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HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA
35TH PARLIAMENT, 1st SESSION
JOURNALS
No. 191
Monday, May 1, 1995
11:00 a.m.
PRAYERS
PRIVATE MEMBERS' BUSINESS
At 11:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 30(6), the House proceeded to the consideration of Private Members' Business.
Item No. 1, in the Order of Precedence on the Order Paper, standing in the name of Mr. McTeague (Ontario), was called and, not having been proceeded with, was dropped to the bottom of the Order of Precedence, pursuant to Standing Order 42(2).
INTERRUPTION
At 11:06 a.m., the sitting was suspended.
At 12:00 noon, the sitting resumed.
GOVERNMENT ORDERS
Mr. Gray (Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), seconded by Mr. Massé (President of the Queen's Privy Council for Canada and Minister of Intergovernmental Affairs), moved -- That a Special Joint Committee of the Senate and the House of Commons be appointed to develop a Code of Conduct to guide Senators and Members of the House of Commons in reconciling their official responsibilities with their personal interests, including their dealings with lobbyists;
That seven Members of the Senate and fourteen Members of the House of Commons be the Members of the Committee, and the Members of the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs be appointed to act on behalf of the House as Members of the said Committee;
That changes in the membership, on the part of the House of Commons of the Committee be effective immediately after a notification signed by the member acting as the chief Whip of any recognized party has been filed with the clerk of the Committee;
That the Committee be directed to consult broadly and to review the approaches taken with respect to these issues in Canada and in other jurisdictions with comparable systems of government;
That the Committee have the power to sit during sittings and adjournments of the House;
That the Committee have the power to report from time to time to send for persons, papers and records, and to print such papers and evidence as may be ordered by the Committee;
That the Committee have the power to retain the services of expert, professional, technical and clerical staff;
That a quorum of the Committee be 11 Members whenever a vote, resolution or other decision is taken, so long, as both Houses are represented and that the Joint Chairpersons be authorized to hold meetings, to receive evidence and authorize the printing thereof, whenever six Members are present, so long as both Houses are represented;
That the Committee be empowered to appoint, from among its Members, such sub-committees as may be deemed advisable, and to delegate to such sub-committees, all or any of its power except the power to report to the Senate and House of Commons;
That the Committee be empowered to authorize television and radio broadcasting of any or all of its proceedings;
That the Committee make its final report no later than October 31, 1995;
That, notwithstanding usual practices, if the Senate is not sitting when the final report of the Committee is completed, the report may be deposited with the Clerk of the Senate and it shall thereupon be deemed to have been presented to that House; and
That a Message be sent to the Senate requesting that House to unite with this House for the above purpose, and to select, if the Senate deem advisable, Members to act on the proposed Special Joint Committee. (Government Business No. 24)
Debate arose thereon.
Mr. Bélisle (La Prairie), seconded by Mr. Langlois (Bellechasse), moved the following amendment, -- That the motion be amended
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(a) by deleting, in the first paragraph, the words ``Special Joint'',
``the Senate and'' and ``Senators and'';
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(b) by deleting, in the second paragraph, the words ``seven Members of
the Senate and'';
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(c) by replacing, in the eighth paragraph,
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(i) the number ``11'' with the following:
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``8'';
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(ii) in both occurences, the word ``Houses'' with the following:
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``Opposition parties'';
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(ii) the words ``Joint Chairpersons'' with the following:
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``Chairperson'';
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(d) by deleting, in the ninth paragraph, the words ``Senate and'';
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(e) by deleting the twelfth paragraph;
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(f) by deleting the thirteenth paragraph.
Debate arose thereon.
STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS
Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.
ORAL QUESTIONS
Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.
DAILY ROUTINE OF BUSINESS
Tabling of Documents
Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to petitions Nos. 351-2246, 351-2296 and 351-2413 concerning the income tax system. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-351-24H.
Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government response pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to petition No. 351-2141, concerning the tax system. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-351-56E.
Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to petitions Nos. 351-2215, 351-2310, 351-2317 to 351-2320, 351-2329 to 351-2331, 351-2347, 351-2356 to 351-2360, 351-2369, 351-2389, 351-2390, 351-2422 to 351-2428, 351-2447, 351-2452, 351-2465 to 351-2472, 351-2478, 351-2484, 351-2487 to 351-2491, 351-2525, 351-2526 351-2536, 351-2543 to 351-2545, 351-2576, 351-2577, 351-2585, 351-2586, 351-2604 to 351-2606, 351-2613 to 351-2619, 351-2629, 351-2667 to 351-2670, 351-2672 to 351-2675, 351-2695, 351-2707, 351-2714, 351-2717, 351-2748, 351-2751, 351-2757, 351-2770, 351-2771 and 351-2775 to 351-2779 concerning government spending. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545- 351-100C.
Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government response, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to petition No. 351-2190 concerning the Canada Pension Plan. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-351-116.
Statements by Ministers
Pursuant to Standing Order 33(1), Mr. Chan (Secretary of State (Asia-Pacific)) made a statement.
Presenting Reports from Committees
Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), from the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs, presented the 74th Report of the Committee, which was as follows:
Pursuant to Standing Order 104, the Committee recommends that the following Members be added to the list of Associate Members of Standing Committees:
-- Agriculture and Agri-Food: Hoeppner.
-- Government Operations: White (North Vancouver).
A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings and Evidence (Issue No. 50, which includes this Report) was tabled.
Introduction of Government Bills
Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. MacLaren (Minister for International Trade) for Mr. Ouellet (Minister of Foreign Affairs), seconded by Mr. Young (Minister of Transport), Bill C-87, An Act to implement the Convention on the Prohibition of the Development, Production, Stockpiling and Use of Chemical Weapons and on their Destruction, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.
Recommendation
(Pursuant to Standing Order 79(2))
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His Excellency the Governor General recommends to the House of Commons
the appropriation of public revenue under the circumstances, in the
manner and for the purposes set out in a measure entitled ``An Act to
implement the Convention on the Prohibition of the Development,
Production, Stockpiling and Use of Chemical Weapons and on their
Destruction''.
Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Young (Minister of Transport) for Mr. Manley (Minister of Industry), seconded by Mr. Tobin (Minister of Fisheries and Oceans), Bill C-88, An Act to implement the Agreement on Internal Trade, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.
Recommendation
(Pursuant to Standing Order 79(2))
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His Excellency the Governor General recommends to the House of Commons
the appropriation of public revenue under the circumstances, in the
manner and for the purposes set out in a measure entitled ``An Act to
implement the Agreement on Internal Trade''.
Introduction of Private Members' Bills
Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Forseth (New Westminster -- Burnaby), seconded by Mr. Hermanson (Kindersley -- Lloydminster), Bill C-323, An Act to amend the Bankruptcy and Insolvency Act (order of discharge), was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.
Motions
By unanimous consent, Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), seconded by Mr. Knutson (Elgin -- Norfolk), moved, -- That the 74th Report of the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs, presented earlier today, be concurred in.
The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to.
Presenting Petitions
Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were presented as follows:
-- by Mr. Richardson (Perth -- Wellington -- Waterloo), one concerning the Canadian Human Rights Act (No. 351-2966), two concerning sexual orientation (Nos. 351-2967 and 351-2968) and one concerning intoxication as a defence (No. 351-2969);
-- by Mrs. Brown (Calgary Southeast), one concerning the parole system (No. 351-2970);
-- by Mr. Morrison (Swift Current -- Maple Creek -- Assiniboia), one concerning hormone use in livestock (No. 351-2971);
-- by Mr. Harper (Simcoe Centre), one concerning the official languages of Canada (No. 351-2972), one concerning the definition of family (No. 351-2973), one concerning the Canadian Human Rights Act (No. 351-2974) and one concerning sentences in the Criminal Code (No. 351-2975);
-- by Mr. Gouk (Kootenay West -- Revelstoke), two concerning gun control (Nos. 351-2976 and 351-2977);
-- by Mr. Fewchuk (Selkirk -- Red River), one concerning euthanasia (No. 351-2978);
-- by Mr. Murphy (Annapolis Valley -- Hants), two concerning euthanasia (Nos. 351-2979 and 351-2980) and two concerning the Canadian Human Rights Act (Nos. 351-2981 and 351-2982);
-- by Mr. Knutson (Elgin -- Norfolk), one concerning gun control (No. 351-2983), one concerning the Canadian Human Rights Act (No. 351-2984) and one concerning intoxication as a defence (No. 351-2985);
-- by Mr. Forseth (New Westminster -- Burnaby), one concerning the Canadian Human Rights Act (No. 351-2986).
Questions on Order Paper
Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) presented the answer to question Q-171 on the Order Paper.
GOVERNMENT ORDERS
The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Gray (Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), seconded by Mr. Massé (President of the Queen's Privy Council for Canada and Minister of Intergovernmental Affairs); (Government Business No. 24)
And of the amendment of Mr. Bélisle (La Prairie), seconded by Mr. Langlois (Bellechasse).
The debate continued.
The question was put on the amendment and, pursuant to Standing Order 45(5)(a), the recorded division was deferred until Tuesday, May 2, 1995, at 5:30 p.m.
The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Manley (Minister of Industry), seconded by Mr. Axworthy (Minister of Human Resources Development and Minister of Western Economic Diversification), -- That Bill C-43, An Act to amend the Lobbyists Registration Act and to make related amendments to other Acts, be now read a third time and do pass.
The debate continued.
PROCEEDINGS ON ADJOURNMENT MOTION
At 6:43 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 38(1), the question ``That this House do now adjourn'' was deemed to have been proposed.
After debate, the question was deemed to have been adopted.
RETURNS AND REPORTS DEPOSITED WITH THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE
Pursuant to Standing Order 32(1), a paper deposited with the Clerk of the House was laid upon the Table as follows:
-- by Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance) -- Report on the Actuarial Examination of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (Dependants) Pension Fund as at March 31, 1994, pursuant to section 56(3) of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police Pension Continuation Act, Chapter R-10, Revised Statutes of Canada, 1970. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-351-230A. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Finance)
ADJOURNMENT
At 6:52 p.m., the House adjourned until tomorrow at 10:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).