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House of Commons of Canada
35th Parliament, 2nd Session
Journals
No. 160
Monday, April 21, 1997
11:00 a.m.
Prayers
Private Members’ Business
At 11:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 30(6), the House proceeded to the consideration of Private Members’ Business.
The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Hermanson (Kindersley–Lloydminster), seconded by Mr. Speaker (Lethbridge), — That Bill C–250, An Act to amend the Parliament of Canada Act and the Canada Elections Act (confidence votes), be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs.
The debate continued.
The question was put on the motion and, pursuant to Standing Order 45, the recorded division was deferred until later today, at the expiry of the time provided for Government Orders.
Interruption
At 11:52 a.m., the sitting was suspended.
At 12:01 p.m., the sitting resumed.
Government Orders
The Order was read for the consideration at report stage and second reading of Bill C–93, An Act to implement certain provisions of the budget tabled in Parliament on February 18, 1997, as reported by the Standing Committee on Finance without amendment.
Mrs. Robillard (Minister of Citizenship and Immigration) for Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance), seconded by Mr. Peters (Secretary of State (International Financial Institutions)), moved, — That the Bill be concurred in at report stage and read a second time.
The question was put on the motion and, pursuant to Standing Order 45, the recorded division was deferred until later today, at the expiry of the time provided for Government Orders.
The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Rock (Minister of Justice), seconded by Ms. Marleau (Minister of Public Works and Government Services), — That Bill C–95, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (criminal organizations) and to amend other Acts in consequence, be now read a second time and referred to a Committee of the Whole.
The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on division.
Accordingly, the Bill was read the second time and referred to a Committee of the Whole.
Bill C–95, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (criminal organizations) and to amend other Acts in consequence, was considered in Committee of the Whole and progress having been made and reported, the Committee obtained leave to consider it again later today.
Statements by Members
Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.
Oral Questions
Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.
Daily Routine of Business
Presenting Reports from Committees
Ms. Catterall (Ottawa West), from the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs, presented the 64th Report of the Committee (The Business of Supply: Completing the Circle of Control). — Sessional Paper No. 8510-352-105.
A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings and Evidence (Issue No. 4, which includes this Report) was tabled.
Introduction of Private Members’ Bills
Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Strahl (Fraser Valley East), seconded by Mrs. Ablonczy (Calgary North), Bill C–407, An Act to amend the Canada Elections Act, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.
Presenting Petitions
Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were presented as follows:
- by Mr. Flis (Parkdale–High Park), one concerning NATO (No. 352-2143), one concerning the abduction of children from Canada by a parent (No. 352-2144) and one concerning housing policies (No. 352-2145);
- by Mr. Benoit (Vegreville), one concerning taxes on books (No. 352-2146) and one concerning the sexual exploitation of minors (No. 352-2147);
- by Mr. Szabo (Mississauga South), one concerning police and firefighters’ death benefits (No. 352-2148), one concerning the income tax system (No. 352-2149) and one concerning alcoholic beverages (No. 352-2150);
- by Mrs. Ablonczy (Calgary North), one concerning corporal punishment (No. 352-2151);
- by Mr. de Jong (Regina–Qu’Appelle), one concerning the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation (No. 352-2152);
- by Mr. McGuire (Egmont), one concerning taxes on books (No. 352-2153);
- by Mrs. Hayes (Port Moody–Coquitlam), six concerning corporal punishment (Nos. 352-2154 to 352-2159) and one concerning the sexual exploitation of minors (No. 352-2160);
- by Mrs. Gaffney (Nepean), two concerning the highway system (Nos. 352-2161 and 352-2162);
- by Mr. White (North Vancouver), one concerning conscientious objection (No. 352-2163);
- by Mrs. Brown (Calgary Southeast), fifteen concerning sex offenders (Nos. 352-2164 to 352-2178), one concerning breast cancer (No. 352-2179), three concerning euthanasia (Nos. 352-2180 to 352-2182), one concerning the parole system (No. 352-2183) four concerning sexual orientation (Nos. 352-2184 to 352-2187), one concerning the highway system (No. 352-2188) and one concerning national unity (No. 352-2189).
Government Orders
The House resumed consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bill C–95, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (criminal organizations) and to amend other Acts in consequence, and reported it with the following amendments:
Clause 15
- Replace line 36 on page 10, in the French version, with the following:
“les biens infractionnels soient confis-”
- Replace line 15 on page 12, in the French version, with the following:
“juge doit ordonner la confiscation des“
Pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(12), Mr. Rock (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada), seconded by Mr. Zed (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), moved, — That Bill C–95, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (criminal organizations) and to amend other Acts in consequence, be concurred in at report stage with amendments.
The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to.
Accordingly, the Bill, as amended, was concurred in at report stage and, by unanimous consent, ordered for a third reading later today.
Mr. Rock (Minister of Justice), seconded by Mr. Zed (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), moved, — That the Bill be now read a third time and do pass.
Debate arose thereon.
Motions
By unanimous consent, Mr. Zed (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), seconded by Mr. Kilger (Stormont–Dundas), moved, — That, no later than fifteen minutes before the expiry of the time allotted for the consideration of Government Orders on Tuesday, April 22, 1997, all questions shall be put without further debate or amendment as are required at that time for the disposal of the third reading stage of Bill C–93, the report stages and third reading stages of Bills C–37, C–39 and C–40 and the second reading stage of Bill C–75.
The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to.
By unanimous consent, Mr. Zed (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), seconded by Mr. Kilger (Stormont–Dundas), moved, — That, in accordance with subsection 54(3) of the Act to extend the present laws of Canada that provide access to information under the control of the Government of Canada, Chapter A–1 of the Revised Statutes of Canada 1985, this House approve the re-appointment of John Grace as Information Commissioner, to hold office until December 31, 1997.
The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to.
Government Orders
The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Rock (Minister of Justice), seconded by Mr. Zed (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), — That Bill C–95, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (criminal organizations) and to amend other Acts in consequence, be now read a third time and do pass.
The debate continued.
The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on division.
Accordingly, the Bill was read the third time and passed.
At 6:30 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 45, the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the motion of Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance), seconded by Mrs. Stewart (Secretary of State (Latin America and Africa)), — That Bill C–92, An Act to amend the Income Tax Act, the Income Tax Application Rules and another Act related to the Income Tax Act, be now read a third time and do pass.
The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:
(Division — Vote No 327)
Yeas — Pour
Members — Députés
Adams — Alcock — Anderson — Assad — Assadourian — Augustine — Barnes — Beaumier — Bélair — Bellemare — Bertrand — Bethel — Blondin-Andrew — Boudria — Brushett — Bryden — Caccia — Calder — Catterall — Chamberlain — Chan — Collins — Comuzzi — Culbert — Cullen — DeVillers — Dhaliwal — Duhamel — English — Fewchuk — Finlay — Flis — Fontana — Fry — Gaffney — Gallaway — Gerrard — Goodale — Graham — Guarnieri — Harb — Harvard — Hickey — Hopkins — Hubbard — Iftody — Irwin — Jackson — Jordan — Karygiannis — Keyes — Kilger (Stormont–Dundas) — Kirkby — Knutson — Kraft Sloan — Lastewka — Lincoln — Loney — Maloney — Marleau — McCormick — McGuire — McWhinney — Mifflin — Milliken — Mitchell — Murphy — Murray — O’Brien (London–Middlesex) — Parrish — Peters — Peterson — Phinney — Pillitteri — Reed — Regan — Richardson — Rideout — Ringuette-Maltais — Robichaud — Robillard — Scott (Fredericton–York–Sunbury) — Serré — Shepherd — Sheridan — Simmons — St. Denis — Steckle — Stewart (Northumberland) — Szabo — Telegdi — Terrana — Thalheimer — Torsney — Ur — Valeri — Wood — Young — Zed --99
Nays — Contre
Members — Députés
Ablonczy — Asselin — Bellehumeur — Benoit — Brien — Crête — de Savoye — Epp — Fillion — Gagnon (Québec) — Gilmour — Guay — Guimond — Hanrahan — Harper (Simcoe Centre) — Hayes — Hermanson — Johnston — Langlois — Laurin — Marchand — Ménard — Meredith — Morrison — Nunez — Picard (Drummond) — Ramsay — Sauvageau — Solberg — Speaker — Strahl — Taylor — Tremblay (Rimouski–Témiscouata) — White (Fraser Valley West) — White (North Vancouver) --35
Paired Members — Députés « Pairés »
Anderson — Arseneault — Bachand — Bakopanos — Bélisle — Bergeron — Bernier (Gaspé) — Bernier (Mégantic–Compton–Stanstead) — Brown (Oakville–Milton) — Campbell — Canuel — Cauchon — Chrétien (Frontenac) — Cohen — Collenette — Crawford — Dalphond-Guiral — Daviault — Debien — Dion — Dubé — Duceppe — Dumas — Dupuy — Easter — Finestone — Gagliano — Gauthier — Godfrey — Godin — Gray (Windsor West) — Lalonde — Landry — Lebel — LeBlanc (Cape Breton Highlands–Canso) — Lefebvre — Leroux (Richmond–Wolfe) — Leroux (Shefford) — Loubier — Manley — Marchi — Martin (LaSalle–Émard) — Massé — Mercier — O’Reilly — Pagtakhan — Paré — Patry — Pomerleau — Proud — Rocheleau — Rock — Tremblay (Lac Saint-Jean) — Tremblay (Rosemont) — Vanclief — Venne — Walker — Whelan
Accordingly, the Bill was read the third time and passed.
Pursuant to Standing Order 45, the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the motion of Mr. Hermanson (Kindersley–Lloydminster), seconded by Mr. Speaker (Lethbridge), — That Bill C–250, An Act to amend the Parliament of Canada Act and the Canada Elections Act (confidence votes), be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs.
The question was put on the motion and it was negatived on the following division:
(Division — Vote No 328)
Yeas — Pour
Members — Députés
Ablonczy — Bellehumeur — Benoit — Brien — Crête — de Savoye — Epp — Fillion — Gagnon (Québec) — Gilmour — Guay — Guimond — Hanrahan — Harper (Simcoe Centre) — Hayes — Hermanson — Johnston — Langlois — Laurin — Meredith — Morrison — Nunez — Picard (Drummond) — Ramsay — Sauvageau — Solberg — Speaker — Strahl — Taylor — Tremblay (Rimouski–Témiscouata) — White (Fraser Valley West) — White (North Vancouver) --32
Nays — Contre
Members — Députés
Adams — Alcock — Anderson — Assad — Assadourian — Asselin — Augustine — Barnes — Beaumier — Bélair — Bellemare — Bertrand — Blondin-Andrew — Boudria — Brushett — Bryden — Caccia — Calder — Catterall — Chamberlain — Chan — Collins — Comuzzi — Culbert — Cullen — DeVillers — Dhaliwal — Duhamel — English — Fewchuk — Finlay — Flis — Fontana — Fry — Gaffney — Gallaway — Gerrard — Goodale — Graham — Guarnieri — Harb — Harvard — Hickey — Hopkins — Hubbard — Iftody — Irwin — Jackson — Jordan — Karygiannis — Keyes — Kilger (Stormont–Dundas) — Kirkby — Knutson — Kraft Sloan — Lastewka — Lincoln — Loney — Maloney — Marleau — McCormick — McGuire — McWhinney — Ménard — Mifflin — Milliken — Mitchell — Murphy — Murray — O’Brien (London–Middlesex) — Parrish — Peters — Peterson — Phinney — Pillitteri — Reed — Regan — Richardson — Rideout — Ringuette-Maltais — Robichaud — Robillard — Scott (Fredericton–York–Sunbury) — Serré — Shepherd — Simmons — St. Denis — Steckle — Stewart (Northumberland) — Szabo — Telegdi — Terrana — Thalheimer — Torsney — Wood — Young — Zed --97
Paired Members — Députés « Pairés »
Anderson — Arseneault — Bachand — Bakopanos — Bélisle — Bergeron — Bernier (Gaspé) — Bernier (Mégantic–Compton–Stanstead) — Brown (Oakville–Milton) — Campbell — Canuel — Cauchon — Chrétien (Frontenac) — Cohen — Collenette — Crawford — Dalphond-Guiral — Daviault — Debien — Dion — Dubé — Duceppe — Dumas — Dupuy — Easter — Finestone — Gagliano — Gauthier — Godfrey — Godin — Gray (Windsor West) — Lalonde — Landry — Lebel — LeBlanc (Cape Breton Highlands–Canso) — Lefebvre — Leroux (Richmond–Wolfe) — Leroux (Shefford) — Loubier — Manley — Marchi — Martin (LaSalle–Émard) — Massé — Mercier — O’Reilly — Pagtakhan — Paré — Patry — Pomerleau — Proud — Rocheleau — Rock — Tremblay (Lac Saint-Jean) — Tremblay (Rosemont) — Vanclief — Venne — Walker — Whelan
Pursuant to Standing Order 45, the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division at report stage and second reading of Bill C–93, An Act to implement certain provisions of the budget tabled in Parliament on February 18, 1997 as reported by the Standing Committee on Finance without amendment.
The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:
YEAS: 99, NAYS: 35. (See list under Division No. 327)
Accordingly, the Bill was concurred in at report stage, read the second time and ordered for a third reading at the next sitting of the House.
Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House
Pursuant to Standing Order 32(1), a paper deposited with the Clerk of the House was laid upon the Table as follows:
by Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance) — Report of the Canadian International Trade Tribunal entitled “Request for Tariff Relief by Alpine Joe Sportswear Ltd. regarding certain 4 thread twill fabrics”, dated March 27, 1997, pursuant to the Canada-United States Free Trade Agreement Implementation Act, S. C. 1988, c. 65, sbs. 21(2). — Sessional Paper No. 8560-352-572FF. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Finance)
Petitions Filed with the Clerk of the House
Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were filed as follows:
- by Mrs. Chamberlain (Guelph–Wellington), one concerning taxes on books (No. 352-2190) and one concerning the parole system (No. 352-2191).
Proceedings on Adjournment Motion
At 7:05 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 38(1), the question “That this House do now adjourn" was deemed to have been proposed.
After debate, the question was deemed to have been adopted.
Adjournment
At 7:12 p.m., the Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow at 10:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).