PRAYERS

DAILY ROUTINE OF BUSINESS

TABLING OF DOCUMENTS

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Gagliano (Secretary of State (Parliamentary Affairs) and Deputy Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to the following petitions:

(1) No. 351-3523 concerning alcoholic beverages. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-351-155;

(2) No. 351-3690 concerning sexual assault. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-351-34L;

(3) No. 351-3864 concerning public access to Parliament Hill. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-351-156;

(4) No. 351-3909 concerning the parole system. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-351-10HH;

(5) Nos. 351-3922 and 351-3940 concerning the Young Offenders Act. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-351-9EE;

(6) Nos. 351-3928 and 351-3929 concerning Canada Post Corporation.

-- Sessional Paper No. 8545-351-7P;

(7) Nos. 351-3935, 351-3946 and 351-3947 concerning the Canadian Human Rights Act. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-351-3NN;

(8) No. 351-3937 concerning the tax system. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-351-56I;

(9) No. 351-3941 concerning the Criminal Code of Canada. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-351-142D;

(10) No. 351-3942 concerning the income tax system. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-351-24X;

(11) Nos. 351-3948 to 351-3950 concerning abortion. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-351-30TT;

(12) Nos. 351-3952 to 351-3954 concerning euthanasia. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-351-50HH;

(13) No. 351-3955 concerning the Divorce Act. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-351-5Z.

STATEMENTS BY MINISTERS

Pursuant to Standing Order 33(1), Mr. MacAulay (Secretary of State (Veterans)) made a statement.

INTRODUCTION OF PRIVATE MEMBERS' BILLS

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Breitkreuz (Yellowhead), seconded by Mr. Hill (Prince George -- Peace River), Bill C-360, An Act to amend the Members of Parliament Retiring Allowances Act (deduction re other income), was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Gilmour (Comox -- Alberni), seconded by Mr. Schmidt (Okanagan Centre), Bill C-361, An Act to amend the Access to Information Act (Crown Corporations), was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Hermanson (Kindersley -- Lloydminster), seconded by Mr. Schmidt (Okanagan Centre), Bill C-362, An Act to amend the Parliament of Canada Act and the Canada Elections Act (confidence votes), was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

PRESENTING PETITIONS

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, a petition certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions was presented as follows:

-- by Mr. Szabo (Mississauga South), concerning the income tax system (No. 351-4087).

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The Order was read for the consideration at report stage of Bill C-99, An Act to amend the Small Business Loans Act, as reported by the Standing Committee on Industry with amendments.

Pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(5), the Speaker selected and grouped for debate the following motions:

Group No. 1 -- Motions Nos. 1 and 5.

Group No. 2 -- Motions Nos. 2, 4 and 6.

Group No. 3 -- Motion No. 3.

Group No. 1

Mr. Rocheleau (Trois-Rivières), seconded by Mr. Jacob (Charlesbourg), moved Motion No. 1, -- That Bill C-99, in Clause 1, be amended:

(a) by replacing lines 24 and 25, on page 1, with the following:

``(d) ninety per cent, or such other percentage as is fixed by the committee of the House of Commons that normally considers matters relating to industry, of any loss sus-''; and

(b) by replacing line 1, on page 2, with the following:

``(c) or, where a percentage is fixed by the committee described in this paragraph,''.

Mr. Rocheleau (Trois-Rivières), seconded by Mr. Jacob (Charlesbourg), moved Motion No. 5, -- That Bill C-99 be amended by adding after line 32, on page 4, the following new Clause:

``4.1 The Act is amended by adding the following after section 7:

7.1 The committee of the House of Commons that normally considers matters relating to industry may, for the purposes of paragraph 3(1)(d), fix the percentage of any loss that the Minister is liable to pay.''

Debate arose on the motions in Group No. 1.

The question was put on Motion No. 1 and it was negatived on division.

Accordingly, Motion No. 5 was also negatived on division.

Group No. 2

Mr. Rocheleau (Trois-Rivières), seconded by Mr. Lefebvre (Champlain), moved Motion No. 2, -- That Bill C-99. in Clause 1, be amended by replacing line 25, on page 2, with the following:

``Minister the annual administration fee fixed by the committee of the House of Commons that normally considers matters relating to industry,''.

Mr. Rocheleau (Trois-Rivières), seconded by Mr. Lefebvre (Champlain), moved Motion No. 4, -- That Bill C-99, in Clause 4, be amended by replacing lines 25 to 28, on page 4, with the following:

``paragraph 3(4)(c)(i), the time when the annual administration fee fixed by the committee referred to in section 7.1, is payable;''.

Mr. Rocheleau (Trois-Rivières), seconded by Mr. Lefebvre (Champlain), moved Motion No. 6, -- That Bill C-99 be amended by adding after line 32, on page 4, the following new Clause:

``4.1 The Act is amended by adding the following after section 7:

7.1 The committee of the House of Commons that normally considers matters relating to industry may, for the purposes of sub-paragraph 3(4)(c)(i), fix the annual administration fee or the method of calculating the annual administration fee.''

Debate arose on the motions in Group No. 2.

The question was put on Motion No. 2 and it was negatived on division.

Accordingly, Motions Nos. 4 and 6 were also negatived on division.

Group No. 3

Mr. Rocheleau (Trois-Rivières), seconded by Mr. Lefebvre (Champlain), moved Motion No. 3, -- That Bill C-99, in Clause 4, be amended by replacing line 6, on page 4, with the following:

``ty taken''.

Debate arose on the motion in Group No. 3.

The question was put on Motion No. 3 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred.

Pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division at report stage of Bill C-99, An Act to amend the Small Business Loans Act, as reported by the Standing Committee on Industry with amendments.

Pursuant to Standing Order 45, the deferred recorded division was further deferred until later today, at the expiry of the time provided for Government Orders.

The Order was read for the consideration at report stage of Bill C-107, An Act respecting the establishment of the British Columbia Treaty Commission, as reported by the Standing Committee on Aboriginal Affairs and Northern Development without amendment.

Mr. Gerrard (Secretary of State (Science, Research and Development)) for Mr. Irwin (Minister of Indian Affairs and Northern Development), seconded by Mr. Peters (Secretary of State (International Financial Institutions)), moved, -- That the Bill be concurred in at report stage.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on division.

Accordingly, the Bill was concurred in at report stage.

Pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(11), Mr. Gerrard (Secretary of State (Science, Research and Development)) for Mr. Irwin (Minister of Indian Affairs and Northern Development), seconded by Mr. Peters (Secretary of State (International Financial Institutions)), moved, -- That the Bill be now read a third time and do pass.

Debate arose thereon.

STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

ORAL QUESTIONS

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Irwin (Minister of Indian Affairs and Northern Development), seconded by Mr. Peters (Secretary of State (International Financial Institutions)), -- That Bill C-107, An Act respecting the establishment of the British Columbia Treaty Commission, be now read a third time and do pass.

The debate continued.

The question was put on the motion and, pursuant to Standing Order 45, the recorded division was deferred until later today, at the expiry of the time provided for Government Orders.

The Order was read for the consideration at report stage of Bill C-78, An Act to provide for the establishment and operation of a program to enable certain persons to receive protection in relation to certain inquiries, investigations or prosecutions, as reported by the Standing Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs with amendments.

Pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(5), the Speaker selected and grouped for debate the following motions:

Group No. 1 -- Motion No. 1.

Group No. 2 -- Motion No. 2.

Group No. 1

Mr. Hanger (Calgary Northeast), seconded by Mr. White (Fraser Valley West), moved Motion No. 1, -- That Bill C-78, in Clause 5, be amended:

(a) by replacing line 32, on page 2, with the following:

``5.( 1 ) Subject to this Act, the Commissioner''; and

(b) by adding after line 36, on page 2, the following:

``(2) Any decision made by the Commissioner, or by a member of the Force on behalf of the Commissioner, under section 5, 9, 11 or 14 of this Act may be reviewed by the Minister on application by a law enforcement agency.''

Debate arose on the motion in Group No. 1.

MOTIONS

By unanimous consent, Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), seconded by Mr. Lavigne (Verdun -- Saint Paul), moved, -- That the Standing Committee on Finance be empowered to televise its proceedings the week of November 27, 1995, from the cities of Calgary, Fredericton, Montréal and Vancouver pursuant, to the extent possible, to the principles and practices governing the broadcasting of the House of Commons.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The House resumed consideration at report stage of Bill C-78, An Act to provide for the establishment and operation of a program to enable certain persons to receive protection in relation to certain inquiries, investigations or prosecutions, as reported by the Standing Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs with amendments.

Debate resumed on the motion in Group No. 1.

The question was put on Motion No. 1 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred.

Group No. 2

Mr. Hanger (Calgary Northeast), seconded by Mr. White (Fraser Valley West), moved Motion No. 2, -- That Bill C-78, in Clause 16, be amended by adding after line 17, on page 8, the following:

``(3) Every report prepared under subsection (1) shall, after it is laid before each House of Parliament under subsection (2), be referred to the committee of Parliament that normally considers matters relating to justice and legal affairs.

(4) Every report prepared under subsection (1) shall include, without limiting the generality of the foregoing, the following information:

(a) the number of agreements entered into and the law enforcement agencies involved;

(b) the number of applications made;

(c) the average amount spent on each agreement entered into;

(d) the number of agreements terminated and the reasons for their termination;

(e) the number and types of offences committed by protectees;

(f) the total amount of all money from the Consolidated Revenue Fund spent in relation to the operation of this Act;

(g) co-operative measures between the Force and other law enforcement agencies with respect to witness protection; and

(h) the number of foreign witnesses admitted to Canada and the number of Canadian witnesses relocated outside Canada.''

Debate arose on the motion in Group No. 2.

The question was put on Motion No. 2 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred.

Pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded divisions at report stage of Bill C-78, An Act to provide for the establishment and operation of a program to enable certain persons to receive protection in relation to certain inquiries, investigations or prosecutions, as reported by the Standing Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs with amendments.

Pursuant to Standing Order 45, the deferred recorded divisions were further deferred until later today, at the expiry of the time provided for Government Orders.

The Order was read for the second reading and reference to the Standing Committee on Industry of Bill C-109, An Act to amend the Bankruptcy and Insolvency Act, the Companies' Creditors Arrangement Act and the Income Tax Act.

Mr. Gerrard (Secretary of State (Science, Research and Development)) for Mr. Manley (Minister of Industry), seconded by Mr. MacAulay (Secretary of State (Veterans)), moved, -- That the Bill be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Industry.

Debate arose thereon.

At 5:39 p.m., pursuant to Order made Thursday, November 23, 1995, the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the motion of Mr. Axworthy (Minister of Human Resources Development), seconded by Mr. Gerrard (Secretary of State (Science, Research and Development)), -- That Bill C-96, An Act to establish the Department of Human Resources Development and to amend and repeal certain related Acts, be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Human Resources Development.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 375)

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Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Allmand -- Anawak -- Anderson -- Arseneault -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre/Sud-Centre) -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bernier (Beauce) -- Bertrand -- Bethel -- Bevilacqua -- Bhaduria -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Boudria -- Brown (Oakville -- Milton) -- Bryden -- Bonin -- Calder -- Cannis -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Chrétien (Saint-Maurice) -- Clancy -- Cohen -- Collins -- Copps -- Cowling -- Culbert -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dromisky -- Duhamel -- Dupuy -- Easter -- Eggleton -- English -- Finlay -- Flis -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine) -- Gallaway -- Gerrard -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray (Windsor West/Ouest) -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Harper (Churchill) -- Harvard -- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Jordan -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lavigne (Verdun -- Saint-Paul) -- LeBlanc (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands-Canso) -- Lee -- Lincoln -- Loney -- MacAulay -- Malhi -- Maclaren -- Maclellan (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The Sydneys -- Maheu -- Marleau -- Maloney -- Marchi -- McGuire -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McLellan (Edmonton Northwest/Nord-Ouest) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murphy -- Murray -- O'Brien -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Payne -- Peric -- Peters -- Phinney -- Pickard (Essex -- Kent) -- Proud -- Regan -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Ringuette-Maltais -- Robillard -- Scott (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Simmons -- Speller -- Steckle -- Stewart (Brant) -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Thalheimer -- Torsney -- Vanclief -- Verran -- Volpe -- Wappel -- Wells -- Wood -- Young -- Zed -- 140

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Althouse -- Axworthy (Saskatoon -- Clark's Crossing) -- Bélisle -- Bellehumeur -- Benoit -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Gaspé) -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Blaikie -- Breitkreuz (Yellowhead) (Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Bridgman -- Brown (Calgary Southeast/Sud-Est) -- Caron -- Chrétien (Frontenac) -- Cummins -- Dalphond-Guiral -- de Jong -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Dehaies -- Dubé -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Duncan -- Epp -- Fillion -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Gagnon (Québec) -- Gauthier -- Gilmour -- Gouk -- Grey (Beaver River) -- Guay -- Guimond -- Hanger -- Hanrahan -- Harper (Calgary West/Ouest) -- Harper (Simcoe Centre) -- Harris -- Hart -- Hayes -- Hermanson -- Hill (Macleod) -- Hill (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner) -- Jacob -- Jennings -- Johnston -- Lalonde -- Landry -- Langlois -- Laurin -- Lavigne (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- Lebel -- Leblanc (Longueuil) -- Lefebvre -- Manning -- Marchand -- martin (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Mayfield -- McClelland (Edmonton Southwest/ -- McLaughlin -- Ménard -- Meredith -- Sud-Ouest) -- Mills (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Nunez -- Paré -- Penson -- Picard (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Ramsay -- Ringma -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Schmidt -- Silye -- Solomon -- Speaker -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Taylor -- Thompson -- Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Tremblay (Rosemont) -- Venne -- White (Fraser Valley West/Ouest) -- White (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- 91

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Asselin -- Bachand -- Bouchard -- Brien -- Brushett -- Campbell -- Canuel -- Crête -- Daviault -- Dingwall -- Discepola -- Eggleton -- Fewchuk -- Godin -- Hickey -- Leroux (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Leroux (Shefford) -- Loubier -- Mercier -- Ouellet -- Peterson -- Pilliteri -- Pomerleau -- Rock -- St-Laurent -- St. Denis -- Stewart (Northumberland) -- Walker

Accordingly, the Bill was read the second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Human Resources Development.

Pursuant to Order made Thursday, November 23, 1995, the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the motion of Ms. Copps (Minister of the Environment), seconded by Mr. MacAulay (Secretary of State (Veterans)), -- That Bill C-83, An Act to amend the Auditor General Act, be now read a third time and do pass.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 376)

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Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Allmand -- Anawak -- Anderson -- Arseneault -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre/Sud-Centre) -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bernier (Beauce) -- Bertrand -- Bethel -- Bevilacqua -- Bhaduria -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Boudria -- Brown (Oakville -- Milton) -- Bryden -- Bonin -- Calder -- Cannis -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Chrétien (Saint-Maurice) -- Clancy -- Cohen -- Collins -- Copps -- Cowling -- Culbert -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dromisky -- Duhamel -- Dupuy -- Easter -- Eggleton -- English -- Finlay -- Flis -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine) -- Gallaway -- Gerrard -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray (Windsor West/Ouest) -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Harper (Churchill) -- Harvard -- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Jordan -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lavigne (Verdun -- Saint-Paul) -- LeBlanc (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Lee -- Lincoln -- Loney -- MacAulay -- Malhi -- Maclaren -- Maclellan (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The Sydneys -- Maheu -- Marleau -- Maloney -- Marchi -- McGuire -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McLellan (Edmonton Northwest/Nord-Ouest) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murphy -- Murray -- O'Brien -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Payne -- Peric -- Peters -- Phinney -- Pickard (Essex-Kent) -- Proud -- Regan -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Ringuette-Maltais -- Robillard -- Scott (Fredericton-York-Sunbury) -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Simmons -- Speller -- Steckle -- Stewart (Brant) -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Thalheimer -- Torsney -- Vanclief -- Verran -- Volpe -- Wappel -- Wells -- Wood -- Young -- Zed -- 141

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Althouse -- Axworthy (Saskatoon -- Clark's Crossing) -- Bélisle -- Bellehumeur -- Benoit -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Gaspé) -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Blaikie -- Breitkreuz (Yellowhead) (Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Bridgman -- Brown (Calgary southeast/Sud-Est) -- Caron -- Chrétien (Frontenac) -- Cummins -- Dalphond-Guiral -- de Jong -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Dehaies -- Dubé -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Duncan -- Epp -- Fillion -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Gagnon (Québec) -- Gauthier -- Gilmour -- Gouk -- Grey (Beaver River) -- Guay -- Guimond -- Hanger -- Hanrahan -- Harper (Calgary West/Ouest) -- Harper (Simcoe Centre) -- Harris -- Hart -- Hayes -- Hermanson -- Hill (Macleod) -- Hill (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Jacob -- Jennings -- Johnston -- Lalonde -- Landry -- Langlois -- Laurin -- Lavigne (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- Lebel -- Leblanc (Longueuil) -- Lefebvre -- Manning -- Marchand -- martin (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Mayfield -- McClelland (Edmonton Southwest/Sud-Ouest) -- McLaughlin -- Ménard -- Meredith -- Mills (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Nunez -- Paré -- Penson -- Picard (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Ramsay -- Ringma -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Schmidt -- Silye -- Solomon -- Speaker -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Taylor -- Thompson -- Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Tremblay (Rosemont) -- Venne -- White (Fraser Valley West/Ouest) -- White (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- 91

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Asselin -- Bachand -- Bouchard -- Brien -- Brushett -- Campbell -- Canuel -- Crête -- Daviault -- Dingwall -- Discepola -- Eggleton -- Fewchuk -- Godin -- Hickey -- Leroux (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Leroux (Shefford) -- Loubier -- Mercier -- Ouellet -- Peterson -- Pilliteri -- Pomerleau -- Rock -- St-Laurent -- St. Denis -- Stewart (Northumberland) -- Walker

Accordingly, the Bill was read the third time and passed.

Pursuant to Standing Order 45, the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the motion of Mr. Dingwall (Minister of Public Works and Government Services), seconded by Mr. Dupuy (Minister of Canadian Heritage), -- That Bill C-108, An Act to amend the National Housing Act Bill, be concurred in at report stage.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 377)

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Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Allmand -- Althouse -- Anawak -- Anderson -- Arseneault -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Axworthy (Saskatoon -- Clark's Crossing) -- Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre/Sud-Centre) -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bélisle -- Bellehumeur -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Beauce) -- Bernier (Gaspé) -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Bertrand -- Bethel -- Bevilacqua -- Bhaduria -- Blaikie -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Boudria -- Brown (Oakville -- Milton) -- Bryden -- Caccia -- Calder -- Cannis -- Caron -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Chrétien (Frontenac) -- Chrétien (Saint-Maurice) -- Clancy -- Cohen -- Collins -- Copps -- Cowling -- Culbert -- Dalphond-Guiral -- de Jong -- deSavoye -- Debien -- Dehaies -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dromisky -- Dubé -- Duceppe -- Duhamel -- Dumas -- Dupuy -- Easter -- Eggleton -- English -- Fillion -- Finlay -- Flis -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gaffney -- Gagliano -- Gagnon (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine) -- Gagnon (Québec) -- Gallaway -- Gauthier -- Gerrard -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray (Windsor West/Ouest) -- Guarnieri -- Guay -- Guimond -- Harb -- Harper (Churchill) -- Harvard -- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Jacob -- Jordan -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lalonde -- Landry -- Langlois -- Lastewka -- Laurin -- Laving (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- Lavigne (Verdun -- Saint-Paul) -- Lebel -- Leblanc (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Leblanc (Longueuil) -- Lee -- Lefebvre -- Lincoln -- Loney -- MacAulay -- MacDonald -- Maclaren -- Maclellan (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The Sydneys -- Maheu -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Marchand -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McLaughlin -- McLellan (Edmonton Northwest/Nord-Ouest) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Ménard -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murphy -- Murray -- Nunez -- O'Brien -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Paré -- Parrish -- Patry -- Payne -- Peric -- Peters -- Phinney -- Picard (Drummond) -- Pickard (Essex -- Kent) -- Plamondon -- Proud -- Regan -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Ringuette-Maltais -- Robillard -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Scott (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Simmons -- Solomon -- Speller -- Steckle -- Stewart (Brant) -- Szabo -- Taylor -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Thalheimer -- Torsney -- Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Tremblay (Rosemont) -- Vanclief -- Venne -- Verran -- Volpe -- Wappel -- Wells -- Wood -- Young -- Zed -- 187

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Benoit -- Breitkreuz (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Bridgman -- Brown (Calgary Southeast/Sud-Est) -- Cummins -- Duncan -- Epp -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Gilmour -- Gouk -- Grey (Beaver River) -- Hanger -- Hanrahan -- Harper (Calgary West/Ouest) -- Harper (Simcoe Centre) -- Harris -- Hart -- Hayes -- Hermanson -- Hill (Macleod) -- Hill (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Jennings -- Johnston -- Manning -- Martin (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Mayfield -- McClelland (Edmonton Southwest/Sud-Ouest) -- Meredith -- Mills (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Penson -- Ramsay -- Ringma -- Schmidt -- Silye -- Speaker -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Thompson -- White (Fraser Valley West/Ouest) -- White (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- 45

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Asselin -- Bachand -- Bouchard -- Brien -- Brushett -- Campbell -- Canuel -- Crête -- Daviault -- Dingwall -- Discepola -- Eggleton -- Fewchuk -- Godin -- Hickey -- Leroux (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Leroux (Shefford) -- Loubier -- Mercier -- Ouellet -- Peterson -- Pilliteri -- Pomerleau -- Rock -- St-Laurent -- St. Denis -- Stewart (Northumberland) -- Walker

Accordingly, the Bill was concurred in at report stage and ordered for a third reading at the next sitting of the House.

Pursuant to Standing Order 45, the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the motion of Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance), seconded by Mr. Gagliano (Secretary of State (Parliamentary Affairs) and Deputy Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), -- That Bill C-100, An Act to amend, enact and repeal certain laws relating to financial institutions, be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Finance.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 378)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Allmand -- Anawak -- Anderson -- Arseneault -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre/Sud-Centre) -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bernier (Beauce) -- Bertrand -- Bethel -- Bevilacqua -- Bhaduria -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Boudria -- Brown (Oakville -- Milton) -- Bryden -- Caccia -- Calder -- Cannis -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Chrétien (Saint-Maurice) -- Clancy -- Cohen -- Collins -- Copps -- Cowling -- Culbert -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dromisky -- Duhamel -- Dupuy -- Easter -- Eggleton -- English -- Finlay -- Flis -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gaffney -- Gagliano -- Gagnon (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine) -- Gallaway -- Gerrard -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray (Windsor West/Ouest) -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Harper (Churchill) -- Harvard -- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Jordan -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lavigne (Verdun -- Saint-Paul) -- LeBlanc (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Lee -- Lincoln -- Loney -- MacAulay -- MacDonald -- Maclaren -- Maclellan (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The Sydneys -- Maheu -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McClelland (Edmondon Southwest/Sud-Ouest) -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McLellan (Edmonton Northwest/ Nord-Ouest) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murphy -- Murray -- O'Brien -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Payne -- Peric -- Peters -- Phinney -- Pickard (Essex -- Kent) -- Proud -- Regan -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Ringuette-Maltais -- Robillard -- Scott (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Simmons -- Speller -- Steckle -- Stewart (Brant) -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Thalheimer -- Torsney -- Vanclief -- Verran -- Volpe -- Wappel -- Wells -- Wood -- Young -- Zed -- 142

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Althouse -- Axworthy (Saskatoon -- Clark's Crossing) -- Bélisle -- Bellehumeur -- Benoit -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Gaspé) -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Blaikie -- Breitkreuz (Yellowhead) (Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Bridgman -- Brown (Calgary southeast/Sud-Est) -- Caron -- Chrétien (Frontenac) -- Cummins -- Dalphond-Guiral -- de Jong -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Dehaies -- Dubé -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Duncan -- Epp -- Fillion -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Gagnon (Québec) -- Gauthier -- Gilmour -- Gouk -- Grey (Beaver River) -- Guay -- Guimond -- Hanger -- Hanrahan -- Harper (Calgary West/Ouest) -- Harper (Simcoe Centre) -- Hart -- Hayes -- Hermanson -- Hill (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Jacob -- Jennings -- Johnston -- Lalonde -- Landry -- Langlois -- Laurin -- Lavigne (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- Lebel -- Leblanc (Longueuil) -- Lefebvre -- Manning -- Marchand -- Martin (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Mayfield -- McLaughlin -- Ménard -- Meredith -- Mills (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Nunez -- Paré -- Penson -- Picard (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Ramsay -- Ringma -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Schmidt -- Silye -- Solomon -- Speaker -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Taylor -- Thompson -- Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Tremblay (Rosemont) -- Venne -- White (Fraser Valley West/Ouest) -- Williams -- 87

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Asselin -- Bachand -- Bouchard -- Brien -- Brushett -- Campbell -- Canuel -- Crête -- Daviault -- Dingwall -- Discepola -- Eggleton -- Fewchuk -- Godin -- Hickey -- Leroux (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Leroux (Shefford) -- Loubier -- Mercier -- Ouellet -- Peterson -- Pilliteri -- Pomerleau -- Rock -- St-Laurent -- St. Denis -- Stewart (Northumberland) -- Walker

Accordingly, the Bill was read the second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Finance.

Pursuant to Standing Order 45, the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded divisions at report stage of Bill C-52, An Act to establish the Department of Public Works and Government Services and to amend and repeal certain Acts, as reported by the Standing Committee on Government Operations with amendments.

The House resumed consideration on Motion No. 1 of Mr. Epp (Elk Island), seconded by Mr. Hill (Prince George -- Peace River), -- That Bill C-52, in Clause 7, be amended by adding after line 20, on page 3, the following:

``(a) refrain, where possible, from engaging in activities for or on behalf of any government, body or person in Canada or elsewhere that are in direct competition with private corporations, firms or organizations;

(b) ensure, where possible, that public disclosure of decisions and other information is complete and easily accessible;

(c) ensure that the Queen's Printer for Canada is operated efficiently and competently, maintaining as a priority the effective use of tax dollars;

(d) ensure that the reduction of all costs remains a high priority in the operations of the Department;''.

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the amendment of Mr. Marchand (Québec-Est), seconded by Mr. Asselin -- That Motion No. 1, in paragraphs (a) and (b), be amended by deleting the words,`` where possible,''.

The question was put on the amendment and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 379)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Bélise -- Bellehumeur -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Gaspé) -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Caron -- Chrétien (Frontenac) -- Dalphond-Guiral -- deSavoye -- Debien -- Deshaies -- Dubé -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Fillion -- Gagnon (Québec) -- Guathier -- Guay -- Guimond -- Jacob -- Lalonde -- Landry -- Langlois -- Laurin -- Lavigne (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- Lebel -- Leblanc (Longueuil) -- Lefebvre -- Marchand -- Ménard -- Nunez -- Paré -- Picard (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Tremblay (Rosemont) -- Venne -- 39

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Allmand -- Althouse -- Anawak -- Anderson -- Arseneault -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Axworthy (Saskatoon -- Clark's Crossing) -- Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre/Sud-Centre) -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Benoit -- Bernier (Beauce) -- Bertrand -- Bethel -- Bevilacqua -- Bhaduria -- Blaikie -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Boudria -- Breitkreuz (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Bridgman -- Brown (Calgary Southeast/Sud-Est) -- Brown (Oakville -- Milton) -- Bryden -- Caccia -- Calder -- Cannis -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Chrétien (Saint-Maurice) -- Clancy -- Cohen -- Collins -- Copps -- Cowling -- Culbert -- Cummins -- de Jong -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dromisky -- Duhamel -- Duncan -- Dupuy -- Easter -- Eggleton -- English -- Epp -- Finlay -- Flis -- Fontana -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Fry -- Gaffney -- Gagliano -- Gagnon (Bonaventure -- Îles-de- la-Madeleine) -- Gallaway -- Gerrard -- Gilmour -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Gouk -- Graham -- Gray (Windsor West/Ouest) -- Grey (Beaver River) -- Guarnieri -- Hanger -- Hanrahan -- Harb -- Harper (Calgary West/Ouest) -- Harper (Churchill) -- Harper (Simcoe Centre) -- Hart -- Harvard -- Hayes -- Hermanson -- Hill (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Johnston -- Jordan -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lavigne (Verdun -- Saint-Paul) -- Lebel -- Leblanc (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Lee -- Maclaren -- Maclellan (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The Sydneys) -- Maheu -- Malhi -- Lincoln -- Loney -- MacAulay -- MacDonald -- Maloney -- Manning -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- Mayfield -- McClelland (Edmonton Southwest/Sud-Ouest) -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McLaughlin -- McLellan (Edmonton Northwest/Nord-Ouest) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Meredith -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Mills (Red Deer) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Morrison -- Murphy -- Murray -- O'Brien -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Payne -- Penson -- Peric -- Peters -- Phinney -- Pickard (Essex -- Kent) -- Proud -- Ramsay -- Regan -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Ringma -- Ringuette-Maltais -- Robillard -- Schmidt -- Scott (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Silye -- Simmons -- Solomon -- Speaker -- Speller -- Steckle -- Stewart (Brant) -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Taylor -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Thalheimer -- Thompson -- Torsney -- Vanclief -- Verran -- Volpe -- Wappel -- Wells -- White (Fraser Valley West/Ouest) -- Williams -- Wood -- Young -- Zed -- 190

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Asselin -- Bachand -- Bouchard -- Brien -- Brushett -- Campbell -- Canuel -- Crête -- Daviault -- Dingwall -- Discepola -- Eggleton -- Fewchuk -- Godin -- Hickey -- Leroux (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Leroux (Shefford) -- Loubier -- Mercier -- Ouellet -- Peterson -- Pilliteri -- Pomerleau -- Rock -- St-Laurent -- St. Denis -- Stewart (Northumberland) -- Walker

The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 1 of Mr. Epp (Elk Island), seconded by Mr. Hill (Prince George-Peace River), -- That Bill C-52, in Clause 7, be amended by adding after line 20, on page 3, the following:

``(a) refrain, where possible, from engaging in activities for or on behalf of any government, body or person in Canada or elsewhere that are in direct competition with private corporations, firms or organizations;

(b) ensure, where possible, that public disclosure of decisions and other information is complete and easily accessible;

(c) ensure that the Queen's Printer for Canada is operated efficiently and competently, maintaining as a priority the effective use of tax dollars;

(d) ensure that the reduction of all costs remains a high priority in the operations of the Department;''.

The question was put on the motion and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 380)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Althouse -- Axworthy (Saskatoon -- Clark's Crossing) -- Bélisle -- Bellehumeur -- Benoit -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Gaspé) -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Blaikie -- Breitkreuz (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Bridgman -- Brown (Calgary Southeast/Sud-Est) -- Caron -- Chrétien (Frontenac) -- Cummins -- Dalphond-Guiral -- de Jong -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Deshaies -- Dubé -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Duncan -- Epp -- Fillion -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Gagnon (Québec) -- Gauthier -- Gilmour -- Gouk -- Grey (Beaver River) -- Guay -- Guimond -- Hanger -- Hanrahan -- Harper (Calgary West/Ouest) -- Harper (Simcoe Centre) -- Hart -- Hayes -- Hermanson -- Hill (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Jacob -- Jenning -- Johnson -- Lalonde -- Landry -- Langlois -- Laurin -- Lavigne (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- Lebel -- Leblanc (Longueuil) -- Lefebvre -- Manning -- Marchand -- Martin (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Mayfield -- McClelland (Edmonton Southwest/Sud-Ouest) -- McLaughlin -- Ménard -- Meredith -- Mills (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Nunez -- Paré -- Penson -- Picard (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Ramsay -- Ringma -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Schmidt -- Silye -- Solomon -- Speaker -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Taylor -- Thompson -- Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Tremblay (Rosemont) -- Venne -- White (Fraser Valley West/Ouest) -- Williams -- 88

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Allmand -- Anawak -- Anderson -- Arseneault -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre/Sud-Centre) -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bernier (Beauce) -- Bertrand -- Bethel -- Bevilacqua -- Bhaduria -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Boudria -- Brown (Oakville -- Milton) -- Bryden -- Bonin -- Calder -- Cannis -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Chrétien (Saint-Maurice) -- Clancy -- Cohen -- Collins -- Copps -- Cowling -- Culbert -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dromisky -- Duhamel -- Dupuy -- Easter -- Eggleton -- English -- Finlay -- Flis -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine) -- Gallaway -- Gerrard -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray (Windsor West/Ouest) -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Harper (Churchill) -- Harvard -- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Jordan -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lavigne (Verdun -- Saint-Paul) -- LeBlanc (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Lee -- Lincoln -- Loney -- MacAulay -- Malhi -- Maclaren -- Maclellan (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The Sydneys -- Maheu -- Marleau -- Maloney -- Marchi -- McGuire -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McLellan (Edmonton Northwest/Nord-Ouest) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murphy -- Murray -- O'Brien -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Payne -- Peric -- Peters -- Phinney -- Pickard (Essex -- Kent) -- Proud -- Regan -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Ringuette-Maltais -- Robillard -- Scott (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Simmons -- Speller -- Steckle -- Stewart (Brant) -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Thalheimer -- Torsney -- Vanclief -- Verran -- Volpe -- Wappel -- Wells -- Wood -- Young -- Zed -- 141

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Asselin -- Bachand -- Bouchard -- Brien -- Brushett -- Campbell -- Canuel -- Crête -- Daviault -- Dingwall -- Discepola -- Eggleton -- Fewchuk -- Godin -- Hickey -- Leroux (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Leroux (Shefford) -- Loubier -- Mercier -- Ouellet -- Peterson -- Pilliteri -- Pomerleau -- Rock -- St-Laurent -- St. Denis -- Stewart (Northumberland) -- Walker

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 2 of Mrs. Chamberlain (Guelph -- Wellington), seconded by Mr. Duhamel (Parliamentary Secretary to the President of the Treasury Board), -- That Bill C-52, in Clause 16, be amended by replacing lines 39 to 45, on page 5, and line 1, on page 6, with the following:

``16. The Minister may do any thing for or on behalf of

(a) any department, board or agency of the Government of Canada or Crown corporation, or

(b) with the approval of the Governor in Council, any government, body or person in Canada or elsewhere that requests the Minister to do that thing, where the Minister is authorized to do that thing under this''.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 381)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Allmand -- Althouse -- Anawak -- Anderson -- Arseneault -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Axworthy (Saskatoon -- Clark's Crossing) -- Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre/Sud-Centre) -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bernier (Beauce) -- Bertrand -- Bethel -- Bevilacqua -- Bhaduria -- Blaikie -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Boudria -- Brown (Oakville -- Milton) -- Bryden -- Caccia -- Calder -- Cannis -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Chrétien (Saint-Maurice) -- Clancy -- Cohen -- Collins -- Copps -- Cowling -- Culbert -- de Jong -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dromisky -- Duhamel -- Dupuy -- Easter -- Eggleton -- English -- Finlay -- Flis -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gaffney -- Gagliano -- Gagnon (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine) -- Gallaway -- Gerrard -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray (Windsor West/Ouest) -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Harper (Churchill) -- Harvard -- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Jordan -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lavigne (Verdun -- Saint-Paul) -- LeBlanc (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Lee -- Lincoln -- Loney -- MacAulay -- MacDonald -- Maclaren -- Maclellan (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The Sydneys) -- Maheu -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McLaughlin -- McLellan (Edmonton Northwest/ Nord-Ouest) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murphy -- Murray -- O'Brien -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Payne -- Peric -- Peters -- Phinney -- Pickard (Essex -- Kent) -- Proud -- Regan -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Ringuette-Maltais -- Robillard -- Scott (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Simmons -- Solomon -- Speller -- Steckle -- Stewart (Brant) -- Szabo -- Taylor -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Thalheimer -- Torsney -- Vanclief -- Verran -- Volpe -- Wappel -- Wells -- Wood -- Young -- Zed -- 148

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Bélisle -- Bellehumeur -- Benoit -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Gaspé) -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Breitkreuz (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Bridgman -- Brown (Calgary southeast/Sud-Est) -- Caron -- Chrétien (Frontenac) -- Cummins -- Dalphond-Guiral -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Deshaies -- Dubé -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Duncan -- Epp -- Fillion -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Gagnon (Québec) -- Gauthier -- Gilmour -- Gouk -- Grey (Beaver River) -- Guay -- Guimond -- Hanger -- Hanrahan -- Harper (Calgary West/Ouest) -- Harper (Simcoe Centre) -- Hart -- Hayes -- Hermanson -- Johnston -- Lalonde -- Landry -- Langlois -- Laurin -- Lavigne (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- Lebel -- Leblanc (Longueuil) -- Lefebvre -- Manning -- Marchand -- Martin (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Mayfield -- McClelland (Edmonton Southwest/Sud-Ouest) -- Ménard -- Meredith -- Mills (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Nunez -- Paré -- Penson -- Picard (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Ramsay -- Ringma -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Schmidt -- Silye -- Speaker -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Taylor -- Thompson -- Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Tremblay (Rosemont) -- Venne -- White (Fraser Valley West/Ouest) -- Williams -- 81

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Asselin -- Bachand -- Bouchard -- Brien -- Brushett -- Campbell -- Canuel -- Crête -- Daviault -- Dingwall -- Discepola -- Eggleton -- Fewchuk -- Godin -- Hickey -- Leroux (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Leroux (Shefford) -- Loubier -- Mercier -- Ouellet -- Peterson -- Pilliteri -- Pomerleau -- Rock -- St-Laurent -- St. Denis -- Stewart (Northumberland) -- Walker

Accordingly, the question was not put on Motion No. 3.

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 4 of Mr. Marchand (Québec-Est), seconded by Mr. de Savoye (Portneuf), -- That Bill C-52, in Clause 17, be amended:

(a) by replacing line 5, on page 6, with the following:

``17. (1) The Minister may, subject to any regu-''; and

(b) by adding after line 16, on page 6, the following:

``(2) Before any fees or charges are fixed under subsection (1) or increased, the Minister shall cause to be published in the Canada Gazette and in no fewer than two leading newspapers in each province a notice clearly indicating

(a) the products, services, rights, privileges, regulatory processes, approvals or use of facilities provided under subsection (1); and

(b) the fees or charges that have been fixed or increased pursuant to paragraph (1)(a).''

The question was put on the motion and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 88, NAYS: 141. (See list under Division No. 380)

The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 6 of Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), seconded by Mr. Bélair (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Public Works and Government Services),

-- That Bill C-52, in Clause 17, be amended by replacing lines 5 to 16, on page 6, with the following:

``17. The Minister may, subject to any regulations that the Treasury Board may make for the purposes of this section, charge for services provided by the Department pursuant to this Act or any other Act in force at the time this section comes into force.''

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 382)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Allmand -- Anawak -- Anderson -- Arseneault -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre/Sud-Centre) -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bernier (Beauce) -- Bertrand -- Bethel -- Bevilacqua -- Bhaduria -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Boudria -- Brown (Oakville -- Milton) -- Bryden -- Bonin -- Calder -- Cannis -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Chrétien (Saint-Maurice) -- Clancy -- Cohen -- Collins -- Copps -- Cowling -- Culbert -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dromisky -- Duhamel -- Dupuy -- Easter -- Eggleton -- English -- Finlay -- Flis -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine) -- Gallaway -- Gerrard -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray (Windsor West/Ouest) -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Harper (Churchill) -- Harvard -- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Jordan -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lavigne (Verdun -- Saint-Paul) -- LeBlanc (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Lee -- Lincoln -- Loney -- MacAulay -- Malhi -- Maclaren -- Maclellan (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The Sydneys -- Maheu -- Marleau -- Maloney -- Marchi -- McGuire -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McLellan (Edmonton Northwest/Nord-Ouest) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murphy -- Murray -- O'Brien -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Payne -- Peric -- Peters -- Phinney -- Pickard (Essex -- Kent) -- Proud -- Regan -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Ringuette-Maltais -- Robillard -- Scott (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Simmons -- Speller -- Steckle -- Stewart (Brant) -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Thalheimer -- Torsney -- Vanclief -- Verran -- Volpe -- Wappel -- Wells -- Wood -- Young -- Zed -- 141

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Althouse -- Axworthy (Saskatoon -- Clark's Crossing) -- Bélisle -- Benoit -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Gaspé) -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton-Stanstead) -- Blaikie -- Breitkreuz (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Bridgman -- Brown (Calgary southeast/Sud-Est) -- Caron -- Chrétien (Frontenac) -- Cummins -- Dalphond-Guiral -- de Jong -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Deshaies -- Dubé -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Duncan -- Epp -- Fillion -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Gagnon (Québec) -- Gauthier -- Gilmour -- Gouk -- Grey (Beaver River) -- Guay -- Guimond -- Hanger -- Hanrahan -- Harper (Calgary West/Ouest) -- Harper (Simcoe Centre) -- Hart -- Hayes -- Hermanson -- Hill (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Jacob -- Jennings -- Johnston -- Lalonde -- Landry -- Leblanc (Longueuil) -- Lefebvre -- Manning -- Marchand -- Martin (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Mayfield -- McClelland (Edmonton Southwest/Sud-Ouest) -- McLaughlin -- Ménard -- Meredith -- Mills (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Nunez -- Paré -- Penson -- Picard (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Ramsay -- Ringma -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Schmidt -- Silye -- Solomon -- Speaker -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Taylor -- Thompson -- Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Tremblay (Rosemont) -- Venne -- White (Fraser Valley West/Ouest) -- Williams -- 88

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Asselin -- Bachand -- Bouchard -- Brien -- Brushett -- Campbell -- Canuel -- Crête -- Daviault -- Dingwall -- Discepola -- Eggleton -- Fewchuk -- Godin -- Hickey -- Leroux (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Leroux (Shefford) -- Loubier -- Mercier -- Ouellet -- Peterson -- Pilliteri -- Pomerleau -- Rock -- St-Laurent -- St. Denis -- Stewart (Northumberland) -- Walker

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 8 of Mr. Marchand (Québec-Est), seconded by Mr. de Savoye (Portneuf), -- That Bill C-52, in Clause 20, be amended:

(a) by replacing line 38, on page 6, with the following:

``20. (1) Subject to any regulations that; and''; and

(b) by adding after line 4, on page 7, the following:

``(2) Within the first five days of every month or, if the House of Commons is not then sitting, within the first three days next thereafter that the House is sitting, the Minister shall cause to be laid before the House copies of all contracts entered into under subsection (1) since copies of contracts entered into under subsection (1) were last laid before the House.

(3) The copies of contracts laid before the House of Commons pursuant to subsection (2) shall stand permanently referred to the committee established to consider matters relating to government operations.''

The question was put on the motion and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 383)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Althouse -- Axworthy (Saskatoon -- Clark's Crossing) -- Bélisle -- Bellehumeur -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Gaspé) -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Blaikie -- Caron -- Chrétien (Frontenac) -- Dalphone-Guiral -- de Jong -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Deshaies -- Dubé -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Fillion -- Gagnon (Québec) -- Gauthier -- Guay -- Guimond -- Jacob -- Lalonde -- Landry -- Langlois -- Laurin -- Lavigne (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- Lebel -- Leblanc (Longueuil) -- Lefebvre -- Marchand -- McLauglin -- Ménard -- Nunez -- Paré -- Picard (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Solomon -- Taylor -- Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Tremblay (Rosemont) -- Venne -- 46

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Allmand -- Anawak -- Anderson -- Arseneault -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre/Sud-Centre) -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Benoit -- Bernier (Beauce) -- Bertrand -- Bethel -- Bevilacqua -- Bhaduria -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Boudria -- Breitkreuz (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Bridgman -- Brown (Calgary Southeast/Sud-Est) -- Brown (Oakville -- Milton) -- Bryden -- Caccia -- Calder -- Cannis -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Chrétien (Saint-Maurice) -- Clancy -- Cohen -- Collins -- Copps -- Cowling -- Culbert -- Cummins -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dromisky -- Duhamel -- Duncan -- Dupuy -- Easter -- Eggleton -- English -- Epp -- Finlay -- Flis -- Fontana -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Fry -- Gaffney -- Gagliano -- Gagnon (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine) -- Gallaway -- Gerrard -- Gilmour -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Gouk -- Graham -- Gray (Windsor West/Ouest) -- Grey (Beaver River) -- Guarnieri -- Hanger -- Hanrahan -- Harb -- Harper (Calgary West/Ouest) -- Harper (Churchill) -- Harper (Simcoe Centre) -- Hart -- Harvard -- Hayes -- Hermanson -- Hill (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Johnston -- Jordan -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lavigne (Verdun -- Saint-Paul) -- Lebel -- Leblanc (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Lee -- Lincoln -- Loney -- MacAulay -- MacDonald -- Maclaren -- Maclellan (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The Sydneys) -- Maheu -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manning -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- Mayfield -- McClelland (Edmonton Southwest/Sud-Ouest) -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McLellan (Edmonton Northwest/Nord-Ouest) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Meredith -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Mills (Red Deer) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Morrison -- Murphy -- Murray -- O'Brien -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Payne -- Penson -- Peric -- Peters -- Phinney -- Pickard (Essex -- Kent) -- Proud -- Ramsay -- Regan -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Ringma -- Ringuette-Maltais -- Robillard -- Schmidt -- Scott (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Silye -- Simmons -- Speaker -- Speller -- Steckle -- Stewart (Brant) -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Thalheimer -- Thompson -- Torsney -- Vanclief -- Verran -- Volpe -- Wappel -- Wells -- White (Fraser Valley West/Ouest) -- Williams -- Wood -- Young -- Zed -- 183

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Asselin -- Bachand -- Bouchard -- Brien -- Brushett -- Campbell -- Canuel -- Crête -- Daviault -- Dingwall -- Discepola -- Eggleton -- Fewchuk -- Godin -- Hickey -- Leroux (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Leroux (Shefford) -- Loubier -- Mercier -- Ouellet -- Peterson -- Pilliteri -- Pomerleau -- Rock -- St-Laurent -- St. Denis -- Stewart (Northumberland) -- Walker

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 9 of Mr. Marchand (Qu6bec-Est), seconded by Mr. de Savoye (Portneuf), -- That Bill C-52, in Clause 20, be amended:

(a) by replacing line 38, on page 6, with the following:

``20. (1) Subject to any regulations that; and''; and

(b) by adding after line 4, on page 7, the following:

``(2) Within the first five days of every month, the Minister shall cause to be sent to every member of the House of Commons a list of the contracts entered into under subsection (1) in the preceding month that relate to a corporation or a firm

(a) having a place of business in the member's constituency; or

(b) providing products or services pursuant to the contract in the member's constituency.''

The question was put on the motion and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 46, NAYS: 183. (See list under Division No. 383)

Mr. Anderson (Minister of National Revenue) for Mr. Dingwall (Minister of Public Works and Government Services), seconded by Ms. Marleau (Minister of Health), moved, -- That Bill C-52, An Act to establish the Department of Public Works and Government Services and to amend and repeal certain Acts, as amended, be concurred in at report stage with further amendments.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:

YEAS: 141, NAYS: 88. (See list under Division No. 382)

Accordingly, the Bill, as amended, was concurred in at report stage with further amendments and ordered for a third reading at the next sitting of the House.

Pursuant to Standing Order 45, the House resumed consideration of the motion of Ms. Copps (Minister of the Environment), seconded by Mr. Anderson (Minister of National Revenue), -- That Bill C-94, An Act to regulate interprovincial trade in and the importation for commercial purposes of certain manganese-based substances, be now read a third time and do pass.

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred division on the amendment of Mr. Sauvageau (Terrebonne), seconded by Mrs. Guay (Laurentides), -- That the motion be amended by deleting all the words after the word ``That'' and substitutincy the following:

``Bill C-94. An Act to regulate interprovincial trade in and the importation for commercial purposes of certain manganese-based substances, be not now read a third time but that it be read a third time this day six months hence.''

The question was put on the amendment and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 384)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Bélisle -- Bellehumeur -- Benoit -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Gaspé) -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Breitkreuz (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Bridgman -- Brown (Calgary Southeast/Sud-Est) -- Caron -- Chrétien (Frontenac) -- Cummins -- Dalphond-Guiral -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Deshaies -- Dubé -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Duncan -- Epp -- Fillion -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Gagnon (Québec) -- Gauthier -- Gilmour -- Gouk -- Grey (Beaver River) -- Guay -- Guimond -- Hanger -- Hanrahan -- Harper (Calgary West/Ouest) -- Harper (Simcoe Centre) -- Hart -- Hayes -- Hermanson -- Hill (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Jacob -- Jennings -- Johnson -- Lalonde -- Landry -- Langlois -- Laurin -- Lavigne (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- Lebel -- Leblanc (Longueuil) -- Lefebvre -- Manning -- Marchand -- Martin (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Mayfield -- McClelland (Edmonton Southwest/Sud-Ouest) -- Ménard -- Meredith -- Mills (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Nunez -- Paré -- Penson -- Picard (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Ramsay -- Ringma -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Schmidt -- Silye -- Speaker -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Thompson -- Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Tremblay (Rosemont) -- Venne -- White (Fraser Valley West/Ouest) -- Williams -- 81

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Allmand -- Althouse -- Anawak -- Anderson -- Arseneault -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Axworthy (Saskatoon -- Clark's Crossing) -- Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre/Sud-Centre) -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bernier (Beauce) -- Bertrand -- Bethel -- Bevilacqua -- Bhaduria -- Blaikie -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Boudria -- Brown (Oakville -- Milton) -- Bryden -- Caccia -- Calder -- Cannis -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Chrétien (Saint-Maurice) -- Clancy -- Cohen -- Collins -- Copps -- Cowling -- Culbert -- de Jong -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dromisky -- Duhamel -- Dupuy -- Easter -- Eggleton -- English -- Finlay -- Flis -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gaffney -- Gagliano -- Gagnon (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine) -- Gallaway -- Gerrard -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray (Windsor West/Ouest) -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Harper (Churchill) -- Harvard -- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Jordan -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lavigne (Verdun -- Saint-Paul) -- LeBlanc (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Lee -- Lincoln -- Loney -- MacAulay -- MacDonald -- Maclaren -- Maclellan (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The Sydneys -- Maheu -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McLaughlin -- McLellan (Edmonton Northwest/Nord-Ouest) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murphy -- Murray -- O'Brien -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Payne -- Peric -- Peters -- Phinney -- Pickard (Essex -- Kent) -- Proud -- Regan -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Ringuette-Maltais -- Robillard -- Scott (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Simmons -- Solomon -- Speller -- Steckle -- Stewart (Brant) -- Szabo -- Taylor -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Thalheimer -- Torsney -- Vanclief -- Verran -- Volpe -- Wappel -- Wells -- Wood -- Young -- Zed -- 147

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Asselin -- Bachand -- Bouchard -- Brien -- Brushett -- Campbell -- Canuel -- Crête -- Daviault -- Dingwall -- Discepola -- Eggleton -- Fewchuk -- Godin -- Hickey -- Leroux (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Leroux (Shefford) -- Loubier -- Mercier -- Ouellet -- Peterson -- Pilliteri -- Pomerleau -- Rock -- St-Laurent -- St. Denis -- Stewart (Northumberland) -- Walker

Pursuant to Standing Order 45, the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division at report stage of Bill C-99, An Act to amend the Small Business Loans Act, as reported by the Standing Committee on Industry with amendments.

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 3 of Mr. Rocheleau (Trois-Rivières), seconded by Mr. Lefebvre (Champlain), -- That Bill C-99, in Clause 4, be amended by replacing line 6, on page 4, with the following:

``ty taken''.

The question was put on the motion and it was negatived to on the following division:

YEAS: 46, NAYS: 183. (See list under Division No. 383)

Mr. Peters (Secretary of State (International Financial Institutions)) for Mr. Manley (Minister of Industry) for Mr. Manley (Minister of Industry), seconded by Mr. Gagliano (Secretary of State (Parliamentary Affairs) and Deputy Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), moved, -- That C-99, An Act to amend the Small Business Loans Act, as amended, be concurred in at report stage.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 385)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Allmand -- Anawak -- Anderson -- Arseneault -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre/Sud-Centre) -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Benoit -- Bernier (Beauce) -- Bertrand -- Bethel -- Bevilacqua -- Bhaduria -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Boudria -- Breitkreuz (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Bridgman -- Brown (Calgary Southeast/Sud-Est) -- Brown (Oakville -- Milton) -- Bryden -- Caccia -- Calder -- Cannis -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Chrétien (Saint-Maurice) -- Clancy -- Cohen -- Collins -- Copps -- Cowling -- Culbert -- Cummins -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dromisky -- Duhamel -- Duncan -- Dupuy -- Easter -- Eggleton -- English -- Epp -- Finlay -- Flis -- Fontana -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Fry -- Gaffney -- Gagliano -- Gagnon (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine) -- Gallaway -- Gerrard -- Gilmour -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Gouk -- Graham -- Gray (Windsor West/Ouest) -- Grey (Beaver River) -- Guarnieri -- Hanger -- Harper (Simcoe Centre) -- Hart -- Harvard -- Hayes -- Hermanson -- Hill (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Jenning -- Johnston -- Jordan -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lavigne (Verdun-Saint-Paul) -- Lebel -- Leblanc (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Lee -- Maclaren -- Maclellan (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The Sydneys) -- Maheu -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manning -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- Mayfield -- McClelland (Edmonton Southwest/Sud-Ouest) -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McLellan (Edmonton Northwest/ Nord-Ouest) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Meredith -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills (Broadview-Greenwood) -- Mills (Red Deer) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Morrison -- Murphy -- Murray -- O'Brien -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Payne -- Penson -- Peric -- Peters -- Phinney -- Pickard (Essex -- Kent) -- Proud -- Ramsay -- Regan -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Ringma -- Ringuette-Maltais -- Robillard -- Schmidt -- Scott (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Silye -- Simmons -- Speaker -- Speller -- Steckle -- Stewart (Brant) -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Thalheimer -- Thompson -- Torsney -- Vanclief -- Verran -- Volpe -- Wappel -- Wells -- White (Fraser Valley West/Ouest) -- Wood -- Young -- Zed -- 182

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Althouse -- Axworthy (Saskatoon -- Clark's Crossing) -- Bélisle -- Bellehumeur -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Gaspé) -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Blaikie -- Caron -- Chrétien (Frontenac) -- Dalphond-Guiral -- de Jong -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Deshaies -- Dubé -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Fillion -- Gagnon (Québec) -- Gauthier -- Guay -- Guimond -- Jacob -- Lalonde -- Landry -- Langlois -- Laurin -- Lavigne (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- Lebel -- Leblanc (Longueuil) -- Lefebvre -- Marchand -- McLaughlin -- Ménard -- Nunez -- Paré -- Picard (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Solomon -- Taylor -- Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Tremblay (Rosemont) -- Venne -- Williams -- 47

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Asselin -- Bachand -- Bouchard -- Brien -- Brushett -- Campbell -- Canuel -- Crête -- Daviault -- Dingwall -- Discepola -- Eggleton -- Fewchuk -- Godin -- Hickey -- Leroux (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Leroux (Shefford) -- Loubier -- Mercier -- Ouellet -- Peterson -- Pilliteri -- Pomerleau -- Rock -- St-Laurent -- St. Denis -- Stewart (Northumberland) -- Walker

Accordingly, the Bill, as amended, was concurred in at report stage and ordered for a third reading at the next sitting of the House.

Pursuant to Standing Order 45, the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the motion of Mr. Irwin (Minister of Indian Affairs and Northern Development), seconded by Mr. Peters (Secretary of State (International Financial Institutions)), -- That Bill C-107, An Act respecting the establishment of the British Columbia Treaty Commission, be now read a third time and do pass.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 386)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Allmand -- Althouse -- Anawak -- Anderson -- Arseneault -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Axworthy (Saskatoon -- Clark's Crossing) -- Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre/Sud-Centre) -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bélisle -- Bellehumeur -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Beauce) -- Bernier (Gaspé) -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Bertrand -- Bethel -- Bevilacqua -- Bhaduria -- Blaikie -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Boudria -- Brown (Oakville -- Milton) -- Bryden -- Caccia -- Calder -- Cannis -- Caron -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Chrétien (Frontenac) -- Chrétien (Saint-Maurice) -- Clancy -- Cohen -- Collins -- Copps -- Cowling -- Culbert -- Dalphond-Guiral -- de Jong -- deSavoye -- Debien -- Dehaies -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dromisky -- Dubé -- Duceppe -- Duhamel -- Dumas -- Dupuy -- Easter -- Eggleton -- English -- Fillion -- Finlay -- Flis -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gaffney -- Gagliano -- Gagnon (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine) -- Gagnon (Québec) -- Gallaway -- Gauthier -- Gerrard -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray (Windsor West/Ouest) -- Guarnieri -- Guay -- Guimond -- Harb -- Harper (Churchill) -- Harvard -- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Jacob -- Jordan -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lalonde -- Landry -- Langlois -- Lastewka -- Laurin -- Laving (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- Lavigne (Verdun -- Saint-Paul) -- Lebel -- Leblanc (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Leblanc (Longueuil) -- Lee -- Lefebvre -- Lincoln -- Loney -- MacAulay -- MacDonald -- Maclaren -- Maclellan (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The Sydneys) -- Maheu -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Marchand -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McLaughlin -- McLellan (Edmonton Northwest/Nord-Ouest) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Ménard -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murphy -- Murray -- Nunez -- O'Brien -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Paré -- Parrish -- Patry -- Payne -- Peric -- Peters -- Phinney -- Picard (Drummond) -- Pickard (Essex -- Kent) -- Plamondon -- Proud -- Regan -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Ringuette-Maltais -- Robillard -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Scott (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Simmons -- Solomon -- Speller -- Steckle -- Stewart (Brant) -- Szabo -- Taylor -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Thalheimer -- Torsney -- Tremblay (Rimouski-Témiscouata) -- Tremblay (Rosemont) -- Vanclief -- Venne -- Verran -- Volpe -- Wappel -- Wells -- Wood -- Young -- Zed -- 187

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Benoit -- Breitkreuz (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Bridgman -- Brown (Calgary Southeast/Sud-Est) -- Cummins -- Duncan -- Epp -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Gilmour -- Gouk -- Grey (Beaver River) -- Hanger -- Hanrahan -- Harper (Calgary West/Ouest) -- Harper (Simcoe Centre) -- Hart -- Hayes -- Hermanson -- Hill (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Jennings -- Johnston -- Manning -- Martin (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Mayfield -- McClelland (Edmonton Southwest/Sud-Ouest) -- Meredith -- Mills (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Penson -- Ramsay -- Ringma -- Schmidt -- Silye -- Speaker -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Thompson -- White (Fraser Valley West/Ouest) -- Williams -- 42

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Asselin -- Bachand -- Bouchard -- Brien -- Brushett -- Campbell -- Canuel -- Crête -- Daviault -- Dingwall -- Discepola -- Eggleton -- Fewchuk -- Godin -- Hickey -- Leroux (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Leroux (Shefford) -- Loubier -- Mercier -- Ouellet -- Peterson -- Pilliteri -- Pomerleau -- Rock -- St-Laurent -- St. Denis -- Stewart (Northumberland) -- Walker

Accordingly, the Bill was read the third time and passed.

Pursuant to Standing Order 45, the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded divisions at report stage of Bill C-78, An Act to provide for the establishment and operation of a program to enable certain persons to receive protection in relation to certain inquiries, investigations or prosecutions, as reported by the Standing Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs with amendments.

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 1 of Mr. Hanger (Calgary Northeast), seconded by Mr. White (Fraser Valley West), -- That Bill C-78, in Clause 5, be amended:

(a) by replacing line 32, on page 2, with the following:

``5.(1) Subject to this Act, the Commissioner''; and

(b) by adding after line 36, on page 2, the following:

``(2) Any decision made by the Commissioner, or by a member of the Force on behalf of the Commissioner, under section 5, 9, 11 or 14 of this Act may be reviewed by the Minister on application by a law enforcement agency.''

The question was put on the motion and it was negatived to on the following division:

YEAS: 88, NAYS: 141. (See list under Division No. 380)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 2 of Mr. Hanger (Calgary Northeast). seconded by Mr. White (Fraser Valley West), -- That Bill C-78. in Clause 16, be amended by adding after line 17, on page 8, the following:

``(3) Every report prepared under subsection (1) shall, after it is laid before each House of Parliament under subsection (2), be referred to the committee of Parliament that normally considers matters relating to justice and legal affairs.

(4) Every report prepared under subsection (1) shall include, without limiting the generality of the foregoing, the following information:

(a) the number of agreements entered into and the law enforcement agencies involved;

(b) the number of applications made;

(c) the average amount spent on each agreement entered into;

(d) the number of agreements terminated and the reasons for their termination;

(e) the number and types of offences committed by protectees;

(f) the total amount of all money from the Consolidated Revenue Fund spent in relation to the operation of this Act;

(g) co-operative measures between the Force and other law enforcement agencies with respect to witness protection; and

(h) the number of foreign witnesses admitted to Canada and the number of Canadian witnesses relocated outside Canada.''

The question was put on the motion and it was negatived to on the following division:

YEAS: 88, NAYS: 141. (See list under Division No. 380)

Mr. Gray (Solicitor General of Canada), seconded by Mr. Gagliano (Secretary of State (Parliamentary Affairs) and Deputy Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), moved, -- That Bill C-78, An Act to provide for the establishment and operation of a program to enable certain persons to receive protection in relation to certain inquiries, investigations or prosecutions, as amended, be concurred in at report stage.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to.

Accordingly, the Bill, as amended, was concurred in at report stage and ordered for a third reading at the next sitting of the House.

PRIVATE MEMBERS' BUSINESS

At 6:44 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 30(7), the House proceeded to the consideration of Private Members' Business.

Mr. Taylor (The Battlefords -- Meadow Lake), seconded by Ms. McLaughlin (Yukon), moved, -- That, in the opinion of this House, the government should consider the advisability of establishing a new, independent aboriginal land claims commission, as recommended in the 1994/95 annual report of the Indian Claims Commission. (Private Members' Business M-484)

Debate arose thereon.

Pursuant to Standing Order 93, the Order was dropped to the bottom of the order of precedence on the Order Paper.

ADJOURNMENT

At 7:44 p.m., the Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow at 2:00 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).