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HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA
35TH PARLIAMENT, 1st SESSION


JOURNALS

No. 095

Thursday, September 22, 1994

10:00 a.m.



PRAYERS

DAILY ROUTINE OF BUSINESS

Introduction of Government Bills

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Goodale (Minister of Agriculture and Agri-Food), seconded by Mr. Rock (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada), Bill C-51, An Act to amend the Canada Grain Act and respecting certain regulations made pursuant to that Act, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.


Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Gray (Leader of the Government in the House of Commons and Solicitor General of Canada) for Mr. Dingwall (Minister of Public Works and Government Services), seconded by Mr. Gagliano (Secretary of State (Parliamentary Affairs) and Deputy Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), Bill C-52, An Act to establish the Department of Public Works and Government Services and to amend and repeal certain Acts, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Recommendation
(Pursuant to Standing Order 79(2)
)

      His Excellency the Governor General recommends to the House of Commons the appropriation of public revenue under the circumstances, in the manner and for the purposes set out in a measure entitled ``An Act to establish the Department of Public Works and Government Services and to amend and repeal certain Acts''.

Introduction of Private Members' Bills

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Hill (Prince George -- Peace River), seconded by Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), Bill C-272, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (gun control), was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Presenting Petitions Présentation de pétitions

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were presented as follows:

-- by Mr. Wappel (Scarborough West), one concerning the Young Offenders Act (No. 351-0753), one concerning abortion (No. 351-0754) and one concerning the Canadian Human Rights Act (No. 351-0755);

-- by Mr. Hart (Okanagan -- Similkameen -- Merritt), one concerning the Canadian Human Rights Act (No. 351-0756);

-- by Mr. Bélair (Cochrane -- Superior), one concerning the Young Offenders Act (No. 351-0757);

-- by Mr. DeVillers (Simcoe North), one concerning the Canadian Human Rights Act (No. 351-0758);

-- by Mr. Milliken (Kingston and the Islands), one concerning safety on school buses (No. 351-0759);

-- by Mr. Hubbard (Miramichi), one concerning the mining industry (No. 351-0760).

Introduction of Private Members' Bills

By unanimous consent, on motion of Mr. Lebel (Chambly), seconded by Mr. Duceppe (Laurier -- Sainte-Marie), Bill C-273, An Act to amend the Interest Act, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Questions on Order Paper

Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) presented the answer to question Q-62 on the Order Paper.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Marchi (Minister of Citizenship and Immigration), seconded by Mr. Dingwall (Minister of Public Works and Government Services and Minister for the Atlantic Canada Opportunities Agency), -- That Bill C-44, An Act to amend the Immigration Act and the Citizenship Act and to make a consequential amendment to the Customs Act, be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Citizenship and Immigration.

And of the amendment of Mr. Mayfield (Cariboo -- Chilcotin), seconded by Mr. Hermanson (Kindersley -- Lloydminster), -- That the motion be amended by striking out all the words after the word ``That'' and substituting the following:

      ``this House declines to give second reading to Bill C-44, An Act to amend the Immigration Act and the Citizenship Act and to make a consequential amendment to the Customs Act, because of its failure to bar, prior to a refugee hearing and an application for permanent residence, those who have been convicted of a crime that would carry a sentence in Canada of 10 years or more and those individuals who fall under the category of persons listed in section 19(1) and (2) of the Immigration Act.''

The question was put on the amendment and it was negatived on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 82)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Benoit -- Breitkreuz (Yellowhead) -- Bridgman -- Brown (Calgary Southeast) -- Chatters -- Cummins -- Duncan -- Epp -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Gouk -- Grey (Beaver River) -- Grubel -- Hanger -- Hanrahan -- Harper (Calgary West) -- Harper (Simcoe Centre) -- Hart -- Hayes -- Hermanson -- Hill (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Jennings -- Johnston -- Kerpan -- Manning -- Mayfield -- McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) -- Meredith -- Mills (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Penson -- Ramsay -- Ringma -- Schmidt -- Scott (Skeena) -- Silye -- Solberg -- Speaker -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Thompson -- White (Fraser Valley West) -- White (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- 46

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Allmand -- Althouse -- Anawak -- Anderson -- Arseneault -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Asselin -- Augustine -- Axworthy (Saskatoon -- Clark's Crossing) -- Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bachand -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Bellehumeur -- Bellemare -- Berger -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Beauce) -- Bernier (Gaspé) -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Bertrand -- Bethel -- Bevilacqua -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Bouchard -- Boudria -- Brien -- Brown (Oakville -- Milton) -- Brushett -- Bryden -- Bélair -- Bélisle -- Caccia -- Calder -- Cannis -- Canuel -- Caron -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Chrétien (Frontenac) -- Chrétien (Saint-Maurice) -- Clancy -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Collins -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Cowling -- Crawford -- Crête -- Culbert -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Daviault -- de Savoye -- Deshaies -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dingwall -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Dubé -- Duceppe -- Duhamel -- Dumas -- Dupuy -- English -- Fewchuk -- Fillion -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Flis -- Fry -- Gaffney -- Gagliano -- Gagnon (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine) -- Gallaway -- Gauthier (Ottawa -- Vanier) -- Gauthier (Roberval) -- Godfrey -- Godin -- Goodale -- Gray (Windsor West) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Guay -- Guimond -- Harvard -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Jackson -- Jacob -- Jordan -- Kilger (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lalonde -- Landry -- Langlois -- Lastewka -- Laurin -- Lavigne (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- LeBlanc (Cape/Cap Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Leblanc (Longueuil) -- Lee -- Leroux (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Leroux (Shefford) -- Lincoln -- Loubier -- MacDonald -- MacLaren (Etobicoke North) -- MacLellan (Cape/Cap Breton -- The Sydneys) -- Maheu -- Malhi -- Manley -- Marchand -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKinnon -- McLellan (Edmonton Northwest) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murphy -- Murray -- Ménard -- Nault -- Nunez -- O'Brien -- O'Reilly -- Ouellet -- Pagtakhan -- Parrish -- Patry -- Payne -- Peric -- Peters -- Peterson -- Phinney -- Picard (Drummond) -- Pickard (Essex -- Kent) -- Pillitteri -- Pomerleau -- Regan -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Riis -- Robichaud -- Robinson -- Rocheleau -- Rock -- Rompkey -- Sauvageau -- Scott (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Sheridan -- Skoke -- Solomon -- Speller -- St-Laurent -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart (Brant) -- Szabo -- Terrana -- Torsney -- Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Tremblay (Rosemont) -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Venne -- Verran -- Walker -- Wappel -- Wayne -- Whelan -- Wood -- Young -- Zed -- 194

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Debien -- Gagnon (Québec) -- Harper (Churchill) -- MacAulay -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Paré -- Plamondon -- Ringuette-Maltais

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Marchi (Minister of Citizenship and Immigration), seconded by Mr. Dingwall (Minister of Public Works and Government Services and Minister for the Atlantic Canada Opportunities Agency), -- That Bill C44, An Act to amend the Immigration Act and the Citizenship Act and to make a consequential amendment to the Customs Act, be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Citizenship and Immigration.

The debate continued.

MOTIONS

By unanimous consent, it was ordered, -- That, notwithstanding any Order of the House, any recorded division to be taken today on Motion M-150 be deferred until Tuesday, September 27, 1994, at 3:00 p.m.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Marchi (Minister of Citizenship and Immigration), seconded by Mr. Dingwall (Minister of Public Works and Government Services and Minister for the Atlantic Canada Opportunities Agency), -- That Bill C-44, An Act to amend the Immigration Act and the Citizenship Act and to make a consequential amendment to the Customs Act, be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Citizenship and Immigration.

The debate continued.

The question was put on the motion and, by unanimous consent, the recorded division was deferred until Tuesday, September 27, 1994, at 3:00 p.m.


The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Rock (Minister of Justice), seconded by Mr. MacAulay (Secretary of State (Veterans)), -- That Bill C-41, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (sentencing) and other Acts in consequence thereof, be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs.

The debate continued.

STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

ORAL QUESTIONS

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Rock (Minister of Justice), seconded by Mr. MacAulay (Secretary of State (Veterans)), -- That Bill C-41, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (sentencing) and other Acts in consequence thereof, be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs.

The debate continued.

PRIVATE MEMBERS' BUSINESS

At 5:30 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 30(6), the House proceeded to the consideration of Private Members' Business.

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Plamondon (Richelieu), seconded by Mr. Chrétien (Frontenac), -- That, in the opinion of this House, the government should bring in legislation limiting solely to individuals the right to donate to a federal political party, and restricting such donations to a maximum of $5,000 a year. (Private Members' Business M-150)

And of the amendment of Mr. Assad (Gatineau -- La Lièvre), seconded by Mr. Bryden (Hamilton -- Wentworth), -- That the motion be amended by replacing the figure ``$5,000'' with the following:

      ``$1''.

The debate continued.

At 6:16 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 93, the Speaker interrupted the proceedings.

The question was put on the amendment and, pursuant to Order made earlier today, the recorded division was deferred until Tuesday, September 27, 1994, at 3:00 p.m.

INTERRUPTION

At 6:18 p.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 6:25 p.m., the sitting resumed.

PROCEEDINGS ON ADJOURNMENT MOTION

Pursuant to Standing Order 38(1), the question ``That this House do now adjourn'' was deemed to have been proposed.

After debate, the question was deemed to have been adopted.

PETITIONS FILED WITH THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, a petition certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions was filed as follows:

-- by Mr. Adams (Peterborough), concerning Indian affairs (No. 351-0761).

ADJOURNMENT

At 6:33 p.m., the House adjourned until tomorrow at 10:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).