- McNally -- Ménard -- Meredith -- Merrifield -- Mills -- (Red Deer) -- Moore -- Nystrom -- Obhrai -- Pankiw -- Paquette -- Penson -- Perron -- Peschisolido -- Picard -- (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Proctor -- Rajotte -- Reynolds -- Ritz -- Rocheleau -- Roy -- Sauvageau -- Schmidt -- Skelton -- Solberg -- Sorenson -- St-Hilaire -- Stinson -- Stoffer -- Strahl -- Toews -- Tremblay -- (Lac-Saint-Jean -- Saguenay) -- Vellacott -- Venne -- Wasylycia-Leis -- White -- (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- White -- (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- Yelich -- 107

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Bachand -- (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bagnell -- Baker -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Binet -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Boudria -- Brison -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Calder -- Cannis -- Carignan -- Carroll -- Casey -- Castonguay -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Charbonneau -- Chrétien -- Clark -- Coderre -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Cotler -- Cullen -- Cuzner -- DeVillers -- Dion -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Duhamel -- Duplain -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Eyking -- Farrah -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Fry -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray -- (Windsor West) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Harvard -- Harvey -- Hearn -- Herron -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Karygiannis -- Keddy -- (South Shore) -- Kilgour -- (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Laliberte -- Lastewka -- LeBlanc -- Lee -- Leung -- Longfield -- MacAulay -- MacKay -- (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Macklin -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marleau -- Martin -- (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Matthews -- McCallum -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKay -- (Scarborough East) -- McLellan -- Mills -- (Toronto -- Danforth) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murphy -- Myers -- Nault -- Neville -- O'Brien -- (Labrador) -- O'Brien -- (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Owen -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Patry -- Pettigrew -- Pickard -- (Chatham -- Kent Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Price -- Provenzano -- Redman -- Reed -- (Halton) -- Regan -- Richardson -- Robillard -- Saada -- Savoy -- Scherrer -- Scott -- Serré -- Sgro -- Shepherd -- Speller -- St. Denis -- St-Jacques -- St-Julien -- Steckle -- Stewart -- Szabo -- Thibault -- (West Nova) -- Thompson -- (New Brunswick Southwest) -- Tirabassi -- Tonks -- Torsney -- Valeri -- Volpe -- Wappel -- Wayne -- Whelan -- Wood -- 151

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Fournier -- Gagliano -- Gagnon -- (Champlain) -- Peterson -- Proulx -- Tremblay -- (Rimouski-Neigette-et-la Mitis)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 10 of Mr. Nystrom (Regina -- Qu'Appelle), seconded by Mr. Stoffer (Sackville -- Musquodoboit Valley -- Eastern Shore), -- That Bill C-8, in Clause 113, be amended by replacing line 21 on page 72 with the following:

``tail deposit account available to each customer for a monthly fee of 3 dollars and that has the prescribed''

The question was put on Motion No. 10 and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 45)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Fournier -- Gagliano -- Gagnon -- (Champlain) -- Peterson -- Proulx -- Tremblay -- (Rimouski-Neigette-et-la Mitis)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 11 of Mr. Nystrom (Regina -- Qu'Appelle), seconded by Mr. Stoffer (Sackville -- Musquodoboit Valley -- Eastern Shore), -- That Bill C-8, in Clause 125, be amended by replacing line 14 on page 79 with the following:

``on either of those activities. For greater certainty, the closing of the branch can only take place for reasons of financial non-profitability.''

The question was put on Motion No. 11 and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division No. 46)
YEAS: 46, NAYS: 212. (See list under Division No. 45)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 14 of Mr. Harris (Prince George -- Bulkley Valley), seconded by Mr. Epp (Elk Island), -- That Bill C-8, in Clause 314, be amended by replacing lines 32 to 36 on page 478 with the following:

``entity,

(ii) the association is permitted by regulations made under paragraph 396(a) to acquire or increase the substantial investment; or

The question was put on Motion No. 14 and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division No. 47)
YEAS: 116, NAYS: 141. (See list under Division No. 39)

Group No. 3

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 3 of Mr. Loubier (Saint- Hyacinthe -- Bagot), seconded by Ms. Picard (Drummond), -- That Bill C-8 be amended by adding after line 20 on page 28 the following new clause:

``54.1 Subsection 46(2) of the Act is replaced by the following:

(2) The shareholders of a bank shall, by resolution at the meeting of shareholders called pursuant to subsection (1),

The question was put on Motion No. 3 and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division No. 48)
YEAS: 46, NAYS: 212. (See list under Division No. 45)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 4 of Mr. Loubier (Saint- Hyacinthe -- Bagot), seconded by Ms. Picard (Drummond), -- That Bill C-8, in Clause 63, be amended by replacing lines 21 to 33 on page 31 with the following:

``63. Subsection 138(1) of the Act is replaced by the following:

138. (1) Notice of the time and place of a meeting of shareholders of a bank and the complete minutes of the last meeting of shareholders, whether that meeting was an annual or a special meeting, shall be sent not less than twenty- one days or more than fifty days before the meeting,

(1.1) A bank with equity of five billion dollars or more shall set out in the notice of a meeting the number of eligible votes, as defined under subsection 156.09(1), that may be cast at the meeting as of the record date for determining those shareholders entitled to receive the notice of meeting or, if there are to be separate votes of shareholders at the meeting, the number of eligible votes, as defined in that subsection, in respect of each separate vote to be held at the meeting.''

The question was put on Motion No. 4 and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division No. 49)
YEAS: 46, NAYS: 212. (See list under Division No. 45)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 5 of Ms. Picard (Drummond), seconded by Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe -- Bagot), -- That Bill C-8, in Clause 65, be amended by replacing line 6 on page 32 with the following:

``in whose names the shares are registered in the institution's registers and entitled to receive notice of a meeting under''

The question was put on Motion No. 5 and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division No. 50)
YEAS: 46, NAYS: 212. (See list under Division No. 45)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 6 of Mr. Loubier (Saint- Hyacinthe -- Bagot), seconded by Ms. Picard (Drummond), -- That Bill C-8 be amended by adding after line 33 on page 34 the following new clause:

``70.1 Section 160 of the Act is amended by striking out the word "and" at the end of paragraph (h) and by adding the following after paragraph (i):

The question was put on Motion No. 6 and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division No. 51)
YEAS: 46, NAYS: 212. (See list under Division No. 45)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 7 of Mr. Loubier (Saint- Hyacinthe -- Bagot), seconded by Ms. Picard (Drummond), -- That Bill C-8 be amended by adding after line 20 on page 35 the following new clause:

``71.1 The Act is amended by adding the following after section 161:

161.1 (1) The position of chairman shall be separate from the position of chief executive officer and shall not be held by the same person.

(2) For greater certainty, the role of the chairman shall be to ensure that the board of directors assesses the management of the institution, while the role of the chief executive officer shall be to manage the institution's day- to-day activities.''

The question was put on Motion No. 7 and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division No. 52)
YEAS: 46, NAYS: 212. (See list under Division No. 45)

Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance), seconded by Mr. Boudria (Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), moved, -- That Bill C-8, An Act to establish the Financial Consumer Agency of Canada and to amend certain Acts in relation to financial institutions, as amended, be concurred in at report stage.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division.

(Division--Vote N^o 53)

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Members--Députés

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Blaikie -- Comartin -- Desjarlais -- Godin -- Lill -- Martin -- (Winnipeg Centre) -- McDonough -- Nystrom -- Proctor -- Stoffer -- Wasylycia-Leis -- 11

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Fournier -- Gagliano -- Gagnon -- (Champlain) -- Peterson -- Proulx -- Tremblay -- (Rimouski-Neigette-et-la Mitis)

Accordingly, the Bill, as amended, was concurred in at report stage.

Pursuant to Standing Order 45, the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded divisions at report stage of Bill C-4, An Act to establish a foundation to fund sustainable development technology, as reported by the Standing Committee on Aboriginal Affairs, Northern Development and Natural Resources with amendments.

Group No. 1

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 1 of Mr. Cardin (Sherbrooke), seconded by Mr. Roy (Matapédia -- Matane), -- That Bill C-4, in Clause 2, be amended by replacing lines 26 to 29 on page 1 and lines 1 and 2 on page 2 with the following:

The question was put on Motion No. 1 and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 54)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Asselin -- Bachand -- (Saint-Jean) -- Bellehumeur -- Bergeron -- Bigras -- Bourgeois -- Brien -- Cardin -- Crête -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Desrochers -- Dubé -- Duceppe -- Gagnon -- (Québec) -- Gauthier -- Girard-Bujold -- Guay -- Guimond -- Laframboise -- Lalonde -- Lanctôt -- Lebel -- Loubier -- Marceau -- Ménard -- Paquette -- Perron -- Picard -- (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Rocheleau -- Roy -- Sauvageau -- St-Hilaire -- Tremblay -- (Lac-Saint-Jean -- Saguenay) -- Venne -- 35

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Adams -- Alcock -- Anders -- Anderson -- (Cypress Hills -- Grasslands) -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Bachand -- (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bagnell -- Bailey -- Baker -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Benoit -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Binet -- Blaikie -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Boudria -- Breitkreuz -- Brison -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Burton -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Cadman -- Calder -- Cannis -- Carignan -- Carroll -- Casey -- Casson -- Castonguay -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Charbonneau -- Chatters -- Chrétien -- Clark -- Coderre -- Collenette -- Comartin -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Cotler -- Cullen -- Cummins -- Cuzner -- Day -- Desjarlais -- DeVillers -- Dion -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Duhamel -- Duncan -- Duplain -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Elley -- Epp -- Eyking -- Farrah -- Finlay -- Fitzpatrick -- Folco -- Fontana -- Forseth -- Fry -- Gallant -- Godfrey -- Godin -- Goldring -- Goodale -- Gouk -- Graham -- Gray -- (Windsor West) -- Grewal -- Grey -- (Edmonton North) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Hanger -- Harb -- Harris -- Harvard -- Harvey -- Hearn -- Herron -- Hill -- (Macleod) -- Hill -- (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hilstrom -- Hinton -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Jackson -- Jaffer -- Jennings -- Johnston -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Karygiannis -- Keddy -- (South Shore) -- Kenney -- (Calgary Southeast) -- Kilgour -- (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Laliberte -- Lastewka -- LeBlanc -- Lee -- Leung -- Lill -- Longfield -- Lunn -- (Saanich -- Gulf Islands) -- Lunney -- (Nanaimo -- Alberni) -- MacAulay -- MacKay -- (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Macklin -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Manning -- Mark -- Marleau -- Martin -- (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Martin -- (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Martin -- (Winnipeg Centre) -- Matthews -- McCallum -- McCormick -- McDonough -- McGuire -- McKay -- (Scarborough East) -- McLellan -- McNally -- Meredith -- Merrifield -- Mills -- (Red Deer) -- Mills -- (Toronto -- Danforth) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Moore -- Murphy -- Myers -- Nault -- Neville -- Nystrom -- O'Brien -- (Labrador) -- O'Brien -- (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Obhrai -- Owen -- Pagtakhan -- Pankiw -- Paradis -- Patry -- Penson -- Peschisolido -- Pettigrew -- Pickard -- (Chatham -- Kent Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Price -- Proctor -- Provenzano -- Rajotte -- Redman -- Reed -- (Halton) -- Regan -- Reynolds -- Richardson -- Ritz -- Robillard -- Saada -- Savoy -- Scherrer -- Schmidt -- Scott -- Serré -- Sgro -- Shepherd -- Skelton -- Solberg -- Sorenson -- Speller -- St. Denis -- St-Jacques -- St-Julien -- Steckle -- Stewart -- Stinson -- Stoffer -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Thibault -- (West Nova) -- Thompson -- (New Brunswick Southwest) -- Tirabassi -- Toews -- Tonks -- Torsney -- Valeri -- Vellacott -- Volpe -- Wappel -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Wayne -- Whelan -- White -- (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- White -- (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- Wood -- Yelich -- 223

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Fournier -- Gagliano -- Gagnon -- (Champlain) -- Peterson -- Proulx -- Tremblay -- (Rimouski-Neigette-et-la Mitis)

Accordingly, Motion No. 6 was also negatived.

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 10 of Mr. Borotsik (Brandon -- Souris), seconded by Mr. MacKay (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough), -- That Bill C-4, in Clause 30, be amended by replacing lines 41 and 42 on page 16 with the following:

The question was put on Motion No. 10 and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 55)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Bagnell -- Baker -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Binet -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Boudria -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Calder -- Cannis -- Carignan -- Carroll -- Castonguay -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Charbonneau -- Chrétien -- Coderre -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Cotler -- Cullen -- Cuzner -- DeVillers -- Dion -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Duhamel -- Duplain -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Eyking -- Farrah -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Fry -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray -- (Windsor West) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Harvard -- Harvey -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Karygiannis -- Kilgour -- (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Laliberte -- Lastewka -- LeBlanc -- Lee -- Leung -- Longfield -- MacAulay -- Macklin -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marleau -- Martin -- (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Matthews -- McCallum -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKay -- (Scarborough East) -- McLellan -- Mills -- (Toronto -- Danforth) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murphy -- Myers -- Nault -- Neville -- O'Brien -- (Labrador) -- O'Brien -- (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Owen -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Patry -- Pettigrew -- Pickard -- (Chatham -- Kent Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Price -- Provenzano -- Redman -- Reed -- (Halton) -- Regan -- Richardson -- Robillard -- Saada -- Savoy -- Scherrer -- Scott -- Serré -- Sgro -- Shepherd -- Speller -- St. Denis -- St-Jacques -- St-Julien -- Steckle -- Stewart -- Szabo -- Thibault -- (West Nova) -- Tirabassi -- Tonks -- Torsney -- Valeri -- Volpe -- Wappel -- Whelan -- Wood -- 140

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Fournier -- Gagliano -- Gagnon -- (Champlain) -- Peterson -- Proulx -- Tremblay -- (Rimouski-Neigette-et-la Mitis)

Group No. 2

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 3 of Mr. Keddy (South Shore), seconded by Mr. Bachand (Richmond -- Arthabaska), -- That Bill C-4, in Clause 10, be amended by replacing line 22 on page 6 with the following:

``viour for terms that do not exceed five years and that are staggered so that not more than four terms will expire in any year.''

The question was put on Motion No. 3 and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division No. 56)
YEAS: 117, NAYS: 140. (See list under Division No. 55)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 4 of Mr. Keddy (South Shore), seconded by Mr. Bachand (Richmond -- Arthabaska), -- That Bill C-4, in Clause 10, be amended by replacing lines 34 and 35 on page 6 with the following:

``for one term not exceeding five years.''

The question was put on Motion No. 4 and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division No. 57)
YEAS: 117, NAYS: 140. (See list under Division No. 55)

Group No. 3

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 9 of Mr. Chatters (Athabasca), seconded by Mr. Grewal (Surrey Central), -- That Bill C-4 be amended by adding after line 7 on page 16 the following new clause:

The question was put on Motion No. 9 and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division No. 58)
YEAS: 117, NAYS: 140. (See list under Division No. 55)

Mr. Goodale (Minister of Natural Resources), seconded by Mr. Boudria (Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), moved, -- That Bill C-4, An Act to establish a foundation to fund sustainable development technology, as amended, be concurred in at report stage with a further amendment.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 59)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Fournier -- Gagliano -- Gagnon -- (Champlain) -- Peterson -- Proulx -- Tremblay -- (Rimouski-Neigette-et-la Mitis)

Accordingly, the Bill, as amended, was concurred in at report stage with a further amendment.

PRIVATE MEMBERS' BUSINESS

At 6:21 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 30(7), the House proceeded to the consideration of Private Members' Business.

Mr. Grewal (Surrey Central), seconded by Mr. Jaffer (Edmonton -- Strathcona), moved, -- That, in the opinion of this House, the government should ask the Council of Ministers of Education in Canada to perform a feasibility study on the negotiation of a national standardization of education in Canada that may also be applied to recognize foreign academic credentials, degrees, diplomas and professional standing of new immigrants and Canadians in order to enhance the mobility of individuals between provinces and territories and contribute to economic, social and professional progress in Canada. (Private Members' Business M-232)

Debate arose thereon.

Pursuant to Standing Order 96(1), the Order was dropped from the Order Paper.

MESSAGES FROM THE SENATE

Messages were received from the Senate as follows:

-- ORDERED: That a message be sent to the House of Commons to acquaint that House that the Senate has passed Bill C- 20, An Act for granting to Her Majesty certain sums of money for the public service of Canada for the financial year ending March 31, 2001.

-- ORDERED: That a message be sent to the House of Commons to acquaint that House that the Senate has passed Bill C- 21, An Act for granting to Her Majesty certain sums of money for the public service of Canada for the financial year ending March 31, 2002.

-- ORDERED: That a Message be sent to the House of Commons requesting that House to support the contents of the following motion adopted by the Senate on March 22, 2001:

That, in the opinion of the Senate, Mr. Denis Desautels has been an excellent Auditor General of Canada.

Scrupulously honest, professional, fair-minded and a determined investigator, Mr. Desautels carried out his duties as Auditor General efficiently and effectively. During his ten-year term, he not only verified the government's accounts but also was able, thanks to his leadership, to lead a team as professional and dedicated as himself.

The Parliament of Canada thanks Mr. Desautels for his services and recognizes the valuable work he has done for his country.

RETURNS AND REPORTS DEPOSITED WITH THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(1), papers deposited with the Clerk of the House were laid upon the Table as follows:

-- by Mr. Gagliano (Minister of Public Works and Government Services) -- Report of the Royal Canadian Mint, together with the Auditor General's report, for the year 2000, pursuant to the Financial Administration Act, R. S. 1985, c. F-11, sbs. 150(1). -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-371-176- 01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Transport and Government Operations)

-- by Ms. Robillard (President of the Treasury Board) -- Report of the Federal Public Service for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2000, pursuant to the Employment Equity Act, S.C. 1995, c. 44, sbs. 21(1). -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-371-333-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Human Resources Development and the Status of Persons with Disabilities)

-- by Ms. Robillard (President of the Treasury Board) -- Reports for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2000, pursuant to the Employment Equity Act, S.C. 1995, c. 44, sbs. 21(3), as follows:

(1) Atomic Energy Control Board. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560- 371-15-01;

(2) Canadian Forces Personnel Support Agency. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-371-18-01;

(3) Communications Security Establishment. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-371-21-01;

(4) National Energy Board. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-371-22- 01;

(5) National Film Board of Canada. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560- 371-24-01;

(6) National Research Council of Canada. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-371-26-01;

(7) Natural Sciences and Engineering Research Council of Canada. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-371-27-01;

(8) Office of the Auditor General of Canada. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-371-28-01;

(9) Office of the Superintendent of Financial Institutions Canada. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-371-29-01;

(10) Statistical Survey Operations. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560- 371-30-01;

(11) Social Sciences and Humanities Research Council. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-371-234-01;

(12) Canadian Food Inspection Agency. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-371-658-01;

(13) Canada Customs and Revenue Agency. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-371-749-01;

(14) Parks Canada. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-371-750-01.

(Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Human Resources Development and the Status of Persons with Disabilities)

-- by Ms. Robillard (President of the Treasury Board) -- Report of the Canadian Security Intelligence Service for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2000, pursuant to the Employment Equity Act, S.C. 1995, c. 44, sbs. 21(5). -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-371-19-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Human Resources Development and the Status of Persons with Disabilities)

-- by Ms. Robillard (President of the Treasury Board) -- Report of the President of the Treasury Board on Official Languages in Federal Institutions for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2000, pursuant to the Official Languages Act, R.S. 1985, c. 31 (4th Supp.), s. 48. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-371-570-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Human Resources Development and the Status of Persons with Disabilities)

ADJOURNMENT PROCEEDINGS

At 7:20 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 38(1), the question "That this House do now adjourn" was deemed to have been proposed.

After debate, the question was deemed to have been adopted.

Accordingly, at 7:43 p.m., the Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow at 10:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).