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HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA
37th PARLIAMENT, 1st SESSION


JOURNALS

No. 135

Wednesday, January 30, 2002

2:00 p.m.



Prayers

National Anthem

Statements By Members

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

Oral Questions

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

Board of Internal Economy

The Speaker informed the House that, pursuant to the Act to amend the Parliament of Canada Act, Chapter 32, Statutes of Canada, 1997, Mr. White (Langley--Abbotsford) has been appointed a member of the Board of Internal Economy to replace Mr. Reynolds (West Vancouver--Sunshine Coast) .

Motions

By unanimous consent, it was ordered, — That the House proceed immediately to the consideration of Ways and Means motion No. 14.

Ways and Means

The Order was read for consideration of a Ways and Means motion to implement certain provisions of the budget tabled in Parliament on December 10, 2001 (Sessional Paper No. 8570-371-19), notice of which was laid upon the Table on Tuesday, January 29, 2002. (Ways and Means Proceedings No. 14)

Mr. McCallum (Secretary of State (International Financial Institutions)) , seconded by Mr. Eggleton (Minister of National Defence) , moved, — That the motion be concurred in.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:

(Division No. 218 -- Vote No 218)

YEAS: 138, NAYS: 96

YEAS -- POUR
Adams
Alcock
Allard
Anderson (Victoria)
Assad
Assadourian
Augustine
Bagnell
Baker
Barnes
Beaumier
Bélair
Bellemare
Bennett
Bertrand
Binet
Blondin-Andrew
Bonin
Boudria
Bradshaw
Brown
Bryden
Bulte
Byrne
Calder
Cannis
Caplan
Carignan
Carroll
Castonguay
Catterall
Cauchon
Chamberlain
Charbonneau
Chrétien
Coderre
Collenette
Comuzzi
Copps
Cotler
Cullen
Cuzner
Dhaliwal
Dion
Discepola
Dromisky
Drouin
Duplain
Eggleton
Farrah
Finlay
Folco
Fontana
Gallaway
Godfrey
Goodale
Grose
Guarnieri
Harb
Harvard
Harvey
Hubbard
Ianno
Jackson
Jennings
Jordan
Karetak-Lindell
Keyes
Kilger (Stormont--Dundas--Charlottenburgh)
Kilgour (Edmonton Southeast)
Knutson
Lastewka
Lavigne
Lee
Leung
Lincoln
Longfield
MacAulay
Macklin
Mahoney
Malhi
Maloney
Manley
Marcil
Martin (LaSalle--Émard)
Matthews
McCallum
McCormick
McGuire
McKay (Scarborough East)
McLellan
McTeague
Mitchell
Murphy
Myers
Neville
Normand
O'Brien (London--Fanshawe)
O'Reilly
Owen
Pagtakhan
Paradis
Parrish
Peric
Pettigrew
Phinney
Pickard (Chatham--Kent Essex)
Pratt
Proulx
Provenzano
Reed (Halton)
Regan
Richardson
Robillard
Saada
Savoy
Scherrer
Scott
Sgro
Speller
St-Julien
St. Denis
Steckle
Stewart
Szabo
Telegdi
Thibeault (Saint-Lambert)
Tirabassi
Tonks
Torsney
Ur
Valeri
Vanclief
Volpe
Wappel
Whelan
Wilfert
Wood -- 138
NAYS -- CONTRE
Abbott
Anders
Anderson (Cypress Hills--Grasslands)
Asselin
Bailey
Bellehumeur
Bergeron
Blaikie
Borotsik
Bourgeois
Breitkreuz
Brien
Brison
Cadman
Cardin
Casey
Casson
Chatters
Clark
Crête
Dalphond-Guiral
Davies
Desjarlais
Desrochers
Doyle
Dubé
Duceppe
Duncan
Elley
Epp
Forseth
Fournier
Gagnon (Québec)
Gallant
Gauthier
Girard-Bujold
Goldring
Grewal
Grey (Edmonton North)
Guay
Guimond
Hanger
Hearn
Hill (Prince George--Peace River)
Hilstrom
Hinton
Jaffer
Johnston
Keddy (South Shore)
Kenney (Calgary Southeast)
Laframboise
Lalonde
Lanctôt
Lebel
Lill
Lunn (Saanich--Gulf Islands)
Lunney (Nanaimo--Alberni)
MacKay (Pictou--Antigonish--Guysborough)
Mark
Martin (Winnipeg Centre)
McDonough
McNally
Ménard
Meredith
Merrifield
Moore
Nystrom
Pallister
Pankiw
Perron
Picard (Drummond)
Plamondon
Proctor
Reid (Lanark--Carleton)
Reynolds
Ritz
Rocheleau
Roy
Sauvageau
Schmidt
Skelton
Solberg
Spencer
St-Hilaire
Stoffer
Strahl
Thompson (New Brunswick Southwest)
Toews
Tremblay (Rimouski-Neigette-et-la Mitis)
Venne
Wasylycia-Leis
Wayne
White (Langley--Abbotsford)
White (North Vancouver)
Williams
Yelich -- 96
PAIRED -- PAIRÉS
Bachand (Saint-Jean)
Bakopanos
Bevilacqua
Bigras
Caccia
DeVillers
Gagnon (Champlain)
Graham
Loubier
Marceau
Paquette
Patry
Price
Tremblay (Lac-Saint-Jean--Saguenay)

Daily Routine Of Business

Tabling of Documents

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Regan (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, — Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to the following petitions:

— No. 371-0409 concerning abortion. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-371-11-04;

— No. 371-0452 concerning the theft of motor vehicles. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-371-83-01;

— Nos. 371-0469, 371-0488 and 371-0506 concerning pornography. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-371-27-04;

— No. 371-0481 concerning the education system. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-371-84-01;

— Nos. 371-0494 and 371-0497 concerning the Employment Insurance program. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-371-4-08;

— No. 371-0496 concerning gun control. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-371-12-02;

— No. 371-0520 concerning missing persons. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-371-85-01.

Presenting Reports from Inter-parliamentary Delegations

Pursuant to Standing Order 34(1), Mrs. Parrish (Mississauga Centre) presented the Report of the Canadian NATO Parliamentary Association respecting its participation at the meeting of the Sub-Committee on Future Security and Defence Capabilities of the NATO Parliamentary Assembly, held in Romania and Bulgaria from December 9 to 13, 2001. — Sessional Paper No. 8565-371-50-10.

Introduction of Private Members' Bills

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. MacKay (Pictou--Antigonish--Guysborough) , seconded by Mr. Hill (Prince George--Peace River) , Bill C-424, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (breach of a conditional sentence order), was read the first time and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.


Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. MacKay (Pictou--Antigonish--Guysborough) , seconded by Mr. Hill (Prince George--Peace River) , Bill C-425, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (keeping child pornography in a manner that is not reasonably secure from access by others), was read the first time and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.


Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Bailey (Souris--Moose Mountain) , seconded by Mr. Johnston (Wetaskiwin) , Bill C-426, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (destruction or desecration of national flag), was read the first time and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Presenting Petitions

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were presented as follows:

— by Mr. Adams (Peterborough) , one concerning health care services (No. 371-0542) and one concerning housing policy (No. 371-0543);

— by Mrs. Tremblay (Rimouski--Neigette-et-la Mitis) , one concerning terrorism (No. 371-0544);

— by Mr. Stoffer (Sackville--Musquodoboit Valley--Eastern Shore) , one concerning the protection of the environment (No. 371-0545);

— by Mr. Keddy (South Shore) , one concerning the Royal Canadian Mint (No. 371-0546);

— by Mrs. Ur (Lambton--Kent--Middlesex) , one concerning gasoline additives (No. 371-0547) and one concerning capital punishment (No. 371-0548).

Questions on Order Paper

Mr. Regan (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) presented the answers to questions Q-85 and Q-92 on the Order Paper.


Pursuant to Standing Order 39(7), Mr. Regan (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) presented the Returns to the following questions made into Orders for Returns:

    Q-81 — Mr. St-Julien (Abitibi--Baie-James--Nunavik) — Can Natural Resources Canada provide a breakdown by province of each of the department's votes in the 2001-02 Main Estimates, for each of the following industrial sectors: (a) energy; (b) forests; (c) minerals; (d) metals; and (e) geomatics? — Sessional Paper No. 8555-371-81.

    Q-82 — Mr. St-Julien (Abitibi--Baie-James--Nunavik) — Can Natural Resources Canada provide a breakdown by province of each of the department's votes in the 2001-02 Supplementary Estimates (A), for each of the following industrial sectors: (a) energy; (b) forests; (c) minerals; (d) metals; and (e) geomatics? — Sessional Paper No. 8555-371-82.

    Q-94 — Mr. Goldring (Edmonton Centre-East) — For the wholly owned subsidiary of the Canada Lands Company Ltd., located at 200 King Street West in Toronto, can the government provide a list of federal surplus properties disposed of by year and federal constituency since January 1, 1993, including the description of each property, the date each property was put on the market and the date of sale, the asking/proposed and the final selling price of each property, the name and address of each buyer and the process by which it was sold (e.g. sealed bids, noncompetitive, sole source, etc.)? — Sessional Paper No. 8555-371-94.

Notices of Motions for the Production of Papers

The Notice of Motion for the Production of Papers P-34 was called pursuant to Standing Order 97(1) and was transferred by the Clerk to ''Notices of Motions (Papers)''.

Government Orders

The Order was read for the consideration of the amendment made by the Senate to Bill C-7, An Act in respect of criminal justice for young persons and to amend and repeal other Acts.

Mr. Cauchon (Minister of Justice) , seconded by Mr. Byrne (Minister of State (Atlantic Canada Opportunities Agency)) , moved, — That the amendment made by the Senate to Bill C-7, An Act in respect of criminal justice for young persons and to amend and repeal other Acts, be now read a second time and concurred in.

Debate arose thereon.

Mr. Bellehumeur (Berthier--Montcalm) , seconded by Ms. Gagnon (Québec) , moved the following amendment, — That the motion be amended by deleting all the words after the word “That” and substituting the following:

    "the amendment made by the Senate to Bill C-7, An Act in respect of criminal justice for young persons and to amend and repeal other Acts, be not now read a second time and concurred in, since it does not in any way take into consideration the distinct character of Quebec and the Quebec model for implementation of the Young Offenders Act.".

Debate arose thereon.

Private Members' Business

At 5:30 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 30(6), the House proceeded to the consideration of Private Members' Business.

The Order was read for the consideration at report stage of Bill S-14, An Act respecting Sir John A. Macdonald Day and Sir Wilfrid Laurier Day, as reported by the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage without amendment.

Mr. Godfrey (Don Valley West) , seconded by Mr. Wilfert (Oak Ridges) , moved, — That Bill S-14, An Act respecting Sir John A. Macdonald Day and Sir Wilfrid Laurier Day, be concurred in at report stage.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on division.

Accordingly, the Bill was concurred in at report stage.

Pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(11), Mr. Godfrey (Don Valley West) , seconded by Mr. Wilfert (Oak Ridges) , moved, — That the Bill be now read a third time and do pass.

Debate arose thereon.

Pursuant to Standing Order 93, the Order was dropped to the bottom of the order of precedence on the Order Paper.

Adjournment Proceedings

At 6:30 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 38(1), the question "That this House do now adjourn" was deemed to have been proposed.

After debate, the question was deemed to have been adopted.

Accordingly, at 6:42 p.m., the Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow at 10:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).