HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA
37^TH PARLIAMENT, 1^st SESSION

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JOURNALS

No. 110

Tuesday, November 6, 2001

10:00 a.m.

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PRAYERS

DAILY ROUTINE OF BUSINESS

Tabling of Documents

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Regan (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Orders in Council concerning certain appointments made by the Governor General in Council, pursuant to Standing Order 110(1), as follows:

-- P.C. 2001-1926. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-371-2-09. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Agriculture and Agri-Food)

-- P.C. 2001-1919, P.C. 2001-1920, P.C. 2001-1921, P.C. 2001-1922, P.C. 2001-1923 and P.C. 2001-1924. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-371-3-13. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage)

-- P.C. 2001-1932. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-371-8-13. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs and International Trade)

-- P.C. 2001-1933, P.C. 2001-1934, P.C. 2001-1935, P.C. 2001-1936 and P.C. 2001-1937. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540- 371-16-15. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Human Resources Development and the Status of Persons with Disabilities)

-- P.C. 2001-1927, P.C. 2001-1928, P.C. 2001-1929, P.C. 2001-1930 and P.C. 2001-1931. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540- 371-13-11. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights)

-- P.C. 2001-1915. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-371-5-09. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs)

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Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Regan (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table,

-- Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to the following petitions:

-- No. 371-0389 concerning the income tax system. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-371-26-03;

-- No. 371-0398 concerning the Canada Post Corporation. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-371-23-11.

Statements by Ministers

Pursuant to Standing Order 33(1), Mr. Duhamel (Minister of Veterans Affairs) made a statement.

Presenting Reports from Committees

Mr. Adams (Peterborough), from the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs, presented the 37th Report of the Committee, which was as follows:

The Committee recommends, pursuant to Standing Orders 104 and 114, that the following Members be added to the list of Associate Members of Standing Committees:

Canadian Heritage

Stan Keyes

Serge Marcil

Hélène Scherrer

Justice and Human Rights

Geoff Regan

Motions

By unanimous consent, it was resolved, -- That the 37th Report of the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs, presented earlier today, be concurred in.

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By unanimous consent, it was resolved, -- That the 36th Report of the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs, presented to the House on Friday, November 2, 2001, be concurred in.

Presenting Petitions

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were presented as follows:

-- by Mr. Kenney (Calgary Southeast), six concerning Remembrance Day (Nos. 371-0441 to 371-0446);

-- by Mr. Adams (Peterborough), two concerning health care services (Nos. 371-0447 and 371-0448) and one concerning the Canada Post Corporation (No. 371-0449).

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The Order was read for the consideration at report stage of Bill C-10, An Act respecting the national marine conservation areas of Canada, as reported by the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage with amendments.

Pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(5), the Speaker selected and grouped for debate the following motions:

Group No. 1 -- Motions Nos. 1 to 4.

Group No. 2 -- Motions Nos. 5 to 8.

Group No. 1

Mr. Comartin (Windsor -- St. Clair), seconded by Mr. Nystrom (Regina -- Qu'Appelle), moved Motion No. 1, -- That Bill C-10, in Clause 4, be amended by replacing lines 10 to 15 on page 4 with the following:

``4. (1) The purposes of this Act are:

(a) to create a system of representative marine conservation areas for the benefit, education and enjoyment of the people of Canada and the world; and

(b) to protect the ecological integrity of marine conservation areas and reserves."

Mr. Comartin (Windsor -- St. Clair), seconded by Mr. Nystrom (Regina -- Qu'Appelle), moved Motion No. 2, -- That Bill C-10, in Clause 4, be amended by replacing lines 30 to 36 on page 4 with the following:

``(4) For the purpose of achieving ecologically sustainable use and protection of marine resources, marine conservation areas shall be divided into zones, which must include preservation zones that fully protect ecological processes, special features and all marine species that occur in these zones and may include natural environment zones that serve as buffer areas to preservation zones and conservation zones that foster and encourage ecologically sustainable use of marine resources.''

Mr. Burton (Skeena), seconded by Mr. Martin (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca), moved Motion No. 3, -- That Bill C-10, in Clause 4, be amended by adding after line 36 on page 4 the following:

``(5) The Minister shall undertake a mineral exploration review and assessment study prior to establishing any marine conservation area. The results of the Minister's mineral exploration review and assessment study shall be included in the interim management plan for that proposed marine conservation area.''

Mr. Comartin (Windsor -- St. Clair), seconded by Mr. Nystrom (Regina -- Qu'Appelle), moved Motion No. 4, -- That Bill C-10, in Clause 9, be amended by replacing lines 24 to 27 on page 8 with the following:

``considerations of the Minister when considering all aspects of the management of national marine conservation areas shall be the maintenance or restoration of ecological integrity and the precautionary''

Debate arose on the motions in Group No. 1.

By unanimous consent, Motion No. 3 was withdrawn.

By unanimous consent, Ms. Bulte (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Canadian Heritage), seconded by Mr. Burton (Skeena), moved new Motion No. 3, -- That Bill C-10, in Clause 7, be amended by replacing lines 38 to 41 on page 6 with the following:

``ments,

(b) any agreements reached respecting the establishment of the area or reserve,

(c) the results of any assessments of mineral and energy resources undertaken, and

(d) an interim management plan that sets''

The question was put on Motions Nos. 1 to 4 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded divisions were deferred.

Group No. 2

Mr. Comartin (Windsor -- St. Clair), seconded by Mr. Nystrom (Regina -- Qu'Appelle), moved Motion No. 5, -- That Bill C-10, in Clause 12, be amended by adding after line 37 on page 9 the following:

``(c) no person shall dredge or deposit fill within a marine conservation area; and

(d) no person shall engage in blasting within a marine conservation area.''

Mr. Burton (Skeena), seconded by Mr. Abbott (Kootenay- -Columbia), moved Motion No. 6, -- That Bill C-10 be amended by deleting Clause 13.

Mr. Comartin (Windsor -- St. Clair), seconded by Mr. Nystrom (Regina -- Qu'Appelle), moved Motion No. 7, -- That Bill C-10 be amended by adding after line 41 on page 9 the following new clause:

``13.1 (1) No person shall engage in finfish aquaculture within a marine conservation area.

(2) No person shall engage in fishing that involves the use of bottom trawling or dragging gear within a marine conservation area.

(3) No person shall construct or cause to be constructed oil or gas pipelines or power lines within a marine conservation area.

(4) No person shall use acoustic deterrence devices within a marine conservation area.''

Motion No. 8 was not proceeded with.

Debate arose on the motions in Group No. 2.

The question was put on Motions Nos. 5 to 7 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded divisions were deferred.

Pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded divisions.

Pursuant to Standing Order 45, the recorded divisions were further deferred until later today, at the expiry of the time provided for Oral Questions.

PRIVATE MEMBERS' BUSINESS

At 12:59 p.m., by unanimous consent, the House proceeded to the consideration of Private Members' Business.

The Order was read for the second reading and reference to the Standing Committee on Human Resources Development and the Status of Persons with Disabilities of Bill C-340, An Act to amend the Canada Labour Code.

Ms. Guay (Laurentides), seconded by Mr. Dubé (Lévis-et Chutes-de-la-Chaudière), moved, -- That the Bill be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Human Resources Development and the Status of Persons with Disabilities.

Debate arose thereon.

MOTIONS

By unanimous consent, it was ordered, -- That the Member from Joliette be recognized as the first speaker during the emergency debate later this day on the softwood lumber industry, in place of the Member from Kamouraska -- Rivière-du-Loup -- Témiscouata -- Les Basques.

PRIVATE MEMBERS' BUSINESS

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Ms. Guay (Laurentides), seconded by Mr. Dubé (Lévis-et-Chutes- de-la-Chaudière), -- That Bill C-340, An Act to amend the Canada Labour Code, be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Human Resources Development and the Status of Persons with Disabilities.

The debate continued.

Pursuant to Standing Order 96(1), the Order was dropped from the Order Paper.

STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

ORAL QUESTIONS

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

Pursuant to Standing Order 45, the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded divisions at report stage of Bill C-10, An Act respecting the national marine conservation areas of Canada.

Group No. 1

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 1 of Mr. Comartin (Windsor- -St. Clair), seconded by Mr. Nystrom (Regina -- Qu'Appelle), -- That Bill C-10, in Clause 4, be amended by replacing lines 10 to 15 on page 4 with the following:

``4. (1) The purposes of this Act are:

(a) to create a system of representative marine conservation areas for the benefit, education and enjoyment of the people of Canada and the world; and

(b) to protect the ecological integrity of marine conservation areas and reserves.''

The question was put on Motion No. 1 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS 12, NAYS 243

(Division No. 160 -- Vote N^o 160)
YEAS -- POUR

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(Division--Vote N^o 160)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Blaikie -- Comartin -- Davies -- Desjarlais -- Godin -- Lill -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- McDonough -- Nystrom -- Proctor -- Stoffer -- Wasylycia-Leis -- 12

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Adams -- Allard -- Anders -- Anderson --  (Cypress Hills -- Grasslands) -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Bachand --  (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bagnell -- Bailey -- Baker -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélanger -- Bellehumeur -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Benoit -- Bergeron -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Binet -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Borotsik -- Boudria -- Bourgeois -- Bradshaw -- Breitkreuz -- Brien -- Brison -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Burton -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Cadman -- Calder -- Cannis -- Caplan -- Cardin -- Carroll -- Casey -- Casson -- Castonguay -- Catterall -- Chamberlain -- Clark -- Coderre -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Crête -- Cullen -- Cummins -- Cuzner -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Day -- Desrochers -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Doyle -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Dubé -- Duceppe -- Duhamel -- Duncan -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Elley -- Epp -- Farrah -- Finlay -- Fontana -- Forseth -- Fournier -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon --  (Champlain) -- Gagnon --  (Québec) -- Gallant -- Gauthier -- Girard-Bujold -- Godfrey -- Goldring -- Goodale -- Gouk -- Graham -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Guarnieri -- Guay -- Guimond -- Harb -- Harris -- Harvard -- Harvey -- Hearn -- Herron -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hinton -- Hubbard -- Jackson -- Jaffer -- Jennings -- Johnston -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Kenney --  (Calgary Southeast) -- Keyes -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Laframboise -- Lalonde -- Lanctôt -- Lastewka -- Lebel -- LeBlanc -- Lee -- Leung -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- Loubier -- Lunn --  (Saanich -- Gulf Islands) -- Lunney --  (Nanaimo -- Alberni) -- MacAulay -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Macklin -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Manning -- Marceau -- Marcil -- Mark -- Marleau -- Martin --  (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Matthews -- Mayfield -- McCallum -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan -- McNally -- McTeague -- Ménard -- Meredith -- Merrifield -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Mills --  (Toronto -- Danforth) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Moore -- Murphy -- Myers -- Nault -- Neville -- Normand -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Owen -- Pagtakhan -- Pallister -- Paquette -- Paradis -- Patry -- Peric -- Perron -- Peschisolido -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Pickard --  (Chatham -- Kent Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Plamondon -- Pratt -- Proulx -- Provenzano -- Rajotte -- Redman -- Reed --  (Halton) -- Regan -- Reid --  (Lanark -- Carleton) -- Reynolds -- Richardson -- Ritz -- Robillard -- Rocheleau -- Rock -- Roy -- Saada -- Sauvageau -- Savoy -- Scherrer -- Schmidt -- Scott -- Sgro -- Shepherd -- Solberg -- Sorenson -- St. Denis -- St-Hilaire -- St-Jacques -- St-Julien -- Steckle -- Stewart -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibault --  (West Nova) -- Thibeault --  (Saint-Lambert) -- Thompson --  (New Brunswick Southwest) -- Thompson --  (Wild Rose) -- Tirabassi -- Tobin -- Toews -- Tonks -- Torsney -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean -- Saguenay) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Neigette-et-la Mitis) -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Venne -- Volpe -- Wappel -- Wayne -- Whelan -- White --  (North Vancouver) -- Wilfert -- Williams -- Wood -- Yelich -- 243

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Anderson --  (Victoria) -- Asselin -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Bigras -- Cauchon -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 2 of Mr. Comartin (Windsor- -St. Clair), seconded by Mr. Nystrom (Regina -- Qu'Appelle), -- That Bill C-10, in Clause 4, be amended by replacing lines 30 to 36 on page 4 with the following:

``(4) For the purpose of achieving ecologically sustainable use and protection of marine resources, marine conservation areas shall be divided into zones, which must include preservation zones that fully protect ecological processes, special features and all marine species that occur in these zones and may include natural environment zones that serve as buffer areas to preservation zones and conservation zones that foster and encourage ecologically sustainable use of marine resources.''

The question was put on Motion No. 2 and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division No. 161)
YEAS: 12, NAYS: 243. (See list under Division No. 160)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on new Motion No. 3 of Ms. Bulte (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Canadian Heritage), seconded by Mr. Burton (Skeena), -- That Bill C-10, in Clause 7, be amended by replacing lines 38 to 41 on page 6 with the following:

``ments,

(b) any agreements reached respecting the establishment of the area or reserve,

(c) the results of any assessments of mineral and energy resources undertaken, and

(d) an interim management plan that sets''

The question was put on new Motion No. 3 and it was agreed to on the following division:

YEAS 220, NAYS 35

(Division No. 162 -- Vote N^o 162)
YEAS -- POUR

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(Division--Vote N^o 162)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Adams -- Allard -- Anders -- Anderson --  (Cypress Hills -- Grasslands) -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Bachand --  (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bagnell -- Bailey -- Baker -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélanger -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Benoit -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Binet -- Blaikie -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Borotsik -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Breitkreuz -- Brison -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Burton -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Cadman -- Calder -- Cannis -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Casey -- Casson -- Castonguay -- Catterall -- Chamberlain -- Clark -- Coderre -- Collenette -- Comartin -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Cullen -- Cummins -- Cuzner -- Davies -- Day -- Desjarlais -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Doyle -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Duhamel -- Duncan -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Elley -- Epp -- Farrah -- Finlay -- Fontana -- Forseth -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gallant -- Godfrey -- Godin -- Goldring -- Goodale -- Gouk -- Graham -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Harris -- Harvard -- Harvey -- Hearn -- Herron -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hinton -- Hubbard -- Jackson -- Jaffer -- Jennings -- Johnston -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Kenney --  (Calgary Southeast) -- Keyes -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- LeBlanc -- Lee -- Leung -- Lill -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- Lunn --  (Saanich -- Gulf Islands) -- Lunney --  (Nanaimo -- Alberni) -- MacAulay -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Macklin -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Manning -- Marcil -- Mark -- Marleau -- Martin --  (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- Matthews -- Mayfield -- McCallum -- McCormick -- McDonough -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan -- McNally -- McTeague -- Meredith -- Merrifield -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Mills --  (Toronto -- Danforth) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Moore -- Murphy -- Myers -- Nault -- Neville -- Normand -- Nystrom -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Owen -- Pagtakhan -- Pallister -- Paradis -- Patry -- Peric -- Peschisolido -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Pickard --  (Chatham -- Kent Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Proctor -- Proulx -- Provenzano -- Rajotte -- Redman -- Reed --  (Halton) -- Regan -- Reid --  (Lanark -- Carleton) -- Reynolds -- Richardson -- Ritz -- Robillard -- Rock -- Saada -- Savoy -- Scherrer -- Schmidt -- Scott -- Sgro -- Shepherd -- Solberg -- Sorenson -- St. Denis -- St-Jacques -- St-Julien -- Steckle -- Stewart -- Stinson -- Stoffer -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibault --  (West Nova) -- Thibeault --  (Saint-Lambert) -- Thompson --  (New Brunswick Southwest) -- Thompson --  (Wild Rose) -- Tirabassi -- Tobin -- Toews -- Tonks -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Volpe -- Wappel -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Wayne -- Whelan -- White --  (North Vancouver) -- Wilfert -- Williams -- Wood -- Yelich -- 220

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Bellehumeur -- Bergeron -- Bourgeois -- Brien -- Cardin -- Crête -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Desrochers -- Dubé -- Duceppe -- Fournier -- Gagnon --  (Champlain) -- Gagnon --  (Québec) -- Gauthier -- Girard-Bujold -- Guay -- Guimond -- Laframboise -- Lalonde -- Lanctôt -- Lebel -- Loubier -- Marceau -- Ménard -- Paquette -- Perron -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Rocheleau -- Roy -- Sauvageau -- St-Hilaire -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean -- Saguenay) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Neigette-et-la Mitis) -- Venne -- 35

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Anderson --  (Victoria) -- Asselin -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Bigras -- Cauchon -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 4 of Mr. Comartin (Windsor -- St. Clair), seconded by Mr. Nystrom (Regina -- Qu'Appelle), -- That Bill C-10, in Clause 9, be amended by replacing lines 24 to 27 on page 8 with the following:

``considerations of the Minister when considering all aspects of the management of national marine conservation areas shall be the maintenance or restoration of ecological integrity and the precautionary''

The question was put on Motion No. 4 and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division No. 163)
YEAS: 12, NAYS: 243. (See list under Division No. 160)

Group No. 2

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 5 of Mr. Comartin (Windsor -- St. Clair), seconded by Mr. Nystrom (Regina -- Qu'Appelle), -- That Bill C-10, in Clause 12, be amended by adding after line 37 on page 9 the following:

``(c) no person shall dredge or deposit fill within a marine conservation area; and

(d) no person shall engage in blasting within a marine conservation area.''

The question was put on Motion No. 5 and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division No. 164)
YEAS: 12, NAYS: 243. (See list under Division No. 160)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 6 of Mr. Burton (Skeena), seconded by Mr. Abbott (Kootenay -- Columbia), -- That Bill C-10 be amended by deleting Clause 13.

The question was put on Motion No. 6 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS 48, NAYS 207

(Division No. 165 -- Vote N^o 165)
YEAS -- POUR

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(Division--Vote N^o 165)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Anders -- Anderson --  (Cypress Hills -- Grasslands) -- Bailey -- Benoit -- Breitkreuz -- Burton -- Cadman -- Casson -- Cummins -- Day -- Duncan -- Elley -- Epp -- Forseth -- Gallant -- Goldring -- Gouk -- Grewal -- Harris -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hinton -- Jaffer -- Johnston -- Kenney --  (Calgary Southeast) -- Lunn --  (Saanich -- Gulf Islands) -- Lunney --  (Nanaimo -- Alberni) -- Manning -- Martin --  (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Mayfield -- Merrifield -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Moore -- Pallister -- Peschisolido -- Rajotte -- Reid --  (Lanark -- Carleton) -- Reynolds -- Ritz -- Schmidt -- Solberg -- Sorenson -- Stinson -- Thompson --  (Wild Rose) -- Toews -- White --  (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- Yelich -- 48

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Allard -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Bachand --  (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bagnell -- Baker -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélanger -- Bellehumeur -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Bergeron -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Binet -- Blaikie -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Borotsik -- Boudria -- Bourgeois -- Bradshaw -- Brien -- Brison -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Calder -- Cannis -- Caplan -- Cardin -- Carroll -- Casey -- Castonguay -- Catterall -- Chamberlain -- Clark -- Coderre -- Collenette -- Comartin -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Crête -- Cullen -- Cuzner -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Davies -- Desjarlais -- Desrochers -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Doyle -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Dubé -- Duceppe -- Duhamel -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Farrah -- Finlay -- Fontana -- Fournier -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon --  (Champlain) -- Gagnon --  (Québec) -- Gauthier -- Girard-Bujold -- Godfrey -- Godin -- Goodale -- Graham -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Guarnieri -- Guay -- Guimond -- Harb -- Harvard -- Harvey -- Hearn -- Herron -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hubbard -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Keyes -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Laframboise -- Lalonde -- Lanctôt -- Lastewka -- Lebel -- LeBlanc -- Lee -- Leung -- Lill -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- Loubier -- MacAulay -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Macklin -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marceau -- Marcil -- Mark -- Marleau -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- Matthews -- McCallum -- McCormick -- McDonough -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan -- McNally -- McTeague -- Ménard -- Meredith -- Mills --  (Toronto -- Danforth) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murphy -- Myers -- Nault -- Neville -- Normand -- Nystrom -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Owen -- Pagtakhan -- Paquette -- Paradis -- Patry -- Peric -- Perron -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Pickard --  (Chatham -- Kent Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Plamondon -- Pratt -- Proctor -- Proulx -- Provenzano -- Redman -- Reed --  (Halton) -- Regan -- Richardson -- Robillard -- Rocheleau -- Rock -- Roy -- Saada -- Sauvageau -- Savoy -- Scherrer -- Scott -- Sgro -- Shepherd -- St. Denis -- St-Hilaire -- St-Jacques -- St-Julien -- Steckle -- Stewart -- Stoffer -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibault --  (West Nova) -- Thibeault --  (Saint-Lambert) -- Thompson --  (New Brunswick Southwest) -- Tirabassi -- Tobin -- Tonks -- Torsney -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean -- Saguenay) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Neigette-et-la Mitis) -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Venne -- Volpe -- Wappel -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Wayne -- Whelan -- Wilfert -- Wood -- 207

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Anderson --  (Victoria) -- Asselin -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Bigras -- Cauchon -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 7 of Mr. Comartin (Windsor -- St. Clair), seconded by Mr. Nystrom (Regina -- Qu'Appelle), -- That Bill C-10 be amended by adding after line 41 on page 9 the following new clause:

``13.1 (1) No person shall engage in finfish aquaculture within a marine conservation area.

(2) No person shall engage in fishing that involves the use of bottom trawling or dragging gear within a marine conservation area.

(3) No person shall construct or cause to be constructed oil or gas pipelines or power lines within a marine conservation area.

(4) No person shall use acoustic deterrence devices within a marine conservation area.''

The question was put on Motion No. 7 and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division No. 166)
YEAS: 12, NAYS: 243. (See list under Division No. 160)

Ms. Copps (Minister of Canadian Heritage), seconded by Mr. Boudria (Minister of State and Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) moved, -- That C-10, An Act respecting the national marine conservation areas of Canada, as amended, be concurred in at report stage with a further amendment.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:

YEAS 161, NAYS 94

(Division No. 167 -- Vote N^o 167)
YEAS -- POUR

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(Division--Vote N^o 167)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Allard -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Bachand --  (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bagnell -- Baker -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélanger -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Binet -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Borotsik -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Brison -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Calder -- Cannis -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Casey -- Castonguay -- Catterall -- Chamberlain -- Clark -- Coderre -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Cullen -- Cuzner -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Doyle -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Duhamel -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Farrah -- Finlay -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Graham -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Harvard -- Harvey -- Hearn -- Herron -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hubbard -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Keyes -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- LeBlanc -- Lee -- Leung -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- Lunn --  (Saanich -- Gulf Islands) -- MacAulay -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Macklin -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marcil -- Mark -- Marleau -- Matthews -- McCallum -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan -- McNally -- McTeague -- Meredith -- Mills --  (Toronto -- Danforth) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murphy -- Myers -- Nault -- Neville -- Normand -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Owen -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Patry -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Pickard --  (Chatham -- Kent Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Proulx -- Provenzano -- Redman -- Reed --  (Halton) -- Regan -- Richardson -- Robillard -- Rock -- Saada -- Savoy -- Scherrer -- Scott -- Sgro -- Shepherd -- St. Denis -- St-Jacques -- St-Julien -- Steckle -- Stewart -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibault --  (West Nova) -- Thibeault --  (Saint-Lambert) -- Thompson --  (New Brunswick Southwest) -- Tirabassi -- Tobin -- Tonks -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Volpe -- Wappel -- Wayne -- Whelan -- Wilfert -- Wood -- 161

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Anders -- Anderson --  (Cypress Hills -- Grasslands) -- Bailey -- Bellehumeur -- Benoit -- Bergeron -- Blaikie -- Bourgeois -- Breitkreuz -- Brien -- Burton -- Cadman -- Cardin -- Casson -- Comartin -- Crête -- Cummins -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Davies -- Day -- Desjarlais -- Desrochers -- Dubé -- Duceppe -- Duncan -- Elley -- Epp -- Forseth -- Fournier -- Gagnon --  (Champlain) -- Gagnon --  (Québec) -- Gallant -- Gauthier -- Girard-Bujold -- Godin -- Goldring -- Gouk -- Grewal -- Guay -- Guimond -- Harris -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hinton -- Jaffer -- Johnston -- Kenney --  (Calgary Southeast) -- Laframboise -- Lalonde -- Lanctôt -- Lebel -- Lill -- Loubier -- Lunney --  (Nanaimo -- Alberni) -- Manning -- Marceau -- Martin --  (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- Mayfield -- McDonough -- Ménard -- Merrifield -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Moore -- Nystrom -- Pallister -- Paquette -- Perron -- Peschisolido -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Proctor -- Rajotte -- Reid --  (Lanark -- Carleton) -- Reynolds -- Ritz -- Rocheleau -- Roy -- Sauvageau -- Schmidt -- Solberg -- Sorenson -- St-Hilaire -- Stinson -- Stoffer -- Thompson --  (Wild Rose) -- Toews -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean -- Saguenay) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Neigette-et-la Mitis) -- Venne -- Wasylycia-Leis -- White --  (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- Yelich -- 94

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Anderson --  (Victoria) -- Asselin -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Bigras -- Cauchon -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast)

Accordingly, the Bill, as amended, was concurred in at report stage with a further amendment.

EMERGENCY DEBATE

Pursuant to Standing Order 52(10) and Order made Thursday, November 1, 2001, the House proceeded to the consideration of a motion to adjourn the House for the purpose of discussing a specfic and important matter requiring urgent consideration, namely, the softwood lumber industry.

Mr. Crête (Kamouraska -- Rivière-du-Loup -- Témiscouata -- Les Basques), seconded by Mr. Paquette (Joliette), moved, -- That this House do now adjourn.

Debate arose thereon.

MESSAGES FROM THE SENATE

A Message was received from the Senate informing this House that the Senate has passed the following Bill, to which the concurrence of the House is desired:

S-33, An Act to amend the Carriage by Air Act.

EMERGENCY DEBATE

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Crête (Kamouraska -- Rivière-du-Loup -- Témiscouata -- Les Basques), seconded by Mr. Paquette (Joliette), -- That this House do now adjourn.

The debate continued.

At 11:24 p.m., the Speaker declared the motion adopted.

RETURNS AND REPORTS DEPOSITED WITH THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(1), a paper deposited with the Clerk of the House was laid upon the Table as follows:

-- by Mr. Manley (Minister of Foreign Affairs) -- Reports of the International Centre for Human Rights and Democratic Development for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2001, pursuant to the Access to Information Act and to the Privacy Act, R.S. 1985, c. A-1 and P-21, sbs. 72(2). -- Sessional Paper No. 8561-371-619-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights)

ADJOURNMENT

At 11:24 p.m., the Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow at 2:00 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).