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HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA
35th PARLIAMENT, 2nd SESSION


JOURNALS

No. 90

Thursday, October 24, 1996

10:00 a.m.



PRAYERS

DAILY ROUTINE OF BUSINESS

Tabling of Documents

Pursuant to Standing Order 79(3), the Speaker read a Message from His Excellency the Governor General, presented by Mr. Massé (President of the Treasury Board).

Message on Estimates

    His Excellency the Governor General transmits to the House of Commons Supplementary Estimates (A) of sums required for the service of Canada for the fiscal year ending on March 31, 1997, and, in accordance with section 54 of the Constitution Act, 1867, recommends these Estimates to the House of Commons.

Mr. Massé (President of the Treasury Board) laid upon the Table, -- Document entitled "Supplementary Estimates (A), 1996-97". -- Sessional Paper No. 8520-352-82.


Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Zed (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to the following petitions: (1) Nos. 352-0933, 352-0984, 352-1012 and 352-1037 concerning the appointment of justices. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-352-109A; (2) Nos. 352-0962 to 352-0967, 352-1028 and 352-1077 concerning veterans' affairs. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-352-10I; (3) No. 352-0968 concerning the sexual exploitation of minors. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-352-74E; (4) No. 352-0981 concerning the Young Offenders Act. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-352-25G.

Motions

Pursuant to Standing Orders 81(5) and (6), Mr. Massé (President of the Treasury Board), seconded by Mr. Mifflin (Minister of Fisheries and Oceans), moved, -- That Supplementary Estimates (A) for the fiscal year ending March 31, 1997, laid upon the Table earlier today, be referred to the several Standing Committees of the House as follows:

(1) to the Standing Committee on Aboriginal Affairs and Northern Development

-- Indian Affairs and Northern Development, Votes 1a, 5a, 15a, L30a, 35a, 40a, 45a and 50a

(2) to the Standing Committee on Agriculture and Agri-Food

-- Agriculture and Agri-Food, Votes 1a, 5a and 10a

(3) to the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage

-- Canadian Heritage, Votes 1a, 5a, 10a, 25a, 30a, 35a, 37a, 40a, 65a, 75a, 85a, 105a, 120a and 135a

(4) to the Standing Committee on Environment and Sustainable Development

-- Environment, Votes 1a, 10a and 15a

(5) to the Standing Committee on Finance

-- Finance, Votes 21a and 35a

-- National Revenue, Votes 1a and 5a

(6) to the Standing Committee on Fisheries and Oceans

-- Fisheries and Oceans, Votes 1a and 5a

(7) to the Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs and International Trade

-- Foreign Affairs, Votes 1a, 5a, 15a, 20a and 31a

(8) to the Standing Committee on Government Operations

-- Privy Council, Vote 1a

-- Public Service Commission, Vote 130a

-- Public Works and Government Services, Votes 2a, 15a, 16a, 17a, 18a, 19a, 25a and 36a

-- Treasury Board, Votes 1a and 10a

(9) to the Standing Committee on Health

-- Health, Votes 1a, 10a, 20a and 30a

(10) to the Standing Committee on Human Resources Development

-- Human Resources Development, Votes 1a, 10a, 15a and 25a

(11) to the Standing Committee on Human Rights and the Status of Persons with Disabilities

-- Justice, Vote 21a

(12) to the Standing Committee on Industry

-- Industry, Votes 1a, 5a, 20a, 40a, 45a, 60a, 65a, 80a, 85a, 90a, 95a, 105a and 125a

(13) to the Standing Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs

-- Justice, Votes 1a, 15a, 20a, 30a, 35a and 40a

-- Solicitor General, Votes 1a, 5a, 15a, 25a, 45a and 50a

(14) to the Standing Committee on National Defence and Veterans Affairs

-- Veterans Affairs, Votes 1a and 10a

(15) to the Standing Committee on Natural Resources

-- Natural Resources, Votes 20a and 27a

(16) to the Standing Committee on Public Accounts

-- Finance, Vote 30a

(17) to the Standing Committee on Transport

-- Transport, Votes 1a, 5a, 10a, 33a, 35a, 37a and 45a

(18) to the Standing Joint Committee on Official Languages

-- Privy Council, Vote 25a

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to.


By unanimous consent, Mr. Zed (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), seconded by Mr. Kilger (Stormont -- Dundas), moved, -- That the Standing Committee on Government Operations be the designated committee for the purposes of section 20 of the Seized Property Management Act.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to.

Presenting Petitions

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were presented as follows:

-- by Mr. Bevilacqua (York North), one concerning health care services (No. 352-1168) and one concerning the protection of wild animals and plants (No. 352-1169);

-- by Mr. Szabo (Mississauga South), one concerning the income tax system (No. 352-1170) and one concerning alcoholic beverages (No. 352-1171);

-- by Mr. Kilger (Stormont -- Dundas), one concerning profits from crime (No. 352-1172), one concerning the pharmaceutical industry (No. 352-1173) and one concerning Bell Canada (No. 352-1174).

Questions on Order Paper

Mr. Zed (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) presented the answer to question Q-25 on the Order Paper.

Pursuant to Standing Order 39(7), the following question was made an Order of the House for Return:

    Q-26 -- Mr. Williams (St. Albert) -- What is the rank, position or title of each recipient of second residence allowance and/or transportation allowance from residence to place of work and, what is the cost per individual recipient and method of taxation of these benefits?

Mr. Zed (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) presented the Return to this Order. -- Sessional Paper No. 8555-352-26.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The Order was read for the consideration of the Business of Supply.

Mr. Gauthier (Roberval), seconded by Mr. Duceppe (Laurier -- Sainte-Marie), moved, -- That this House recognize Montreal as the economic mainspring of Quebec society and, therefore, condemn the federal government's lack of concrete initiatives in supporting the Montreal area economy, primarily: the federal government's under-investment in research and development; its inequitable allocation of federal purchases of goods and services; its lack of willingness to support Montreal as a major financial centre in North America and its termination of Montreal's role as a major transportation centre.

Debate arose thereon.

Mr. Duceppe (Laurier -- Sainte-Marie), seconded by Mrs. Dalphond-Guiral (Laval Centre), moved the following amendment, -- That the motion be amended by adding immediately after the word ``recognize'' the following:

    ``the area of''.

Debate arose thereon.

Mr. Ménard (Hochelaga -- Maisonneuve), seconded by Mr. Guimond (Beauport -- Montmorency -- Orléans), moved the following sub-amendment, -- That the amendment be amended by adding immediately after the word ``of'' the following:

    ``Greater''.

Debate arose thereon.

MOTIONS

By unanimous consent, it was ordered, -- That all recorded divisions demanded on the Opposition Motion currently before the House be deemed deferred to Tuesday, October 29, 1996, at the expiry of the time provided for Government Orders.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Gauthier (Roberval), seconded by Mr. Duceppe (Laurier -- Sainte-Marie), in relation to the Business of Supply;

And of the amendment of Mr. Duceppe (Laurier -- Sainte-Marie), seconded by Mrs. Dalphond-Guiral (Laval Centre);

And of the sub-amendment of Mr. Ménard (Hochelaga -- Maisonneuve), seconded by Mr. Guimond (Beauport -- Montmorency -- Orléans).

The debate continued.

STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

ORAL QUESTIONS

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

PRESENTING REPORTS FROM COMMITTEES

By unanimous consent, Mr. Comuzzi (Thunder Bay -- Nipigon), from the Standing Committee on Transport, presented the 2nd Report of the Committee (The St. Lawrence Seaway -- A Bi-national Approach). -- Sessional Paper No. 8510-352-43.

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings and Evidence (Issue No. 3, which includes this Report) was tabled.

MOTIONS

By unanimous consent, Mr. Zed (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), seconded by Mr. Hubbard (Miramichi), moved, -- That the Standing Committee on National Defence and Veterans Affairs be authorized to travel to Nova Scotia to visit Cornwallis Park, CFB Greenwood, MTC Aldershot and CFB Halifax, on November 7 and 8, 1996, and that the necessary staff do accompany the Committee.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Gauthier (Roberval), seconded by Mr. Duceppe (Laurier -- Sainte-Marie), in relation to the Business of Supply;

And of the amendment of Mr. Duceppe (Laurier -- Sainte-Marie), seconded by Mrs. Dalphond-Guiral (Laval Centre);

And of the sub-amendment of Mr. Ménard (Hochelaga -- Maisonneuve), seconded by Mr. Guimond (Beauport -- Montmorency -- Orléans).

The debate continued.

At 5:15 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 81(16), the Speaker interrupted the proceedings.

The question was put on the sub-amendment and, pursuant to the Order made earlier today, the recorded division was deferred until Tuesday, October 29, 1996, at the expiry of the time provided for Government Orders.

PRIVATE MEMBERS' BUSINESS

At 5:17 p.m., by unanimous consent, the House proceeded to the consideration of Private Members' Business.

Item No. 1, standing on the Order of Precedence on the Order Paper in the name of Ms. Torsney (Burlington), was called and, not having been proceeded with, was dropped to the bottom of the Order of Precedence, pursuant to Standing Order 42(2).

RETURNS AND REPORTS DEPOSITED WITH THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(1), papers deposited with the Clerk of the House were laid upon the Table as follows:

-- by Mr. Goodale (Minister of Agriculture and Agri-Food) -- Summaries of the Corporate Plan for 1996-97 to 2000-01 and the Operating and Capital Budgets for 1996-97 of the Canadian Dairy Commission, pursuant to the Financial Administration Act, R. S. 1985, c. F-11, sbs. 125(4). -- Sessional Paper No. 8562-352-836. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Agriculture and Agri-Food)

-- by Mr. Gray (Solicitor General of Canada) -- Report of the Security Intelligence Review Committee for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1996, pursuant to the Canadian Security Intelligence Service Act, R. S. 1985, c. C-23, s. 53. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-352-31. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs)

-- by Mr. Gray (Solicitor General of Canada) -- Report of the Correctional Investigator for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1996, pursuant to the Corrections and Conditional Release Act, S. C. 1992, c. 20, s. 192. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-352-72. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs)

-- by Mr. Marchi (Minister of the Environment) -- Response of the government, pursuant to Standing Order 109, to the 2nd Report of the Standing Committee on the Environment and Sustainable Development: "The Regulation of Biotechnology" (Sessional Paper No. 8510-352-24), presented to the House on Wednesday, June 19, 1996. -- Sessional Paper No. 8512-352-24.

PETITIONS FILED WITH THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, a petition certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions was filed as follows:

-- by Mr. Kilger (Stormont -- Dundas), concerning social policies (No. 352-1175).

PROCEEDINGS ON ADJOURNMENT MOTION

At 5:18 p.m., by unanimous consent, the question "That this House do now adjourn" was deemed to have been proposed.

After debate, the question was deemed to have been adopted.

ADJOURNMENT

At 5:31 p.m., the Speaker adjourned the House until Monday, October 28, 1996, at 11:00 a.m., pursuant to Order made Friday, September 27, 1996, and Standing Order 24(1).