PRAYERS

STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

ORAL QUESTIONS

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

DAILY ROUTINE OF BUSINESS

Tabling of Documents

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to petitions Nos. 351-2682 to 351-2685, 351-2690, 351-2692, 351-2697 to 351-2699, 351-2701, 351-2705, 351-2708, 351-2710, 351-2713, 351-2718, 351-2723, 351-2727 to 351-2729 and 351-2734 concerning the Canadian Human Rights Act. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-351-3X.

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government response, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to petition No. 351-2709 concerning the Young Offenders Act. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-351-9X.

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government response, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to petition No. 351-1829 concerning the parole system. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-351-10T.

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Government House Leader in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to petitions Nos. 351-2321 to 351-2324, 351-2693, 351-2696 and 351-2716 concerning gun control. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-351-16S.

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government response, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to petition No. 351-2293 concerning the official languages of Canada. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-351-18J.

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to petitions Nos. 351-2511 and 351-2627 concerning the Senate. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-351-19F.

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government response, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to petition No. 351-2731 concerning the income tax system. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-351-24I.

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to petitions Nos. 351-2730, 351-2732, 351-2733 and 351-2736 concerning abortion. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-351-30HH.

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8) to petitions Nos. 351-2088, 351-2254, 351-2556 and 351-2688 concerning the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-351-61C.

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to petitions Nos. 351-2706 and 351-2711 concerning intoxication as a defence. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545- 351-107D.

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to petitions Nos. 351-2686, 351-2687, 351-2694 and 351-2724 concerning sexual orientation. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-351-111D.

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government response, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to petition No. 351-2508 concerning the mistreatment of animals. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-351-120.

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government response, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to petition No. 351-1860 concerning the Department of National Defence. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545- 351-121.

Presenting Reports from Inter-parliamentary Delegations

Pursuant to Standing Order 34(1), Mr. Dumas (Argenteuil -- Papineau), presented the Report of the Canadian Group of the Inter-Parliamentary Union respecting its participation at the 93rd Inter-Parliamentary Conference, held in Madrid, Spain, from March 27 to April 1, 1995. -- Sessional Paper No. 8565-351-60D.

Presenting Reports from Committees

Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), from the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs, presented the 76th Report of the Committee, which was as follows:

In accordance with its mandate under Standing Order 92(1), your Committee has selected from among the items for which an order of precedence was established on or after Wednesday, April 5, 1995, the following as votable items:

Bill S-7 -- Mrs. Stewart

Bill C-316 -- Mr. Peric

Bill C-319 -- Mr. McClelland

Bill C-277 -- Mrs. Gagnon

Motion M-382 -- Mr. Szabo

Motion M-381 -- Mr. Ringma

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings (Issue No. 50, which includes this Report) was tabled.

Pursuant to Standing Order 92(2), the Report was deemed adopted.

Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), from the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs, presented the 77th Report of the Committee (Entries in the Journals). -- Sessional Paper No. 8510-351-101.

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings (Issue No. 50, which includes this Report) was tabled.

Presenting Petitions

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were presented as follows:

-- by Mr. Tremblay (Rosemont), two concerning voice mail (Nos. 351-3094 and 351-3095);

-- by Mr. Hanger (Calgary Northeast), five concerning abortion (Nos. 351-3096 to 351-3100), five concerning euthanasia (Nos. 351-3101 to 351-3105) and five concerning the Canadian Human Rights Act (Nos. 351-3106 to 351-3110);

-- by Mr. Szabo (Mississauga South), one concerning the income tax system (No. 351-3111);

-- by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), three concerning government spending (Nos. 351-3112 to 351-3114) and nine concerning gun control (Nos. 351-3115 to 351-3123);

-- by Mrs. Brown (Calgary Southeast), one concerning the parole system (No. 351-3124);

-- by Mr. White (Fraser Valley West), one concerning euthanasia (No. 351-3125) and two concerning the Canadian Human Rights Act (Nos. 351-3126 and 351-3127);

-- by Mr. Chatters (Athabasca), one concerning government spending (No. 351-3128) and one concerning the Canadian Human Rights Act (No. 351-3129);

-- by Mr. Gouk (Kootenay West -- Revelstoke), two concerning gun control (Nos. 351-3130 and 351-3131) and one concerning government spending (No. 351-3132);

-- by Ms. Bridgman (Surrey North), two concerning the parole system (Nos. 351-3133 and 351-3134) and one concerning gun control (No. 351-3135).

Questions on Order Paper

Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) presented the answers to questions Q-162 and Q-165 on the Order Paper.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The Order was read for the consideration of a Ways and Means motion to amend the Excise Tax Act and the Excise Act (Sessional Paper No. 8570-351-27), notice of which was laid upon the Table on Tuesday, April 25, 1995. (Ways and Means Proceedings No. 27)

Mr. Peters (Secretary of State (International Financial Institutions)), seconded by Mr. Gagliano (Secretary of State (Parliamentary Affairs) and Deputy Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), moved, -- That the motion be concurred in.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 212)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Allmand -- Arseneault -- Assadourian -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Bellemare -- Bevilacqua -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Boudria -- Brown (Oakville -- Milton) -- Brushett -- Bryden -- Bélanger -- Calder -- Campbell -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Clancy -- Collins -- Comuzzi -- Cowling -- Crawford -- Culbert -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Duhamel -- Dupuy -- Easter -- Eggleton -- English -- Fewchuk -- Finestone -- Flis -- Gagliano -- Gagnon (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine) -- Gallaway -- Gerrard -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Graham -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Harper (Churchill) -- Hickey -- Hopkins -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jordan -- Keyes -- Kilger (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Knutson -- Lastewka -- Lavigne (Verdun -- Saint-Paul) -- LeBlanc (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Loney -- MacLaren -- MacLellan (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The Sydneys) -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Marchi -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McCormick -- McKinnon -- McLellan (Edmonton Northwest) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murray -- Nault -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Peric -- Peters -- Peterson -- Phinney -- Pickard (Essex -- Kent) -- Pillitteri -- Proud -- Reed -- Regan -- Rideout -- Ringuette-Maltais -- Robichaud -- Robillard -- Rock -- Rompkey -- Scott (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Serré -- Sheridan -- Simmons -- Skoke -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart (Brant) -- Stewart (Northumberland) -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Verran -- Volpe -- Wappel -- Whelan -- Young -- 119

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Althouse -- Asselin -- Bellehumeur -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Gaspé) -- Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Bridgman -- Brien -- Brown (Calgary Southeast) -- Bélisle -- Canuel -- Chatters -- Daviault -- Debien -- de Savoye -- Deshaies -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Duncan -- Fillion -- Frazer -- Gauthier (Roberval) -- Godin -- Gouk -- Grey (Beaver River) -- Grubel -- Guimond -- Harper (Calgary West) -- Harper (Simcoe Centre) -- Hayes -- Hermanson -- Hill (Macleod) -- Hill (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Jacob -- Johnston -- Lalonde -- Landry -- Lavigne (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- Lefebvre -- Leroux (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Leroux (Shefford) -- Loubier -- Martin (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Mayfield -- Meredith -- Ménard -- Nunez -- Paré -- Picard (Drummond) -- Pomerleau -- Ramsay -- Ringma -- Rocheleau -- Silye -- Solberg -- Stinson -- Taylor -- Thompson -- Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Tremblay (Rosemont) -- Williams -- 64

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Bachand -- Baker -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Bouchard -- Caccia -- Caron -- Chan -- Chrétien (Frontenac) -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Copps -- Crête -- Dalphond-Guiral -- DeVillers -- Dubé -- Finlay -- Gaffney -- Gagnon (Québec) -- Guay -- Harvard -- Hubbard -- Kraft Sloan -- Langlois -- Laurin -- Lebel -- Leblanc (Longueuil) -- Lincoln -- MacAulay -- MacDonald -- Marchand -- O'Brien -- Plamondon -- Sauvageau -- Speller -- St-Laurent -- Tobin

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Eggleton (President of the Treasury Board), seconded by Mr. Anderson (Minister of National Revenue), -- That Bill C-85, An Act to amend the Members of Parliament Retiring Allowances Act and to provide for the continuation of a certain provision, be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs;

And of the motion of Mr. Boudria (Glengarry -- Prescott -- Russell), seconded by Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), -- That this question be now put.

The debate continued.

The attention of the Speaker was drawn to the want of a quorum.

Accordingly, a count of the House was taken and there were fewer than 20 Members present.

At 3:54 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 29(3), the bells were sounded to call in the Members.

At 3:55 p.m., a quorum was found and the Speaker ordered the ringing of the bells stopped.

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Eggleton (President of the Treasury Board), seconded by Mr. Anderson (Minister of National Revenue), -- That Bill C-85, An Act to amend the Members of Parliament Retiring Allowances Act and to provide for the continuation of a certain provision, be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs;

And of the motion of Mr. Boudria (Glengarry -- Prescott -- Russell), seconded by Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), -- That this question be now put.

The debate continued.

The attention of the Speaker was drawn to the want of a quorum.

Accordingly, a count of the House was taken and there were fewer than 20 Members present.

At 4:08 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 29(3), the bells were sounded to call in the Members.

At 4:09 p.m., a quorum was found and the Speaker ordered the ringing of the bells stopped.

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Eggleton (President of the Treasury Board), seconded by Mr. Anderson (Minister of National Revenue), -- That Bill C-85, An Act to amend the Members of Parliament Retiring Allowances Act and to provide for the continuation of a certain provision, be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs;

And of the motion of Mr. Boudria (Glengarry -- Prescott -- Russell), seconded by Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), -- That this question be now put.

The debate continued.

The attention of the Speaker was drawn to the want of a quorum.

Accordingly, a count of the House was taken and there were fewer than 20 Members present.

At 4:37 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 29(3), the bells were sounded to call in the Members.

At 4:38 p.m., a quorum was found and the Speaker ordered the ringing of the bells stopped.

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Eggleton (President of the Treasury Board), seconded by Mr. Anderson (Minister of National Revenue), -- That Bill C-85, An Act to amend the Members of Parliament Retiring Allowances Act and to provide for the continuation of a certain provision, be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs;

And of the motion of Mr. Boudria (Glengarry -- Prescott -- Russell), seconded by Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), -- That this question be now put.

The debate continued.

Mr. Hanger (Calgary Northeast), seconded by Mr. Gouk (Kootenay West -- Revelstoke), moved, -- That the debate be now adjourned.

The question was put on the motion of Mr. Hanger (Calgary Northeast) and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 213)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Bridgman -- Brown (Calgary Southeast) -- Chatters -- Duncan -- Epp -- Frazer -- Gouk -- Grey (Beaver River) -- Grubel -- Hanger -- Harper (Calgary West) -- Harper (Simcoe Centre) -- Hayes -- Hermanson -- Hill (Macleod) -- Hoeppner -- Jennings -- Johnston -- Mayfield -- Meredith -- Morrison -- Ramsay -- Ringma -- Silye -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Thompson -- White (Fraser Valley West) -- Williams -- 32

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Allmand -- Althouse -- Arseneault -- Assad -- Asselin -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Bellehumeur -- Bellemare -- Bergeron -- Bevilacqua -- Bhaduria -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Boudria -- Brien -- Brown (Oakville -- Milton) -- Bryden -- Bélanger -- Bélisle -- Calder -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Clancy -- Collins -- Cowling -- Crawford -- Culbert -- de Jong -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Duhamel -- Dumas -- Dupuy -- Eggleton -- English -- Fewchuk -- Fillion -- Finestone -- Flis -- Gagliano -- Gagnon (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la- -- Gallaway -- Gauthier (Roberval) -- Gerrard -- Madeleine) -- Godfrey -- Godin -- Goodale -- Graham -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Guimond -- Harb -- Harper (Churchill) -- Ianno -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Jacob -- Jordan -- Keyes -- Knutson -- Lalonde -- Landry -- Lastewka -- Lavigne (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- Lavigne (Verdun -- Saint-Paul) -- LeBlanc (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Lee -- Lefebvre -- Leroux (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Leroux (Shefford) -- Loney -- MacLaren -- MacLellan (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The Sydneys) -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McCormick -- McKinnon -- McLellan (Edmonton Northwest) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murray -- Ménard -- Nault -- Nunez -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Peric -- Peters -- Phinney -- Picard (Drummond) -- Pickard (Essex -- Kent) -- Pillitteri -- Proud -- Reed -- Regan -- Rideout -- Ringuette-Maltais -- Robichaud -- Robillard -- Rock -- Rompkey -- Scott (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Serré -- Sheridan -- Skoke -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart (Brant) -- Stewart (Northumberland) -- Szabo -- Taylor -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Torsney -- Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Venne -- Verran -- Volpe -- Wappel -- Whelan -- Zed -- 134

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Bachand -- Baker -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Bouchard -- Caccia -- Caron -- Chan -- Chrétien (Frontenac) -- Chrétien (Saint-Maurice) -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Copps -- Crête -- Dalphond-Guiral -- DeVillers -- Dubé -- Duceppe -- Finlay -- Gaffney -- Gagnon (Québec) -- Guay -- Harvard -- Hubbard -- Kraft Sloan -- Langlois -- Laurin -- Lebel -- Leblanc (Longueuil) -- Lincoln -- MacAulay -- MacDonald -- Marchand -- O'Brien -- Plamondon -- Sauvageau -- Speller -- St-Laurent -- Tobin

PRIVATE MEMBERS' BUSINESS

At 5:31 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 30(6), the House proceeded to the consideration of Private Members' Business.

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Pagtakhan (Winnipeg North), seconded by Mr. Scott (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury), -- That, in the opinion of this House, the government should move with speed to adopt legislative measures aimed at stopping the spread of hate propaganda via the electronic Information Highway while simultaneously preserving legitimate use of the freedom of speech and expression. (Private Members' Business M-384)

The debate continued.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to.

RETURNS AND REPORTS DEPOSITED WITH THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(1), a paper deposited with the Clerk of the House was laid upon the Table as follows:

-- by Mr. Manley (Minister of Industry) -- Report of the Industrial and Regional Development Program for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1995, pursuant to subsection 14(1) of the Industrial and Regional Development Act, Chapter I-8, Revised Statutes of Canada, 1985. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-351-474B. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Industry)

PETITIONS FILED WITH THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, a petition certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions was filed as follows:

-- by Mrs. Chamberlain (Guelph -- Wellington), concerning the Canadian Human Rights Act (No. 351-3136).

ADJOURNMENT

At 6:17 p.m., the Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow at 10:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).