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Minutes of Proceedings

44th Parliament, 1st Session
Meeting 127
Wednesday, September 18, 2024, 5:35 p.m. to 6:24 p.m.
In Camera
Presiding
Hon. Hedy Fry, Chair (Liberal)

Library of Parliament
• Marion Ménard, Analyst
• Liane Tanguay, Analyst
The committee proceeded to the consideration of matters related to committee business.

It was agreed, — That, notwithstanding the routine motion governing in camera meetings, adopted by the committee on Monday, December 13, 2021, Mario Beaulieu be permitted to remain during the in camera portion of the meeting.

It was agreed, — That the Eighth Report from the Subcommittee on Agenda and Procedure, which read as follows, be concurred in:

Your subcommittee met on Wednesday, September 18, 2024, to consider the business of the committee and agreed to make the following recommendations:
  1. That, in relation to the study of Canada’s anti-racism strategy, the committee invite the Minister of Diversity, Inclusion and Persons with Disabilities to respond to the committee’s invitation to appear before its members no later than Friday, September 20, 2024, and that the chair provide the committee an update regarding the Minister’s response on Monday, September 23, 2024;

  2. That the committee proceed to clause-by-clause consideration of Bill C-354, An Act to amend the Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission Act (Quebec’s cultural distinctiveness and French-speaking communities), followed by the consideration of the draft report in relation to the study of tech giants’ current and ongoing use of intimidation and subversion tactics to evade regulation in Canada and across the world on Monday, September 23, 2024.

  3. That following the consideration of the report on tech giants’ use of intimidation tactics, the committee proceed to the consideration of the draft reports in relation to the study of harms caused to children, women, and men by the ease of access to, and online viewing of, illegal sexually explicit material, and the study of a national forum on the media.

It was agreed, — That, pursuant to Standing Order 108(2), the committee undertake a study of six meetings regarding the protection of freedom of expression and the means the government should have at its disposal to ensure its exercise.

It was agreed, — That the committee proceed to sit in public.

At 5:47 p.m., the meeting was suspended.

At 5:55 p.m., the meeting resumed in public.

A point of order was raised as to the order of debate.

RULING BY THE CHAIR

The Chair ruled that the member no longer had the floor.

Whereupon, Damien C. Kurek appealed the decision of the Chair.

The question: "Shall the decision of the Chair be sustained?" was put and the decision was overturned on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Michael Coteau, Anju Dhillon, Anna Gainey, Patricia Lattanzio, Taleeb Noormohamed — 5;

NAYS: Niki Ashton, Martin Champoux, Jacques Gourde, Jamil Jivani, Damien C. Kurek, Kevin Waugh — 6.

Motion

Damien C. Kurek moved, — That, given that, the CBC/Radio-Canada paid out $18.4 million in bonuses this year, including $3.3 million to top executives, after eliminating hundreds of jobs, the committee immediately invite the President and CEO of the CBC/Radio-Canada, Ms. Catherine Tait, to testify for no less than three hours within 14 calendar days of the adoption of this motion, and the Minister of Canadian Heritage, Pascale St-Onge, to testify for no less than three hours within 14 calendar days of the adoption of this motion, and that these two witnesses appear separately.

Debate arose thereon.

Amendment

Mario Beaulieu moved, — That the motion be amended by deleting the words “, and the Minister of Canadian Heritage, Pascale St-Onge, to testify for no less than 3 hours within 14 calendar days of the adoption of this motion, and that these two witnesses appear separately”.

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Mario Beaulieu and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Niki Ashton, Martin Champoux, Michael Coteau, Anju Dhillon, Anna Gainey, Jacques Gourde, Jamil Jivani, Damien C. Kurek, Patricia Lattanzio, Taleeb Noormohamed, Kevin Waugh — 11;

NAYS: — 0.

The motion, as amended, read as follows:

That, given that, the CBC paid out $18.4 million in bonuses this year, including $3.3 million to top executives, after eliminating hundreds of jobs, the committee immediately invite the President and CEO of the CBC, Ms. Catherine Tait, to testify for no less than three hours within 14 calendar days of the adoption of this motion.

Debate resumed on the motion, as amended.

Amendment

Michael Coteau moved, — That the motion be amended by replacing the words “three hours” with the words “two hours”.

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Michael Coteau and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Martin Champoux, Michael Coteau, Anju Dhillon, Anna Gainey, Patricia Lattanzio, Taleeb Noormohamed — 6;

NAYS: Niki Ashton, Jacques Gourde, Jamil Jivani, Damien C. Kurek, Kevin Waugh — 5.

After debate, the question was put on the motion, as amended, and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Niki Ashton, Martin Champoux, Michael Coteau, Anju Dhillon, Anna Gainey, Jacques Gourde, Jamil Jivani, Damien C. Kurek, Patricia Lattanzio, Taleeb Noormohamed, Kevin Waugh — 11;

NAYS: — 0.

The motion, as amended, read as follows:

That, given that, the CBC/Radio-Canada paid out $18.4 million in bonuses this year, including $3.3 million to top executives, after eliminating hundreds of jobs, the committee immediately invite the President and CEO of the CBC, Ms. Catherine Tait, to testify for no less than two hours within 14 calendar days of the adoption of this motion.

At 6:24 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.



Danielle Widmer
Clerk of the committee