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HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA
36th PARLIAMENT, 1st SESSION


JOURNALS

No. 044

Thursday, December 4, 1997

10:00 a.m.



PRAYERS

DAILY ROUTINE OF BUSINESS

Tabling of Documents

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Adams (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to the following petitions:

-- No. 361-0177 concerning the highway system. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-361-11B;

-- Nos. 361-0180, 361-0181, 361-0182, 361-0183, 361-0184, 361- 0185, 361-0186, 361-0187, 361-0188, 361-0189, 361-0190, 361- 0191, 361-0192 and 361-0193 concerning the Canadian flag. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-361-15A.

Presenting Reports from Inter-parliamentary Delegations

Pursuant to Standing Order 34(1), Mrs. Finestone (Mount Royal) presented the Report of the Canadian Group of the Inter-Parliamentary Union respecting its participation at the 98th Inter-Parliamentary Conference, held in Cairo, Egypt, from September 10 to 16, 1997. -- Sessional Paper No. 8565-361-60C.


Pursuant to Standing Order 34(1), Mr. Patry (Pierrefonds -- Dollard) presented the Report of the Canadian Branch of the Assemblée internationale des parlementaires de langue française (AIPLF) respecting its participation at the AIPLF Bureau meeting, held in Luxembourg on July 5, 1997. -- Sessional Paper No. 8565-361-52A.


Pursuant to Standing Order 34(1), Mr. Patry (Pierrefonds -- Dollard) presented the Report of the Canadian Branch of the Assemblée internationale des parlementaires de langue française (AIPLF) respecting its participation to the XXIIIrd ordinary session of the AIPLF, held in Luxembourg from July 7 to 10, 1997. -- Sessional Paper No. 8565-361-52B.


Pursuant to Standing Order 34(1), Mr. Caccia (Davenport) presented the Report of the Canadian delegation of the Canada-Europe Parliamentary Association respecting its participation at the meeting of the Committee on Economic Affairs and Development of the Council of Europe Parliamentary Assembly, held in London, England, on February 17 and 18, 1997. -- Sessional Paper No. 8565-361-51.


Pursuant to Standing Order 34(1), Mr. Caccia (Davenport) presented the Report of the Canadian delegation of the Canada-Europe Parliamentary Association respecting its participation at the meetings of the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe, held in Paris and Strasbourg, France, from June 19 to 25, 1997. -- Sessional Paper No. 8565-361-51A.

Presenting Reports from Committees

Mr. Caccia (Davenport), from the Standing Committee on Environment and Sustainable Development, presented the 1st Report of the Committee (Harmonization and Environmental Protection). -- Sessional Paper No. 8510-361- 25.

Pursuant to Standing Order 109, the government was requested by the Committee to table a comprehensive response.

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings (Meeting No. 23) was tabled.


Mr. Adams (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), from the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs, presented the 14th Report of the Committee, which was as follows:

      The Committee recommends, pursuant to Standing Orders 104 and 114, the following change in the membership of the Standing Committee on Transport:

Joe Fontana for Gerry Byrne

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings was tabled.

Introduction of Government Bills

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Eggleton (Minister of National Defence), seconded by Mr. Anderson (Minister of Fisheries and Oceans), Bill C-25, An Act to amend the National Defence Act and to make consequential amendments to other Acts, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Recommendation
(Pursuant to Standing Order 79(2))

His Excellency the Governor General recommends to the House of Commons the appropriation of public revenue under the circumstances, in the manner and for the purposes set out in a measure entitled "An Act to amend the National Defence Act and to make consequential amendments to other Acts".


Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Eggleton (Minister of National Defence) for Mr. Vanclief (Minister of Agriculture and Agri-food), seconded by Mr. Anderson (Minister of Fisheries and Oceans), Bill C- 26, An Act to amend the Canada Grain Act and the Agriculture and Agri-Food Administrative Monetary Penalties Act and to repeal the Grain Futures Act, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.


Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Anderson (Minister of Fisheries and Oceans), seconded by Mr. Eggleton (Minister of National Defence), Bill C-27, An Act to amend the Coastal Fisheries Protection Act and the Canada Shipping Act to enable Canada to implement the Agreement for the Implementation of the Provisions of the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea of 10 December 1982 Relating to the Conservation and Management of Straddling Fish Stocks and Highly Migratory Fish Stocks and other international fisheries treaties or arrangements, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Introduction of Private Members' Bills

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Cadman (Surrey North), seconded by Mr. White (North Vancouver), Bill C-294, An Act to amend the Criminal Code and the Corrections and Conditional Release Act (victims' rights), was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Motions

By unanimous consent, Mr. Adams (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), seconded by Mr. Valeri (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Finance), moved, -- That the 14th Report of the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs, presented earlier today, be concurred in.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to.

Presenting Petitions

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were presented as follows:

-- by Ms. Wasylycia-Leis (Winnipeg North Centre), three concerning the Canada Pension Plan (Nos. 361-0279 to 361-0281);

-- by Mr. Szabo (Mississauga South), one concerning the income tax system (No. 361-0282);

-- by Mr. Elley (Nanaimo -- Cowichan), one concerning national unity (No. 361- 0283) and one concerning crimes of violence (No. 361-0284);

-- by Mr. McKay (Scarborough East), one concerning nudity (No. 361-0285);

-- by Mrs. Dockrill (Bras D'Or), two concerning the Canada Pension Plan (Nos. 361-0286 and 361-0287).

Questions on Order Paper

Mr. Adams (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) presented the answer to question Q-34 on the Order Paper.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The Order was read for the third reading of Bill C-2, An Act to establish the Canada Pension Plan Investment Board and to amend the Canada Pension Plan and the Old Age Security Act and to make consequential amendments to other Acts.

Mr. Anderson (Minister of Fisheries and Oceans) for Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance), seconded by Mr. Dhaliwal (Minister of National Revenue), moved, -- That the Bill be now read a third time and do pass.

Debate arose thereon.

TABLING OF DOCUMENTS

By unanimous consent, Mrs. Ablonczy (Calgary -- Nose Hill) laid upon the Table, -- Copies of letters and faxes concerning Canada Pension Plan premiums. -- Sessional Paper No. 8530-361-8.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance), seconded by Mr. Dhaliwal (Minister of National Revenue), -- That Bill C-2, An Act to establish the Canada Pension Plan Investment Board and to amend the Canada Pension Plan and the Old Age Security Act and to make consequential amendments to other Acts, be now read a third time and do pass.

The debate continued.

STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

ORAL QUESTIONS

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

WAYS AND MEANS

Mr. Peterson (Secretary of State (International Financial Institutions)) laid upon the Table, -- Notice of a Ways and Means motion to amend the Excise Tax Act (Ways and Means Proceedings No. 3) -- Sessional Paper No. 8570-361-3.

Pursuant to Standing Order 83(2), at the request of Mr. Peterson (Secretary of State (International Financial Institutions)), an Order of the Day was designated for the consideration of this Ways and Means motion.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance), seconded by Mr. Dhaliwal (Minister of National Revenue), -- That Bill C-2, An Act to establish the Canada Pension Plan Investment Board and to amend the Canada Pension Plan and the Old Age Security Act and to make consequential amendments to other Acts, be now read a third time and do pass.

The debate continued.

At 5:15 p.m. pursuant to Order made Monday, December 1, 1997, under the provisions of Standing Order 78(3), the Speaker interrupted the proceedings.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 51)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Asselin -- Augustine -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellehumeur -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Bergeron -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Bigras -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonwick -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Brien -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Calder -- Cannis -- Canuel -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Catterall -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Chrétien --  (Saint-Maurice) -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Crête -- Cullen -- Dalphond-Guiral -- de Savoye -- Debien -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Dubé --  (Lévis) -- Duhamel -- Dumas -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Fournier -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon -- Gallaway -- Gauthier -- Girard-Bujold -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Guay -- Guimond -- Harb -- Harvard -- Hubbard -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Jordan -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lalonde -- Lastewka -- Laurin -- Lee -- Lefebvre -- Leung -- Longfield -- MacAulay -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marchand -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- O'Brien --  (Labrador) -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Pickard --  (Kent -- Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Proud -- Provenzano -- Redman -- Reed -- Richardson -- Robillard -- Rocheleau -- Saada -- Sauvageau -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- St-Hilaire -- St-Julien -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Turp -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Volpe -- Wappel -- Whelan -- Wood -- 167

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Anders -- Axworthy --  (Saskatoon -- Rosetown -- Biggar) -- Bailey -- Benoit -- Bernier --  (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Blaikie -- Borotsik -- Brison -- Cadman -- Casey -- Casson -- Desjarlais -- Dockrill -- Doyle -- Duncan -- Elley -- Epp -- Forseth -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Goldring -- Gouk -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Hanger -- Harris -- Hart -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hilstrom -- Jaffer -- Johnston -- Jones -- Keddy --  (South Shore) -- Kenney --  (Calgary-Sud-Est) -- Kerpan -- Konrad -- Laliberte -- Lill -- Lowther -- Lunn -- Mancini -- Manning -- Martin --  (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- Matthews -- Mayfield -- McNally -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Muise -- Nystrom -- Obhrai -- Pankiw -- Penson -- Power -- Proctor -- Ramsay -- Reynolds -- Riis -- Ritz -- Robinson -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- Solomon -- Stinson -- Stoffer -- Strahl -- Thompson --  (Charlotte) -- Vellacott -- Wasylycia-Leis -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- White --  (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- 73

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Alarie -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Brown -- Cauchon -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Desrochers -- Duceppe -- Godfrey -- Lincoln -- Loubier -- Marceau -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- Normand -- Perron -- Plamondon -- Stewart --  (Northumberland)

Accordingly, the Bill was read the third time and passed.


Pursuant to Order made Wednesday, December 3, 1997, the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded divisions at report stage and second reading of Bill C-9, An Act for making the system of Canadian ports competitive, efficient and commercially oriented, providing for the establishing of port authorities and the divesting of certain harbours and ports, for the commercialization of the St. Lawrence Seaway and ferry services and other matters related to maritime trade and transport and amending the Pilotage Act and amending and repealing other Acts as a consequence, as reported by the Standing Committee on Transport with amendments.

Group No. 1

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 1 of Mr. Guimond (Beauport -- Montmorency -- Orléans), seconded by Mr. Mercier (Terrebonne -- Blainville), -- That Bill C-9, in Clause 8, be amended by replacing line 9 on page 6 with the following:

    ``(ii) one individual appointed by each of the''

The question was put on Motion No. 1 and it was negatived on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 52)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Asselin -- Axworthy --  (Saskatoon -- Rosetown -- Biggar) -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Bellehumeur -- Bergeron -- Bigras -- Blaikie -- Brien -- Canuel -- Crête -- Dalphond-Guiral -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desjarlais -- Dockrill -- Dubé --  (Lévis) -- Dumas -- Fournier -- Gagnon -- Gauthier -- Girard-Bujold -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Guay -- Guimond -- Laliberte -- Lalonde -- Laurin -- Lefebvre -- Lill -- Mancini -- Marchand -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Nystrom -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Proctor -- Riis -- Robinson -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Solomon -- St-Hilaire -- Stoffer -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Turp -- Wasylycia-Leis -- 49

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Adams -- Alcock -- Anders -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Bailey -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Benoit -- Bernier --  (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonwick -- Borotsik -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Brison -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Cadman -- Calder -- Cannis -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Casey -- Casson -- Catterall -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Chrétien --  (Saint-Maurice) -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Cullen -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Doyle -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Duhamel -- Duncan -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Elley -- Epp -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Forseth -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gallaway -- Goldring -- Goodale -- Gouk -- Graham -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Hanger -- Harb -- Harris -- Hart -- Harvard -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hilstrom -- Hubbard -- Jackson -- Jaffer -- Jennings -- Johnston -- Jones -- Jordan -- Keddy --  (South Shore) -- Kenney --  (Calgary-Sud-Est) -- Kerpan -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Knutson -- Konrad -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lee -- Leung -- Longfield -- Lowther -- Lunn -- MacAulay -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Manning -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin --  (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Massé -- Matthews -- Mayfield -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McNally -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Morrison -- Muise -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Obhrai -- O'Brien --  (Labrador) -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- Pagtakhan -- Pankiw -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Penson -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Pickard --  (Kent -- Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Power -- Pratt -- Proud -- Provenzano -- Ramsay -- Redman -- Reed -- Reynolds -- Richardson -- Ritz -- Robillard -- Saada -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stinson -- St-Julien -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Thompson --  (Charlotte) -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Vellacott -- Volpe -- Wappel -- Whelan -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- White --  (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- Wood -- 191

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Alarie -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Brown -- Cauchon -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Desrochers -- Duceppe -- Godfrey -- Lincoln -- Loubier -- Marceau -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- Normand -- Perron -- Plamondon -- Stewart --  (Northumberland)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 2 of Mr. Guimond (Beauport -- Montmorency -- Orléans), seconded by Mr. Mercier (Terrebonne -- Blainville), -- That Bill C-9, in Clause 12, be amended by adding after line 7 on page 11 the following:

      ``(3.1) For the purposes of subsection (3) the Minister may fix the limits of a port that is to be managed by a port authority.''

The question was put on Motion No. 2 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 49 , NAYS: 191. (See list under Division No. 52)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 3 Mr. Guimond (Beauport -- Montmorency -- Orléans), seconded by Mr. Mercier (Terrebonne -- Blainville), -- That Bill C-9, in Clause 14, be amended by replacing lines 7 to 9 on page 13 with the following:

    ``users.''

The question was put on Motion No. 3 and it was negatived on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 53)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Asselin -- Axworthy --  (Saskatoon -- Rosetown -- Biggar) -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Bellehumeur -- Bergeron -- Bernier --  (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Bigras -- Blaikie -- Borotsik -- Brien -- Brison -- Canuel -- Casey -- Crête -- Dalphond-Guiral -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desjarlais -- Dockrill -- Doyle -- Dubé --  (Lévis) -- Dumas -- Fournier -- Gagnon -- Gauthier -- Girard-Bujold -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Guay -- Guimond -- Jones -- Keddy --  (South Shore) -- Laliberte -- Lalonde -- Laurin -- Lefebvre -- Lill -- Mancini -- Marchand -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- Matthews -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Muise -- Nystrom -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Power -- Proctor -- Riis -- Robinson -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Solomon -- St-Hilaire -- Stoffer -- Thompson --  (Charlotte) -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Turp -- Wasylycia-Leis -- 60

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Adams -- Alcock -- Anders -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Bailey -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Benoit -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonwick -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Cadman -- Calder -- Cannis -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Casson -- Catterall -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Chrétien --  (Saint-Maurice) -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Cullen -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Duhamel -- Duncan -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Elley -- Epp -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Forseth -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gallaway -- Goldring -- Goodale -- Gouk -- Graham -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Hanger -- Harb -- Harris -- Hart -- Harvard -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hilstrom -- Hubbard -- Jackson -- Jaffer -- Jennings -- Johnston -- Jordan -- Kenney --  (Calgary-Sud-Est) -- Kerpan -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Knutson -- Konrad -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lee -- Leung -- Longfield -- Lowther -- Lunn -- MacAulay -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Manning -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin --  (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Massé -- Mayfield -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McNally -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Morrison -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Obhrai -- O'Brien --  (Labrador) -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- Pagtakhan -- Pankiw -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Penson -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Pickard --  (Kent -- Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Proud -- Provenzano -- Ramsay -- Redman -- Reed -- Reynolds -- Richardson -- Ritz -- Robillard -- Saada -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stinson -- St-Julien -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Vellacott -- Volpe -- Wappel -- Whelan -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- White --  (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- Wood -- 180

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Alarie -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Brown -- Cauchon -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Desrochers -- Duceppe -- Godfrey -- Lincoln -- Loubier -- Marceau -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- Normand -- Perron -- Plamondon -- Stewart --  (Northumberland)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 12 of Mr. Guimond (Beauport -- Montmorency -- Orléans), seconded by Mr. Mercier (Terrebonne -- Blainville), -- That Bill C-9, in Clause 48, be amended by replacing line 32 on page 29 with the following:

    "matters and zoning by-laws that apply to neighbouring lands.''

The question was put on Motion No. 12 and it was agreed to on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 54)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Asselin -- Augustine -- Axworthy --  (Saskatoon -- Rosetown -- Biggar) -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellehumeur -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Bergeron -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Bigras -- Blaikie -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonwick -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Brien -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Calder -- Cannis -- Canuel -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Catterall -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Chrétien --  (Saint-Maurice) -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Crête -- Cullen -- Dalphond-Guiral -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desjarlais -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dockrill -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Dubé --  (Lévis) -- Duhamel -- Dumas -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Fournier -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon -- Gallaway -- Gauthier -- Girard-Bujold -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Guay -- Guimond -- Harb -- Harvard -- Hubbard -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Jordan -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Laliberte -- Lalonde -- Lastewka -- Laurin -- Lee -- Lefebvre -- Leung -- Lill -- Longfield -- MacAulay -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Mancini -- Manley -- Marchand -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Nystrom -- O'Brien --  (Labrador) -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Pickard --  (Kent -- Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Proctor -- Proud -- Provenzano -- Redman -- Reed -- Richardson -- Riis -- Robillard -- Robinson -- Rocheleau -- Saada -- Sauvageau -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Solomon -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- St-Hilaire -- St-Julien -- Stoffer -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Torsney -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Turp -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Volpe -- Wappel -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Whelan -- Wood -- 183

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Anders -- Bailey -- Benoit -- Bernier --  (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Borotsik -- Brison -- Cadman -- Casey -- Casson -- Doyle -- Duncan -- Elley -- Epp -- Forseth -- Goldring -- Gouk -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Hanger -- Harris -- Hart -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hilstrom -- Jaffer -- Johnston -- Jones -- Keddy --  (South Shore) -- Kenney --  (Calgary-Sud-Est) -- Kerpan -- Konrad -- Lowther -- Lunn -- Manning -- Martin --  (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Matthews -- Mayfield -- McNally -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Muise -- Obhrai -- Pankiw -- Penson -- Power -- Ramsay -- Reynolds -- Ritz -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Thompson --  (Charlotte) -- Vellacott -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- White --  (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- 57

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Alarie -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Brown -- Cauchon -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Desrochers -- Duceppe -- Godfrey -- Lincoln -- Loubier -- Marceau -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- Normand -- Perron -- Plamondon -- Stewart --  (Northumberland)

Group No. 2

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 4 of Mr. Collenette (Minister of Transport), seconded by Mr. Keyes (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Transport), -- That Bill C-9, in Clause 31, be amended

    (a) by replacing line 14 on page 22 with the following:
        "(3) Subject to subsection (4), a port authority may not mortgage,"
    (b) by replacing lines 18 to 26 on page 22 with the following:
      "revenues of that property.
        (4) A port authority may, if authorized in the letters patent, create a security interest in fixtures on federal real property to the same extent as Her Majesty could create such an interest and may, instead of Her Majesty, execute and deliver the documents required for that purpose.
        (5) For the purposes of subsections (3) and (4), "security interest" means an interest in or charge on property or fixtures mentioned in those subsections to secure the discharge of an obligation or liability of the port authority.
        (6) A grant under subsection (4) may be effected by any instrument by which an interest in real property may be granted by a private person under the laws in force in the province in which the federal real property or fixtures are situated."

The question was put on Motion No. 4 and it was agreed to on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 55)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Adams -- Alcock -- Anders -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Asselin -- Augustine -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Bailey -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellehumeur -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Benoit -- Bergeron -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Bigras -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonwick -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Brien -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Cadman -- Calder -- Cannis -- Canuel -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Casson -- Catterall -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Chrétien --  (Saint-Maurice) -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Crête -- Cullen -- Dalphond-Guiral -- de Savoye -- Debien -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Dubé --  (Lévis) -- Duhamel -- Dumas -- Duncan -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Elley -- Epp -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Forseth -- Fournier -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon -- Gallaway -- Gauthier -- Girard-Bujold -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Goldring -- Goodale -- Gouk -- Graham -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Guay -- Guimond -- Hanger -- Harb -- Harris -- Hart -- Harvard -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hilstrom -- Hubbard -- Jackson -- Jaffer -- Jennings -- Johnston -- Jordan -- Kenney --  (Calgary-Sud-Est) -- Kerpan -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Knutson -- Konrad -- Kraft Sloan -- Lalonde -- Lastewka -- Laurin -- Lee -- Lefebvre -- Leung -- Longfield -- Lowther -- Lunn -- MacAulay -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Manning -- Marchand -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin --  (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Massé -- Mayfield -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McNally -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Morrison -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Obhrai -- O'Brien --  (Labrador) -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- Pagtakhan -- Pankiw -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Penson -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Pickard --  (Kent -- Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Proud -- Provenzano -- Ramsay -- Redman -- Reed -- Reynolds -- Richardson -- Ritz -- Robillard -- Rocheleau -- Saada -- Sauvageau -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- St-Hilaire -- Stinson -- St-Julien -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Torsney -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Turp -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Vellacott -- Volpe -- Wappel -- Whelan -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- White --  (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- Wood -- 213

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Axworthy --  (Saskatoon -- Rosetown -- Biggar) -- Bernier --  (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Blaikie -- Borotsik -- Brison -- Casey -- Desjarlais -- Dockrill -- Doyle -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Jones -- Keddy --  (South Shore) -- Laliberte -- Lill -- Mancini -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- Matthews -- Muise -- Nystrom -- Power -- Proctor -- Riis -- Robinson -- Solomon -- Stoffer -- Thompson --  (Charlotte) -- Wasylycia-Leis -- 27

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Alarie -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Brown -- Cauchon -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Desrochers -- Duceppe -- Godfrey -- Lincoln -- Loubier -- Marceau -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- Normand -- Perron -- Plamondon -- Stewart --  (Northumberland)

Accordingly, Motions Nos. 10 and 11 were also agreed to on the same division.

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 20 of Mr. Collenette (Minister of Transport), seconded by Mr. Keyes (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Transport), -- That Bill C-9 be amended by adding after line 2 on page 98 the following:

        "195.1 Section 589 of the Act is replaced by the following:
        589. All fines recovered under this Part shall be paid over to the Receiver General and shall form part of the Consolidated Revenue Fund."

The question was put on Motion No. 20 and it was agreed to on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 56)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Adams -- Alcock -- Anders -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy --  (Saskatoon -- Rosetown -- Biggar) -- Bailey -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Benoit -- Bernier --  (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Blaikie -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonwick -- Borotsik -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Brison -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Cadman -- Calder -- Cannis -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Casey -- Casson -- Catterall -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Chrétien --  (Saint-Maurice) -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Cullen -- Desjarlais -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dockrill -- Doyle -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Duhamel -- Duncan -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Elley -- Epp -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Forseth -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gallaway -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Goldring -- Goodale -- Gouk -- Graham -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Hanger -- Harb -- Harris -- Hart -- Harvard -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hilstrom -- Hubbard -- Jackson -- Jaffer -- Jennings -- Johnston -- Jones -- Jordan -- Keddy --  (South Shore) -- Kenney --  (Calgary-Sud-Est) -- Kerpan -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Knutson -- Konrad -- Kraft Sloan -- Laliberte -- Lastewka -- Lee -- Leung -- Lill -- Longfield -- Lowther -- Lunn -- MacAulay -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Mancini -- Manley -- Manning -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin --  (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- Massé -- Matthews -- Mayfield -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McNally -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Morrison -- Muise -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Nystrom -- Obhrai -- O'Brien --  (Labrador) -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- Pagtakhan -- Pankiw -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Penson -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Pickard --  (Kent -- Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Power -- Pratt -- Proctor -- Proud -- Provenzano -- Ramsay -- Redman -- Reed -- Reynolds -- Richardson -- Riis -- Ritz -- Robillard -- Robinson -- Saada -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Solomon -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stinson -- St-Julien -- Stoffer -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Thompson --  (Charlotte) -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Vellacott -- Volpe -- Wappel -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Whelan -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- White --  (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- Wood -- 207

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Asselin -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Bellehumeur -- Bergeron -- Bigras -- Brien -- Canuel -- Crête -- Dalphond-Guiral -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Dubé --  (Lévis) -- Dumas -- Fournier -- Gagnon -- Gauthier -- Girard-Bujold -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Guay -- Guimond -- Lalonde -- Laurin -- Lefebvre -- Marchand -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- St-Hilaire -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Turp -- 33

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Alarie -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Brown -- Cauchon -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Desrochers -- Duceppe -- Godfrey -- Lincoln -- Loubier -- Marceau -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- Normand -- Perron -- Plamondon -- Stewart --  (Northumberland)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 21 of Mr. Collenette (Minister of Transport), seconded by Mr. Keyes (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Transport), -- That Bill C-9, in Clause 23, be amended by replacing line 34 on page 16 with the following:

    "tions made under paragraph 27(1)(e)."

The question was put on Motion No. 21 and it was agreed to on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 57)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Adams -- Alcock -- Anders -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Asselin -- Augustine -- Axworthy --  (Saskatoon -- Rosetown -- Biggar) -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Bailey -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellehumeur -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Benoit -- Bergeron -- Bernier --  (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Bigras -- Blaikie -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonwick -- Borotsik -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Brien -- Brison -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Cadman -- Calder -- Cannis -- Canuel -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Casey -- Casson -- Catterall -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Chrétien --  (Saint-Maurice) -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Crête -- Cullen -- Dalphond-Guiral -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desjarlais -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dockrill -- Doyle -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Dubé --  (Lévis) -- Duhamel -- Dumas -- Duncan -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Elley -- Epp -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Forseth -- Fournier -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon -- Gallaway -- Gauthier -- Girard-Bujold -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Goldring -- Goodale -- Gouk -- Graham -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Guay -- Guimond -- Hanger -- Harb -- Harris -- Hart -- Harvard -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hilstrom -- Hubbard -- Jackson -- Jaffer -- Jennings -- Johnston -- Jones -- Jordan -- Keddy --  (South Shore) -- Kenney --  (Calgary-Sud-Est) -- Kerpan -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Knutson -- Konrad -- Kraft Sloan -- Laliberte -- Lalonde -- Lastewka -- Laurin -- Lee -- Lefebvre -- Leung -- Lill -- Longfield -- Lowther -- Lunn -- MacAulay -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Mancini -- Manley -- Manning -- Marchand -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin --  (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- Massé -- Matthews -- Mayfield -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McNally -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Morrison -- Muise -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Nystrom -- Obhrai -- O'Brien --  (Labrador) -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- Pagtakhan -- Pankiw -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Penson -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Pickard --  (Kent -- Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Power -- Pratt -- Proctor -- Proud -- Provenzano -- Ramsay -- Redman -- Reed -- Reynolds -- Richardson -- Riis -- Ritz -- Robillard -- Robinson -- Rocheleau -- Saada -- Sauvageau -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Solomon -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- St-Hilaire -- Stinson -- St-Julien -- Stoffer -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Thompson --  (Charlotte) -- Torsney -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Turp -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Vellacott -- Volpe -- Wappel -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Whelan -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- White --  (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- Wood -- 240

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- 0

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Alarie -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Brown -- Cauchon -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Desrochers -- Duceppe -- Godfrey -- Lincoln -- Loubier -- Marceau -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- Normand -- Perron -- Plamondon -- Stewart --  (Northumberland)

Group No. 3

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 5 of Mr. Morrison (Cypress Hills -- Grasslands), seconded by Mr. Bailey (Souris -- Moose Mountain), -- That Bill C-9, in Clause 38, be amended by adding after line 15 on page 25 the following:

        "(1.1) A port authority shall establish a code of conduct and system of practices respecting avoidance of conflict of interest by its directors and officers."

The question was put on Motion No. 5 and it was negatived on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 58)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Anders -- Asselin -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Bailey -- Bellehumeur -- Benoit -- Bergeron -- Bernier --  (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Bigras -- Borotsik -- Brien -- Brison -- Cadman -- Canuel -- Casey -- Casson -- Crête -- Dalphond-Guiral -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Doyle -- Dubé --  (Lévis) -- Dumas -- Duncan -- Elley -- Epp -- Forseth -- Fournier -- Gagnon -- Gauthier -- Girard-Bujold -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Goldring -- Gouk -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Guay -- Guimond -- Hanger -- Harris -- Hart -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hilstrom -- Jaffer -- Johnston -- Jones -- Keddy --  (South Shore) -- Kenney --  (Calgary-Sud-Est) -- Kerpan -- Konrad -- Lalonde -- Laurin -- Lefebvre -- Lowther -- Lunn -- Manning -- Marchand -- Martin --  (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Matthews -- Mayfield -- McNally -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Muise -- Obhrai -- Pankiw -- Penson -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Power -- Ramsay -- Reynolds -- Ritz -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- St-Hilaire -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Thompson --  (Charlotte) -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Turp -- Vellacott -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- White --  (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- 90

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy --  (Saskatoon -- Rosetown -- Biggar) -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Blaikie -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonwick -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Calder -- Cannis -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Catterall -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Chrétien --  (Saint-Maurice) -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Cullen -- Desjarlais -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dockrill -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Duhamel -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gallaway -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Harvard -- Hubbard -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Jordan -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Laliberte -- Lastewka -- Lee -- Leung -- Lill -- Longfield -- MacAulay -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Mancini -- Manley -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Nystrom -- O'Brien --  (Labrador) -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Pickard --  (Kent -- Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Proctor -- Proud -- Provenzano -- Redman -- Reed -- Richardson -- Riis -- Robillard -- Robinson -- Saada -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Solomon -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- St-Julien -- Stoffer -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Volpe -- Wappel -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Whelan -- Wood -- 150

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Alarie -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Brown -- Cauchon -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Desrochers -- Duceppe -- Godfrey -- Lincoln -- Loubier -- Marceau -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- Normand -- Perron -- Plamondon -- Stewart --  (Northumberland)

Accordingly, Motions Nos. 6, 13 and 14 were also negatived on the same division.

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 7 of Mr. Morrison (Cypress Hills -- Grasslands), seconded by Mr. Bailey (Souris -- Moose Mountain), -- That Bill C-9, in Clause 41, be amended by adding after line 11 on page 26 the following:

        "(2.1) An examiner shall be a person appointed by the Minister from suitable persons in the office of the Auditor General of Canada or the Department of Justice."

The question was put on Motion No. 7 and it was negatived on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 59)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Anders -- Asselin -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Bailey -- Bellehumeur -- Benoit -- Bergeron -- Bigras -- Brien -- Cadman -- Canuel -- Casson -- Crête -- Dalphond-Guiral -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Dubé --  (Lévis) -- Dumas -- Duncan -- Elley -- Epp -- Forseth -- Fournier -- Gagnon -- Gauthier -- Girard-Bujold -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Goldring -- Gouk -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Guay -- Guimond -- Hanger -- Harris -- Hart -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hilstrom -- Jaffer -- Johnston -- Kenney --  (Calgary-Sud-Est) -- Kerpan -- Konrad -- Lalonde -- Laurin -- Lefebvre -- Lowther -- Lunn -- Manning -- Marchand -- Martin --  (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Mayfield -- McNally -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Obhrai -- Pankiw -- Penson -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Ramsay -- Reynolds -- Ritz -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- St-Hilaire -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Turp -- Vellacott -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- White --  (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- 79

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy --  (Saskatoon -- Rosetown -- Biggar) -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Bernier --  (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Blaikie -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonwick -- Borotsik -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Brison -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Calder -- Cannis -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Casey -- Catterall -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Chrétien --  (Saint-Maurice) -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Cullen -- Desjarlais -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dockrill -- Doyle -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Duhamel -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gallaway -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Harvard -- Hubbard -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Jones -- Jordan -- Keddy --  (South Shore) -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Laliberte -- Lastewka -- Lee -- Leung -- Lill -- Longfield -- MacAulay -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Mancini -- Manley -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- Massé -- Matthews -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Muise -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Nystrom -- O'Brien --  (Labrador) -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Pickard --  (Kent -- Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Power -- Pratt -- Proctor -- Proud -- Provenzano -- Redman -- Reed -- Richardson -- Riis -- Robillard -- Robinson -- Saada -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Solomon -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- St-Julien -- Stoffer -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Thompson --  (Charlotte) -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Volpe -- Wappel -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Whelan -- Wood -- 161

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Alarie -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Brown -- Cauchon -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Desrochers -- Duceppe -- Godfrey -- Lincoln -- Loubier -- Marceau -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- Normand -- Perron -- Plamondon -- Stewart --  (Northumberland)

Accordingly, Motions Nos. 9, 15 and 17 were also negatived on the same division.

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 8 of Mr. Morrison (Cypress Hills -- Grasslands), seconded by Mr. Bailey (Souris -- Moose Mountain), -- That Bill C-9, in Clause 41, be amended by replacing lines 24 to 25 on page 26 with the following:

    "about the plan, the matter shall be referred to the Canadian Transportation Agency and the Agency shall make a final determination with respect to it and shall report its determination to the Standing Committee of the House of Commons appointed to deal with matters relating to Transportation."

The question was put on Motion No. 8 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 79, NAYS: 161. (See list under Division No. 59)

Accordingly, Motion No. 16 was also negatived on the same division.

Group No. 4

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 18 of Mr. Guimond (Beauport -- Montmorency -- Orléans), seconded by Mr. Mercier (Terrebonne -- Blainville), -- That Bill C-9 be amended by adding after line 15, on page 77, the following:

      ``133.1 (1) For greater certainty, on the continuance of a harbour commission under section 10 as a port authority, on the continuance of a local port corporation under section 12 as a port authority or, on the coming into force of an agreement entered into under subsection 80(5) with the St- Lawrence Seaway Authority, any person who, at the time of the coming into force of those sections or subsection was employed by one of those bodies and remains employed, may, if that person was a contributor under the Public Service Superanuation Act, elect to remain subject to the terms of the Public Service Superannuation Act, the Supplementary Retirement Benefits Act and the regulations made under those Acts.''
      (2) The Governor in Council may make regulations for carrying out the purposes of subsection (1).''

The question was put on Motion No. 18 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 49, NAYS: 191. (See list under Division No. 52)

The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 19 of Mr. Collenette (Minister of Transport), seconded by Mr. Keyes (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Transport), -- That Bill C-9 be amended by

    (a) replacing the heading before line 1 on page 79 with the following:
      "Comparable Employee Benefits"
    (b) adding after line 8 on page 79 the following:
        "138.2 A person who has entered into an agreement under subsection 80(5) and every port authority shall take all reasonable steps to negotiate with the President of the Treasury Board a pension transfer agreement in accordance with section 40.2 of the Public Service Superannuation Act in respect of employees referred to in paragraph 130(b), 132(b) or 135(1)(b), as the case may be.
        138.3 For the purposes of sections 138.4 to 138.6, "employee benefits" includes coverage and benefits in respect of employer-sponsored pension plans and of life, income protection, health care and dental care insurance plans.
        138.4 A person who has entered into an agreement under subsection 80(5) shall, in respect of an employee referred to in paragraph 130(b), provide employee benefits that
        (a) begin on the day of the transfer under paragraph 80(6)(f) or, if there is transitional coverage provided in respect of the person under section 40.1 of the Public Service Superannuation Act, on the expiry of the period of transitional coverage;
        (b) are comparable to the employee benefits of the employee immediately before the transfer under paragraph 80(6)(f) and at a rate of contribution by the employee not greater than the rate that was applicable in respect of the employee immediately before that transfer; and
        (c) end on the day on which an agreement to the contrary comes into force between the person and the bargaining agent representing the employee or, in the case of an unrepresented employee, the person and the employee.
        138.5 A port authority shall, in respect of an employee referred to in paragraph 132(b), provide employee benefits that
        (a) begin on the day on which the port authority is continued under subsection 12(1) or, if there is transitional coverage provided in respect of the port authority under section 40.1 of the Public Service Superannuation Act, on the expiry of the period of transitional coverage;
        (b) are comparable to the employee benefits of the employee immediately before ceasing to be an employee of the local port corporation and at a rate of contribution by the employee not greater than the rate that was applicable in respect of the employee immediately before ceasing to be an employee of the local port corporation; and
        (c) end on the day on which an agreement to the contrary comes into force between the port authority and the bargaining agent representing the employee or, in the case of an unrepresented employee, the port authority and the employee.
        138.6 A port authority shall, in respect of an employee referred to in paragraph 135(1)(b), provide employee benefits that
        (a) begin on the day on which the port authority is deemed to be incorporated under subsection 12(1) or, if there is transitional coverage provided in respect of the port authority under section 40.1 of the Public Service Superannuation Act, on the expiry of the period of transitional coverage;
        (b) are comparable to the employee benefits of the employee immediately before ceasing to be an employee of the Canada Ports Corporation and at a rate of contribution by the employee not greater than the rate that was applicable in respect of the employee immediately before ceasing to be an employee of the Canada Ports Corporation; and
        (c) end on the day on which an agreement to the contrary comes into force between the port authority and the bargaining agent representing the employee or, in the case of an unrepresented employee, the port authority and the employee."

The question was put on Motion No. 19 and it was agreed to on the following division:

YEAS: 207, NAYS: 33. (See list under Division No. 56)

Mr. Collenette (Minister of Transport), seconded by Mr. Gagliano (Minister of Public Works and Government Services), moved, -- That Bill C-9, An Act for making the system of Canadian ports competitive, efficient and commercially oriented, providing for the establishing of port authorities and the divesting of certain harbours and ports, for the commercialization of the St. Lawrence Seaway and ferry services and other matters related to maritime trade and transport and amending the Pilotage Act and amending and repealing other Acts as a consequence, as amended, be concurred in at report stage with further amendments and read a second time.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 60)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Adams -- Alcock -- Anders -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Bailey -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Benoit -- Bernier --  (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonwick -- Borotsik -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Brison -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Cadman -- Calder -- Cannis -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Casey -- Casson -- Catterall -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Chrétien --  (Saint-Maurice) -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Cullen -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Doyle -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Duhamel -- Duncan -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Elley -- Epp -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Forseth -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gallaway -- Goldring -- Goodale -- Gouk -- Graham -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Hanger -- Harb -- Harris -- Hart -- Harvard -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hilstrom -- Hubbard -- Jackson -- Jaffer -- Jennings -- Johnston -- Jones -- Jordan -- Keddy --  (South Shore) -- Kenney --  (Calgary-Sud-Est) -- Kerpan -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Knutson -- Konrad -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lee -- Leung -- Longfield -- Lowther -- Lunn -- MacAulay -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Manning -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin --  (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Massé -- Matthews -- Mayfield -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McNally -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Morrison -- Muise -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Obhrai -- O'Brien --  (Labrador) -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- Pagtakhan -- Pankiw -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Penson -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Pickard --  (Kent -- Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Power -- Pratt -- Proud -- Provenzano -- Ramsay -- Redman -- Reed -- Reynolds -- Richardson -- Ritz -- Robillard -- Saada -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stinson -- St-Julien -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Thompson --  (Charlotte) -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Vellacott -- Volpe -- Wappel -- Whelan -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- White --  (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- Wood -- 191

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Asselin -- Axworthy --  (Saskatoon -- Rosetown -- Biggar) -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Bellehumeur -- Bergeron -- Bigras -- Blaikie -- Brien -- Canuel -- Crête -- Dalphond-Guiral -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desjarlais -- Dockrill -- Dubé --  (Lévis) -- Dumas -- Fournier -- Gagnon -- Gauthier -- Girard-Bujold -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Guay -- Guimond -- Laliberte -- Lalonde -- Laurin -- Lefebvre -- Lill -- Mancini -- Marchand -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Nystrom -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Proctor -- Riis -- Robinson -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Solomon -- St-Hilaire -- Stoffer -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Turp -- Wasylycia-Leis -- 49

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Alarie -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Brown -- Cauchon -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Desrochers -- Duceppe -- Godfrey -- Lincoln -- Loubier -- Marceau -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- Normand -- Perron -- Plamondon -- Stewart --  (Northumberland)

Accordingly, the Bill, as amended, was concurred in at report stage with further amendments, read the second time and ordered for a third reading at the next sitting of the House.

PRIVATE MEMBERS' BUSINESS

At 5:59 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 30(7), the House proceeded to the consideration of Private Members' Business.

Mr. Godin (Acadie -- Bathurst), seconded by Mrs. Dockrill (Bras D'Or), moved, -- That, in the opinion of this House, the government should enact legislation mandating toy manufacturers to label toys containing phthalates in order to allow parents to make an informed decision when buying products for their children. (Private Members' Business M- 85)

Debate arose thereon.

Pursuant to Standing Order 93, the Order was dropped to the bottom of the order of precedence on the Order Paper.

RETURNS AND REPORTS DEPOSITED WITH THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(1), a paper deposited with the Clerk of the House was laid upon the Table as follows:

-- by Mrs. Stewart (Minister of Indian Affairs and Northern Development) -- Report on the James Bay and Northern Quebec Agreement and on the Northeastern Quebec Agreement ``Cree- Inuit-Naskapi'' for the year 1996, pursuant to the James Bay and Northern Quebec Native Claims Settlement Act, S.C. 1976- 77, c. 32, s. 10. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-361-438. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Aboriginal Affairs and Northern Development)

PETITIONS FILED WITH THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were filed as follows:

-- by Ms. Marleau (Sudbury), one concerning NATO (No. 361- 0276) and one concerning the Young Offenders Act (No. 361- 0277);

-- by Mrs. Chamberlain (Guelph -- Wellington), one concerning the Canadian flag (No. 361-0278).

PROCEEDINGS ON ADJOURNMENT MOTION

At 6:59 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 38(1), the question "That this House do now adjourn" was deemed to have been proposed.

After debate, the question was deemed to have been adopted.

ADJOURNMENT

At 7:16 p.m., the Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow at 10:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).