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HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA
37th PARLIAMENT, 1st SESSION


JOURNALS

No. 160

Wednesday, March 20, 2002

2:00 p.m.



Prayers

National Anthem

Statements By Members

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

Oral Questions

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

Private Members' Business

Pursuant to Order made Monday, March 18, 2002, the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the motion of Mr. Thompson (New Brunswick Southwest) , seconded by Mr. Hearn (St. John's West) , — That an Order of the House do issue for copies of any letters since April 1, 2001 from the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons and/or the Clerk of the Privy Council to Ministers and/or Deputy Ministers concerning answers to questions in the House of Commons. (Private Members' Business P-20)

The question was put on the motion and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division No. 263 -- Vote no 263)

YEAS: 74, NAYS: 114

YEAS -- POUR
Abbott
Anders
Asselin
Bachand (Richmond--Arthabaska)
Bachand (Saint-Jean)
Bailey
Bellehumeur
Benoit
Bigras
Bourgeois
Breitkreuz
Brien
Cadman
Cardin
Casey
Casson
Chatters
Clark
Comartin
Crête
Davies
Desjarlais
Dubé
Duceppe
Duncan
Epp
Forseth
Fournier
Gagnon (Québec)
Gagnon (Champlain)
Gauthier
Girard-Bujold
Godin
Grey
Guay
Guimond
Hearn
Herron
Hinton
Johnston
Keddy (South Shore)
Laframboise
Lalonde
Lanctôt
Lebel
Lill
Lunney (Nanaimo--Alberni)
Marceau
Martin (Esquimalt--Juan de Fuca)
Martin (Winnipeg Centre)
McNally
Mills (Red Deer)
Pallister
Pankiw
Paquette
Perron
Picard (Drummond)
Plamondon
Reid (Lanark--Carleton)
Robinson
Rocheleau
Sauvageau
Skelton
Spencer
St-Hilaire
Stinson
Strahl
Thompson (New Brunswick Southwest)
Toews
Venne
Wasylycia-Leis
Wayne
White (Langley--Abbotsford)
Williams -- 74
NAYS -- CONTRE
Alcock
Allard
Anderson (Victoria)
Assad
Augustine
Bagnell
Baker
Barnes
Beaumier
Bélanger
Bertrand
Bevilacqua
Binet
Blondin-Andrew
Bonin
Boudria
Bradshaw
Bryden
Bulte
Byrne
Caccia
Calder
Caplan
Carignan
Castonguay
Catterall
Charbonneau
Coderre
Collenette
Copps
Cullen
Cuzner
DeVillers
Drouin
Duplain
Eggleton
Eyking
Finlay
Fontana
Fry
Godfrey
Goodale
Grose
Harb
Harvard
Harvey
Jackson
Jennings
Jordan
Keyes
Kilgour (Edmonton Southeast)
Laliberte
LeBlanc
Lee
Leung
Lincoln
Longfield
MacAulay
Macklin
Mahoney
Malhi
Manley
Marleau
Matthews
McCallum
McGuire
McKay (Scarborough East)
McLellan
Mills (Toronto--Danforth)
Minna
Mitchell
Murphy
Myers
Nault
Neville
O'Brien (London--Fanshawe)
O'Reilly
Owen
Paradis
Parrish
Peschisolido
Peterson
Phinney
Pillitteri
Pratt
Proulx
Provenzano
Redman
Reed (Halton)
Regan
Richardson
Robillard
Rock
Saada
Scherrer
Scott
Serré
Sgro
Shepherd
Speller
St-Jacques
St-Julien
St. Denis
Stewart
Szabo
Telegdi
Thibault (West Nova)
Thibeault (Saint-Lambert)
Tirabassi
Tonks
Valeri
Vanclief
Wilfert
Wood -- 114
PAIRED -- PAIRÉS
Bergeron
Bonwick
Carroll
Desrochers
Maloney
Manley
Ménard
Pagtakhan
Rocheleau
Roy
Steckle
Tremblay (Lac-Saint-Jean--Saguenay)
Tremblay (Rimouski-Neigette-et-la Mitis)
Wappel

Daily Routine Of Business

Tabling of Documents

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Regan (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, — Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to the following petitions:

— Nos. 371-0584 and 371-0587 concerning environmental pollution. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-371-46-05.

Presenting Reports from Committees

Mr. Saada (Brossard--La Prairie) , from the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs, presented the 49th Report of the Committee, which was as follows:

The Committee recommends, pursuant to Standing Orders 104 and 114, that the following Member be added to the list of Associate Members of the Standing Committee on Finance and of the Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs and International Trade:

Hedy Fry

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings was tabled.

Introduction of Private Members' Bills

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Casson (Lethbridge) , seconded by Mr. Chatters (Athabasca) , Bill C-436, An Act to amend the Canada Transportation Act, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.


Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Pankiw (Saskatoon--Humboldt) , seconded by Mr. Keddy (South Shore) , Bill C-437, An Act to provide that persons who commit a sexual offence involving a child serve the entire sentence imposed without early release or parole and be found to be child predators, and to amend the Corrections and Conditional Release Act and the Criminal Code, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

First Reading of Senate Public Bills

Pursuant to Standing Order 69(2), on motion of Mr. Goodale (Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) , seconded by Mr. McCallum (Secretary of State (International Financial Institutions)) , Bill S-34, An Act respecting royal assent to bills passed by the Houses of Parliament, was read the first time and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.


Pursuant to Standing Order 69(2), on motion of Mr. Goodale (Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) for Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance) , seconded by Mr. McCallum (Secretary of State (International Financial Institutions)) , Bill S-40, An Act to amend the Payment Clearing and Settlement Act, was read the first time and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Motions

By unanimous consent, it was ordered, — That, in relation to its study on the Canadian broadcasting system, the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage be authorized to travel to St. John's, Charlottetown, Moncton, Halifax and Montreal from April 28 to May 3, 2002, and that the necessary staff do accompany the Committee.


By unanimous consent, it was ordered, — That the Special Committee on non-medical use of drugs be authorized to travel and hold hearings in Charlottetown and Halifax from April 14 to April 18, 2002, in relation to its mandate, and that the necessary staff do accompany the Committee.


By unanimous consent, it was resolved, — That the 49th Report of the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs, presented earlier today, be concurred in.

Presenting Petitions

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were presented as follows:

— by Mr. Benoit (Lakeland) , one concerning the criminal justice system (No. 371-0611);

— by Mr. Robinson (Burnaby--Douglas) , one concerning international trade (No. 371-0612) and one concerning nuclear weapons (No. 371-0613).

Notices of Motions for the Production of Papers

It was ordered, — That a humble Address be presented to Her Excellency praying that she will cause to be laid before this House a copy of all documentation related to the sale of federal lands in the province of Quebec by the Canada Lands Corporation between 1997 and 2001. (Notice of Motion for the Production of Papers P-36 — Mr. Pankiw (Saskatoon--Humboldt) )

Mr. Regan (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) presented the Return to this Order. — Sessional Paper No. 8550-371-36.

Government Orders

The House resumed consideration at report stage of Bill C-15B, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (cruelty to animals and firearms) and the Firearms Act, as reported by the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights with amendments;

And of the motions in Group No. 1 (Motions Nos. 1 and 4 to 9).


Group No. 1

Motion No. 1 of Mr. Hilstrom (Selkirk--Interlake) , seconded by Mr. Martin (Esquimalt--Juan de Fuca) , — That Bill C-15B be amended by deleting Clause 8.

Motion No. 4 of Mr. Bryden (Ancaster--Dundas--Flamborough--Aldershot) , seconded by Mr. Maloney (Erie--Lincoln) , — That Bill C-15B, in Clause 8, be amended by replacing line 5 on page 3 with the following:

    “other animal that has the capacity to experience pain.”

Motion No. 5 of Mr. Hilstrom (Selkirk--Interlake) , seconded by Mr. Martin (Esquimalt--Juan de Fuca) , — That Bill C-15B, in Clause 8, be amended by replacing line 7 on page 3 with the following:

    “who, wilfully or recklessly, and in contravention of generally accepted industry standards,”

Motion No. 6 of Ms. McLellan (Minister of Justice) , seconded by Ms. Caplan (Minister of Citizenship and Immigration) , — That Bill C-15B, in Clause 8, be amended by replacing lines 32 to 43 on page 5 and lines 1 to 16 on page 6 with the following:

    " 182.6 (1) In this section, "law enforcement animal" means a dog, a horse or any other animal used by a peace officer or public officer in the execution of their duties.

    (2) Every one commits an offence who wilfully or recklessly poisons, injures or kills a law enforcement animal while it is aiding or assisting a peace officer or public officer engaged in the execution of their duties or a person acting in aid of such an officer.

    (3) Every one who commits an offence under subsection (2) is guilty of

    (a) an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term of not more than five years; or

    (b) an offence punishable on summary conviction and liable to a fine of not more than ten thousand dollars or to imprisonment for a term of not more than eighteen months, or to both.

    (4) The court may, in addition to any other sentence that it may impose under subsection (3), order the accused to pay all reasonable costs associated with the loss of or injury to the law enforcement animal as a result of the commission of the offence if the costs are readily ascertainable."

Motion No. 7 of Mr. Laframboise (Argenteuil--Papineau--Mirabel) , seconded by Mr. Bergeron (Verchères--Les-Patriotes) , — That Bill C-15B, in Clause 8, be amended by adding after line 16 on page 6 the following:

    “182.7 (1) In this section, “service animal” means a dog or any other animal used by a person with a disability.

    (2) Every one commits an offence who

    (a) assaults, injures or causes the death of a service animal; or

    (b) assaults, injures, causes the death of or poisons, or in any way attempts to poison, a service animal while it is kenneled, penned, transported or otherwise held.

    (3) Every one who commits an offence under paragraph (2)(a) or (b) is guilty of

    (a) an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term of not more than five years; or

    (b) an offence punishable on summary conviction and liable to a fine not exceeding ten thousand dollars or emprisonment for a term of not more than eighteen months or both.

    (4) The court, in addition to any sentence that it may impose under subsection (3), must order the offender to pay all restitution costs, including training costs, resulting from the service animal's being killed or otherwise rendered unable to perform its duties.”

Motion No. 8 of Mr. Laframboise (Argenteuil--Papineau--Mirabel) , seconded by Mr. Bergeron (Verchères--Les-Patriotes) , — That Bill C-15B, in Clause 8, be amended by adding after line 16 on page 6 the following:

    “182.8 The court may order the production of any additional evidence or the issuance of a summons to any persons, including experts, whose testimony the court considers appropriate or necessary to confirm evidence relating to any section in this Part.”

Motion No. 9 of Mr. Hill (Prince George--Peace River) , seconded by Mr. Mark (Dauphin--Swan River) , — That Bill C-15B be amended by deleting Clause 9.

The debate continued on the motions in Group No. 1.

Private Members' Business

At 5:40 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 30(7), the House proceeded to the consideration of Private Members' Business.

Mrs. Wayne (Saint John) , seconded by Mr. Keddy (South Shore) , moved, — That, in the opinion of this House, the government should establish a fund to assist in the maintenance of local cenotaphs. (Private Members' Business M-383)

Debate arose thereon.

Pursuant to Standing Order 96(1), the Order was dropped from the Order Paper.

Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(1), a paper deposited with the Clerk of the House was laid upon the Table as follows:

— by Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance) — Report of the Governor of the Bank of Canada and Statement of Accounts for the year 2001, pursuant to the Bank of Canada Act, R.S. 1985, c. B-2, sbs. 30(3). — Sessional Paper No. 8560-371-65-02. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Finance)

Adjournment Proceedings

At 6:26 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 38(1), the question "That this House do now adjourn" was deemed to have been proposed.

After debate, the question was deemed to have been adopted.

Accordingly, at 6:35 p.m., the Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow at 10:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).