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HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA
36th PARLIAMENT, 2nd SESSION


JOURNALS

No. 090

Thursday, May 4, 2000

10:00 a.m.



PRAYERS

DAILY ROUTINE OF BUSINESS

Tabling of Documents

The Speaker laid upon the Table, -- Document entitled "Report on Plans and Priorities for 2000-2001 of the House of Commons Administration". -- Sessional Paper No. 8520-362-88.


Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Lee (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to the following petitions:

-- Nos. 362-0061, 362-0062, 362-0167, 362-0233 and 362-0400 concerning the situation in the Middle East. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-362-89-01;

-- Nos. 362-0796 and 362-0860 concerning immigration. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-362-19-12.


Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Mitchell (Secretary of State (Rural Development)) laid upon the Table, -- Document entitled "Working Together in Rural Canada", dated May 2000. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-362-11-01

Presenting Reports from Inter-parliamentary Delegations

Pursuant to Standing Order 34(1), Mr. Plamondon (Bas- Richelieu -- Nicolet -- Bécancour) presented the Report of the Canadian parliamentary delegation of the Assemblée parlementaire de la Francophonie (APF) respecting its participation at the meeting of the APF Committee on Education, Communication and Cultural Affairs held in Libreville, Gabon, on March 6 and 7, 2000. -- Sessional Paper No. 8565-362-52-01.

Motions

By unanimous consent, Mr. Lee (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), seconded by Ms. Karetak-Lindell (Nunavut), moved -- That the membership of the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affaires be modified as follows:

Normand Doyle for André Harvey

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to.

Presenting Petitions

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were presented as follows:

-- by Mr. Harb (Ottawa Centre), one concerning breast cancer (No. 362-1143);

-- by Mr. Cummins (Delta -- South Richmond), one concerning pornography (No. 362-1144) and two concerning wharfs and harbours (Nos. 362-1145 and 362-1146);

-- by Mr. Gruending (Saskatoon -- Rosetown -- Biggar), one concerning child poverty (No. 362-1147);

-- by Ms. St-Jacques (Shefford), one concerning the regulation of food and drugs (No. 362-1148);

-- by Mr. Adams (Peterborough), one concerning unborn children (No. 362-1149);

-- by Mr. Ritz (Battlefords -- Lloydminster), two concerning marriage (Nos. 362-1150 and 362-1151) and two concerning pornography (Nos. 362-1152 and 362-1153);

-- by Mr. O'Reilly (Haliburton -- Victoria -- Brock), one concerning marriage (No. 362-1154);

-- by Mr. Blaikie (Winnipeg Transcona), one concerning nuclear weapons (No. 362-1155);

-- by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yellowhead), one concerning pornography (No. 362-1156) and three concerning marriage (Nos. 362-1157 to 362- 1159).

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Axworthy (Minister of Foreign Affairs), seconded by Ms. Bradshaw (Minister of Labour), -- That Bill C-19, An Act respecting genocide, crimes against humanity and war crimes and to implement the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court, and to make consequential amendments to other Acts, be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs and International Trade.

The debate continued.

The question was put on the motion and, pursuant to Standing Order 45, the recorded division was deferred until Monday, May 8, 2000, at the ordinary hour of daily adjournment.


The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance), seconded by Ms. Copps (Minister of Canadian Heritage), -- That Bill C-32, An Act to implement certain provisions of the budget tabled in Parliament on February 28, 2000, be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Finance.

The debate continued.

The question was put on the motion and, pursuant to Standing Order 45, the recorded division was deferred until Monday, May 8, 2000, at the ordinary hour of daily adjournment.


The House resumed consideration at report stage of Bill C-22, An Act to facilitate combatting the laundering of proceeds of crime, to establish the Financial Transactions and Reports Analysis Centre of Canada and to amend and repeal certain Acts in consequence, as reported by the Standing Committee on Finance with amendments;

And of motions in Group No. 2.

Group No. 2

Motion No. 2 of Mr. Marceau (Charlesbourg), seconded by Ms. Venne (Saint-Bruno -- Saint-Hubert), -- That Bill C-22 be amended by adding after line 47 on page 10 the following new clause:

      "19.1 If an officer decides, on grounds that the officer believes to be reasonable, to exercise any of the powers or perform any of the duties or functions under subsections 15(1) and (3), 16(1) and (2), 17(1) and 18(1), the officer shall record in writing the reasons for the decision."

Amendment to Motion No. 2 of Mr. McGuire (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Agriculture and Agri-Food), seconded by Mr. Lee (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), -- That Motion No. 2 be amended by replacing all of the words after the words "If an officer decides" with the following:

    "to exercise powers under subsection 18(1), the officer shall record in writing reasons for the decision."

Motion No. 3 of Mr. Marceau (Charlesbourg), seconded by Ms. Venne (Saint-Bruno -- Saint-Hubert), -- That Bill C-22, in Clause 36, be amended by adding after line 22 on page 17 the following:

      "(3.1) If an officer decides, on grounds that the officer believes to be reasonable, to disclose information under subsection (2) or (3), the officer shall record in writing the reasons for the decision."

Amendment to Motion No. 3 of Mr. McGuire (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Agriculture and Agri-Food), seconded by Mr. Lee (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), -- That Motion No. 3 be amended by deleting the following words:

    ", on grounds that the officer believes to be reasonable,"

Motion No. 4 of Mr. Marceau (Charlesbourg), seconded by Ms. Venne (Saint-Bruno -- Saint-Hubert), -- That Bill C-22, in Clause 55, be amended by adding after line 5 on page 26 the following:

      "(5.1) The Centre shall record in writing the reasons for all decisions to disclose information made under subsection (3) or paragraph (4)(a) or (5)(a)."

The debate continued on the motions in Group No. 2.

The question was put on the amendment to Motion No. 2 and it was agreed to on division.

The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 2, as amended, of Mr. Marceau (Charlesbourg), seconded by Ms. Venne (Saint-Bruno -- Saint-Hubert), -- That Bill C-22 be amended by adding after line 47 on page 10 the following new clause:

      ``19.1 If an officer decides to exercise powers under subsection 18(1), the officer shall record in writing reasons for the decision.''

The question was put on Motion No. 2, as amended, and it was agreed to.

The question was put on the amendment to Motion No. 3 and it was agreed to.

The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 3, as amended, of Mr. Marceau (Charlesbourg), seconded by Ms. Venne (Saint-Bruno -- Saint-Hubert), -- That Bill C-22, in Clause 36, be amended by adding after line 22 on page 17 the following:

      ``(3.1) If an officer decides to disclose information under subsection (2) or (3), the officer shall record in writing the reasons for the decision.''

The question was put on Motion No. 3, as amended, and it was agreed to.

Accordingly, Motion No. 4 was also agreed to.

Group No. 3

Mr. Marceau (Charlesbourg), seconded by Mr. Perron (Rivière- des-Mille-Îles), moved Motion No. 8, -- That Bill C-22, in Clause 71, be amended

    (a) by replacing line 32 on page 37 with the following:
        "71. (1) The Director shall, on or before Septem-"
    (b) by adding after line 40 on page 37 the following:
        "(2) The report referred to in subsection (1) shall include a copy of the instructions and regulations governing the exercise of powers and the performance of duties and functions under this Act which could affect human rights and freedoms."

Mr. Gallaway (Sarnia -- Lambton), seconded by Mr. Charbonneau (Anjou -- Rivière-des-Prairies), moved Motion No. 9, -- That Bill C- 22, in Clause 71, be amended

    (a) by replacing line 32 on page 37 with the following:
        "71. (1) The Director shall, on or before Septem-"
    (b) by adding after line 40 on page 37 the following:
        "(2) The annual report stands referred to the committee of Parliament that is designated or established for that purpose. The committee shall review the report and the operations of the Centre and report to Parliament within 90 days after the tabling of the annual report by the Minister or any further time that Parliament may authorize."

Mr. Marceau (Charlesbourg), seconded by Mr. Perron (Rivière- des-Mille-Îles), moved Motion No. 10, -- That Bill C-22 be amended by adding after line 40 on page 37 the following new clause:

      "71.1 (1) The Director shall, on or before September 30 of each year following the Centre's first full year of operations, submit a report to the Privacy Commissioner on the measures taken by the Centre to ensure the confidentiality of any personal information obtained in the course of its operations.
      (2) The Commissioner shall, within three months after receiving the report, submit to Parliament the Commissioner's opinion on the report."

Mr. Gallaway (Sarnia -- Lambton), seconded by Mr. Charbonneau (Anjou -- Rivière-des-Prairies), moved Motion No. 11, -- That Bill C-22, in Clause 72, be amended by replacing lines 1 to 9 on page 38 with the following:

      "72. (1) This Act and the regulations made thereunder shall cease to have effect five years after the day on which section 98 comes into force.
      (2) Within four years after the day on which section 98 comes into force, this Act and the regulations made thereunder shall stand referred to the committee of Parliament that may be designated or established for that purpose. The committee shall, within one year, undertake a comprehensive review of the Act, the regulations and their administration and submit a report to Parliament including any recommendations pertaining to the continuation of, or changes to, the Act, the regulations or their administration that the committee wishes to make."

Debate arose on the motions in Group No. 3.

Mr. Cullen (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Finance), seconded by Mr. Kilger (Stormont-Dundas -- Charlottenburgh), moved the following amendment, -- That Motion No. 8, in paragraph (b), be amended by replacing all of the words after the words "The report referred to in subsection (1) shall include" with the following:

    "a description of the management guidelines and policies of the Centre for the protection of human rights and freedoms."

Debate arose thereon.

Mr. Marceau, seconded by Mr. Perron (Rivière-des-Mille- Îles), moved the following amendment, -- That Motion No. 9, in paragraph (b), be amended by replacing the word ``Parliament'' with the following:

    ``the House of Commons''

Mr. Marceau, seconded by Mr. Perron (Rivière-des-Mille- Îles), moved the following amendment, -- That Motion No. 11, in paragraph (b), be amended by replacing the word ``Parliament'' with the following:

    ``the House of Commons''

Debate arose thereon.

The question was put on the amendment to Motion No. 8 and it was agreed to.

The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 8, as amended, of Mr. Marceau (Charlesbourg), seconded by Mr. Perron (Rivière-des-Mille-Îles), -- That Bill C-22, in Clause 71, be amended

    (a) by replacing line 32 on page 37 with the following:
        ``71.(1) The Director shall, on or before Septem-''
    (b) By adding after line 40 on page 37 the following:
        ``(2) The report referred to in subsection (1) shall include a description of the management guidelines and policies of the Centre for the protection of human rights and freedoms''

The question was put on Motion No. 8, as amended, and it was agreed to.

The question was put on the amendment to Motion No. 9 and it was negatived on division.

The question was put on Motion No. 9 and it was negatived.

The question was put on Motion No. 10 and it was negatived on division.

The question was put on the amendment to Motion No. 11 and it was negatived on division.

The question was put on Motion No. 11 and it was negatived.

Pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division.

Group No. 1

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 1 of Mr. Marceau (Charlesbourg), seconded by Ms. Venne (Saint-Bruno -- Saint-Hubert), -- That Bill C-22 be amended by adding after line 10 on page 3 the following new clause:

      "3.1 The persons and entities to which this Act applies shall not transfer to their clients, either directly or indirectly, any costs incurred by them in carrying out their obligations under this Act."

By unanimous consent, the Order made on Wednesday, May 3, 2000, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8) respecting a recorded division on Motion No. 1 was discharged.

The question was put on Motion No. 1 and it was negatived on division.

Mr. Rock (Minister of Health) for Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance), seconded by Mr. Dion (President of the Queen's Privy Council for Canada and Minister of Intergovernmental Affairs), moved, -- That Bill C-22, An Act to facilitate combatting the laundering of proceeds of crime, to establish the Financial Transactions and Reports Analysis Centre of Canada and to amend and repeal certain Acts in consequence, as amended, be concurred in at report stage with further amendments.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to.

Accordingly, the Bill, as amended, was concurred in at report stage with further amendments.

By unanimous consent, Mr. Dion (President of the Queen's Privy Council for Canada and Minister of Intergovernmental Affairs) for Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance), seconded by Mr. Manley (Minister of Industry), moved, -- That Bill C-22, An Act to facilitate combatting the laundering of proceeds of crime, to establish the Financial Transactions and Reports Analysis Centre of Canada and to amend and repeal certain Acts in consequence, be now read a third time and do pass.

Debate arose thereon.

STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

ORAL QUESTIONS

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance), seconded by Mr. Manley (Minister of Industry), -- That Bill C-22, An Act to facilitate combatting the laundering of proceeds of crime, to establish the Financial Transactions and Reports Analysis Centre of Canada and to amend and repeal certain Acts in consequence, be now read a third time and do pass.

The debate continued.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to.

Accordingly, the Bill was read the third time and passed.

INTERRUPTION

At 3:48 p.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 3:52 p.m., the sitting resumed.

MOTIONS

By unanimous consent, it was ordered, -- That, notwithstanding any Standing Order, Bill C-445, An Act to change the name of the electoral district of Rimouski -- Mitis, standing in the order of precedence on the Order Paper in the name of Ms. Tremblay (Rimouski -- Mitis), as reported by the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs with an amendment, be further amended in Clause 1 by replacing the words ``Rimouski -- Neigette et La Mitis'' with the following:

    ``Rimouski -- Neigette-et-La Mitis'';

That the Bill, as amended, be deemed to have been concurred in at report stage with a further amendment; and

That the Bill be deemed to have been read a third time and passed.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance), seconded by Mr. Dion (Minister of Intergovernmental Affairs), -- That Bill C-25, An Act to amend the Income Tax Act, the Excise Tax Act and the Budget Implementation Act, 1999, be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Finance.

The debate continued.

Mr. Solberg (Medicine Hat), seconded by Mr. Epp (Elk Island), moved the following amendment, -- That the motion be amended by replacing all the words after the word "That" with the following:

    "this House declines to give second reading to Bill C-25, An Act to amend the Income Tax Act, the Excise Tax Act and the Budget Implementation Act, 1999, since the principle of the Bill does not provide for a Single Rate Tax Plan as proposed in Solution 17".

Debate arose thereon.

Mr. Obhrai (Calgary East), seconded by Mr. Gilmour (Nanaimo- -Alberni), moved the following sub-amendment, -- That the amendment be amended by adding after the words "Solution 17" the following:

    "by the Official Opposition".

Debate arose thereon.

PRIVATE MEMBERS' BUSINESS

At 5:30 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 30(6), the House proceeded to the consideration of Private Members' Business.

Ms. Venne (Saint-Bruno -- Saint-Hubert), seconded by Mr. Turp (Beauharnois -- Salaberry), moved, -- That, in the opinion of this House, the government should introduce amendments to Part III of the Corrections and Conditional Release Act so that the Office of the Correctional Investigator would report directly to Parliament and that its recommendations would be binding rather than simple recommendations. (Private Members' Business M-228)

Debate arose thereon.

Pursuant to Standing Order 96(1), the Order was dropped from the Order Paper.

PETITIONS FILED WITH THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were filed as follows:

-- by Mrs. Stewart (Northumberland), one concerning marriage (No. 362-1160);

-- by Mr. Bélanger (Ottawa -- Vanier), one concerning the Canada Post Corporation (No. 362-1161).

ADJOURNMENT

At 6:05 p.m., the Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow at 10:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).

CORRIGENDA

(Journals No. 89 of Wednesday, May 3, 2000)

At page 1636, the fourth and fifth paragraphs should read as follows:

      "By unanimous consent, Motions Nos. 5, 6 and 7 were withdrawn.
      The debate continued on the motions in Group No. 2 (Motions Nos. 2 to 4)."

At page 1637, the second paragraph shoud read as follows:

      "And of the motions in Group No. 2 (Motions Nos. 2 to 4).''