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HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA
35TH PARLIAMENT, 1st SESSION


JOURNALS

No. 119

Wednesday, November 2, 1994

2:00 p.m.



PRAYERS

STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

ORAL QUESTIONS

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

DAILY ROUTINE OF BUSINESS

Tabling of Documents

Pursuant to Standing Order 79(3), the Speaker read a message from His Excellency the Governor General, presented by Mr. Eggleton (President of the Treasury Board).

Message on Estimates

    His Excellency the Governor General transmits to the House of Commons Supplementary Estimates (B) of sums required for the service of Canada for the fiscal year ending on March 31, 1995, and, in accordance with section 54 of the Constitution Act, 1867, recommends these Estimates to the House of Commons.

Accordingly, the document entitled ``Supplementary Esti mates (B), 1994-95'' was laid upon the Table. -- Sessional Paper No. 8520-351-82.


Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) for Mr. Ouellet (Minister of Foreign Affairs) laid upon the Table, -- Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to petitions Nos. 351-0844 and 351-0845 concerning the Law of the Sea Convention. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-351-73.

Motions

Pursuant to Standing Orders 81(5) and (6), Mr. Eggleton (President of the Treasury Board), seconded by Mr. Goodale (Minister of Agriculture and Agri-Food), moved, -- That Supplementary Estimates (B) for the fiscal year ending March 31, 1995, laid upon the Table earlier today, be referred to the several Standing Committees of the House, as follows:

(1) to the Standing Committee on Natural Resources:

-- Natural Resources, Votes 10b, 20b, 30b, 35b and 40b

(2) to the Standing Committee on National Defence and Veterans Affairs:

-- National Defence, Votes 5b, 10b and 20b

(3) to the Standing Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs:

-- Justice, Votes lb, 10b and 30b

(4) to the Standing Committee on Finance:

-- Finance, Votes 2b, L25b and 35b

(5) to the Standing Committee on Public Accounts:

-- Finance, Vote 30b

(6) to the Standing Committee on Environment and Sustainable Development:

-- Environment, Vote l0b

(7) to the Standing Committee on Industry:

-- Atlantic Canada Opportunities Agency, Votes lb and 10b

-- Industry, Votes lb, 2b, l0b, 70b, 75b, 80b, 85b and 90b

-- Western Economic Diversification, Vote 5b

(8) to the Standing Committee on Human Resources Development:

-- Human Resources Development, Votes 5b, l0b, 30b, 35b and 42b

(9) to the Standing Committee on Health:

-- Health, Votes 1b, 5b, l0b and 25b

(10) to the Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs and International Trade:

-- Foreign Affairs, Votes lb, 5b, 10b and 25b

(11) to the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage:

-- Canadian Heritage, Votes 10b, 70b, 75b, 125b and 140b

(12) to the Standing Committee on Government Operations:

-- Privy Council, Vote 1b

-- Parliament, Vote 1b

-- Public Works and Government Services, Votes 20b, 31b and 41b.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to.

Presenting Petitions

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were presented as follows:

-- by Mr. O'Reilly (Victoria -- Haliburton), one concerning gun control (No. 351-1199), one concerning material depicting violence (No. 351-1200), one concerning the Canadian Human Rights Act (No. 351-1201), one concerning abortion (No. 351-1202) and one concerning euthanasia (No. 351-1203);

-- by Mr. Comuzzi (Thunder Bay -- Nipigon), one concerning the Young Offenders Act (No. 351-1204);

-- by Mr. Mayfield (Cariboo -- Chilcotin), one concerning euthanasia (No. 351-1205), one concerning the Canadian Human Rights Act (No. 351-1206) and one concerning abortion (No. 351-1207);

-- by Mr. Taylor (The Battlefords -- Meadow Lake), one concerning euthanasia (No. 351-1208) and one concerning the Canada Post Corporation (No. 351-1209);

-- by Mr. Strahl (Fraser Valley East), two concerning abortion (Nos. 351-1210 and 351-1211) and two concerning the Canadian Human Rights Act (Nos. 351-1212 and 351-1213);

-- by Mr. Szabo (Mississauga South), one concerning euthanasia (No. 351-1214), one concerning the Canadian Human Rights Act (No. 351-1215) and one concerning abortion (No. 351-1216);

-- by Mr. Wappel (Scarborough West), one concerning the Canadian Human Rights Act (No. 351-1217), one concerning abortion (No. 351-1218) and one concerning euthanasia (No. 351-1219);

-- by Mr. Adams (Peterborough), two concerning the imprisonment of Leonard Peltier in the United States (Nos. 351-1220 and 351-1221);

-- by Mr. Calder (Wellington -- Grey -- Dufferin -- Simcoe), one concerning abortion (No. 351-1222), one concerning the Canadian Human Rights Act (No. 351-1223) and one concerning euthanasia (No. 351-1224);

-- by Mr. Solomon (Regina -- Lumsden), one concerning the parole system (No. 351-1225) and one concerning the Senate (No. 351-1226);

-- by Ms. Meredith (Surrey -- White Rock -- South Langley), one concerning euthanasia (No. 351-1227) and one concerning the Canadian Human Rights Act (No. 351-1228).

Questions on Order Paper

Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) presented the answer to question Q-71 on the Order Paper.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The Order was read for the consideration at report stage of Bill C-50, An Act to amend the Canadian Wheat Board Act, as reported by the Standing Committee on Agriculture and Agri-Food with amendments.

Pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(5), the Speaker selected and grouped for debate the following motions:

Group No. 1 -- Motions Nos. 1, 4 and 5.

Group No. 2 -- Motion No. 2.

Group No. 3 -- Motion No. 3.

Group No. 1

Mr. Chrétien (Frontenac), seconded by Mr. Landry (Lotbinière), moved Motion No. 1, -- That Bill C-50, in Clause 2, be amended by adding after line 10, on page 2, the following;

    ``(1.1) The Board shall recommend to the Governor in Council a rate to be fixed for deductions pursuant to subsection (1) after consultation with persons or organizations that in the opinion of the Board represent the holders of certificates and the Governor in Council shall take into consideration the recommendation of the Board in fixing a rate for deductions pursuant to subsection (1).''

Mr. Benoit (Vegreville), seconded by Mr. Thompson (Wild Rose), moved Motion No. 4, -- That Bill C-50, in Clause 2, be amended by replacing lines 43 to 46, on page 3, with the following:

    ``by giving notice in the application for a permit book for the period that no deduction should be made for the period.''

Mr. Althouse (Mackenzie), seconded by Mr. Taylor (The Battlefords -- Meadow Lake), moved Motion No. 5, -- That Bill C-50, in Clause 2, be amended by replacing lines 14 to 19, on page 4, with the following:

    ``33.5 A deduction fixed by the Governor in Council shall apply at the same rate to all holders of certificates in the designated area.''

Debate arose on the motions in Group No. 1.

The question was put on Motion No. 1 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred.

The question was put on Motion No. 4 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred.

The question was put on Motion No. 5 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred.

Group No. 2

Mr. Chrétien (Frontenac), seconded by Mr. Landry (Lotbinière), moved Motion No. 2, -- That Bill C-50, in Clause 2, be amended by adding after line 47, on page 2, the following:

    ``(5.1) The research funding agency shall not distribute moneys received by it pursuant to subsection (3) to persons or plant breeding centres for a research purpose unless the research funding agency, after reasonable inquiries, has determined that the information to be sought by the research is not and is not likely, as a result of other research, to become available to holders of certificates.''

Debate arose on the motion in Group No. 2.

The question was put on Motion No. 2 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred.

Group No. 3

Mr. Benoit (Vegreville), seconded by Mr. Thompson (Wild Rose), moved Motion No. 3, -- That Bill C-50, in Clause 2, be amended by replacing line 39, on page 3, with the following:

    ``period ending on December 31, and the Minister shall lay the report before the House of Commons on any of the first fifteen days on which the House sits following the day the Minister receives the report.''

Debate arose on the motion in Group No. 3.

The question was put on Motion No. 3 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred.

Pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded divisions at report stage of Bill C-50, An Act to amend the Canadian Wheat Board Act.

Pursuant to Standing Order 45(5)(a), the deferred recorded divisions were further deferred until Thursday, November 3, 1994, at 10:00 a.m.

PRIVATE MEMBERS' BUSINESS

At 5:29 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 30(6), the House proceeded to the consideration of Private Members' Business.

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mrs. Venne (Saint-Hubert), seconded by Mr. Dubé (Lévis), -- That Bill C-218, An Act to amend the Unemployment Insurance Act (excepted employment), be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Human Resources Development.

The debate continued.

The question was put on the motion and it was negatived on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 99)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Althouse -- Assad -- Axworthy (Saskatoon -- Clark's Crossing) -- Bachand -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Bellehumeur -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Blaikie -- Bouchard -- Bélair -- Bélisle -- Caccia -- Canuel -- Caron -- Chrétien (Frontenac) -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Daviault -- Debien -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Fillion -- Fry -- Gagnon (Québec) -- Gauthier (Roberval) -- Godin -- Guay -- Ianno -- Jacob -- Laurin -- Lavigne (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- Lebel -- LeBlanc (Cape/Cap Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Leblanc (Longueuil) -- Leroux (Shefford) -- MacLellan (Cape/Cap Breton -- The Sydneys) -- Marchand -- Mercier -- Minna -- Ménard -- Nunez -- Paré -- Picard (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Pomerleau -- Proud -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Solomon -- St-Laurent -- Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Venne -- 53

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Ablonczy -- Adams -- Alcock -- Anderson -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Benoit -- Bernier (Beauce) -- Bertrand -- Bethel -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Boudria -- Bridgman -- Brown (Oakville -- Milton) -- Brushett -- Bryden -- Calder -- Catterall -- Chan -- Chatters -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Collins -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Cowling -- Culbert -- Cummins -- DeVillers -- Duhamel -- Duncan -- Dupuy -- English -- Epp -- Finlay -- Fontana -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Gaffney -- Gagliano -- Gallaway -- Gauthier (Ottawa -- Vanier) -- Gerrard -- Gilmour -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Graham -- Grey (Beaver River) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Hanrahan -- Harb -- Harper (Calgary West) -- Harper (Simcoe Centre) -- Hart -- Harvard -- Hayes -- Hill (Macleod) -- Hopkins -- Iftody -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Johnston -- Jordan -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lincoln -- Loney -- MacLaren (Etobicoke North) -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Marleau -- Massé -- Mayfield -- McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) -- McCormick -- McKinnon -- McLellan (Edmonton Northwest) -- McTeague -- Milliken -- Morrison -- Murphy -- Murray -- O'Brien -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Parrish -- Peters -- Phinney -- Ramsay -- Reed -- Regan -- Richardson -- Ringma -- Ringuette-Maltais -- Robichaud -- Schmidt -- Scott (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Shepherd -- Sheridan -- Silye -- Solberg -- Speller -- Steckle -- Stewart (Brant) -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Thalheimer -- Thompson -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Volpe -- Wappel -- Williams -- Wood -- Young -- Zed -- 126

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Anawak -- Asselin -- Bernier (Gaspé) -- Brien -- Crête -- Deshaies -- Discepola -- Fewchuk -- Flis -- Guimond -- Hubbard -- Lalonde -- Landry -- Langlois -- Lefebvre -- Loubier -- MacAulay -- Manley -- Patry -- Peterson -- Pillitteri -- St. Denis -- Whelan -- de Savoye

PROCEEDINGS ON ADJOURNMENT MOTION

At 6:45 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 38(1), the question ``That this House do now adjourn'' was deemed to have been proposed.

After debate, the question was deemed to have been adopted.

PETITIONS FILED WITH THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, a petition certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions was filed as follows:

-- by Mr. Shepherd (Durham), concerning the official languages of Canada (No. 351-1229).

ADJOURNMENT

At 7:11 p.m., the House adjourned until tomorrow at 10:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).