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HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA
36th PARLIAMENT, 2nd SESSION


JOURNALS

No. 004

Friday, October 15, 1999

10:00 a.m.



The Clerk informed the HOuse of the unavoidable absence of the Speaker.

Thereupon, Mr. Milliken (Kingston and the Islands) Deputy Speaker took the Chair, pursuant to Subsection 43(1) of the Parliament of Canada Act.

PRAYERS

ADDRESS IN REPLY TO THE SPEECH FROM THE THRONE

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Limoges (Windsor -- St. Clair), seconded by Ms. Folco (Laval West), -- That the following Address be presented to Her Excellency the Governor General of Canada:

        To Her Excellency the Right Honourable Adrienne Clarkson, Chancellor and Principal Companion of the Order of Canada, Chancellor and Commander of the Order of Military Merit, Governor General and Commander-in-Chief of Canada.
      MAY IT PLEASE YOUR EXCELLENCY:
        We, Her Majesty's most loyal and dutiful subjects, the House of Commons of Canada, in Parliament assembled, beg leave to offer our humble thanks to Your Excellency for the gracious Speech which Your Excellency has addressed to both Houses of Parliament;

And of the amendment of Mr. Manning (Calgary Southwest), seconded by Miss Grey (Edmonton North), -- That the following words be added to the Address:

    ``and that this House regrets that your Government has failed through a lack of vision and commitment to sound principles to adequately address the allegations of corruption against it, including the abuse of patronage; failed to bring integrity to Canada's immigration system by allowing organized crime to take advantage of Canadians' generosity and by undermining the standing of legitimate immigrants and genuine refugees; failed to seriously deal with the problem of drug trafficking, youth crime, and child pornography; rejected the common sense policies of other governments, most notably the Ontario and Alberta governments, of lowering taxes to create jobs and prevent companies, young people, and capital from leaving the country; failed to maintain the supremacy of Parliament in relation to the courts; failed to recognize the serious plight of Canadian agriculture and to provide a framework for reorganizing the airline industry; failed to provide for the democratic reform of federal institutions and the reform of federal-provincial relations through re-balancing the powers; and therefore, having failed to demonstrate the capacity, commitment, and vision required to lead this country into the 21st Century, has lost the confidence of this House and the Canadian people.''

The debate continued.

Mr. Lowther (Calgary Centre), seconded by Ms. Meredith (South Surrey -- White Rock -- Langley), moved the following sub- amendment, -- That the amendment be amended by inserting, after the words ``airline industry'', the following:

    ``and give Canadians some indication of its vision of Canada's airline industry in the 21st Century''.

Debate arose thereon.

STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

ORAL QUESTIONS

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

DAILY ROUTINE OF BUSINESS

Tabling of Documents

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Boudria (Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Guidelines for preparing government responses to House of Commons committee reports. -- Sessional Paper No. 8530-362-1.


Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Bertrand (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of National Defence) laid upon the Table, -- Report of the National Defence and Canadian Forces Ombudsman for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1999. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-362-150-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on National Defence and Veterans Affairs)


Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Lee (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Employment Statistics for the Federal Public Service for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1999. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-362- 258-01.


Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Lee (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Orders in Council approving certain appointments made by the Governor General in Council, pursuant to Standing Order 110(1), as follows:

-- P.C. 1999-1437 and P.C. 1999-1628. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540- 362-1-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Aboriginal Affairs and Northern Development)

-- P.C. 1999-1438, P.C. 1999-1439 and P.C. 1999-1620. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-362-2-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Agriculture and Agri-Food)

-- P.C. 1999-1428, P.C. 1999-1722, P.C. 1999-1723, P.C. 1999-1724, P.C. 1999-1725, P.C. 1999-1726, P.C. 1999-1727, P.C. 1999-1728, P.C. 1999-1729, P.C. 1999-1730, P.C. 1999-1731, P.C. 1999-1732, P.C. 1999-1733, P.C. 1999-1734, P.C. 1999-1735, P.C. 1999-1736 and P.C. 1999-1737. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-362-9-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Finance)

-- P.C. 1999-1417. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-362-10-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Fisheries and Oceans)

-- P.C. 1999-1442, P.C. 1999-1455, P.C. 1999-1456, P.C. 1999-1461, P.C. 1999-1462, P.C. 1999-1463, P.C. 1999-1464, P.C. 1999-1465, P.C. 1999-1466, P.C. 1999-1467, P.C. 1999-1468, P.C. 1999-1469, P.C. 1999-1470, P.C. 1999-1482, P.C. 1999-1548, P.C. 1999-1582, P.C. 1999-1629, P.C. 1999-1630 and P.C. 1999-1631. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-362-8-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs and International Trade)

-- P.C. 1999-1429, P.C. 1999-1430, P.C. 1999-1431, P.C. 1999-1588, P.C. 1999-1589, P.C. 1999-1590, P.C. 1999-1636, P.C. 1999-1637, P.C. 1999-1638 and P.C. 1999-1641. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540- 362-16-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Human Resources Development and the Status of Persons with Disabilities)

-- P.C. 1999-1427. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-362-17-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on National Defence and Veterans Affairs)

-- P.C. 1999-1421, P.C. 1999-1422, P.C. 1999-1423, P.C. 1999-1424, P.C. 1999-1534, P.C. 1999-1619 and P.C. 1999-1740. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-362-6-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Natural Resources and Government Operations)

-- P.C. 1999-1418, P.C. 1999-1546, P.C. 1999-1584, P.C. 1999-1599 and P.C. 1999-1600. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-362-5-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs)

-- P.C. 1999-1542, P.C. 1999-1547, P.C. 1999-1586, P.C. 1999-1587, P.C. 1999-1614, P.C. 1999-1615, P.C. 1999-1616 and P.C. 1999- 1617. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-362-3-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage)

-- P.C. 1999-1475, P.C. 1999-1476 and P.C. 1999-1739. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-362-22-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Industry)

-- P.C. 1999-1471, P.C. 1999-1472, P.C. 1999-1473, P.C. 1999-1574, P.C. 1999-1585 and P.C. 1999-1613. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540- 362-24-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Transport)

-- P.C. 1999-1601, P.C. 1999-1602, P.C. 1999-1603, P.C. 1999-1604, P.C. 1999-1605, P.C. 1999-1606, P.C. 1999-1607, P.C. 1999-1608, P.C. 1999-1609, P.C. 1999-1610, P.C. 1999-1611 and P.C. 1999- 1612. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-362-14-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Citizenship and Immigration)

-- P.C. 1999-1632, P.C. 1999-1633 and P.C. 1999-1634. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-362-7-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Environment and Sustainable Development)

-- P.C. 1999-1635. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-362-18-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Health)

-- P.C. 1999-1550, P.C. 1999-1621, P.C. 1999-1622, P.C. 1999-1623, P.C. 1999-1624, P.C. 1999-1625 and P.C. 1999-1626. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-362-13-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights)


Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Cannis (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Industry) laid upon the Table, -- Response of the government, pursuant to Standing Order 109, to the 18th Report of the Standing Committee on Industry, ``The Year 2000 Problem -- Will Canada be ready?'' (Sessional Paper No. 8510-361-183), presented to the House on Monday, May 31, 1999. -- Sessional Paper No. 8512- 362-183-01.


Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Lee (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to the following petitions:

-- Nos. 361-2265, 361-2347, 361-2354, 361-2365, 361-2367, 361- 2410, 361-2455, 361-2507, 361-2584 and 361-2604 concerning the former Yugoslavia. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-362-9-01;

-- Nos. 361-2509 and 361-2533 concerning banks. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-362-10-01.

Introduction of Government Bills

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Boudria (Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) for Mr. Manley (Minister of Industry), seconded by Mr. Collenette (Minister of Transport), Bill C-4, An Act to implement the Agreement among the Government of Canada, Governments of Member States of the European Space Agency, the Government of Japan, the Government of the Russian Federation, and the Government of the United States of America concerning Cooperation on the Civil International Space Station and to make related amendments to other Acts, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.


Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Boudria (Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) for Mr. Manley (Minister of Industry), seconded by Mr. Eggleton (Minister of National Defence), Bill C-5, An Act to establish the Canadian Tourism Commission, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Recommendation
(Pursuant to Standing Order 79(2))

Her Excellency the Governor General recommends to the House of Commons the appropriation of public revenue under the circumstances, in the manner and for the purposes set out in a measure entitled "An Act to establish the Canadian Tourism Commission".


Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Boudria (Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) for Mr. Manley (Minister of Industry), seconded by Mr. Eggleton (Minister of National Defence), Bill C-6, An Act to support and promote electronic commerce by protecting personal information that is collected, used or disclosed in certain circumstances, by providing for the use of electronic means to communicate or record information or transactions and by amending the Canada Evidence Act, the Statutory Instruments Act and the Statute Revision Act, was introduced, read the first time and ordered to be printed.

Recommendation
(Pursuant to Standing Order 79(2))

Her Excellency the Governor General recommends to the House of Commons the appropriation of public revenue under the circumstances, in the manner and for the purposes set out in a measure entitled "An Act to support and promote electronic commerce by protecting personal information that is collected, used or disclosed in certain circumstances, by providing for the use of electronic means to communicate or record information or transactions and by amending the Canada Evidence Act, the Statutory Instruments Act and the Statute Revision Act".

Pursuant to Order made Thursday, October 14, 1999, the Bill (previously Bill C-54, 1st Session, 36th Parliament) was deemed to have been read the second time, referred to a committee and reported with amendments.

Introduction of Private Members' Bills

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Obhrai (Calgary East), seconded by Ms. Meredith (South Surrey -- White Rock -- Langley), Bill C-219, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (breaking and entering), was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.


Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Obhrai (Calgary East), seconded by Ms. Meredith (South Surrey -- White Rock -- Langley), Bill C-220, An Act to require that in the advertising and at the opening of a cultural project supported by public money a public acknowledgement be made of the grant and the percentage of the total cost that the grant represents, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.


Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Morrison (Cypress Hills -- Grasslands), seconded by Mr. Thompson (Wild Rose), Bill C-221, An Act respecting the transfer of grain elevators located in a Prairie province and the discontinuance of their operation, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.


Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Thompson (Wild Rose), seconded by Mr. Morrison (Cypress Hills -- Grasslands), Bill C-222, An Act to establish the office of First Nations Ombudsman to investigate complaints relating to administrative and communication problems between members of First Nations communities and their First Nation and between First Nations, allegations of improper financial administration and allegations of electoral irregularities, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.


Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Hill (Prince George -- Peace River), seconded by Ms. Meredith (South Surrey -- White Rock -- Langley), Bill C-223, An Act to amend the Witness Protection Program Act and to make a related and consequential amendment to another Act (protection of spouses whose life is in danger), was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

ADDRESS IN REPLY TO THE SPEECH FROM THE THRONE

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Limoges (Windsor -- St. Clair), seconded by Ms. Folco (Laval West);

And of the amendment of Mr. Manning (Calgary Southwest), seconded by Miss Grey (Edmonton North);

And of the sub-amendment of Mr. Lowther (Calgary Centre), seconded by Ms. Meredith (South Surrey -- White Rock -- Langley).

The debate continued.

RETURNS AND REPORTS DEPOSITED WITH THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(1), papers deposited with the Clerk of the House were laid upon the Table as follows:

-- by Mr. Collenette (Minister of Transport) -- Order in Council P.C. 1999-1457, dated August 13, 1999, concerning the Order authorizing certain major air carriers and persons to negotiate and enter into any conditional agreement, pursuant to the Canada Transportation Act, S.C. 1996, c. 10, sbs. 47(4). -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-362-562-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Transport)

-- by Mr. Dhaliwal (Minister of Fisheries and Oceans) -- Summaries of the Corporate Plan for the period 1999-2000 to 2003-04 and of the Operating and Capital Budgets for 1999-2000 of the Freshwater Fish Marketing Corporation, pursuant to the Financial Administration Act, R. S. 1985, c. F-11, sbs. 125(4). -- Sessional Paper No. 8562-362-826-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Fisheries and Oceans)

-- by Mr. Goodale (Minister of Natural Resources) -- Report of the Cape Breton Development Corporation for the year ended March 31, 1999, pursuant to the Alternative Fuels Act, S.C. 1995, c. 20, s. 8. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-362-151-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Environment and Sustainable Development)

-- by Ms. McLellan (Minister of Justice) -- Reports of the Canadian Human Rights Commission for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1999, pursuant to the Access to Information Act and to the Privacy Act, R. S. 1985, c. A-1 and P-21, sbs. 72(2). -- Sessional Paper No. 8561-362-680-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights)

-- by Mr. Rock (Minister of Health) -- Response of the government, pursuant to Standing Order 109, to the 5th Report of the Standing Committee on Health, "Organ and Tissue Donation and Transplantation: A Canadian Approach" (Sessional Paper No. 8510- 361-160), presented to the House on Thursday, April 22, 1999. -- Sessional Paper No. 8512-362-160-01.

ADJOURNMENT

At 2:30 p.m., the Deputy Speaker adjourned the House until Monday at 11:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).