HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA
37th PARLIAMENT, 2nd SESSION

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JOURNALS

No. 53

Wednesday, February 5, 2003

2:00 p.m.

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Prayers

National Anthem

Statements By Members

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

Oral Questions

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

Daily Routine Of Business

Tabling of Documents

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Regan (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, — Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to the following petitions:

— Nos. 372-0844 and 372-0845 concerning Kyoto Protocol. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-372-63-01;

— No. 372-0873 concerning employment. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-372-64-01.

Presenting Reports from Inter-parliamentary Delegations

Pursuant to Standing Order 34(1), Mr. Patry (Pierrefonds—Dollard) presented the Report of the Canadian parliamentary delegation of the Assemblée parlementaire de la Francophonie (APF) respecting its participation at the APF Bureau meeting, held in Strasbourg, France, from January 13 to 16, 2003. — Sessional Paper No. 8565-372-52-02.

Presenting Reports from Committees

Mr. Adams (Peterborough) , from the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs, presented the 18th Report of the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs (Electoral boundaries for Newfoundland and Labrador and for Saskatchewan). — Sessional Paper No. 8510-372-33.

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings (Meeting No. 16) was tabled.

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Mr. Adams (Peterborough) , from the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs, presented the 19th Report of the Committee, which was as follows:

The Committee recommends, pursuant to Standing Orders 104 and 114, the following changes to the lists of members of standing committees:

Agriculture and Agri-Food

John Maloney for John O’Reilly

Fisheries and Oceans

Dominic LeBlanc for Paul Steckle

The Committee also recommends, pursuant to Standing Orders 104 and 114, that the names of the following Members be added to the lists of associate members of standing committees:

Agriculture and Agri-Food

Peter Adams

Environment and Sustainable Development

Peter Adams	Clifford Lincoln

Government Operations and Estimates

Liza Frulla

Human Resources Development and the Status of Persons with Disabilities

Peter Adams Anita Neville	Tony Tirabassi Alan Tonks

Procedure and House Affairs

David Price

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings (Meeting No.1) was tabled.

Mr. Wappel (Scarborough Southwest) , from the Standing Committee on Fisheries and Oceans, presented the First Report of the Standing Committee on Fisheries and Oceans (Canadian Coast Guard Marine – Communications and Traffic Services). — Sessional Paper No. 8510-372-34.

Pursuant to Standing Order 109, the Committee requested that the government table a comprehensive response.

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings (Meetings Nos. 8 to 11) was tabled.

Introduction of Private Members' Bills

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Pankiw (Saskatoon—Humboldt) , seconded by Mr. Anders (Calgary West) , Bill C-350, An Act to amend the Canada Labour Code, the Public Service Employment Act and the Public Service Staff Relations Act (trade union membership to be optional), was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Motions

By unanimous consent, it was resolved, — That the 19th Report of the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs, presented earlier today, be concurred in.

Presenting Petitions

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were presented as follows:

— by Mrs. Chamberlain (Guelph—Wellington) , three concerning the Steven Truscott case (Nos. 372-0986 to 372-0988);

— by Mr. Peterson (Willowdale) , one concerning the Steven Truscott case (No. 372-0989);

— by Mr. Anders (Calgary West) , one concerning Tibet (No. 372-0990);

— by Mr. Telegdi (Kitchener—Waterloo) , one concerning the Steven Truscott case (No. 372-0991);

— by Mrs. Wayne (Saint John) , two concerning pornography (Nos. 372-0992 and 372-0993) and one concerning the Employment Insurance program (No. 372-0994);

— by Mrs. Longfield (Whitby—Ajax) , one concerning the Canada Post Corporation (No. 372-0995);

— by Mr. LeBlanc (Beauséjour—Petitcodiac) , one concerning Bangladesh (No. 372-0996);

— by Mrs. Ur (Lambton—Kent—Middlesex) , one concerning the Steven Truscott case (No. 372-0997);

— by Mr. Gallaway (Sarnia—Lambton) , one concerning the Steven Truscott case (No. 372-0998), one concerning stem cell research (No. 372-0999), one concerning aboriginal affairs (No. 372-1000), one concerning children's rights (No. 372-1001) and one concerning pornography (No. 372-1002);

— by Mr. Barnes (Gander—Grand Falls) , four concerning the Steven Truscott case (Nos. 372-1003 to 372-1006);

— by Mr. Steckle (Huron—Bruce) , one concerning the Steven Truscott case (No. 372-1007);

— by Mr. Szabo (Mississauga South) , one concerning stem cell research (No. 372-1008).

Questions on Order Paper

Pursuant to Standing Order 39(7), Mr. Regan (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) presented the return to the following question made into an Order for Return:

Q-85 — Mr. Williams (St. Albert) — For the following categories of items purchased either by Public Works and Government Services Canada for departments, agencies and Crown corporations, or by the individual department, agency or Crown corporation in fiscal years 2000-2001 and 2001-2002, namely, (1) teapots, (2) televisions, (3) briefcases, (4) umbrellas, (5) sewing machines, (6) microwaves, (7) flatware, (8) clothes hangers, (9) wine glasses, (10) cameras, both regular and digital, (11) golf balls, (12) golf tees, (13) beverages, alcoholic, (14) jams, jellies and preserves, (15) land mines, (16) games, toys and wheeled goods, (17) phonograph records, (18) perfumes, toilet preparations and powders: (a) by department, agency or Crown corporation, how many in each category were purchased; and (b) what was the total cost spent by either Public Works and Government Services Canada or another department, agency or Crown corporation on each category? — Sessional Paper No. 8555-372-85.

Notices of Motions for the Production of Papers

It was ordered, — That an Order of this House do issue for copies of the “diving policy” for the dive team at the Coast Guard’s Sea Island Base in place on August 13, 2002 at the time of the tragic loss of life on the fishing vessel, the Cap Rouge II, identified in the statement of October 1, 2002 by the Commissioner of the Coast Guard, entitled “Cap Rouge II Lessons Learned”. (Notice of Motion for the Production of Papers P-14 — Mr. Cummins (Delta—South Richmond) )

Mr. Regan (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) presented the Return to this Order. — Sessional Paper No. 8550-372-14.

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The Notice of Motion for the Production of Papers P-24 was called pursuant to Standing Order 97(1) and was transferred by the Clerk to “Notices of Motions (Papers)”.

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The Notice of Motion for the Production of Papers P-25 was called pursuant to Standing Order 97(1) and was transferred by the Clerk to “Notices of Motions (Papers)”.

Government Orders

The House resumed consideration at report stage of Bill C-13, An Act respecting assisted human reproduction, as reported by the Standing Committee on Health with amendments;

And of the motions in Group No. 5 (Motions Nos. 6, 80 to 86 and 88 to 90).

Group No. 5

Motion No. 6 of Mr. Szabo (Mississauga South) , seconded by Ms. Brown (Oakville) , — That Bill C-13, in Clause 3, be amended by replacing line 31 on page 2 with the following:

“with the applicable law governing consent and that conforms to the provisions of the Human Pluripotent Stem Cell Research Guidelines released by the Canadian Institutes of Health Research in March, 2002, as detailed in the Regulations.”

Motion No. 80 of Mr. Szabo (Mississauga South) , seconded by Ms. Brown (Oakville) , — That Bill C-13, in Clause 40, be amended by replacing line 5 on page 21 with the following:

“proposed research and the Agency has, in accordance with the regulations, received approval from a research ethics board and a peer review.”

Motion No. 81 of Mr. Szabo (Mississauga South) , seconded by Ms. Brown (Oakville) , — That Bill C-13, in Clause 40, be amended by adding after line 5 on page 21 the following:

“(2.1) No person may use an in vitro embryo that was in existence before the coming into force of this Act for the purpose of research unless it conforms to the criteria set out in the Human Pluripotent Stem Cell Research Guidelines released by the Canadian Institutes of Health Research in March, 2002, as specified in the Regulations.”

Motion No. 82 of Mr. Szabo (Mississauga South) , seconded by Ms. Brown (Oakville) , — That Bill C-13, in Clause 40, be amended by adding after line 5 on page 21 the following:

“(2.1) A person who wishes to undertake research involving stem cells from in vitro embryos must provide the Agency with the reasons why embryonic stems cells are to be used instead of stem cells from other sources.”

Motion No. 83 of Mr. Szabo (Mississauga South) , seconded by Ms. Brown (Oakville) , — That Bill C-13, in Clause 40, be amended by adding after line 8 on page 21 the following:

“(3.1) The Agency shall not issue a licence under subsection (1) for embryonic stem cell research if there are an insufficient number of in vitro embryos available for that research.”

Motion No. 84 of Mr. Szabo (Mississauga South) , seconded by Mr. Bailey (Souris—Moose Mountain) , — That Bill C-13, in Clause 40, be amended by adding after line 8 on page 21 the following:

“(3.2) The Agency shall not issue a licence under subsection (1) for embryonic stem cell research unless it has received the written consent of the original gamete providers and the embryo provider in accordance with the Human Pluripotent Stem Cell Research Guidelines released by the Canadian Institutes of Health Research in March, 2002, as specified in the regulations.”

Motion No. 85 of Mr. Szabo (Mississauga South) , seconded by Mr. Hubbard (Miramichi) , — That Bill C-13, in Clause 40, be amended by replacing line 14 on page 21 with the following:

“licensee or any other individual who is qualified to be a licensee under this”

Motion No. 86 of Mr. Szabo (Mississauga South) , seconded by Mr. Hubbard (Miramichi) , — That Bill C-13, in Clause 40, be amended by adding after line 21 on page 21 the following:

“(5.1) Every licence involving deriving stem cell lines from in vitro embryos must include, in the prescribed form, the obligation on the licensee to provide the Agency with samples of the resulting stem cell lines.”

Motion No. 88 of Mr. Szabo (Mississauga South) , seconded by Mr. Hubbard (Miramichi) , — That Bill C-13 be amended by adding after line 27 on page 21 the following new clause:

“40.1 The Agency shall establish, for in vitro fertilization procedures, limits regarding, but not limited to, the following:

(a) the amount of all drug dosages that may be administered;

(b) the number of

(i) ova that may be harvested,

(ii) ova that may be fertilized,

(iii) in vitro embryos that may be implanted at any one time, and

(iv) embryos that may be cryogenically stored for reproductive purposes; and

(c) the length of time that an embryo may be stored.”

Motion No. 89 of Mr. Szabo (Mississauga South) , seconded by Mr. Hubbard (Miramichi) , — That Bill C-13, in Clause 42, be amended by replacing line 31 on page 21 with the following:

“42. The Agency shall, in accordance with”

Motion No. 90 of Mr. Szabo (Mississauga South) , seconded by Mr. Hubbard (Miramichi) , — That Bill C-13, in Clause 42, be amended

(a) by replacing line 31 on page 21 with the following:

“42. (1) The Agency shall, in accordance with”

(b) by adding after line 38 on page 21 the following:

“(2) The amendment, renewal, suspension or revocation under subsection (1) or section 41 may be appealed.”

The debate continued on the motions in Group No. 5.

The attention of the Speaker was drawn to the lack of a quorum and, fewer than 20 Members having been counted, pursuant to Standing Order 29(3), the bells were rung to call in the Members.

After three minutes, a quorum was found.

The House resumed consideration at report stage of Bill C-13, An Act respecting assisted human reproduction, as reported by the Standing Committee on Health with amendments;

And of the motions in Group No. 5 (Motions Nos. 6, 80 to 86 and 88 to 90).

The debate continued on the motions in Group No. 5.

Private Members' Business

At 5:30 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 30(6), the House proceeded to the consideration of Private Members' Business.

The Order was read for the second reading and reference to the Standing Committee on Public Accounts of Bill C-201, An Act respecting the protection of employees in the public service who make allegations in good faith respecting wrongdoing in the public service.

Mr. Grewal (Surrey Central) , seconded by Mr. Epp (Elk Island) , moved, — That the Bill be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Public Accounts.

Debate arose thereon.

Pursuant to Standing Order 96(1), the Order was dropped from the Order Paper.

Adjournment

At 6:30 p.m., the Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow at 10:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).