HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA
37th PARLIAMENT, 2nd SESSION

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JOURNALS

No. 64

Thursday, February 20, 2003

10:00 a.m.

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Prayers

Daily Routine Of Business

Presenting Reports from Committees

Mr. Kilger (Stormont—Dundas—Charlottenburgh) , from the Special Committee on the Modernization and Improvement of the Procedures of the House of Commons, presented the First Report of the Committee (Private Members' Business). — Sessional Paper No. 8510-372-37.

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings (Meeting No. 5) was tabled.

Introduction of Private Members' Bills

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Solberg (Medicine Hat) , seconded by Mr. Epp (Elk Island) , Bill C-397, An Act to amend the Canadian Human Rights Act, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

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Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Wappel (Scarborough Southwest) , seconded by Mr. Peric (Cambridge) , Bill C-398, An Act to amend the Food and Drugs Act (food labelling), was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Motions

By unanimous consent, it was ordered, — That the First Report of the Special Committee on the Modernization and Improvement of the Procedures of the House of Commons, presented earlier today, be concurred in.

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By unanimous consent, it was ordered, — That the question on the amendment to the motion for third reading of Bill C-6, An Act to establish the Canadian Centre for the Independent Resolution of First Nations Specific Claims to provide for the filing, negotiation and resolution of specific claims and to make related amendments to other Acts, be deemed put and a recorded division deemed requested and deferred until Tuesday, February 25, 2003, at the expiry of the time provided for Government Orders.

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By unanimous consent, it was ordered, — That the amendment to the motion for second reading of C-25, An Act to modernize employment and labour relations in the public service and to amend the Financial Administration Act and the Canadian Centre for Management Development Act and to make consequential amendments to other Acts, be deemed withdrawn and that the question on the motion for second reading of the Bill be deemed put and agreed to.

Accordingly, the Bill was read the second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Government Operations and Estimates.

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By unanimous consent, it was ordered, — That the amendments to the motions for second reading of Bill C-19, An Act to provide for real property taxation powers of first nations, to create a First Nations Tax Commission, First Nations Financial Management Board, First Nations Finance Authority and First Nations Statistical Institute and to make consequential amendments to other Acts, and Bill C-22, An Act to amend the Divorce Act, the Family Orders and Agreements Enforcement Assistance Act, the Garnishment, Attachment and Pension Diversion Act and the Judges Act and to amend other Acts in consequence, and the amendment to the motion for third reading of Bill C-3, An Act to amend the Canada Pension Plan and the Canada Pension Plan Investment Board Act, be withdrawn.

Presenting Petitions

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were presented as follows:

— by Mr. Wappel (Scarborough Southwest) , two concerning unborn children (Nos. 372-1137 and 372-1138);

— by Ms. Davies (Vancouver East) , one concerning immigration (No. 372-1139), one concerning pornography (No. 372-1140) and one concerning Chinese Canadians (No. 372-1141);

— by Mr. Peric (Cambridge) , one concerning unborn children (No. 372-1142);

— by Mr. Spencer (Regina—Lumsden—Lake Centre) , one concerning the Divorce Act (No. 372-1143);

— by Mr. St-Julien (Abitibi—Baie-James—Nunavik) , four concerning aboriginal affairs (Nos. 372-1144 to 372-1147);

— by Mr. Doyle (St. John's East) , one concerning pornography (No. 372-1148).

Government Orders

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Manley (Minister of Finance) , seconded by Mr. Bevilacqua (Secretary of State (International Financial Institutions)) , — That Bill C-3, An Act to amend the Canada Pension Plan and the Canada Pension Plan Investment Board Act, be now read a third time and do pass.

The debate continued.

The question was put on the motion and, by unanimous consent, the recorded division was deferred until Tuesday, February 25, 2003, at the expiry of the time provided for Government Orders.

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The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Nault (Minister of Indian Affairs and Northern Development) , seconded by Mr. Easter (Solicitor General of Canada) , — That Bill C-19, An Act to provide for real property taxation powers of first nations, to create a First Nations Tax Commission, First Nations Financial Management Board, First Nations Finance Authority and First Nations Statistical Institute and to make consequential amendments to other Acts, be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Aboriginal Affairs, Northern Development and Natural Resources.

The debate continued.

The question was put on the motion and, by unanimous consent, the recorded division was deferred until Tuesday, February 25, 2003, at the expiry of the time provided for Government Orders.

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The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Cauchon (Minister of Justice) , seconded by Mr. Paradis (Secretary of State (Latin America and Africa) (Francophonie)) , — That Bill C-22, An Act to amend the Divorce Act, the Family Orders and Agreements Enforcement Assistance Act, the Garnishment, Attachment and Pension Diversion Act and the Judges Act and to amend other Acts in consequence, be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights.

The debate continued.

The question was put on the motion and, by unanimous consent, the recorded division was deferred until Tuesday, February 25, 2003, at the expiry of the time provided for Government Orders.

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The Order was read for the consideration at report stage of Bill C-2, An Act to establish a process for assessing the environmental and socio-economic effects of certain activities in Yukon, as reported by the Standing Committee on Aboriginal Affairs, Northern Development and Natural Resources with amendments.

Pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(5), the Speaker selected for debate the following motion:

Motion No. 1.

Mr. Kilgour (Secretary of State (Asia-Pacific)) for Mr. Nault (Minister of Indian Affairs and Northern Development) , seconded by Ms. Whelan (Minister for International Cooperation) , moved Motion No. 1, — That Bill C-2 be amended by deleting subclause 122(2).

Debate arose on motion No. 1

The question was put on Motion No. 1 and, by unanimous consent, the recorded division was further deferred until Tuesday, February 25, 2003, at the expiry of the time provided for Government Orders.

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The Order was read for the consideration at report stage and second reading of Bill C-15, An Act to amend the Lobbyists Registration Act, as reported by the Standing Committee on Industry, Science and Technology without amendment.

Pursuant to Standing Order 76(5), the Speaker selected and grouped for debate the following motions:

Group No. 1 — Motions Nos. 1 to 3.

Group No. 1

Mr. Bryden (Ancaster—Dundas—Flamborough—Aldershot) , seconded by Mr. Harvard (Charleswood—St. James—Assiniboia) , moved Motion No. 1, — That Bill C-15, in Clause 7, be amended by adding after line 26 on page 8 the following:

“(h.3) if any employee named in the return is a former public office holder, a description of the offices held;”

Mr. Bryden (Ancaster—Dundas—Flamborough—Aldershot) , seconded by Mr. Harvard (Charleswood—St. James—Assiniboia) , moved Motion No. 2, — That Bill C-15, in Clause 7, be amended by adding after line 26 on page 8 the following:

“(h.4) if any employee named in the return is a former public office holder, the names of the public office holders with whom the employee intends to communicate;”

Mr. Bryden (Ancaster—Dundas—Flamborough—Aldershot) , seconded by Mr. Harvard (Charleswood—St. James—Assiniboia) , moved Motion No. 3, — That Bill C-15, in Clause 7, be amended by adding after line 40 on page 9 the following:

“(3.1) The definition “employee” in subsection 7(6) of the Act is replaced by the following:

“employee” includes any person who is compensated for the performance of the duties referred to in paragraph (1)(a);”

Debate arose on the motions in Group No. 1.

The question was put on Motion No. 1 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), the recorded division, which also applies to Motion No. 2, was deferred.

The question was put on Motion No. 3 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), the recorded division was deferred.

Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded divisions.

By unanimous consent, the recorded divisions were further deferred until Tuesday, February 25, 2003, at the expiry of the time provided for Government Orders.

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The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Boudria (Minister of State and Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) , seconded by Mr. Collenette (Minister of Transport) , — That Bill C-24, An Act to amend the Canada Elections Act and the Income Tax Act (political financing), be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs;

And of the amendment of Mr. Harper (Calgary Southwest) , seconded by Mr. Reynolds (West Vancouver—Sunshine Coast) , — That the motion be amended by deleting all the words after the word “That” and substituting the following:

“this House decline to give second reading to Bill C-24, An Act to amend the Canada Elections Act and the Income Tax Act, because the Bill shifts the sources of contributions to political parties from the voluntary actions of people and organizations to a mandatory imposition on all taxpayers, making political parties more dependent upon the state and less responsive to society.”;

And of the subamendment of Mr. Epp (Elk Island) , seconded by Mrs. Hinton (Kamloops, Thompson and Highland Valleys) , — That the amendment be amended by adding after the word “state” the following:

“, an increase from approximately 40% to over 70%, ”.

The debate continued.

Statements By Members

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

Oral Questions

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

Government Orders

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Boudria (Minister of State and Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) , seconded by Mr. Collenette (Minister of Transport) , — That Bill C-24, An Act to amend the Canada Elections Act and the Income Tax Act (political financing), be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs;

And of the amendment of Mr. Harper (Calgary Southwest) , seconded by Mr. Reynolds (West Vancouver—Sunshine Coast) , — That the motion be amended by deleting all the words after the word “That” and substituting the following:

“this House decline to give second reading to Bill C-24, An Act to amend the Canada Elections Act and the Income Tax Act, because the Bill shifts the sources of contributions to political parties from the voluntary actions of people and organizations to a mandatory imposition on all taxpayers, making political parties more dependent upon the state and less responsive to society.”;

And of the subamendment of Mr. Epp (Elk Island) , seconded by Mrs. Hinton (Kamloops, Thompson and Highland Valleys) , — That the amendment be amended by adding after the word “state” the following:

“, an increase from approximately 40% to over 70%, ”.

The debate continued.

The question was put on the subamendment and, by unanimous consent, the recorded division was deferred until Tuesday, February 25, 2003, at the expiry of the time provided for Government Orders.

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The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Cauchon (Minister of Justice) , seconded by Mr. Thibault (Minister of Fisheries and Oceans) , — That Bill C-20, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (protection of children and other vulnerable persons) and the Canada Evidence Act, be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights;

And of the amendment of Mr. Epp (Elk Island) , seconded by Mr. Strahl (Fraser Valley) , — That the motion be amended by deleting all the words after the word “That” and substituting the following:

“Bill C-20, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (protection of children and other vulnerable persons) and the Canada Evidence Act, be not now read a second time but that the Order be discharged, the Bill withdrawn, and the subject-matter thereof referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights.”.

The debate continued.

The question was put on the amendment and, by unanimous consent, the recorded division was deferred until Tuesday, February 25, 2003, at the expiry of the time provided for Government Orders.

Private Members' Business

At 5:01 p.m., by unanimous consent, the House proceeded to the consideration of Private Members' Business.

The Order was read for the consideration at report stage of Bill C-227, An Act respecting a national day of remembrance of the Battle of Vimy Ridge, as reported by the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage without amendment.

Mr. St. Denis (Algoma—Manitoulin) , seconded by Mr. Szabo (Mississauga South) , moved, — That the Bill be concurred in at report stage.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to.

Accordingly, the Bill was concurred in at report stage.

Pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(11), Mr. St. Denis (Algoma—Manitoulin) , seconded by Mr. Szabo (Mississauga South) , moved, — That the Bill be now read a third time and do pass.

Debate arose thereon.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to.

Accordingly, the Bill was read the third time and passed.

Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(1), papers deposited with the Clerk of the House were laid upon the Table as follows:

— by Mr. Nault (Minister of Indian Affairs and Northern Development) — Statutes of the Northwest Territories for October 2002, pursuant to the Northwest Territories Act, R. S. 1985, c. N-27, sbs. 21(1). — Sessional Paper No. 8560-372-388-02. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Aboriginal Affairs, Northern Development and Natural Resources)

Adjournment Proceedings

At 5:52 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 38(1), the question “That this House do now adjourn” was deemed to have been proposed.

After debate, the question was deemed to have been adopted.

Accordingly, at 6:13 p.m., the Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow at 10:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).