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HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA
37th PARLIAMENT, 1st SESSION


JOURNALS

No. 139

Tuesday, February 5, 2002

10:00 a.m.



Prayers

Daily Routine Of Business

Tabling of Documents

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Regan (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, — Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to the following petitions:

— No. 371-0510 concerning the situation in the Middle East. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-371-22-06;

— No. 371-0517 concerning Canada's railways. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-371-38-16.

Introduction of Government Bills

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. McCallum (Secretary of State (International Financial Institutions)) for Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance) , seconded by Mr. Goodale (Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) , Bill C-49, An Act to implement certain provisions of the budget tabled in Parliament on December 10, 2001, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Recommendation
(Pursuant to Standing Order 79(2))

Her Excellency the Governor General recommends to the House of Commons the appropriation of public revenue under the circumstances, in the manner and for the purposes set out in a measure entitled "An Act to implement certain provisions of the budget tabled in Parliament on December 10, 2001".


Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Pettigrew (Minister for International Trade) , seconded by Mr. Goodale (Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) , Bill C-50, An Act to amend certain Acts as a result of the accession of the People's Republic of China to the Agreement Establishing the World Trade Organization, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Introduction of Private Members' Bills

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Cannis (Scarborough Centre) , seconded by Mr. Tirabassi (Niagara Centre) , Bill C-429, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (destruction of national flag), was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Presenting Petitions

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were presented as follows:

— by Mr. Adams (Peterborough) , one concerning Canada's railways (No. 371-0555) and one concerning health care services (No. 371-0556).

Privilege

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Pallister (Portage--Lisgar) , seconded by Mr. Reynolds (West Vancouver--Sunshine Coast) , — That the charge against the Minister of National Defence of making misleading statements in the House be referred to the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs;

And of the amendment of Mr. Keddy (South Shore) , seconded by Mr. MacKay (Pictou--Antigonish--Guysborough) , — That the motion be amended by striking out the words “the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs” and substituting the following:

    “a Special Committee of the House, the membership of which will be on the same party ratio as the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs and be elected in each caucus by a secret ballot to be conducted under the direction of the Speaker in a process similar to that used by the House to elect the Speaker.”.

By unanimous consent, it was ordered, — That the debate be now adjourned.

Government Orders

The Order was read for the consideration of the Business of Supply.

Mr. White (Langley--Abbotsford) , seconded by Mr. Cadman (Surrey North) , moved, — That, since the government has failed to give effect to the motion adopted by this House on March 13, 2001, calling for the establishment of a sex offender registry by January 30, 2002, the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights be instructed to prepare and bring in a bill reflecting the spirit and intent of that motion;

That the Committee shall make its report to the House no later than June 1, 2002;

That in its report, the Committee shall recommend the principles, scope and general provisions of the said bill, and may include recommendations regarding legislative wording;

That the tabling of a report pursuant to this Order shall be an Order to bring in a bill based thereon; and

That when a Minister of the Crown, in proposing a motion for first reading of a bill, states that the bill is in response to the recommendations contained in a report pursuant to this Order, the second reading and subsequent stages of the bill shall be considered under Government Orders; or

That when a Private Member, in proposing a motion for first reading of a bill, states that the bill is in response to the recommendations contained in a report pursuant to this Order, the second reading and subsequent stages of the bill shall be considered under Private Members' Business and the bill shall be placed immediately in the order of precedence for Private Members' Business as a votable item.

Debate arose thereon.

Mr. MacKay (Pictou--Antigonish--Guysborough) , seconded by Mr. Hill (Prince George--Peace River) , moved the following amendment, — That the motion be amended by adding after the first occurrence of the word “a” the following:

    “separate and stand alone”.

Debate arose thereon.

Statements By Members

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

Oral Questions

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

Government Orders

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. White (Langley--Abbotsford) , seconded by Mr. Cadman (Surrey North) , in relation to the Business of Supply;

And of the amendment of Mr. MacKay (Pictou--Antigonish--Guysborough) , seconded by Mr. Hill (Prince George--Peace River) .

The debate continued.

At 5:15 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 81(16), the Speaker interrupted the proceedings.

The question was put on the amendment and it was negatived on the following division:

+

(Division No. 224 -- Vote No 224)

YEAS: 94, NAYS: 141

YEAS -- POUR
Anderson (Cypress Hills--Grasslands)
Bachand (Richmond--Arthabaska)
Bachand (Saint-Jean)
Bailey
Bellehumeur
Bergeron
Bigras
Blaikie
Borotsik
Breitkreuz
Brien
Burton
Cardin
Casson
Chatters
Clark
Comartin
Crête
Cummins
Dalphond-Guiral
Davies
Desjarlais
Desrochers
Doyle
Duceppe
Duncan
Elley
Epp
Fitzpatrick
Forseth
Fournier
Gagnon (Champlain)
Gallant
Gauthier
Girard-Bujold
Godin
Grewal
Grey
Guay
Guimond
Hanger
Hearn
Herron
Hill (Prince George--Peace River)
Hilstrom
Jaffer
Johnston
Keddy (South Shore)
Kenney (Calgary Southeast)
Laframboise
Lalonde
Lebel
Loubier
Lunn (Saanich--Gulf Islands)
Lunney (Nanaimo--Alberni)
MacKay (Pictou--Antigonish--Guysborough)
Mark
Martin (Esquimalt--Juan de Fuca)
Martin (Winnipeg Centre)
McDonough
Ménard
Merrifield
Mills (Red Deer)
Moore
Nystrom
Penson
Perron
Plamondon
Proctor
Rajotte
Reid (Lanark--Carleton)
Reynolds
Ritz
Robinson
Rocheleau
Roy
Sauvageau
Schmidt
Skelton
Solberg
Sorenson
Spencer
St-Hilaire
Stoffer
Strahl
Thompson (New Brunswick Southwest)
Thompson (Wild Rose)
Tremblay (Rimouski-Neigette-et-la Mitis)
Vellacott
Venne
White (Langley--Abbotsford)
White (North Vancouver)
Williams
Yelich -- 94
NAYS -- CONTRE
Adams
Alcock
Allard
Anderson (Victoria)
Assad
Assadourian
Augustine
Bagnell
Bakopanos
Beaumier
Bélanger
Bennett
Bertrand
Bevilacqua
Binet
Blondin-Andrew
Bonin
Boudria
Bradshaw
Brown
Bryden
Bulte
Byrne
Caccia
Calder
Carignan
Carroll
Castonguay
Catterall
Cauchon
Chamberlain
Charbonneau
Coderre
Collenette
Comuzzi
Cotler
Cullen
Cuzner
Dhaliwal
Dion
Discepola
Dromisky
Drouin
Easter
Eggleton
Eyking
Farrah
Finlay
Fontana
Fry
Godfrey
Goodale
Graham
Grose
Harb
Harvey
Hubbard
Ianno
Jackson
Jennings
Jordan
Karetak-Lindell
Karygiannis
Keyes
Kilgour (Edmonton Southeast)
Knutson
Kraft Sloan
Lastewka
Lavigne
LeBlanc
Lee
Leung
MacAulay
Macklin
Mahoney
Malhi
Maloney
Manley
Marcil
Marleau
Martin (LaSalle--Émard)
Matthews
McCallum
McCormick
McGuire
McKay (Scarborough East)
McLellan
Mitchell
Murphy
Myers
Nault
Neville
O'Brien (Labrador)
O'Reilly
Owen
Pagtakhan
Paradis
Parrish
Patry
Peric
Peschisolido
Peterson
Pettigrew
Phinney
Pickard (Chatham--Kent Essex)
Pratt
Price
Proulx
Provenzano
Redman
Reed (Halton)
Regan
Richardson
Robillard
Rock
Saada
Savoy
Scherrer
Scott
Serré
Sgro
Shepherd
Speller
St-Jacques
St-Julien
St. Denis
Steckle
Szabo
Telegdi
Thibault (West Nova)
Thibeault (Saint-Lambert)
Tirabassi
Tonks
Torsney
Ur
Valeri
Vanclief
Volpe
Whelan
Wilfert
Wood -- 141
PAIRED -- PAIRÉS
Asselin
Barnes
Bonwick
Bourgeois
Copps
DeVillers
Dubé
Gagnon (Québec)
Gallaway
Harvard
Lanctôt
Lincoln
Marceau
Ménard
Minna
Paquette
Picard (Drummond)
Pillitteri
Tremblay (Lac-Saint-Jean--Saguenay)
Wappel

Pursuant to Standing Order 81(16), the question was put on the main motion and it was negatived on the following division:

+-

(Division No. 225 -- Vote No 225)

YEAS: 82, NAYS: 151.

YEAS -- POUR
Anderson (Cypress Hills--Grasslands)
Bachand (Richmond--Arthabaska)
Bachand (Saint-Jean)
Bailey
Bellehumeur
Bergeron
Bigras
Borotsik
Breitkreuz
Brien
Burton
Cardin
Casson
Chatters
Clark
Crête
Cummins
Dalphond-Guiral
Desrochers
Doyle
Duceppe
Duncan
Elley
Epp
Fitzpatrick
Forseth
Fournier
Gagnon (Champlain)
Gallant
Gauthier
Girard-Bujold
Grewal
Grey
Guay
Guimond
Hanger
Hearn
Herron
Hill (Prince George--Peace River)
Hilstrom
Jaffer
Johnston
Keddy (South Shore)
Laframboise
Lalonde
Lebel
Loubier
Lunn (Saanich--Gulf Islands)
Lunney (Nanaimo--Alberni)
MacKay (Pictou--Antigonish--Guysborough)
Mark
Martin (Esquimalt--Juan de Fuca)
Ménard
Merrifield
Mills (Red Deer)
Moore
Penson
Perron
Plamondon
Rajotte
Reid (Lanark--Carleton)
Reynolds
Ritz
Rocheleau
Roy
Sauvageau
Schmidt
Skelton
Solberg
Sorenson
Spencer
St-Hilaire
Strahl
Thompson (New Brunswick Southwest)
Thompson (Wild Rose)
Tremblay (Rimouski-Neigette-et-la Mitis)
Vellacott
Venne
White (Langley--Abbotsford)
White (North Vancouver)
Williams
Yelich -- 82
NAYS -- CONTRE
Adams
Alcock
Allard
Anderson (Victoria)
Assad
Assadourian
Augustine
Bagnell
Bakopanos
Beaumier
Bélanger
Bennett
Bertrand
Bevilacqua
Binet
Blaikie
Blondin-Andrew
Bonin
Boudria
Bradshaw
Brown
Bryden
Bulte
Byrne
Caccia
Calder
Carignan
Carroll
Castonguay
Catterall
Cauchon
Chamberlain
Charbonneau
Coderre
Collenette
Comartin
Comuzzi
Cotler
Cullen
Cuzner
Davies
Desjarlais
Dhaliwal
Dion
Discepola
Dromisky
Drouin
Easter
Eggleton
Eyking
Farrah
Finlay
Fontana
Fry
Godfrey
Godin
Goodale
Graham
Grose
Harb
Harvey
Hubbard
Ianno
Jackson
Jennings
Jordan
Karetak-Lindell
Karygiannis
Keyes
Kilgour (Edmonton Southeast)
Knutson
Kraft Sloan
Lastewka
Lavigne
LeBlanc
Lee
Leung
MacAulay
Macklin
Mahoney
Malhi
Maloney
Manley
Marcil
Marleau
Martin (Winnipeg Centre)
Martin (LaSalle--Émard)
Matthews
McCallum
McCormick
McDonough
McGuire
McKay (Scarborough East)
McLellan
Mitchell
Murphy
Myers
Nault
Neville
Nystrom
O'Brien (Labrador)
O'Reilly
Owen
Pagtakhan
Paradis
Parrish
Patry
Peric
Peschisolido
Peterson
Pettigrew
Phinney
Pickard (Chatham--Kent Essex)
Pratt
Price
Proctor
Proulx
Redman
Reed (Halton)
Regan
Richardson
Robillard
Robinson
Rock
Saada
Savoy
Scherrer
Scott
Serré
Sgro
Shepherd
Speller
St-Jacques
St-Julien
St. Denis
Steckle
Stoffer
Szabo
Telegdi
Thibault (West Nova)
Thibeault (Saint-Lambert)
Tirabassi
Tonks
Torsney
Ur
Valeri
Vanclief
Volpe
Whelan
Wilfert
Wood -- 151
PAIRED -- PAIRÉS
Asselin
Barnes
Bonwick
Bourgeois
Copps
DeVillers
Dubé
Gagnon (Québec)
Gallaway
Harvard
Lanctôt
Lincoln
Marceau
Ménard
Minna
Paquette
Picard (Drummond)
Pillitteri
Tremblay (Lac-Saint-Jean--Saguenay)
Wappel

PRIVATE MEMBERS' BUSINESS

Pursuant to Order made Thursday, January 31, 2002, the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the motion of Mr. Harvard (Charleswood St. James--Assiniboia) , seconded by Mr. Cotler (Mount Royal) , — That Bill S-7, An Act to amend the Broadcasting Act, be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:

-

(Division No. 226 -- Vote No 226)

YEAS: 186, NAYS: 41

YEAS -- POUR
Adams
Alcock
Allard
Anderson (Victoria)
Assad
Augustine
Bachand (Richmond--Arthabaska)
Bachand (Saint-Jean)
Bagnell
Bakopanos
Bélanger
Bellehumeur
Bennett
Bergeron
Bertrand
Bevilacqua
Bigras
Binet
Blaikie
Blondin-Andrew
Bonin
Borotsik
Boudria
Bradshaw
Brien
Brown
Bryden
Bulte
Byrne
Caccia
Calder
Cardin
Carignan
Carroll
Castonguay
Catterall
Cauchon
Chamberlain
Charbonneau
Clark
Coderre
Collenette
Comartin
Comuzzi
Cotler
Crête
Cullen
Cuzner
Dalphond-Guiral
Davies
Desjarlais
Desrochers
Dhaliwal
Dion
Discepola
Doyle
Dromisky
Drouin
Duceppe
Easter
Eggleton
Eyking
Farrah
Finlay
Fontana
Fournier
Fry
Gagnon (Champlain)
Gauthier
Girard-Bujold
Godfrey
Godin
Goodale
Graham
Grey
Grose
Guay
Guimond
Harb
Harvey
Hearn
Herron
Hill (Prince George--Peace River)
Hubbard
Ianno
Jackson
Jennings
Jordan
Karetak-Lindell
Karygiannis
Keddy (South Shore)
Keyes
Kraft Sloan
Laframboise
Lalonde
Lastewka
Lavigne
Lebel
LeBlanc
Lee
Leung
Loubier
MacAulay
MacKay (Pictou--Antigonish--Guysborough)
Macklin
Mahoney
Malhi
Maloney
Marcil
Mark
Marleau
Martin (Winnipeg Centre)
Martin (LaSalle--Émard)
Matthews
McCallum
McCormick
McDonough
McGuire
McKay (Scarborough East)
McLellan
Ménard
Mitchell
Murphy
Myers
Nault
Neville
Nystrom
O'Reilly
Owen
Pagtakhan
Paradis
Parrish
Patry
Peric
Perron
Peschisolido
Peterson
Pettigrew
Phinney
Pickard (Chatham--Kent Essex)
Plamondon
Pratt
Price
Proctor
Proulx
Redman
Reed (Halton)
Regan
Richardson
Robillard
Robinson
Rocheleau
Rock
Roy
Saada
Sauvageau
Savoy
Scherrer
Scott
Sgro
Shepherd
Speller
St-Hilaire
St-Jacques
St-Julien
St. Denis
Steckle
Stoffer
Strahl
Szabo
Telegdi
Thibault (West Nova)
Thibeault (Saint-Lambert)
Thompson (New Brunswick Southwest)
Tirabassi
Tonks
Torsney
Tremblay (Rimouski-Neigette-et-la Mitis)
Ur
Valeri
Vanclief
Venne
Volpe
Whelan
Wilfert
Wood -- 186
NAYS -- CONTRE
Anderson (Cypress Hills--Grasslands)
Bailey
Beaumier
Breitkreuz
Burton
Casson
Chatters
Cummins
Duncan
Elley
Epp
Fitzpatrick
Forseth
Gallant
Grewal
Hanger
Hilstrom
Jaffer
Johnston
Kenney (Calgary Southeast)
Lunney (Nanaimo--Alberni)
Martin (Esquimalt--Juan de Fuca)
Merrifield
Mills (Red Deer)
Moore
Penson
Rajotte
Reid (Lanark--Carleton)
Reynolds
Ritz
Schmidt
Skelton
Solberg
Sorenson
Spencer
Thompson (Wild Rose)
Vellacott
White (Langley--Abbotsford)
White (North Vancouver)
Williams
Yelich -- 41
PAIRED -- PAIRÉS
Asselin
Barnes
Bonwick
Bourgeois
Copps
DeVillers
Dubé
Gagnon (Québec)
Gallaway
Harvard
Lanctôt
Lincoln
Marceau
Ménard
Minna
Paquette
Picard (Drummond)
Pillitteri
Tremblay (Lac-Saint-Jean--Saguenay)
Wappel

Accordingly, the Bill was read the second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage.

Motions

By unanimous consent, it was ordered, — That Private Member’s Business motion M-422, standing in the order of precedence on the Order Paper in the name of Mr. Cadman (Surrey North), be amended by deleting the words “paragraph 114(1)(s) of the Immigration Act” and substituting the following: “paragraph 101(1)(e) of the Immigration Act”.

Private Members' Business

At 6:13 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 30(7), the House proceeded to the consideration of Private Members' Business.

Mr. Thompson (New Brunswick Southwest) , seconded by Mr. Hearn (St. John's West) , moved, — That an Order of the House do issue for copies of any letters since April 1, 2001 from the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons and/or the Clerk of the Privy Council to Ministers and/or Deputy Ministers concerning answers to questions in the House of Commons. (Private Members' Business P-20)

Debate arose thereon.

Pursuant to Standing Order 90, the Order was dropped to the bottom of the order of precedence on the Order Paper.

Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(1), papers deposited with the Clerk of the House were laid upon the Table as follows:

— by Mr. Eggleton (Minister of National Defence) — Response of the government, pursuant to Standing Order 109, to the Third Report of the Standing Committee on National Defence and Veterans Affairs, “State of Readiness of the Canadian Forces: Response to the Terrorist Threat” (Sessional Paper No. 8510-371-89), presented to the House on Wednesday, November 7, 2001. — Sessional Paper No. 8512-371-89.

— by Mr. Goodale (Minister responsible for the Canadian Wheat Board) — Report of the Canadian Wheat Board, together with the Auditor's Report, for the crop year ended July 31, 2001, pursuant to the Canadian Wheat Board Act, R.S. 1985, c. C-24, sbs. 9(2). — Sessional Paper No. 8560-371-259-02. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Agriculture and Agri-Food)

Adjournment Proceedings

At 7:13 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 38(1), the question "That this House do now adjourn" was deemed to have been proposed.

After debate, the question was deemed to have been adopted.

Accordingly, at 7:22 p.m., the Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow at 2:00 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).