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HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA
36th PARLIAMENT, 1st SESSION


JOURNALS

No. 197

Tuesday, March 16, 1999

10:00 a.m.



The Clerk informed the House of the unavoidable absence of the Speaker.

Whereupon, Mr. Milliken (Kingston and the Islands), Deputy Speaker and Chairman of Committees of the Whole, took the Chair, pursuant to subsection 43(1) of the Parliament of Canada Act.

PRAYERS

WAYS AND MEANS

Mr. Kilgour (Secretary of State (Latin America and Africa)) laid upon the Table, -- Notice of a Ways and Means motion to amend the Excise Tax Act. (Ways and Means Proceedings No. 26) -- Sessional Paper No. 8570-361-27.

Pursuant to Standing Order 83(2), at the request of Mr. Kilgour (Secretary of State (Latin America and Africa)), an Order of the Day was designated for the consideration of this Ways and Means motion.

DAILY ROUTINE OF BUSINESS

Tabling of Documents

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Adams (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to the following petitions:

-- Nos. 361-1921, 361-1922, 361-1923, 361-1943, 361-1944, 361-1945, 361-1946, 361-1947, 361-1948, 361-1949 and 361-1995 concerning banks. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-361-103D;

-- No. 361-1937 concerning veterans' affairs. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-361-110.

Presenting Reports from Committees

Mr. Williams (St. Albert), from the Standing Committee on Public Accounts, presented the 24th Report of the Committee (Chapter 27 of the December 1998 Report of the Auditor General of Canada). -- Sessional Paper No. 8510-361-147.

Pursuant to Standing Order 109, the government was requested by the Committee to table a comprehensive response.

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings (Meetings Nos. 53 and 56) was tabled.

Introduction of Government Bills

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Mitchell (Secretary of State (Parks)) for Ms. Copps (Minister of Canadian Heritage), seconded by Mr. Kilgour (Secretary of State (Latin America and Africa)), Bill C-70, An Act respecting national parks, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Recommendation
(Pursuant to Standing Order 79(2)
)

His Excellency the Governor General recommends to the House of Commons the appropriation of public revenue under the circumstances, in the manner and for the purposes set out in a measure entitled ``An Act respecting national parks''.


Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Kilgour (Secretary of State (Latin America and Africa)) for Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance), seconded by Mr. Mitchell (Secretary of State (Parks)), Bill C-71, An Act to implement certain provisions of the budget tabled in Parliament on February 16, 1999, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Recommendation
(Pursuant to Standing Order 79(2)
)

His Excellency the Governor General recommends to the House of Commons the appropriation of public revenue under the circumstances, in the manner and for the purposes set out in a measure entitled ``An Act to implement certain provisions of the budget tabled in Parliament on February 16, 1999''.


Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Kilgour (Secretary of State (Latin America and Africa)) for Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance), seconded by Mr. Mitchell (Secretary of State (Parks)), Bill C-72, An Act to amend the Income Tax Act, to implement measures that are consequential on changes to the Canada-U.S. Tax Convention (1980) and to amend the Income Tax Conventions Interpretation Act, the Old Age Security Act, the War Veterans Allowance Act and certain Acts related to the Income Tax Act, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Recommendation
(Pursuant to Standing Order 79(2)
)

His Excellency the Governor General recommends to the House of Commons the appropriation of public revenue under the circumstances, in the manner and for the purposes set out in a measure entitled ``An Act to amend the Income Tax Act, to implement measures that are consequential on changes to the Canada-U.S. Tax Convention (1980) and to amend the Income Tax Conventions Interpretation Act, the Old Age Security Act, the War Veterans Allowance Act and certain Acts related to the Income Tax Act''.

Presenting Petitions

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were presented as follows:

-- by Mr. Adams (Peterborough), one concerning the situation in the Middle East (No. 361-2179);

-- by Mr. Szabo (Mississauga South), one concerning human rights in Indonesia (No. 361-2180);

-- by Mr. Riis (Kamloops, Thompson and Highland Valleys), one concerning international trade (No. 361-2181).

Questions on Order Paper

Mr. Adams (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) presented the answers to questions Q-170 and Q-172 on the Order Paper.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The Order was read for the consideration of the Business of Supply.

Mr. Reynolds (West Vancouver -- Sunshine Coast), seconded by Mr. White (North Vancouver), moved, -- That, in the opinion of this House, the government has failed to deliver criminal justice programs and laws that reflect the will and concerns of the majority of Canadians, including issues like child pornography, young offenders, impaired driving, conditional sentencing, drug trafficking, home invasions, police funding, consecutive sentencing, corrections facilities and illegal immigration, and as a consequence, have put individual safety, and in some cases national security, in jeopardy.

Debate arose thereon.

STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

ORAL QUESTIONS

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

TABLING OF DOCUMENTS

By unanimous consent, Mr. Marchi (Minister for International Trade) laid upon the Table, -- Document entitled ``Canada -- Measures affecting the export of civilian aircraft'' (English text only). -- Sessional Paper No. 8530-361-38.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Reynolds (West Vancouver -- Sunshine Coast), seconded by Mr. White (North Vancouver), in relation to the Business of Supply.

The debate continued.

At 5:15 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 81(17), the proceedings expired.


Mr. Massé (President of the Treasury Board), seconded by Mr. Collenette (Minister of Transport), moved Motion No. 1, -- That Vote 1c, in the amount of $1,975,500, under PARLIAMENT -- Program Expenditures, in the Supplementary Estimates (C) for the fiscal year ending March 31, 1999, be concurred in.

The question was put on Motion No. 1 and it was agreed to on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 343)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bachand --  (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Bernier --  (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Borotsik -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Brison -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Calder -- Cannis -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Casey -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Chrétien --  (Saint-Maurice) -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Cullen -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Doyle -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Dubé --  (Madawaska -- Restigouche) -- Duhamel -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Harvard -- Harvey -- Herron -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Jones -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Karygiannis -- Keddy --  (South Shore) -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas -- Charlottenburgh) -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lavigne -- Lee -- Leung -- Lincoln -- MacAulay -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marchi -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- Matthews -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- O'Brien --  (Labrador) -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Pickard --  (Chatham -- Kent Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Price -- Proud -- Provenzano -- Redman -- Reed -- Richardson -- Robillard -- Rock -- Saada -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Sekora -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- St-Julien -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Thompson --  (New Brunswick Southwest) -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Volpe -- Wayne -- Whelan -- Wilfert -- Wood -- 161

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Alarie -- Anders -- Asselin -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Benoit -- Bergeron -- Bernier --  (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Blaikie -- Breitkreuz --  (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brien -- Cadman -- Casson -- Chatters -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Davies -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desjarlais -- Desrochers -- Dubé --  (Lévis-et-Chutes-de-la-Chaudière) -- Dumas -- Duncan -- Earle -- Epp -- Forseth -- Gagnon -- Gauthier -- Gilmour -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Guay -- Guimond -- Hardy -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hilstrom -- Hoeppner -- Jaffer -- Johnston -- Kenney --  (Calgary Southeast) -- Kerpan -- Konrad -- Laliberte -- Lalonde -- Laurin -- Lebel -- Lill -- Lowther -- Lunn -- Mark -- Martin --  (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- McDonough -- Mercier -- Meredith -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Nunziata -- Nystrom -- Obhrai -- Pankiw -- Penson -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Proctor -- Ramsay -- Riis -- Ritz -- Robinson -- Sauvageau -- Schmidt -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- Solberg -- Solomon -- St-Hilaire -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Turp -- Vautour -- Vellacott -- Wasylycia-Leis -- White --  (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- 89

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Anderson -- Canuel -- DeVillers -- Duceppe -- Fournier -- Gallaway -- Grose -- Hubbard -- Lefebvre -- Longfield -- Marleau -- Ménard -- Perron -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Venne -- Wappel

Mr. Massé (President of the Treasury Board), seconded by Mr. Gagliano (Minister of Public Works and Government Services), moved Motion No. 2, -- That Vote 1c, in the amount of $12,551,750, under JUSTICE -- Program Expenditures, in the Supplementary Estimates (C) for the fiscal year ending March 31, 1999, be concurred in.

The question was put on Motion No. 2 and it was agreed to on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 344)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alarie -- Alcock -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Asselin -- Augustine -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Bergeron -- Bernier --  (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Brien -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Calder -- Cannis -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Chrétien --  (Saint-Maurice) -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Cullen -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desrochers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Dubé --  (Lévis-et-Chutes-de-la-Chaudière) -- Duhamel -- Dumas -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon -- Gauthier -- Godfrey -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Guarnieri -- Guay -- Guimond -- Harb -- Harvard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Karygiannis -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas -- Charlottenburgh) -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lalonde -- Lastewka -- Laurin -- Lavigne -- Lebel -- Lee -- Leung -- Lincoln -- MacAulay -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marchi -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mercier -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- O'Brien --  (Labrador) -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Pickard --  (Chatham -- Kent Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Plamondon -- Pratt -- Proud -- Provenzano -- Redman -- Reed -- Richardson -- Robillard -- Robinson -- Rock -- Saada -- Sauvageau -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Sekora -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- St-Hilaire -- St-Julien -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Torsney -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Turp -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Volpe -- Whelan -- Wilfert -- Wood -- 173

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Anders -- Bachand --  (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Benoit -- Bernier --  (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Blaikie -- Borotsik -- Breitkreuz --  (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brison -- Cadman -- Casey -- Casson -- Chatters -- Davies -- Desjarlais -- Doyle -- Dubé --  (Madawaska -- Restigouche) -- Duncan -- Earle -- Epp -- Forseth -- Gilmour -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Hardy -- Harvey -- Herron -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hilstrom -- Hoeppner -- Jaffer -- Johnston -- Jones -- Keddy --  (South Shore) -- Kenney --  (Calgary Southeast) -- Kerpan -- Konrad -- Laliberte -- Lill -- Lowther -- Lunn -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Mark -- Martin --  (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- Matthews -- McDonough -- Meredith -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Nunziata -- Nystrom -- Obhrai -- Pankiw -- Penson -- Price -- Proctor -- Ramsay -- Riis -- Ritz -- Schmidt -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- Solberg -- Solomon -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Thompson --  (New Brunswick Southwest) -- Vautour -- Vellacott -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Wayne -- White --  (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- 77

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Anderson -- Canuel -- DeVillers -- Duceppe -- Fournier -- Gallaway -- Grose -- Hubbard -- Lefebvre -- Longfield -- Marleau -- Ménard -- Perron -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Venne -- Wappel

Mr. Massé (President of the Treasury Board), seconded by Mr. Gagliano (Minister of Public Works and Government Services), moved Motion No. 3, -- That Vote 1c, in the amount of $2,740,846, under PRIVY COUNCIL -- Program Expenditures, in the Supplementary Estimates (C) for the fiscal year ending March 31, 1999, be concurred in.

The question was put on Motion No. 3 and it was agreed to on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 345)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Calder -- Cannis -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Chrétien --  (Saint-Maurice) -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Cullen -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Duhamel -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Harvard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Karygiannis -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas -- Charlottenburgh) -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lavigne -- Lee -- Leung -- Lincoln -- MacAulay -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marchi -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- O'Brien --  (Labrador) -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Pickard --  (Chatham -- Kent Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Proud -- Provenzano -- Redman -- Reed -- Richardson -- Robillard -- Rock -- Saada -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Sekora -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- St-Julien -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Volpe -- Whelan -- Wilfert -- Wood -- 145

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Alarie -- Anders -- Asselin -- Bachand --  (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Benoit -- Bergeron -- Bernier --  (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Bernier --  (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Blaikie -- Borotsik -- Breitkreuz --  (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brien -- Brison -- Cadman -- Casey -- Casson -- Chatters -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Davies -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desjarlais -- Desrochers -- Doyle -- Dubé --  (Lévis-et-Chutes-de-la-Chaudière) -- Dubé --  (Madawaska -- Restigouche) -- Dumas -- Duncan -- Earle -- Epp -- Forseth -- Gagnon -- Gauthier -- Gilmour -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Guay -- Guimond -- Hardy -- Harvey -- Herron -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hilstrom -- Hoeppner -- Jaffer -- Johnston -- Jones -- Keddy --  (South Shore) -- Kenney --  (Calgary Southeast) -- Kerpan -- Konrad -- Laliberte -- Lalonde -- Laurin -- Lebel -- Lill -- Lowther -- Lunn -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Mark -- Martin --  (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- Matthews -- McDonough -- Mercier -- Meredith -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Nunziata -- Nystrom -- Obhrai -- Pankiw -- Penson -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Price -- Proctor -- Ramsay -- Riis -- Ritz -- Robinson -- Sauvageau -- Schmidt -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- Solberg -- Solomon -- St-Hilaire -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Thompson --  (New Brunswick Southwest) -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Turp -- Vautour -- Vellacott -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Wayne -- White --  (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- 105

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Anderson -- Canuel -- DeVillers -- Duceppe -- Fournier -- Gallaway -- Grose -- Hubbard -- Lefebvre -- Longfield -- Marleau -- Ménard -- Perron -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Venne -- Wappel

Mr. Massé (President of the Treasury Board), seconded by Mr. Gagliano (Minister of Public Works and Government Services), moved,

-- That the Supplementary Estimates (C) for the fiscal year ending March 31, 1999, except any Vote disposed of earlier today, be concurred in.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:

(Division No. 346)
YEAS: 145, NAYS: 105. (See list under Division No. 345)


Pursuant to Standing Orders 81(21) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Massé (President of the Treasury Board), seconded by Mr. Gagliano (Minister of Public Works and Government Services), Bill C-73, An Act for granting to Her Majesty certain sums of money for the public service of Canada for the financial year ending March 31, 1999, was read the first time and ordered to be printed.

Mr. Massé (President of the Treasury Board), seconded by Mr. Gagliano (Minister of Public Works and Government Services), moved, -- That the Bill be now read a second time and referred to a Committee of the Whole.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:

(Division No. 347)
YEAS: 145, NAYS 105. (See list under Division No. 345)

Accordingly, the Bill was read the second time and referred to a Committee of the Whole.

The Committee considered the Bill and reported it without amendment.

Pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(12), Mr. Massé (President of the Treasury Board), seconded by Mr. Gagliano (Minister of Public Works and Government Services), moved, -- That the Bill be concurred in at report stage.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 348)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Calder -- Cannis -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Chrétien --  (Saint-Maurice) -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Cullen -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Duhamel -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Harvard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Karygiannis -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas -- Charlottenburgh) -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lavigne -- Lee -- Leung -- Lincoln -- MacAulay -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marchi -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- O'Brien --  (Labrador) -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Pickard --  (Chatham -- Kent Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Proud -- Provenzano -- Redman -- Reed -- Richardson -- Robillard -- Rock -- Saada -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Sekora -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- St-Julien -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Volpe -- Whelan -- Wilfert -- Wood -- 145

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Alarie -- Anders -- Asselin -- Bachand --  (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Benoit -- Bergeron -- Bernier --  (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Bernier --  (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Blaikie -- Borotsik -- Breitkreuz --  (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brien -- Brison -- Cadman -- Casey -- Casson -- Chatters -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Davies -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desjarlais -- Desrochers -- Dockrill -- Doyle -- Dubé --  (Lévis-et-Chutes-de-la-Chaudière) -- Dubé --  (Madawaska -- Restigouche) -- Dumas -- Duncan -- Earle -- Epp -- Forseth -- Gagnon -- Gauthier -- Gilmour -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Guay -- Guimond -- Hardy -- Harvey -- Herron -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hilstrom -- Hoeppner -- Jaffer -- Johnston -- Jones -- Keddy --  (South Shore) -- Kenney --  (Calgary Southeast) -- Kerpan -- Konrad -- Laliberte -- Lalonde -- Laurin -- Lebel -- Lill -- Lowther -- Lunn -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Mark -- Martin --  (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- Matthews -- McDonough -- Mercier -- Meredith -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Nunziata -- Nystrom -- Obhrai -- Pankiw -- Penson -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Price -- Proctor -- Ramsay -- Riis -- Ritz -- Robinson -- Sauvageau -- Schmidt -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- Solberg -- Solomon -- St-Hilaire -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Thompson --  (New Brunswick Southwest) -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Turp -- Vautour -- Vellacott -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Wayne -- White --  (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- 106

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Anderson -- Canuel -- DeVillers -- Duceppe -- Fournier -- Gallaway -- Grose -- Hubbard -- Lefebvre -- Longfield -- Marleau -- Ménard -- Perron -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Venne -- Wappel

Accordingly, the Bill was concurred in at report stage.

Mr. Massé (President of the Treasury Board), seconded by Mr. Gagliano (Minister of Public Works and Government Services), moved, -- That the Bill be now read a third time and do pass.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 349)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Calder -- Cannis -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Chrétien --  (Saint-Maurice) -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Cullen -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Duhamel -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Harvard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Karygiannis -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas -- Charlottenburgh) -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lavigne -- Lee -- Leung -- Lincoln -- MacAulay -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marchi -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- O'Brien --  (Labrador) -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Pickard --  (Chatham -- Kent Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Proud -- Provenzano -- Redman -- Reed -- Richardson -- Robillard -- Rock -- Saada -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Sekora -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- St-Julien -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Volpe -- Whelan -- Wilfert -- Wood -- 145

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Alarie -- Anders -- Asselin -- Bachand --  (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Benoit -- Bergeron -- Bernier --  (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Bernier --  (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Blaikie -- Borotsik -- Breitkreuz --  (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brien -- Brison -- Cadman -- Casey -- Casson -- Chatters -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Davies -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desjarlais -- Desrochers -- Dockrill -- Doyle -- Dubé --  (Lévis-et-Chutes-de-la-Chaudière) -- Dubé --  (Madawaska -- Restigouche) -- Dumas -- Duncan -- Earle -- Epp -- Forseth -- Gagnon -- Gauthier -- Gilmour -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Guay -- Guimond -- Hardy -- Harvey -- Herron -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hilstrom -- Hoeppner -- Jaffer -- Johnston -- Jones -- Keddy --  (South Shore) -- Kenney --  (Calgary Southeast) -- Kerpan -- Konrad -- Laliberte -- Lalonde -- Laurin -- Lebel -- Lill -- Lowther -- Lunn -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Mark -- Martin --  (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- Matthews -- McDonough -- Mercier -- Meredith -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Nunziata -- Nystrom -- Obhrai -- Pankiw -- Penson -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Price -- Proctor -- Ramsay -- Riis -- Ritz -- Robinson -- Sauvageau -- Schmidt -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- Solberg -- Solomon -- St-Hilaire -- Stinson -- St-Jacques -- Strahl -- Thompson --  (New Brunswick Southwest) -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Turp -- Vautour -- Vellacott -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Wayne -- White --  (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- 107

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Anderson -- Canuel -- DeVillers -- Duceppe -- Fournier -- Gallaway -- Grose -- Hubbard -- Lefebvre -- Longfield -- Marleau -- Ménard -- Perron -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Venne -- Wappel

Accordingly, the Bill was read the third time and passed.


Mr. Massé (President of the Treasury Board), seconded by Mr. Gagliano (Minister of Public Works and Government Services), moved, -- That this House do concur in Interim Supply as follows:

That a sum not exceeding $13,825,965,402.19, being composed of:

(1) three-twelfths ($7,905,805,057.50) of the total of the amounts of the items set forth in the Main Estimates for the fiscal year ending March 31, 2000, which were laid upon the Table Monday, March 1, 1999, and except for those items below:

(2) eleven-twelfths of the total of the amount of Canadian Heritage Vote 120, Finance Vote L15, Foreign Affairs and International Trade Vote 15, and Treasury Board Vote 5 (Schedule 1) of the said Estimates, $533,508,250.00;

(3) ten-twelfths of the total of the amount of Fisheries and Oceans Vote 10 (Schedule 2) of the said Estimates, $227,395,833.33;

(4) nine-twelfths of the total of the amount of Parliament Vote 10 (Schedule 3) of the said Estimates, $13,432,500.00;

(5) seven-twelfths of the total of the amount of Canadian Heritage Vote 70, Finance Vote 20, and Human Resources Development Vote 35 (Schedule 4) of the said Estimates, $763,144,083.33;

(6) six-twelfths of the total of the amount of Canadian Heritage Votes 20 and 135, Industry Vote 50, and Justice Vote 15 (Schedule 5) of the said Estimates, $64,698,500.00;

(7) five-twelfths of the total of the amount of Canadian Heritage Vote 65, Foreign Affairs and International Trade Vote 5, Health Vote 10, Indian Affairs and Northern Development Vote 15, Industry Vote 40, Justice Vote 1, Public Works and Government Services Vote 10, Solicitor General Vote 5 and Transport Vote 1 (Schedule 6) of the said Estimates, $1,848,579,250.00;

(8) four-twelfths of the total of the amount of Canadian Heritage Votes 25, 40, and 50, Citizenship and Immigration Vote 10, Environment Vote 1, Health Votes 1 and 5, Human Resources Development Votes 10 and 25, Indian Affairs and Northern Development Votes 35 and 40, Industry Votes 30, 35 90, 95, 100 and 110, Natural Resources Vote L10, Privy Council Votes 15 and 35, Public Works and Government Services Votes 1 and 15, Treasury Board Vote 15 (Schedule 7) of the said Estimates, $2,469,401,928.03;

be granted to Her Majesty on account of the fiscal year ending March 31, 2000.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:

(Divison No. 350)
YEAS: 145, NAYS: 107. (See list under Division No. 349)


Pursuant to Standing Orders 81(21) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Massé (President of the Treasury Board), seconded by Mr. Gagliano (Minister of Public Works and Government Services), Bill C-74, An Act for granting to Her Majesty certain sums of money for the public service of Canada for the financial year ending March 31, 2000, was read the first time and ordered to be printed.

Mr. Massé (President of the Treasury Board), seconded by Mr. Gagliano (Minister of Public Works and Government Services), moved, -- That the Bill be now read a second time and referred to a Committee of the Whole.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:

(Division No. 351)
YEAS: 145, NAYS: 107. (See list under Division No. 349)

Accordingly, the Bill was read the second time and referred to a Committee of the Whole.

The Committee considered the Bill and reported it without amendment.

Pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(12), Mr. Massé (President of the Treasury Board), seconded by Mr. Gagliano (Minister of Public Works and Government Services), moved, -- That the Bill be concurred in at report stage.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 352)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Calder -- Cannis -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Chrétien --  (Saint-Maurice) -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Cullen -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Duhamel -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Harvard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Karygiannis -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas -- Charlottenburgh) -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lavigne -- Lee -- Leung -- Lincoln -- MacAulay -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marchi -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- O'Brien --  (Labrador) -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Pickard --  (Chatham -- Kent Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Proud -- Provenzano -- Redman -- Reed -- Richardson -- Robillard -- Rock -- Saada -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Sekora -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- St-Julien -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Volpe -- Whelan -- Wilfert -- Wood -- 144

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Alarie -- Anders -- Asselin -- Bachand --  (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Benoit -- Bergeron -- Bernier --  (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Bernier --  (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Blaikie -- Borotsik -- Breitkreuz --  (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brien -- Brison -- Cadman -- Casey -- Casson -- Chatters -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Davies -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desjarlais -- Desrochers -- Dockrill -- Doyle -- Dubé --  (Lévis-et-Chutes-de-la-Chaudière) -- Dubé --  (Madawaska -- Restigouche) -- Dumas -- Duncan -- Earle -- Epp -- Forseth -- Gagnon -- Gauthier -- Gilmour -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Guay -- Guimond -- Hardy -- Harvey -- Herron -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hilstrom -- Hoeppner -- Jaffer -- Johnston -- Jones -- Keddy --  (South Shore) -- Kenney --  (Calgary Southeast) -- Kerpan -- Konrad -- Laliberte -- Lalonde -- Laurin -- Lebel -- Lill -- Lowther -- Lunn -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Mark -- Martin --  (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- Matthews -- McDonough -- Mercier -- Meredith -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Nunziata -- Nystrom -- Obhrai -- Pankiw -- Penson -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Price -- Proctor -- Ramsay -- Riis -- Ritz -- Robinson -- Sauvageau -- Schmidt -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- Solberg -- Solomon -- St-Hilaire -- Stinson -- St-Jacques -- Strahl -- Thompson --  (New Brunswick Southwest) -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Turp -- Vautour -- Vellacott -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Wayne -- White --  (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- 107

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Anderson -- Canuel -- DeVillers -- Duceppe -- Fournier -- Gallaway -- Grose -- Hubbard -- Lefebvre -- Longfield -- Marleau -- Ménard -- Perron -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Venne -- Wappel

Accordingly, the Bill was concurred in at report stage.

Mr. Massé (President of the Treasury Board), seconded by Mr. Gagliano (Minister of Public Works and Government Services), moved, -- That the Bill be now read a third time and do pass.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:

(Division No. 353)
YEAS: 144, NAYS: 107. (See list under Division No. 352)

Accordingly, the Bill was read the third time and passed.

MESSAGES FROM THE SENATE

A message was received from the Senate as follows:

-- ORDERED: That a message be sent to the House of Commons to acquaint that House that the Senate has passed Bill S-23, An Act to amend the Carriage by Air Act to give effect to a Protocol to amend the Convention for the Unification of Certain Rules Relating to International Carriage by Air and to give effect to the Convention, Supplementary to the Warsaw Convention, for the Unification of Certain Rules Relating to International Carriage by Air Performed by a Person Other than the Contracting Carrier.

PRIVATE MEMBERS' BUSINESS

At 6:20 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 30(7), the House proceeded to the consideration of Private Members' Business.

Ms. Hardy (Yukon), seconded by Mr. Martin (Winnipeg Centre), moved, -- That a legislative committee be established to prepare and bring a bill, in accordance with Standing Order 68(4)(b), to abolish the legal defence of provocation contained in Section 232 of the Criminal Code of Canada. (Private Members' Business M-265)

Debate arose thereon.

Pursuant to Standing Order 93, the Order was dropped to the bottom of the order of precedence on the Order Paper.

MESSAGES FROM THE SENATE

A message was received from the Senate as follows:

-- ORDERED: That a message be sent to the House of Commons to acquaint that House that the Senate has passed Bill C-208, An Act to amend the Access to Information Act, without amendment.

PROCEEDINGS ON ADJOURNMENT MOTION

At 7:21 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 38(1), the question ``That this House do now adjourn'' was deemed to have been proposed.

After debate, the question was deemed to have been adopted.

ADJOURNMENT

At 7:43 p.m., the Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow at 2:00 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).