PRAYERS

NATIONAL ANTHEM

STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

ORAL QUESTIONS

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

DAILY ROUTINE OF BUSINESS

Tabling of Documents

Mr. Anderson (Minister of Fisheries and Oceans) laid upon the Table, -- Document entitled "Employment Development Program: Program Report -- January 1997 to September 1997 of the Community Fisheries Development Centre" (English text only). -- Sessional Paper No. 8530-361-4.

Presenting Reports from Committees

Mrs. Finestone (Mount Royal), from the Standing Joint Committee on Official Languages, presented the 1st Report of the Committee (Quorum). -- Sessional Paper No. 8510-361-1.

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings (Meeting No. 1) was tabled.

Mr. Adams (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), from the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs, presented the 6th Report of the Committee, which was as follows:

The Committee recommends, pursuant to Standing Orders 104 and 114, the following change in the membership of the Standing Committee on Citizenship and Immigration:

Jocelyne Girard-Bujold for Monique Guay

The Committee also recommends, pursuant to Standing Orders 104 and 114, that the following Member be added to the list of Associate Members of the Standing Committee on Citizenship and Immigration:

Monique Guay

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings was tabled.

Introduction of Government Bills

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Boudria (Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), seconded by Mr. Scott (Solicitor General of Canada), Bill C-13, An Act to amend the Parliament of Canada Act, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and, by unanimous consent, ordered for a second reading later this day.

Motions

By unanimous consent, Mr. Adams (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), seconded by Mr. Patry (Pierrefonds -- Dollard), moved, -- That 4 members of the Committee and 1 staff member of the Standing Committee on National Defence and Veterans Affairs be authorized to travel to Aviano (Italy), Zagreb (Croatia), Velika Kladusa, Coralici, Bihac, Drvar, Zgon, Banja Luka, Sarejevo (Bosnia) and Zurich (Switzerland) from November 6 to 13, 1997, in order to examine Canada's continuing involvement in the international Stabilization Force (SFOR) in Bosnia.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to.

By unanimous consent, Mr. Adams (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), seconded by Mr. Patry (Pierrefonds -- Dollard), moved, -- That the Standing Committee on National Defence and Veterans Affairs be authorized to travel in Europe on the subject of the stabilization force in Bosnia.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to.

Presenting Petitions

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were presented as follows:

-- by Mr. Szabo (Mississauga South), one concerning alcoholic beverages (No. 361-0121) and one concerning police and firefighters' death benefits (No. 361-0122);

-- by Mr. Blaikie (Winnipeg Transcona), two concerning children's rights (Nos. 361-0123 and 361-0124);

-- by Mr. Riis (Kamloops), one concerning taxes on books (No. 361-0125) and one concerning the tax system (No. 361-0126);

-- by Mr. St. Denis (Algoma -- Manitoulin), two concerning nudity (Nos. 361-0127 and 361-0128) and one concerning nuclear weapons (No. 361-0129).

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The Order was read for the second reading and, by unanimous consent, reference to a Committee of the Whole of Bill C-13, An Act to amend the Parliament of Canada Act.

Mr. Boudria (Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), seconded by Mr. Chan (Secretary of State (Asia- Pacific)), moved, -- That the Bill be now read a second time and referred to a Committee of the Whole.

Debate arose thereon.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to.

Accordingly, the Bill was read the second time and referred to a Committee of the Whole.

The Committee considered the Bill and reported it without amendment.

Pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(12), Mr. Boudria (Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), seconded by Mr. Chan (Secretary of State (Asia-Pacific)), moved, -- That Bill C-13, An Act to amend the Parliament of Canada Act, be concurred in at report stage.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to.

Accordingly, the Bill was concurred in at report stage.

Mr. Boudria (Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), seconded by Ms. Robillard (Minister of Citizenship and Immigration), moved, -- That the Bill be now read a third time and do pass.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to.

Accordingly, the Bill was read the third time and passed.

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mrs. Stewart (Minister of Indian Affairs and Northern Development), seconded by Mr. Peterson (Secretary of State (International Financial Institutions)), -- That Bill C-6, An Act to provide for an integrated system of land and water management in the Mackenzie Valley, to establish certain boards for that purpose and to make consequential amendments to other Acts, be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Aboriginal Affairs and Northern Development.

The debate continued.

The question was put on the motion and, pursuant to Standing Order 45, the recorded division was deferred until later today at the expiry of the time provided for Government Orders.

MOTIONS

By unanimous consent, it was ordered, -- That the Order made on Tuesday, October 21, 1997, referring Bill C-10, An Act to implement a convention between Canada and Sweden, a convention between Canada and the Republic of Lithuania, a convention between Canada and the Republic of Kazakhstan, a convention between Canada and the Republic of Iceland and a convention between Canada and the Kingdom of Denmark for the avoidance of double taxation and the prevention of fiscal evasion with respect to taxes on income and to amend the Canada-Netherlands Income Tax Convention Act, 1986 and the Canada-United States Tax Convention Act, 1984, to the Standing Committee on Finance be discharged and the Bill be referred to the Standing Committee on Industry.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The Order was read for the second reading and reference to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights of Bill C-3, An Act respecting DNA identification and to make consequential amendments to the Criminal Code and other Acts.

Pursuant to Standing Order 73(1), Mr. Scott (Solicitor General of Canada), seconded by Ms. Robillard (Minister of Citizenship and Immigration), moved, -- That the Bill be referred forthwith to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights.

Debate arose thereon.

At 5:30 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 45, the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the motion of Mrs. Stewart (Minister of Indian Affairs and Northern Development), seconded by Mr. Peterson (Secretary of State (International Financial Institutions)), -- That Bill C-6, An Act to provide for an integrated system of land and water management in the Mackenzie Valley, to establish certain boards for that purpose and to make consequential amendments to other Acts, be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Aboriginal Affairs and Northern Development.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 21)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Anderson -- Assad -- Augustine -- Axworthy --  (Saskatoon -- Rosetown -- Biggar) -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bachand --  (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellemare -- Bernier --  (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Blaikie -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Borotsik -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Brison -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Calder -- Cannis -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Casey -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Charest -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Cullen -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Dubé --  (Madawaska -- Restigouche) -- Duhamel -- Earle -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Finestone -- Folco -- Fontana -- Gagliano -- Gallaway -- Godfrey -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Hardy -- Harvard -- Harvey -- Herron -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Jones -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Keddy --  (South Shore) -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Laliberte -- Lastewka -- Lavigne -- Lee -- Leung -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- MacAulay -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Mahoney -- Maloney -- Mancini -- Manley -- Marchi -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- Matthews -- McCormick -- McDonough -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Muise -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Normand -- Nystrom -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Pickard --  (Kent -- Essex) -- Power -- Pratt -- Price -- Proctor -- Proud -- Provenzano -- Redman -- Reed -- Richardson -- Riis -- Robillard -- Robinson -- Rock -- Saada -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Solomon -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- St-Julien -- Stoffer -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Vautour -- Volpe -- Wappel -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Wayne -- Whelan -- Wood -- 175

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Alarie -- Asselin -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Bailey -- Bellehumeur -- Benoit -- Bergeron -- Bernier --  (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Bigras -- Breitkreuz --  (Yellowhead) -- Brien -- Cadman -- Canuel -- Casson -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Crête -- Cummins -- Dalphond-Guiral -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desrochers -- Dumas -- Duncan -- Elley -- Epp -- Forseth -- Gagnon -- Gauthier -- Girard-Bujold -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Goldring -- Gouk -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Guay -- Guimond -- Hanger -- Harris -- Hart -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hilstrom -- Hoeppner -- Johnston -- Kerpan -- Konrad -- Lalonde -- Laurin -- Lebel -- Loubier -- Lunn -- Marceau -- Mark -- Martin --  (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Mayfield -- McNally -- Ménard -- Meredith -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Pankiw -- Penson -- Perron -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Ramsay -- Reynolds -- Ritz -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Schmidt -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- Solberg -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Turp -- Vellacott -- Venne -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- 82

Accordingly, the Bill was read the second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Aboriginal Affairs and Northern Development.

PRIVATE MEMBERS' BUSINESS

At 6:03 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 30(7), the House proceeded to the consideration of Private Members' Business.

Mr. Herron (Fundy -- Royal), seconded by Mrs. Wayne (Saint John), moved, -- That, in the opinion of this House, the government should actively develop an innovative National Shipbuilding Policy which focuses on making ship yards internationally competitive by providing tax incentives and construction financing comparable to what is being provided elsewhere in the world and which ensures reasonable access to foreign markets, particularly the United States of America; and should recognize that such a policy would not provide direct subsidies, but create alternatives methods of support to ensure the growth of the industry. (Private Members' Business M-214)

Debate arose thereon.

Pursuant to Standing Order 96(1), the Order was dropped from the Order Paper.

MESSAGES FROM THE SENATE

Messages were received from the Senate as follows:

-- ORDERED: That a Message be sent to the House of Commons to acquaint that House that the Standing Joint Committee on Official Languages be authorized to examine the expenditures set out in Privy Council Vote 25a of the Supplementary Estimates (A) for the fiscal year ending March 31, 1998.

-- ORDERED: That a Message be sent to the House of Commons to acquaint that House that the Standing Joint Committee on the Library of Parliament has been authorized to examine the expenditures set out in Parliament Vote 10a of the Supplementary Estimates (A) for the fiscal year ending March 31, 1998.

RETURNS AND REPORTS DEPOSITED WITH THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(1), papers deposited with the Clerk of the House were laid upon the Table as follows:

-- by Mrs. Stewart (Minister of Indian Affairs and Northern Development) -- Reports of the Canadian Polar Commission for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1997, pursuant to the Access to Information Act and to the Privacy Act, R. S. 1985, c. A- 1 and P-21, sbs. 72(2). -- Sessional Paper No. 8561-361-325. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights)

-- by Mrs. Stewart (Minister of Indian Affairs and Northern Development) -- Report of the Northern Oil and Gas for the year ended December 31, 1996, pursuant to the Canada Petroleum Resources Act R. S. 1985, c. 36 (2nd Supp.), s. 109. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-361-455. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Natural Resources and Government Operations)

-- by Mrs. Stewart (Minister of Indian Affairs and Northern Development) -- Report of the Canadian Polar Commission for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1997, pursuant to the Canadian Polar Commission Act, S.C. 1991, c. 6, sbs. 21(2).

-- Sessional Paper No. 8560-361-498. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Aboriginal Affairs and Northern Development)

-- by Mrs. Stewart (Minister of Indian Affairs and Northern Development) -- Reports of the Department of Indian Affairs and Northern Development for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1997, pursuant to the Access to Information Act and to the Privacy Act, R. S. 1985, c. A-1 and P-21, sbs. 72(2). -- Sessional Paper No. 8561-361-648. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights)

-- by Mrs. Stewart (Minister of Indian Affairs and Northern Development) -- Reports of the Yukon Territory Water Board for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1997, pursuant to the Access to Information Act and to the Privacy Act, R. S. 1985, c. A-1 and P-21, sbs. 72(2). -- Sessional Paper No. 8561- 361-725. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights)

-- by Mrs. Stewart (Minister of Indian Affairs and Northern Development) -- Reports of the Northwest Territories Water Board for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1997, pursuant to the Access to Information Act and to the Privacy Act, R. S. 1985, c. A-1 and P-21, sbs. 72(2). -- Sessional Paper No. 8561- 361-730. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights)

PETITIONS FILED WITH THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were filed as follows:

-- by Mrs. Chamberlain (Guelph -- Wellington), three concerning the canadian flag (Nos. 361-0130 to 361-0132).

PROCEEDINGS ON ADJOURNMENT MOTION

At 7:03 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 38(1), the question "That this House do now adjourn" was deemed to have been proposed.

After debate, the question was deemed to have been adopted.

ADJOURNMENT

At 7:14 p.m., the Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow at 10:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).