PRAYERS

DAILY ROUTINE OF BUSINESS

Introduction of Private Members' Bills

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Gouk (West Kootenay -- Okanagan), seconded by Mr. Schmidt (Kelowna), Bill C-267, An Act to amend the Canada Health Act (conditions for contributions), was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Presenting Petitions

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were presented as follows:

-- by Mr. Schmidt (Kelowna), one concerning the Divorce Act (No. 361-0118);

-- by Mr. Earle (Halifax West), two concerning aboriginal affairs (Nos. 361- 0119 and 361-0120).

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The Order was read for the second reading and reference to the Standing Committee on Aboriginal Affairs and Northern Development of Bill C-8, An Act respecting an accord between the Governments of Canada and the Yukon Territory relating to the administration and control of and legislative jurisdiction in respect of oil and gas.

Mr. Kilgour (Secretary of State (Latin America and Africa)) for Mrs. Stewart (Minister of Indian Affairs and Northern Development), seconded by Mr. Peterson (Secretary of State (International Financial Institutions)), moved, -- That the Bill be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Aboriginal Affairs and Northern Development.

Debate arose thereon.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to.

Accordingly, the Bill was read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Aboriginal Affairs and Northern Development.

The Order was read for the second reading and reference to the Standing Committee on Aboriginal Affairs and Northern Development of Bill C-6, An Act to provide for an integrated system of land and water management in the Mackenzie Valley, to establish certain boards for that purpose and to make consequential amendments to other Acts.

Mr. Kilgour (Secretary of State (Latin America and Africa)) for Mrs. Stewart (Minister of Indian Affairs and Northern Development), seconded by Mr. Peterson (Secretary of State (International Financial Institutions)), moved, -- That the Bill be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Aboriginal Affairs and Northern Development.

Debate arose thereon.

STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

ORAL QUESTIONS

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mrs. Stewart (Minister of Indian Affairs and Northern Development), seconded by Mr. Peterson (Secretary of State (International Financial Institutions)), -- That Bill C-6, An Act to provide for an integrated system of land and water management in the Mackenzie Valley, to establish certain boards for that purpose and to make consequential amendments to other Acts, be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Aboriginal Affairs and Northern Development.

The debate continued.

TABLING OF DOCUMENTS

By unanimous consent, Mr. Scott (Solicitor General of Canada) laid upon the Table, -- Joint Statement by the Union of Solicitor General Employees and the Correctional Service of Canada, dated October 24, 1997. -- Sessional Paper No. 8530-361-3.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mrs. Stewart (Minister of Indian Affairs and Northern Development), seconded by Mr. Peterson (Secretary of State (International Financial Institutions)), -- That Bill C-6, An Act to provide for an integrated system of land and water management in the Mackenzie Valley, to establish certain boards for that purpose and to make consequential amendments to other Acts, be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Aboriginal Affairs and Northern Development.

The debate continued.

QUORUM

The attention of the Speaker was drawn to the lack of a quorum and, fewer than 20 members having been counted, pursuant to Standing Order 29(3), the bells were rung to call in the Members.

After one minute, a quorum was found.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mrs. Stewart (Minister of Indian Affairs and Northern Development), seconded by Mr. Peterson (Secretary of State (International Financial Institutions)), -- That Bill C-6, An Act to provide for an integrated system of land and water management in the Mackenzie Valley, to establish certain boards for that purpose and to make consequential amendments to other Acts, be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Aboriginal Affairs and Northern Development.

The debate continued.

At 5:30 p.m., pursuant to Order made Thursday, October 23, 1997, the House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Charest (Sherbrooke), seconded by Mrs. Wayne (Saint John)), -- That this House recognize the urgent need for action to address the serious problems in Canadian fisheries on both the Pacific and Atlantic coasts, and calls upon the government to establish a comprehensive national fisheries policy that demonstrates real commitment to resource conservation, leadership on the issue of resource sharing with foreign interests, and sensitivity to the individuals, families and communities whose futures are linked to the health and sustainability of the Canadian fishing industry.

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the amendment of Mr. Easter (Malpeque), seconded by Mr. Cullen (Etobicoke North), -- That the motion be amended by deleting the word ``establish'' and substituting the following therefor:

``continue the implementation of''.

The question was put on the amendment and it was agreed to on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 17)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Anderson -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Calder -- Cannis -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Chrétien --  (Saint-Maurice) -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Cullen -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Duhamel -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gallaway -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Grose -- Harb -- Harvard -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Karygiannis -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Lastewka -- Lavigne -- Lee -- Leung -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- MacAulay -- Mahoney -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marchi -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Normand -- O'Brien --  (Labrador) -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Pickard --  (Kent -- Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Proud -- Provenzano -- Redman -- Reed -- Richardson -- Robillard -- Rock -- Saada -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- St-Julien -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Volpe -- Wappel -- Whelan -- Wilfert -- Wood -- 148

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Alarie -- Anders -- Asselin -- Axworthy --  (Saskatoon -- Rosetown -- Biggar) -- Bachand --  (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Bailey -- Bellehumeur -- Benoit -- Bergeron -- Bernier --  (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Bigras -- Blaikie -- Borotsik -- Breitkreuz --  (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brien -- Brison -- Cadman -- Canuel -- Casey -- Casson -- Charest -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Crête -- Cummins -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Davies -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desjarlais -- Desrochers -- Dockrill -- Doyle -- Dubé --  (Lévis) -- Dubé --  (Madawaska -- Restigouche) -- Duceppe -- Duncan -- Earle -- Elley -- Epp -- Forseth -- Fournier -- Gagnon -- Gauthier -- Girard-Bujold -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Goldring -- Gouk -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Guay -- Guimond -- Hanger -- Hardy -- Harris -- Hart -- Harvey -- Herron -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hilstrom -- Hoeppner -- Jaffer -- Johnston -- Jones -- Keddy --  (South Shore) -- Kenney --  (Calgary-Sud-Est) -- Kerpan -- Konrad -- Laliberte -- Lalonde -- Laurin -- Lebel -- Lefebvre -- Loubier -- Lowther -- Lunn -- Mancini -- Manning -- Marceau -- Marchand -- Mark -- Martin --  (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Matthews -- Mayfield -- McDonough -- McNally -- Ménard -- Meredith -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Muise -- Nunziata -- Nystrom -- Obhrai -- Pankiw -- Penson -- Perron -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Power -- Price -- Proctor -- Ramsay -- Reynolds -- Riis -- Ritz -- Robinson -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Schmidt -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- Solberg -- Solomon -- Stinson -- Stoffer -- Strahl -- Thompson --  (Charlotte) -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Turp -- Vautour -- Vellacott -- Venne -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Wayne -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- Williams -- 132

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Dumas -- Malhi -- Marleau -- Mercier -- Milliken -- St-Hilaire

Pursuant to Standing Order 81(16), the House proceeded to the putting of the question on the main motion, as amended, of Mr. Charest (Sherbrooke), seconded by Mrs. Wayne (Saint John), -- That this House recognize the urgent need for action to address the serious problems in Canadian fisheries on both the Pacific and Atlantic coasts, and calls upon the government to continue the implementation of a comprehensive national fisheries policy that demonstrates real commitment to resource conservation, leadership on the issue of resource sharing with foreign interests, and sensitivity to the individuals, families and communities whose futures are linked to the health and sustainability of the Canadian fishing industry.

The question was put on the main motion, as amended, and it was agreed to on the following division:

YEAS:148, NAYS: 132. (See list under Division No. 17)

Pursuant to Order made Friday, October 24, 1997, the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the motion of Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance), seconded by Mr. Kilgour (Secretary of State (Latin America and Africa)), -- That Bill C-11, An Act respecting the imposition of duties of customs and other charges, to give effect to the International Convention on the Harmonized Commodity Description and Coding System, to provide relief against the imposition of certain duties of customs or other charges, to provide for other related matters and to amend or repeal certain Acts in consequence thereof, be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Industry.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 18)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Adams -- Alarie -- Alcock -- Anders -- Anderson -- Assadourian -- Asselin -- Augustine -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bachand --  (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Bailey -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellehumeur -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Benoit -- Bergeron -- Bernier --  (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Bigras -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Borotsik -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Breitkreuz --  (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brien -- Brison -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Cadman -- Calder -- Cannis -- Canuel -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Casey -- Casson -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Charest -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Chrétien --  (Saint-Maurice) -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Crête -- Cullen -- Cummins -- Dalphond-Guiral -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desrochers -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Doyle -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Dubé --  (Lévis) -- Dubé --  (Madawaska -- Restigouche) -- Duceppe -- Duhamel -- Duncan -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Elley -- Epp -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Forseth -- Fournier -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon -- Gallaway -- Gauthier -- Girard-Bujold -- Godfrey -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Goldring -- Goodale -- Gouk -- Graham -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Grose -- Guay -- Guimond -- Hanger -- Harb -- Harris -- Hart -- Harvard -- Harvey -- Herron -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hilstrom -- Hoeppner -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jaffer -- Jennings -- Johnston -- Jones -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Karygiannis -- Keddy --  (South Shore) -- Kenney --  (Calgary-Sud-Est) -- Kerpan -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Konrad -- Lalonde -- Lastewka -- Laurin -- Lavigne -- Lebel -- Lee -- Lefebvre -- Leung -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- Loubier -- Lowther -- Lunn -- MacAulay -- Mahoney -- Maloney -- Manley -- Manning -- Marceau -- Marchand -- Marchi -- Mark -- Martin --  (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- Matthews -- Mayfield -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McNally -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Ménard -- Meredith -- Mifflin -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Morrison -- Muise -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Normand -- Nunziata -- Obhrai -- O'Brien --  (Labrador) -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Pankiw -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Penson -- Peric -- Perron -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Pickard --  (Kent -- Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Plamondon -- Power -- Pratt -- Price -- Proud -- Provenzano -- Ramsay -- Redman -- Reed -- Reynolds -- Richardson -- Ritz -- Robillard -- Rocheleau -- Rock -- Saada -- Sauvageau -- Schmidt -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Solberg -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- Stinson -- St-Julien -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Thompson --  (Charlotte) -- Torsney -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Turp -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Vellacott -- Venne -- Volpe -- Wappel -- Wayne -- Whelan -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- Wilfert -- Williams -- Wood -- 261

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Axworthy --  (Saskatoon -- Rosetown -- Biggar) -- Blaikie -- Davies -- Desjarlais -- Dockrill -- Earle -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Hardy -- Laliberte -- Mancini -- McDonough -- Nystrom -- Proctor -- Riis -- Robinson -- Solomon -- Stoffer -- Vautour -- Wasylycia-Leis -- 19

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Dumas -- Malhi -- Marleau -- Mercier -- Milliken -- St-Hilaire

Accordingly, the Bill was read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Industry.

Pursuant to Order made Monday, October 27, 1997, the House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Dion (Minister of Intergovernmental Affairs), seconded by Mrs. Stewart (Minister of the Environment), --

That a Special Joint Committee of the Senate and the House of Commons be appointed to consider matters related to the proposed resolution respecting a proposed Amendment to Term 17 of the Terms of Union of Newfoundland with Canada concerning the Newfoundland school system;

That sixteen Members of the House of Commons and seven Members of the Senate be members of the Committee;

That the Committee be directed to consult broadly and review such information as it deems appropriate with respect to this issue;

That the Committee have the power to sit during sittings and adjournments of the House;

That the Committee have the power to report from time to time, to send for persons, papers and records, and to print such papers and evidence as may be ordered by the Committee;

That the Committee have the power to hear witnesses via video conferencing;

That the Committee have the power to retain the services of expert, professional, technical and clerical staff;

That the quorum of the Committee be twelve members whenever a vote, resolution or other decision is taken, so long as both Houses are represented, and that the Joint Chairpersons be authorized to hold meetings, to receive evidence and authorize the printing thereof, whenever six members are present, so long as both Houses are represented;

That the Committee have the power to appoint, from among its members, such sub-committees as may be deemed advisable, and to delegate to such sub-committees all or any of its power, except the power to report to the Senate and House of Commons;

That the Committee have the power to authorize television and radio broadcasting of any or all of its proceedings;

That the Committee present its final report no later than December 5, 1997;

That, notwithstanding usual practices, if the House or the Senate are not sitting when the final report of the Committee is completed, the report may be deposited with the Clerk of the House which is not sitting, or the Clerks of both Houses if neither House is then sitting, and the report shall thereupon be deemed to have been presented in that House, or both Houses, as the case may be; and

That a Message be sent to the Senate requesting that House to unite with this House for the above purpose, and to select, if the Senate deems it advisable, Members to act on the proposed Special Joint Committee. (Government Business No. 5)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the amendment of Mr. Manning (Calgary Southwest), seconded by Miss Grey (Edmonton North), -- That the motion be amended

(a) by replacing the words: ``Special Joint Committee of the Senate and the House of Commons'' in the first paragraph with the words: ``Special Committee of the House of Commons'';

(b) by adding immediately after the words: ``concerning the Newfoundland school system;'' the following: ``more specifically, the matter of applying the following three tests for such a proposed constitutional amendment:

1. The Test of Democratic Consent,

2. The Test of Canadian National Interest, and

3. The Test of the Rule of Law;''

(c) by deleting the words: ``and seven Members of the Senate'' in the second paragraph;

(d) by inserting after the word ``Committee'' in the sixth paragraph the words: ``be directed and authorized to hold hearings in Newfoundland and'';

(e) by replacing all the words in the eighth paragraph with the following: ``That the quorum of the committee be nine members whenever a vote, resolution or other decision is taken, and that the Chairperson be authorized to hold meetings, to receive evidence and authorize the printing thereof, whenever six members are present;'';

(f) by deleting the words ``Senate and'' in the ninth paragraph;

(g) by replacing all the words in the twelfth paragraph with the following: ``That, notwithstanding usual practices, if the House is not sitting when the final report of the committee is completed, the report may be deposited with the Clerk of the House, and the report shall thereupon be deemed to have been presented to the House;''; and

(h) by deleting all the words in the last paragraph.

The question was put on the amendment and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 19)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Anders -- Axworthy --  (Saskatoon -- Rosetown -- Biggar) -- Bailey -- Benoit -- Blaikie -- Breitkreuz --  (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Cadman -- Casson -- Cummins -- Davies -- Desjarlais -- Dockrill -- Duncan -- Earle -- Elley -- Epp -- Forseth -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Goldring -- Gouk -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Hanger -- Hardy -- Harris -- Hart -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hilstrom -- Hoeppner -- Jaffer -- Johnston -- Kenney --  (Calgary-Sud-Est) -- Kerpan -- Konrad -- Laliberte -- Lowther -- Lunn -- Mancini -- Manning -- Mark -- Martin --  (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Mayfield -- McDonough -- McNally -- Meredith -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Nunziata -- Nystrom -- Obhrai -- Pankiw -- Penson -- Proctor -- Ramsay -- Reynolds -- Riis -- Ritz -- Robinson -- Schmidt -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- Solberg -- Solomon -- Stinson -- Stoffer -- Strahl -- Vautour -- Vellacott -- Wasylycia-Leis -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- Williams -- 74

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alarie -- Alcock -- Anderson -- Assadourian -- Asselin -- Augustine -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bachand --  (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellehumeur -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Bergeron -- Bernier --  (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Bigras -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Borotsik -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Brien -- Brison -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Calder -- Cannis -- Canuel -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Casey -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Charest -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Chrétien --  (Saint-Maurice) -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Crête -- Cullen -- Dalphond-Guiral -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desrochers -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Doyle -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Dubé --  (Lévis) -- Dubé --  (Madawaska -- Restigouche) -- Duceppe -- Duhamel -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Fournier -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon -- Gallaway -- Gauthier -- Girard-Bujold -- Godfrey -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Grose -- Guay -- Guimond -- Harb -- Harvard -- Harvey -- Herron -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Jones -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Karygiannis -- Keddy --  (South Shore) -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Lalonde -- Lastewka -- Laurin -- Lavigne -- Lebel -- Lee -- Lefebvre -- Leung -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- Loubier -- MacAulay -- Mahoney -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marceau -- Marchand -- Marchi -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- Matthews -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Ménard -- Mifflin -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Muise -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Normand -- O'Brien --  (Labrador) -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Peric -- Perron -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Pickard --  (Kent -- Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Plamondon -- Power -- Pratt -- Price -- Proud -- Provenzano -- Redman -- Reed -- Richardson -- Robillard -- Rocheleau -- Rock -- Saada -- Sauvageau -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- St-Julien -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Thompson --  (Charlotte) -- Torsney -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Turp -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Venne -- Volpe -- Wappel -- Wayne -- Whelan -- Wilfert -- Wood -- 206

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Dumas -- Malhi -- Marleau -- Mercier -- Milliken -- St-Hilaire

Pursuant to Order made Monday, October 27, 1997, the House proceeded to the putting of the question on the main motion of Mr. Dion (Minister of Intergovernmental Affairs), seconded by Mrs. Stewart (Minister of the Environment).

The question was put on the main motion and it was agreed to on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 20)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alarie -- Alcock -- Anderson -- Assadourian -- Asselin -- Augustine -- Axworthy --  (Saskatoon -- Rosetown -- Biggar) -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bachand --  (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellehumeur -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Bergeron -- Bernier --  (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Bigras -- Blaikie -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Borotsik -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Brien -- Brison -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Calder -- Cannis -- Canuel -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Casey -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Charest -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Chrétien --  (Saint-Maurice) -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Crête -- Cullen -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Davies -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desjarlais -- Desrochers -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dockrill -- Doyle -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Dubé --  (Lévis) -- Dubé --  (Madawaska -- Restigouche) -- Duceppe -- Duhamel -- Earle -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Fournier -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon -- Gallaway -- Gauthier -- Girard-Bujold -- Godfrey -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Grose -- Guay -- Guimond -- Harb -- Hardy -- Harvard -- Harvey -- Herron -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Jones -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Karygiannis -- Keddy --  (South Shore) -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Laliberte -- Lalonde -- Lastewka -- Laurin -- Lavigne -- Lebel -- Lee -- Lefebvre -- Leung -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- Loubier -- MacAulay -- Mahoney -- Maloney -- Mancini -- Manley -- Marceau -- Marchand -- Marchi -- Martin --  (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- Matthews -- McCormick -- McDonough -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Ménard -- Mifflin -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Muise -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Normand -- Nunziata -- Nystrom -- O'Brien --  (Labrador) -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Peric -- Perron -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Pickard --  (Kent -- Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Plamondon -- Power -- Pratt -- Price -- Proctor -- Proud -- Provenzano -- Redman -- Reed -- Richardson -- Riis -- Robillard -- Robinson -- Rocheleau -- Rock -- Saada -- Sauvageau -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Solomon -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- St-Julien -- Stoffer -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Thompson --  (Charlotte) -- Torsney -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Turp -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Vautour -- Venne -- Volpe -- Wappel -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Wayne -- Whelan -- Wilfert -- Wood -- 227

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Anders -- Bailey -- Benoit -- Breitkreuz --  (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Cadman -- Casson -- Cummins -- Duncan -- Elley -- Epp -- Forseth -- Goldring -- Gouk -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Hanger -- Harris -- Hart -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hilstrom -- Hoeppner -- Jaffer -- Johnston -- Kenney --  (Calgary-Sud-Est) -- Kerpan -- Konrad -- Lowther -- Lunn -- Manning -- Mark -- Mayfield -- McNally -- Meredith -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Obhrai -- Pankiw -- Penson -- Ramsay -- Reynolds -- Ritz -- Schmidt -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- Solberg -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Vellacott -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- Williams -- 53

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Dumas -- Malhi -- Marleau -- Mercier -- Milliken -- St-Hilaire

PRIVATE MEMBERS' BUSINESS

At 6:24 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 30(7), the House proceeded to the consideration of Private Members' Business.

Mr. Johnston (Wetaskiwin), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yellowhead), moved, -- That, in the opinion of this House, the government should not reinstate the wage schedules under the Fair Wages and Hours of Labour Act, but allow the provincial wages and hours to prevail. (Private Members' Business M-9)

Debate arose thereon.

Pursuant to Standing Order 96(1), the Order was dropped from the Order Paper.

MESSAGES FROM THE SENATE

A message was received from the Senate as follows:

-- RESOLVED: That a special Joint Committee of the Senate and the House of Commons be appointed to examine and analyze issues relating to custody and access arrangements after separation and divorce, and in particular, to assess the need for a more child-centred approach to family law policies and practices that would emphasize joint parental responsibilities and child-focused parenting arrangements based on children's needs and best interests;

That seven Members of the Senate and sixteen Members of the House of Commons be members of the Committee with two Joint Chairpersons;

That changes in the membership, on the part of the House of Commons of the Committee be effective immediately after a notification signed by the member acting as the chief Whip of any recognized party has been filed with the clerk of the Committee;

That the Committee be directed to consult broadly, examine relevant research studies and literature and review models being used or developed in other jurisdictions;

That the Committee have the power to sit during sittings and adjournments of the Senate;

That the Committee have the power to report from time to time, to send for persons, papers and records, and to print such papers and evidence as may be ordered by the Committee;

That the Committee have the power to retain the services of expert, professional, technical and clerical staff, including legal counsel;

That a quorum of the Committee be twelve members whenever a vote, resolution or other decision is taken so long as both Houses are represented and the Joint Chairpersons will be authorized to hold meetings, to receive evidence and authorize the printing thereof, whenever six members are present, so long as both Houses are represented;

That the Committee be empowered to appoint, from among its members, such subcommittees as may be deemed advisable, and to delegate to such subcommittees, all or any of its power except the power to report to the Senate and House of Commons;

That the Committee be empowered to adjourn from place to place within and outside Canada.

That the Committee be empowered to authorize television and radio broadcasting of any or all of its proceedings;

That the Committee make its final report no later than November 30, 1998.

ORDERED: That a Message be sent to the House of Commons to acquaint that House accordingly.

RETURNS AND REPORTS DEPOSITED WITH THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(1), papers deposited with the Clerk of the House were laid upon the Table as follows:

-- by Mr. Duhamel (Secretary of State (Western Economic Diversification)) -- Reports of the Department of Western Economic Diversification for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1997, pursuant to the Access to Information Act and to the Privacy Act, R. S. 1985, c. A-1 and P-21, sbs. 72(2). -- Sessional Paper No. 8561-361-560. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights)

-- by Mr. Massé (President of the Treasury Board) -- Public Accounts of Canada for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1997, as follows:

(1) Volume I -- Summary Report and Financial Statements,

(2) Volume II, Part I -- Details of Expenditures and Revenues,

(3) Volume II, Part II -- Additional Information and Analyses,

pursuant to the Financial Administration Act, R.S. 1985, c. F-11, sbs. 64(1). -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-361-214. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Public Accounts)

PROCEEDINGS ON ADJOURNMENT MOTION

At 7:08 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 38(1), the question "That this House do now adjourn" was deemed to have been proposed.

After debate, the question was deemed to have been adopted.

ADJOURNMENT

At 7:22 p.m., the Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow at 2:00 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).