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HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA
37th PARLIAMENT, 2nd SESSION
JOURNALS
No. 116
Wednesday, June 11, 2003
2:00 p.m.
Prayers
National Anthem
Statements By Members
Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.
Oral Questions
Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.
Royal Assent
A message was received informing the Commons that on June 11, 2003, at 8:25 a.m., the Honourable Ian Binnie, Puisne Judge of the Supreme Court of Canada, in his capacity as Deputy of the Governor General, signified Royal Assent by written declaration to the following Bills:
Bill C-9, An Act to amend the Canadian Environmental Assessment Act — Chapter No. 9;
Bill C-15, An Act to amend the Lobbyists Registration Act — Chapter No. 10.
Daily Routine Of Business
Tabling of Documents
The Speaker laid upon the Table, — Report of the Privacy Commissioner concerning substantially similar provincial legislation for the year 2003, pursuant to the Personal Information Protection and Electronic Documents Act, S.C. 2000, c. 5, sbs. 25(1). — Sessional Paper No. 8560-372-789-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 108(3)(f)(vi), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Government Operations and Estimates)
Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Easter (Solicitor General of Canada) laid upon the Table, — Document entitled “Annual Report on the Law Enforcement Justification Provisions: Pursuant to Section 25.3 of the Criminal Code 2002”. — Sessional Paper No. 8525-372-24.
Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Dhaliwal (Minister of Natural Resources) and Mr. Anderson (Minister of the Environment) laid upon the Table, — Document entitled “Climate Change: The Federal Investment — 1997-2002 Comprehensive Report”. — Sessional Paper No. 8525-372-25.
Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Owen (Secretary of State (Western Economic Diversification) (Indian Affairs and Northern Development)) laid upon the Table, — Report of the Implementation Committee on the Gwich'in Comprehensive Land Claim Agreement for the fiscal year ending March 31, 2002. — Sessional Paper No. 8525-372-26.
Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Owen (Secretary of State (Western Economic Diversification) (Indian Affairs and Northern Development)) laid upon the Table, — Report of the Inuvialuit Final Agreement Implementation Coordinating Committee for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2002. — Sessional Paper No. 8525-372-27.
Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Owen (Secretary of State (Western Economic Diversification) (Indian Affairs and Northern Development)) laid upon the Table, — Report of the Implementation Committee on the Sahtu Dene and Metis Comprehensive Land Claim Agreement for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2002. — Sessional Paper No. 8525-372-28.
Introduction of Government Bills
Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Thibault (Minister of Fisheries and Oceans) , seconded by Mr. Pagtakhan (Secretary of State (Science, Research and Development)) , Bill C-43, An Act to amend the Fisheries Act, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.
Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Pagtakhan (Secretary of State (Science, Research and Development)) for Mr. McCallum (Minister of National Defence) , seconded by Mr. Boudria (Minister of State and Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) , Bill C-44, An Act to compensate military members injured during service, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.
Recommendation
(Pursuant to Standing Order 79(2))
Her Excellency the Governor General recommends to the House of Commons the appropriation of public revenue under the circumstances, in the manner and for the purposes set out in a measure entitled “An Act to compensate military members injured during service”.
Presenting Reports from Inter-parliamentary Delegations
Pursuant to Standing Order 34(1), Mr. Bélanger (Ottawa—Vanier) presented the Report of the Canadian parliamentary delegation of the Assemblée parlementaire de la Francophonie (APF) respecting its participation at the meeting of the APF Parliamentary Affairs Committee, held in Sofia, Bulgaria, from May 17 to 21, 2003. — Sessional Paper No. 8565-372-52-06.
Presenting Reports from Committees
Mr. Adams (Peterborough) , from the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs, presented the 38th Report of the Committee (Bill C-34, An Act to amend the Parliament of Canada Act (Ethics Commissioner and Senate Ethics Officer) and other Acts in consequence, with an amendment). — Sessional Paper No. 8510-372-101.
A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings (Meetings Nos. 51, 53 and 54) was tabled.
Mr. Scott (Fredericton) , from the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights, presented the Third Report of the Committee (Bill C-32, An Act to amend the Criminal Code and other Acts, with amendments). — Sessional Paper No. 8510-372-102.
A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings (Meetings Nos. 48 and 57) was tabled.
Mr. Scott (Fredericton) , from the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights, presented the Fourth Report of the Committee (Bill C-205, An Act to amend the Statutory Instruments Act (disallowance procedure for regulations), without amendment). — Sessional Paper No. 8510-372-103.
A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings (Meeting No. 58) was tabled.
Mr. Lincoln (Lac-Saint-Louis) , from the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage, presented the Second Report of the Committee, “Our Cultural Sovereignty: The Second Century of Canadian Broadcasting”. — Sessional Paper No. 8510-372-104.
Pursuant to Standing Order 109, the Committee requested that the government table a comprehensive response.
A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings (Meetings Nos. 3 to 12, 22 to 34 and 36 to 38) was tabled.
Introduction of Private Members' Bills
Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Moore (Port Moody—Coquitlam—Port Coquitlam) , seconded by Mr. Chatters (Athabasca) , Bill C-442, An Act to amend the Firearms Act, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.
First Reading of Senate Public Bills
Pursuant to Standing Order 69(2), on motion of Mr. Bélanger (Ottawa—Vanier) , seconded by Mr. Godin (Acadie—Bathurst) , Bill S-5, An Act respecting a National Acadian Day, was read the first time and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.
Motions
By unanimous consent, it was resolved, — That the Second Report of the Standing Committee on Health, presented on Thursday, May 1, 2003, be concurred in.
Presenting Petitions
Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were presented as follows:
— by Mr. Thompson (Wild Rose) , one concerning marriage (No. 372-1760);
— by Mr. Pickard (Chatham—Kent Essex) , one concerning marriage (No. 372-1761);
— by Mr. Guimond (Beauport—Montmorency—Côte-de-Beaupré—Île-d'Orléans) , one concerning national parks (No. 372-1762) and one concerning war on Iraq (No. 372-1763);
— by Mr. Telegdi (Kitchener—Waterloo) , one concerning unborn children (No. 372-1764) and one concerning stem cell research (No. 372-1765);
— by Mr. Blaikie (Winnipeg—Transcona) , one concerning stem cell research (No. 372-1766), one concerning war on Iraq (No. 372-1767) and one concerning marriage (No. 372-1768);
— by Mr. Peric (Cambridge) , one concerning unborn children (No. 372-1769);
— by Mr. Harris (Prince George—Bulkley Valley) , two concerning the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms (Nos. 372-1770 and 372-1771), one concerning pornography (No. 372-1772) and one concerning marriage (No. 372-1773);
— by Mr. Volpe (Eglinton—Lawrence) , one concerning the Food and Drugs Act (No. 372-1774);
— by Mrs. Gallant (Renfrew—Nipissing—Pembroke) , two concerning pornography (Nos. 372-1775 and 372-1776) and two concerning the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms (Nos. 372-1777 and 372-1778);
— by Mr. Maloney (Erie—Lincoln) , one concerning the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms (No. 372-1779);
— by Mr. Stinson (Okanagan—Shuswap) , one concerning marriage (No. 372-1780);
— by Mr. Steckle (Huron—Bruce) , six concerning gun control (Nos. 372-1781 to 372-1786), one concerning pornography (No. 372-1787) and two concerning the agricultural industry (Nos. 372-1788 and 372-1789);
— by Mr. Duncan (Vancouver Island North) , one concerning the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms (No. 372-1790);
— by Mr. Chatters (Athabasca) , one concerning marriage (No. 372-1791);
— by Mr. Shepherd (Durham) , one concerning the Canada Post Corporation (No. 372-1792);
— by Ms. Wasylycia-Leis (Winnipeg North Centre) , one concerning war on Iraq (No. 372-1793), five concerning health care services (Nos. 372-1794 to 372-1798) and four concerning alcoholic beverages (Nos. 372-1799 to 372-1802);
— by Mr. Anders (Calgary West) , two concerning gun control (Nos. 372-1803 and 372-1804);
— by Mr. Abbott (Kootenay—Columbia) , one concerning pornography (No. 372-1805), one concerning war on Iraq (No. 372-1806) and one concerning the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms (No. 372-1807);
— by Mrs. Yelich (Blackstrap) , one concerning national parks (No. 372-1808).
Questions on Order Paper
Mr. Regan (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) presented the answers to questions Q-217 and Q-228 on the Order Paper.
Notices of Motions for the Production of Papers
The Notice of Motion for the Production of Papers P-39 was called pursuant to Standing Order 97(1) and was transferred by the Clerk to “Notices of Motions (Papers)”.
Government Orders
The Order was read for the third reading of Bill C-24, An Act to amend the Canada Elections Act and the Income Tax Act (political financing).
Ms. McLellan (Minister of Health) for Mr. Boudria (Minister of State and Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) , seconded by Mr. Pettigrew (Minister for International Trade) , moved, — That the Bill be now read a third time and do pass.
Debate arose thereon.
Mr. White (North Vancouver) , seconded by Mr. Stinson (Okanagan—Shuswap) , moved the following amendment, — That the motion be amended by deleting all the words after the word “That” and substituting the following:
“Bill C-24, An Act to amend the Canada Elections Act and the Income Tax Act (political financing), be not now read a third time but be referred back to the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs for the purpose of reconsidering Clause 40 with a view to investigating ways in which all taxpayer subsidies for political parties could be completely eliminated.”.
Debate arose thereon.
Motions
By unanimous consent, it was ordered, — That all questions necessary to dispose of the Opposition motion under consideration on Thursday, June 12, 2003, as well as all questions necessary to dispose of the motions to dispose of the Main Estimates, pursuant to Standing Order 81(18), be put at 8:00 p.m. rather than 10:00 p.m. and;
That during debate that day on items in the Main Estimates between 6:30 p.m. and 8:00 p.m., no Member shall speak for more than 10 minutes.
Government Orders
The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Boudria (Minister of State and Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) , seconded by Mr. Pettigrew (Minister for International Trade) , — That Bill C-24, An Act to amend the Canada Elections Act and the Income Tax Act (political financing), be now read a third time and do pass;
And of the amendment of Mr. White (North Vancouver) , seconded by Mr. Stinson (Okanagan—Shuswap) , — That the motion be amended by deleting all the words after the word “That” and substituting the following:
“Bill C-24, An Act to amend the Canada Elections Act and the Income Tax Act (political financing), be not now read a third time but be referred back to the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs for the purpose of reconsidering Clause 40 with a view to investigating ways in which all taxpayer subsidies for political parties could be completely eliminated.”.
The debate continued.
At 5:15 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 78(3), the Speaker interrupted the proceedings.
The question was put on the amendment and it was negatived on the following division:
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YEAS: 62, NAYS: 170
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The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:
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YEAS: 172, NAYS: 62
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Accordingly, the Bill was read the third time and passed.
deferred recorded divisions
Private Members' Business
Pursuant to Standing Order 93(1), the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the motion of Mr. Paquette (Joliette) , seconded by Mr. Bergeron (Verchères—Les-Patriotes) , — That, in the opinion of this House, any free trade agreement entered into by Canada, whether bilateral or multilateral, must include rules for the protection of foreign investments which do not violate the ability of parliamentary and government institutions to act, particularly on behalf of the common good, and must exclude any investor-state redress provisions and consequently, the Canadian government must enter into negotiations with its American and Mexican partners with a view to bringing the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) in line with the aforementioned principles. (Private Members' Business M-391)
The question was put on the motion and it was negatived on the following division:
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YEAS: 56, NAYS: 178
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Pursuant to Standing Order 93(1), the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the motion of Mr. Stinson (Okanagan—Shuswap) , seconded by Mr. Ritz (Battlefords—Lloydminster) , — That Bill C-343, An Act to amend the Citizenship Act, be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Citizenship and Immigration.
The question was put on the motion and it was negatived on the following division:
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YEAS: 99, NAYS: 125
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Motions
By unanimous consent, it was ordered, — That, immediately before Government Orders are called on Thursday, June 12, 2003, the House shall proceed to the consideration at second reading of Bill S-5, An Act respecting a National Acadian Day, and after no more than one representative of each party has spoken for no more than five minutes each, the Bill shall be deemed read a second time, deemed referred to a Committee of the Whole, deemed reported without amendment, deemed concurred in at report stage and deemed read a third time and passed.
Private Members' Business
At 6:25 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 30(7), the House proceeded to the consideration of Private Members' Business.
The House resumed consideration at report stage of Bill C-250, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (hate propaganda), as reported by the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights without amendment;
And of the motions in Group No. 1 (Motions Nos. 1 to 3).
Group No. 1
Motion No. 1 of Mr. Lee (Scarborough—Rouge River) , seconded by Mrs. Barnes (London West) , — That Bill C-250 be amended by adding after line 9 on page 1 the following new clause:
“2. (1) Paragraph 319(3)(b) of the Act is replaced by the following:
(b) if, in good faith, the person expressed or attempted to establish by an argument an opinion on a religious subject or an opinion based on a belief in a religious text;”
Motion No. 2 of Mr. Toews (Provencher) , seconded by Mr. Grewal (Surrey Central) , — That Bill C-250 be amended by adding after line 9 on page 1 the following new clause:
“2. Subsection 319(6) of the the Act is replaced by the following:
(6) No proceeding for an offence under subsection (1) or (2) shall be instituted without the consent of the Attorney General.”
Motion No. 3 of Mr. Toews (Provencher) , seconded by Mr. Grewal (Surrey Central) , — That Bill C-250 be amended by adding after line 9 on page 1 the following new clause:
“3. The definition “hate propaganda” in subsection 320(8) of the Act is replaced by the following:
“hate propaganda” means any writing, sign or visible representation that advocates or promotes genocide or the communication of which by any person would constitute an offence under section 319 and does not include any religious text or part thereof;”
The debate continued on the motions in Group No. 1.
At 7:25 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 98(4), the Speaker interrupted the proceedings.
The question was put on Motion No. 1 and it was agreed to.
The question was put on Motions No. 2 and 3 and, pursuant to Standing Order 98(4), the recorded divisions were deferred until Wednesday, June 18, 2003, at the beginning of the time provided for Private Members' Business.
Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House
Pursuant to Standing Order 32(1), papers deposited with the Clerk of the House were laid upon the Table as follows:
— by Mr. Easter (Solicitor General of Canada) — Agreement for RCMP policing services made on March 28, 2003, between Canada and the town of Sackville, New Brunswick, pursuant to the Royal Canadian Mounted Police Act, R.S. 1985, C. R-10, sbs. 20(5). — Sessional Paper No. 8560-372-475-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights)
— by Mrs. Stewart (Minister of Human Resources Development) — Report of the Canada Pension Plan, together with the Auditor General's Report, for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2002, pursuant to the Canada Pension Plan Act, S.C. 1997, c. 40, s. 97. — Sessional Paper No. 8560-372-59-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Human Resources Development and the Status of Persons with Disabilities)
Petitions Filed with the Clerk of the House
Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were filed as follows:
— by Mr. Adams (Peterborough) , one concerning the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms (No. 372-1809);
— by Mr. St. Denis (Algoma—Manitoulin) , two concerning pornography (Nos. 372-1810 and 372-1811).
Adjournment
At 7:28 p.m., the Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow at 10:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).