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HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA
37th PARLIAMENT, 1st SESSION

JOURNALS

No. 174

Tuesday, April 23, 2002

10:00 a.m.

Prayers

Daily Routine Of Business

Presenting Reports from Inter-parliamentary Delegations

Pursuant to Standing Order 34(1), Mrs. Parrish (Mississauga Centre) presented the Report of the Canadian NATO Parliamentary Association respecting its participation at the meeting of the Sub-Committee on Future Security and Defence Capabilities of the NATO Parliamentary Assembly, held in Slovenia and Slovakia from March 5 to 8, 2002. — Sessional Paper No. 8565-371-50-13.

Presenting Reports from Committees

Mr. Lastewka (St. Catharines) , from the Standing Committee on Industry, Science and Technology, presented the Eighth Report of the Committee (A Plan to Modernize Canada's Competition Regime). — Sessional Paper No. 8510-371-144.

Pursuant to Standing Order 109, the Committee requested that the government table a comprehensive response.

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings (Meetings Nos. 59, 64 and 65) was tabled.

Motions

By unanimous consent, it was ordered, — That the membership of the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs be modified as follows: Dale Johnston to replace Cheryl Gallant and John Reynolds to replace Randy White; and that Cheryl Gallant and Randy White be added to the list of associate members.

Presenting Petitions

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were presented as follows:

— by Mr. Pratt (Nepean--Carleton) , one concerning firefighters (No. 371-0653);

— by Mr. Benoit (Lakeland) , one concerning the criminal justice system (No. 371-0654).

Government Orders

The Order was read for the consideration of the Business of Supply.

Mr. Spencer (Regina--Lumsden--Lake Centre) , seconded by Mr. Fitzpatrick (Prince Albert) , moved, — That the government immediately introduce legislation to protect children from sexual predators including measures that raise the legal age of consent to at least sixteen, and measures that prohibit the creation or use of sexually explicit materials exploiting children or materials that appear to depict or describe children engaged in sexual activity.

Debate arose thereon.

Statements By Members

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

Oral Questions

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

Government Orders

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Spencer (Regina--Lumsden--Lake Centre) , seconded by Mr. Fitzpatrick (Prince Albert) , in relation to the Business of Supply.

The debate continued.

Mr. Kenney (Calgary Southeast) , seconded by Mr. Spencer (Regina--Lumsden--Lake Centre) , moved the following amendment, — That the motion be amended by deleting all the words after the word “That” and substituting the following:

“the government introduce legislation without delay to protect children from sexual predators including measures to close the loophole of artistic merit for child pornography and raise, in consultation with the provinces, the “legal age of consent” from fourteen to at least sixteen while maintaining the “close in age” exemption and retaining eighteen as the age of consent in trust and authority relationships.”.

Debate arose thereon.

Presenting Reports from Committees

By unanimous consent, Mr. Adams (Peterborough) , from the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs, presented the 53rd Report of the Committee, which was as follows:

In accordance with its mandate under Standing Order 92(1), the Committee has selected from among the items for which an order of precedence was established on or after Thursday, February 28, 2002, the following as votable items:

Bill C-400 — Mr. Mills (Red Deer)

Motion M-326 — Mr. Calder (Dufferin--Peel--Wellington--Grey)

Motion M-334 — Mr. Pratt (Nepean--Carleton)

Motion M-478 — Mr. Herron (Fundy--Royal)

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings (Meeting No. 59) was tabled.

Pursuant to Standing Order 92(2), the report was deemed adopted.

Government Orders

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Spencer (Regina--Lumsden--Lake Centre) , seconded by Mr. Fitzpatrick (Prince Albert) , in relation to the Business of Supply;

And of the amendment of Mr. Kenney (Calgary Southeast) , seconded by Mr. Spencer (Regina--Lumsden--Lake Centre) .

The debate continued.

At 5:15 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 81(16), the Speaker interrupted the proceedings.

The question was put on the amendment and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division No. 277 -- Vote n^o 277)
YEAS: 71, NAYS: 154

YEAS -- POUR
Bachand (Richmond--Arthabaska) Bailey Benoit Blaikie Borotsik Breitkreuz Brison Burton Casey Casson Cummins Day Desjarlais Doyle Duncan Elley Epp Fitzpatrick	Gallant Goldring Grey Guarnieri Harris Hearn Herron Hill (Macleod) Hill (Prince George--Peace River) Hilstrom Jaffer Johnston Keddy (South Shore) Kenney (Calgary Southeast) Lunn (Saanich--Gulf Islands) Lunney (Nanaimo--Alberni) MacKay (Pictou--Antigonish--Guysborough) Martin (Winnipeg Centre)	McDonough McNally McTeague Meredith Merrifield Mills (Red Deer) Moore Nystrom Pallister Penson Peric Proctor Rajotte Reid (Lanark--Carleton) Reynolds Ritz Schmidt Skelton	Solberg Sorenson Spencer Stinson Thompson (New Brunswick Southwest) Toews Ur Valeri Vellacott Venne Volpe Wappel Wasylycia-Leis Wayne White (Langley--Abbotsford) White (North Vancouver) Williams -- 71

NAYS -- CONTRE
Adams Alcock Allard Anderson (Victoria) Assad Assadourian Augustine Bachand (Saint-Jean) Bagnell Barnes Beaumier Bélanger Bellehumeur Bennett Bergeron Bertrand Bevilacqua Bigras Blondin-Andrew Bonin Boudria Bourgeois Bradshaw Brien Brown Bryden Bulte Byrne Calder Cannis Caplan Cardin Carignan Carroll Castonguay Catterall Cauchon Chrétien Coderre	Collenette Comartin Copps Crête Cuzner Davies Desrochers Dhaliwal Discepola Dromisky Drouin Dubé Duceppe Duplain Easter Eggleton Eyking Farrah Finlay Folco Fournier Fry Gagnon (Québec) Gallaway Gauthier Girard-Bujold Godfrey Godin Goodale Grose Guay Harb Harvey Hubbard Jackson Jennings Jordan Karetak-Lindell Karygiannis	Keyes Kilgour (Edmonton Southeast) Knutson Kraft Sloan Laframboise Lanctôt Lastewka Lebel LeBlanc Leung Loubier MacAulay Macklin Mahoney Malhi Maloney Manley Marceau Marcil Marleau Martin (LaSalle--Émard) Matthews McCallum McCormick McGuire McLellan Ménard Minna Mitchell Murphy Myers Nault O'Brien (Labrador) O'Brien (London--Fanshawe) O'Reilly Paquette Paradis Parrish	Patry Perron Phinney Picard (Drummond) Pillitteri Pratt Proulx Redman Reed (Halton) Regan Richardson Robillard Robinson Rocheleau Rock Roy Saada Sauvageau Scherrer Scott Sgro Shepherd Speller St-Hilaire St-Jacques St-Julien St. Denis Steckle Stewart Szabo Thibault (West Nova) Thibeault (Saint-Lambert) Tirabassi Tonks Torsney Vanclief Whelan Wood -- 154

PAIRED -- PAIRÉS
Asselin Bachand (Saint-Jean) Bellemare Bonwick Caccia	Cotler Dalphond-Guiral Dion Fontana Gagnon (Champlain)	Guimond Lalonde Neville Pettigrew	Plamondon Price Tremblay (Lac-Saint-Jean--Saguenay) Tremblay (Rimouski-Neigette-et-la Mitis)

Pursuant to Standing Order 81(16), the question was put on the main motion and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division No. 278 -- Vote n^o 278)
YEAS: 62, NAYS: 163

YEAS -- POUR
Bachand (Richmond--Arthabaska) Bailey Benoit Borotsik Breitkreuz Brison Burton Casey Casson Cummins Day Doyle Duncan Elley Epp Fitzpatrick	Gallant Goldring Grey Guarnieri Harris Hearn Herron Hill (Macleod) Hill (Prince George--Peace River) Hilstrom Jaffer Johnston Keddy (South Shore) Kenney (Calgary Southeast) Lunn (Saanich--Gulf Islands) Lunney (Nanaimo--Alberni)	MacKay (Pictou--Antigonish--Guysborough) McNally McTeague Meredith Merrifield Mills (Red Deer) Moore Pallister Penson Peric Rajotte Reid (Lanark--Carleton) Reynolds Ritz Schmidt	Skelton Solberg Sorenson Spencer Stinson Thompson (New Brunswick Southwest) Toews Vellacott Venne Volpe Wappel Wayne White (Langley--Abbotsford) White (North Vancouver) Williams -- 62

NAYS -- CONTRE
Adams Alcock Allard Anderson (Victoria) Assad Assadourian Augustine Bachand (Saint-Jean) Bagnell Barnes Beaumier Bélanger Bellehumeur Bennett Bergeron Bertrand Bevilacqua Bigras Blaikie Blondin-Andrew Bonin Boudria Bourgeois Bradshaw Brien Brown Bryden Bulte Byrne Calder Cannis Caplan Carignan Carroll Castonguay Catterall Cauchon Chrétien Coderre Collenette Comartin	Copps Crête Cuzner Davies Desjarlais Desrochers Dhaliwal Discepola Dromisky Drouin Dubé Duceppe Duplain Easter Eggleton Eyking Farrah Finlay Folco Fournier Fry Gagnon (Québec) Gallaway Gauthier Girard-Bujold Godfrey Godin Goodale Grose Guay Harb Harvey Hubbard Jackson Jennings Jordan Karetak-Lindell Keyes Kilgour (Edmonton Southeast) Knutson Kraft Sloan	Laframboise Lanctôt Lastewka Lebel LeBlanc Leung Loubier MacAulay Macklin Mahoney Malhi Maloney Manley Marceau Marcil Marleau Martin (Winnipeg Centre) Martin (LaSalle--Émard) Matthews McCallum McCormick McDonough McGuire McKay (Scarborough East) McLellan Ménard Minna Mitchell Murphy Myers Nault Nystrom O'Brien (Labrador) O'Brien (London--Fanshawe) O'Reilly Paquette Paradis Parrish Patry Perron Phinney	Picard (Drummond) Pillitteri Pratt Proctor Proulx Redman Reed (Halton) Regan Richardson Robillard Robinson Rocheleau Rock Roy Saada Sauvageau Scherrer Scott Sgro Shepherd Speller St-Hilaire St-Jacques St-Julien St. Denis Steckle Stewart Szabo Thibault (West Nova) Thibeault (Saint-Lambert) Tirabassi Tonks Torsney Ur Valeri Vanclief Wasylycia-Leis Whelan Wilfert Wood -- 163

PAIRED -- PAIRÉS
Asselin Bachand (Saint-Jean) Bellemare Bonwick Caccia	Cotler Dalphond-Guiral Dion Fontana Gagnon (Champlain)	Guimond Lalonde Neville Pettigrew	Plamondon Price Tremblay (Lac-Saint-Jean--Saguenay) Tremblay (Rimouski-Neigette-et-la Mitis)

Private Members' Business

Pursuant to Standing Order 45, the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the motion of Mr. Calder (Dufferin--Peel--Wellington--Grey) , seconded by Mr. Bryden (Ancaster--Dundas--Flamborough--Aldershot) , — That Bill S-22, An Act to provide for the recognition of the Canadian horse as the national horse of Canada, be now read a third time and do pass.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:

(Division No. 279 -- Vote n^o 279)
YEAS: 166, NAYS: 58

YEAS -- POUR
Adams Alcock Allard Anderson (Victoria) Assad Assadourian Augustine Bachand (Richmond--Arthabaska) Bagnell Barnes Beaumier Bélanger Bennett Bertrand Bevilacqua Blaikie Blondin-Andrew Bonin Borotsik Boudria Bradshaw Brison Brown Bryden Bulte Burton Byrne Calder Cannis Caplan Carignan Carroll Casey Castonguay Catterall Cauchon Chrétien Coderre Collenette Comartin Comuzzi Copps	Cummins Cuzner Davies Day Dhaliwal Discepola Doyle Dromisky Duncan Duplain Easter Eggleton Elley Eyking Farrah Finlay Folco Fry Gallaway Godfrey Godin Goldring Goodale Grey Grose Guarnieri Harb Harvey Hearn Herron Hill (Macleod) Hill (Prince George--Peace River) Hubbard Jackson Jaffer Jennings Jordan Karetak-Lindell Karygiannis Keddy (South Shore) Keyes Kilgour (Edmonton Southeast)	Knutson Kraft Sloan Lastewka LeBlanc Leung Lincoln Longfield Lunney (Nanaimo--Alberni) MacAulay MacKay (Pictou--Antigonish--Guysborough) Macklin Mahoney Malhi Maloney Manley Marcil Marleau Martin (Winnipeg Centre) Martin (LaSalle--Émard) Matthews McCallum McCormick McDonough McGuire McKay (Scarborough East) McLellan McNally Meredith Merrifield Mills (Red Deer) Minna Mitchell Murphy Myers Nault Nystrom O'Brien (Labrador) O'Brien (London--Fanshawe) O'Reilly Paradis Patry	Peric Phinney Pillitteri Pratt Proctor Redman Reed (Halton) Regan Reid (Lanark--Carleton) Reynolds Robillard Robinson Rock Saada Scherrer Scott Sgro Shepherd Speller St-Jacques St. Denis Steckle Stewart Szabo Thibault (West Nova) Thibeault (Saint-Lambert) Thompson (New Brunswick Southwest) Tirabassi Tonks Torsney Ur Valeri Vanclief Volpe Wappel Wasylycia-Leis Wayne Whelan White (Langley--Abbotsford) Wilfert Wood -- 166

NAYS -- CONTRE
Bachand (Saint-Jean) Bailey Bellehumeur Benoit Bergeron Bigras Bourgeois Breitkreuz Brien Cardin Casson Crête Desjarlais Desrochers Dubé	Duceppe Epp Fitzpatrick Fournier Gagnon (Québec) Gallant Gauthier Girard-Bujold Guay Harris Hilstrom Johnston Kenney (Calgary Southeast) Laframboise Lanctôt	Lebel Loubier Lunn (Saanich--Gulf Islands) Marceau Ménard Moore Pallister Paquette Parrish Penson Perron Picard (Drummond) Rajotte Ritz	Rocheleau Roy Sauvageau Schmidt Skelton Solberg Sorenson St-Hilaire St-Julien Stinson Toews Vellacott Venne White (North Vancouver) -- 58

PAIRED -- PAIRÉS
Asselin Bachand (Saint-Jean) Bellemare Bonwick Caccia	Cotler Dalphond-Guiral Dion Fontana Gagnon (Champlain)	Guimond Lalonde Neville Pettigrew	Plamondon Price Tremblay (Lac-Saint-Jean--Saguenay) Tremblay (Rimouski-Neigette-et-la Mitis)

Accordingly, the Bill was read the third time and passed.

Government Orders

Pursuant to Standing Order 45, the House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Cauchon (Minister of Justice) , seconded by Ms. Caplan (Minister of National Revenue) , — That the amendments numbered 1(b) and 2 made by the Senate to Bill C-15A, An Act to amend the Criminal Code and to amend other Acts, be now read a second time and concurred in; and

That a Message be sent to the Senate to acquaint Their Honours that this House disagrees with the amendment numbered 1(a) made by the Senate to Bill C-15A, An Act to amend the Criminal Code and to amend other Acts, because the amendment could exempt offenders from criminal liability even in cases where they knowingly transmit or make available child pornography.

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the amendment of Mr. Harris (Prince George--Bulkley Valley) , seconded by Mr. Stinson (Okanagan--Shuswap) , — That the motion be amended by deleting all the words after the word “That” and substituting the following:

“the amendment numbered 2 made by the Senate to Bill C-15A, An Act to amend the Criminal Code and to amend other Acts, be now read a second time and concurred in; and

That a Message be sent to the Senate to acquaint Their Honours that this House disagrees with the amendment numbered 1(b) because the amendment applies the artistic merit defence to the new offences introduced by this Act which could impact negatively in child pornography cases, and this House disagrees with the amendment numbered 1(a) made by the Senate to Bill C-15A, An Act to amend the Criminal Code and to amend other Acts, because the amendment could exempt offenders from criminal liability even in cases where they knowingly transmit or make available child pornography.”.

The question was put on the amendment and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division No. 280 -- Vote n^o 280)
YEAS: 56, NAYS: 170

YEAS -- POUR
Bachand (Richmond--Arthabaska) Bailey Benoit Borotsik Breitkreuz Brison Burton Casey Casson Cummins Day Doyle Duncan Elley	Epp Fitzpatrick Gallant Goldring Grey Harris Hearn Herron Hill (Macleod) Hill (Prince George--Peace River) Hilstrom Jaffer Johnston Keddy (South Shore)	Kenney (Calgary Southeast) Lunn (Saanich--Gulf Islands) Lunney (Nanaimo--Alberni) MacKay (Pictou--Antigonish--Guysborough) McNally Meredith Merrifield Mills (Red Deer) Moore Pallister Penson Rajotte Reid (Lanark--Carleton) Reynolds	Ritz Schmidt Skelton Solberg Sorenson Spencer Stinson Thompson (New Brunswick Southwest) Toews Vellacott Wayne White (Langley--Abbotsford) White (North Vancouver) Williams -- 56

NAYS -- CONTRE
Adams Alcock Allard Anderson (Victoria) Assad Assadourian Augustine Bachand (Saint-Jean) Bagnell Barnes Beaumier Bélanger Bellehumeur Bennett Bergeron Bertrand Bevilacqua Bigras Blaikie Blondin-Andrew Bonin Boudria Bourgeois Bradshaw Brien Brown Bryden Bulte Byrne Calder Cannis Caplan Cardin Carignan Carroll Castonguay Catterall Cauchon Chrétien Coderre Collenette Comartin Comuzzi	Copps Crête Cuzner Davies Desjarlais Desrochers Dhaliwal Discepola Dromisky Dubé Duceppe Duplain Easter Eggleton Eyking Farrah Finlay Folco Fournier Fry Gagnon (Québec) Gallaway Gauthier Girard-Bujold Godfrey Godin Goodale Grose Guarnieri Guay Harb Harvey Hubbard Jackson Jennings Jordan Karetak-Lindell Karygiannis Keyes Kilgour (Edmonton Southeast) Knutson Kraft Sloan Laframboise	Lanctôt Lastewka Lebel LeBlanc Leung Longfield Loubier MacAulay Macklin Mahoney Malhi Maloney Manley Marceau Marcil Marleau Martin (Winnipeg Centre) Martin (LaSalle--Émard) Matthews McCallum McCormick McDonough McGuire McLellan McTeague Ménard Minna Mitchell Murphy Myers Nault Nystrom O'Brien (Labrador) O'Brien (London--Fanshawe) O'Reilly Paquette Paradis Parrish Patry Peric Perron Phinney	Picard (Drummond) Pillitteri Pratt Proctor Proulx Redman Reed (Halton) Regan Richardson Robillard Robinson Rocheleau Rock Roy Saada Sauvageau Scherrer Scott Sgro Shepherd Speller St-Hilaire St-Jacques St-Julien St. Denis Steckle Stewart Szabo Thibault (West Nova) Thibeault (Saint-Lambert) Tirabassi Tonks Torsney Ur Valeri Vanclief Venne Volpe Wappel Wasylycia-Leis Whelan Wood -- 170

PAIRED -- PAIRÉS
Asselin Bachand (Saint-Jean) Bellemare Bonwick Caccia	Cotler Dalphond-Guiral Dion Fontana Gagnon (Champlain)	Guimond Lalonde Neville Pettigrew	Plamondon Price Tremblay (Lac-Saint-Jean--Saguenay) Tremblay (Rimouski-Neigette-et-la Mitis)

By unanimous consent, the question was put on the main motion and it was agreed to on the following division:

(Division No. 281 -- Vote n^o 281)
YEAS: 169, NAYS: 56

YEAS -- POUR
Adams Alcock Allard Anderson (Victoria) Assad Assadourian Augustine Bachand (Saint-Jean) Bagnell Barnes Beaumier Bélanger Bellehumeur Bennett Bergeron Bertrand Bevilacqua Bigras Blaikie Blondin-Andrew Bonin Boudria Bourgeois Bradshaw Brien Brown Bryden Bulte Byrne Calder Cannis Caplan Cardin Carignan Carroll Castonguay Catterall Cauchon Chrétien Coderre Collenette Comartin Comuzzi	Copps Crête Cuzner Davies Desjarlais Desrochers Dhaliwal Discepola Dromisky Dubé Duceppe Duplain Easter Eggleton Eyking Farrah Finlay Folco Fournier Fry Gagnon (Québec) Gallaway Girard-Bujold Godfrey Godin Goodale Grose Guarnieri Guay Harb Harvey Hubbard Jackson Jennings Jordan Karetak-Lindell Karygiannis Keyes Kilgour (Edmonton Southeast) Knutson Kraft Sloan Laframboise	Lanctôt Lastewka Lebel LeBlanc Leung Longfield Loubier MacAulay Macklin Mahoney Malhi Maloney Manley Marceau Marcil Marleau Martin (Winnipeg Centre) Martin (LaSalle--Émard) Matthews McCallum McCormick McDonough McGuire McLellan McTeague Ménard Minna Mitchell Murphy Myers Nault Nystrom O'Brien (Labrador) O'Brien (London--Fanshawe) O'Reilly Paquette Paradis Parrish Patry Peric Perron Phinney	Picard (Drummond) Pillitteri Pratt Proctor Proulx Redman Reed (Halton) Regan Richardson Robillard Robinson Rocheleau Rock Roy Saada Sauvageau Scherrer Scott Sgro Shepherd Speller St-Hilaire St-Jacques St-Julien St. Denis Steckle Stewart Szabo Thibault (West Nova) Thibeault (Saint-Lambert) Tirabassi Tonks Torsney Ur Valeri Vanclief Venne Volpe Wappel Wasylycia-Leis Whelan Wood -- 169

NAYS -- CONTRE
Bachand (Richmond--Arthabaska) Bailey Benoit Borotsik Breitkreuz Brison Burton Casey Casson Cummins Day Doyle Duncan Elley	Epp Fitzpatrick Gallant Goldring Grey Harris Hearn Herron Hill (Macleod) Hill (Prince George--Peace River) Hilstrom Jaffer Johnston Keddy (South Shore)	Kenney (Calgary Southeast) Lunn (Saanich--Gulf Islands) Lunney (Nanaimo--Alberni) MacKay (Pictou--Antigonish--Guysborough) McNally Meredith Merrifield Mills (Red Deer) Moore Pallister Penson Rajotte Reid (Lanark--Carleton) Reynolds	Ritz Schmidt Skelton Solberg Sorenson Spencer Stinson Thompson (New Brunswick Southwest) Toews Vellacott Wayne White (Langley--Abbotsford) White (North Vancouver) Williams -- 56

PAIRED -- PAIRÉS
Asselin Bachand (Saint-Jean) Bellemare Bonwick Caccia	Cotler Dalphond-Guiral Dion Fontana Gagnon (Champlain)	Guimond Lalonde Neville Pettigrew	Plamondon Price Tremblay (Lac-Saint-Jean--Saguenay) Tremblay (Rimouski-Neigette-et-la Mitis)

Privilege

Pursuant to Standing Order 45, the House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Goodale (Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) , seconded by Mr. Collenette (Minister of Transport) , — That the Member for Esquimalt—Juan de Fuca be suspended from the service of the House until such time as he appears at the Bar of the House to apologize, in a manner found to be satisfactory by the Speaker, for his actions in disregard of the authority of the Chair and in contempt of the House.

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the amendment of Mr. Reynolds (West Vancouver--Sunshine Coast) , seconded by Mrs. Skelton (Saskatoon--Rosetown--Biggar) , — That the motion be amended by deleting all the words after the word “That” and substituting the following:

“the actions of the Member for Esquimalt—Juan de Fuca are found to be in disregard of the authority of the Chair and a contempt of the House and in keeping with tradition, and since the member has made a proper apology, no further action is necessary.”.

The question was put on the amendment and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division No. 282 -- Vote n^o 282)
YEAS: 49, NAYS: 173

YEAS -- POUR
Benoit Bourgeois Breitkreuz Burton Cardin Casson Davies Day Desrochers Duncan Elley Epp Fitzpatrick	Gallant Goldring Grey Harris Hill (Macleod) Hilstrom Jaffer Johnston Lebel Lunn (Saanich--Gulf Islands) Lunney (Nanaimo--Alberni) Martin (Winnipeg Centre)	McNally Meredith Merrifield Mills (Red Deer) Moore Pallister Penson Rajotte Reid (Lanark--Carleton) Reynolds Ritz Robinson	Schmidt Skelton Solberg Sorenson Spencer Stinson Toews Vellacott Venne White (Langley--Abbotsford) White (North Vancouver) Williams -- 49

NAYS -- CONTRE
Adams Alcock Allard Anderson (Victoria) Assadourian Augustine Bachand (Richmond--Arthabaska) Bachand (Saint-Jean) Bagnell Bailey Barnes Beaumier Bélanger Bellehumeur Bennett Bergeron Bertrand Bevilacqua Bigras Blaikie Blondin-Andrew Bonin Borotsik Boudria Bradshaw Brien Brison Brown Bryden Bulte Byrne Calder Cannis Caplan Carignan Carroll Castonguay Catterall Cauchon Chrétien Collenette Comartin Comuzzi Copps	Crête Cuzner Desjarlais Dhaliwal Discepola Doyle Dromisky Dubé Duceppe Duplain Easter Eggleton Eyking Farrah Finlay Folco Fournier Fry Gagnon (Québec) Gallaway Girard-Bujold Godfrey Godin Goodale Grose Guarnieri Guay Harb Harvey Hearn Herron Hill (Prince George--Peace River) Hubbard Jackson Jennings Jordan Karetak-Lindell Keddy (South Shore) Kenney (Calgary Southeast) Keyes Kilgour (Edmonton Southeast) Knutson Kraft Sloan	Laframboise Lanctôt Lastewka LeBlanc Leung Lincoln Longfield Loubier MacAulay MacKay (Pictou--Antigonish--Guysborough) Macklin Mahoney Malhi Maloney Manley Marceau Marcil Marleau Martin (LaSalle--Émard) Matthews McCallum McCormick McDonough McGuire McKay (Scarborough East) McLellan Ménard Minna Mitchell Murphy Myers Nault Nystrom O'Brien (Labrador) O'Brien (London--Fanshawe) O'Reilly Paquette Paradis Parrish Patry Peric Perron Phinney	Picard (Drummond) Pillitteri Pratt Proctor Proulx Redman Reed (Halton) Regan Richardson Robillard Rocheleau Rock Roy Saada Sauvageau Scherrer Scott Sgro Shepherd Speller St-Hilaire St-Jacques St-Julien St. Denis Steckle Stewart Szabo Thibault (West Nova) Thibeault (Saint-Lambert) Thompson (New Brunswick Southwest) Tirabassi Tonks Torsney Ur Valeri Vanclief Volpe Wappel Wasylycia-Leis Wayne Whelan Wilfert Wood -- 173

PAIRED -- PAIRÉS
Asselin Bachand (Saint-Jean) Bellemare Bonwick Caccia	Cotler Dalphond-Guiral Dion Fontana Gagnon (Champlain)	Guimond Lalonde Neville Pettigrew	Plamondon Price Tremblay (Lac-Saint-Jean--Saguenay) Tremblay (Rimouski-Neigette-et-la Mitis)

By unanimous consent, the question was put on the main motion and it was agreed to on division.

Government Orders

Pursuant to Standing Order 45, the House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Cauchon (Minister of Justice) , seconded by Mr. Byrne (Minister of State (Atlantic Canada Opportunities Agency)) , — That Bill C-15B, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (cruelty to animals and firearms) and the Firearms Act, be now read a third time and do pass;

And of the amendment of Mr. Toews (Provencher) , seconded by Mr. Goldring (Edmonton Centre-East) , — That the motion be amended by deleting all the words after the word “That” and substituting the following:

“Bill C-15B, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (cruelty to animals and firearms) and the Firearms Act, be not now read a third time, but be referred back to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights for the purpose of reconsidering Clause 8, taking into consideration the importance of ensuring that the legitimate use of animals by farmers, sportsmen and medical researchers should be protected under this Bill.”.

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the subamendment of Mr. Hilstrom (Selkirk--Interlake) , seconded by Mr. Solberg (Medicine Hat) , — That the amendment be amended by adding the following:

“and that the Committee report back to the House no later than June 21, 2002.”.

The question was put on the subamendment and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division No. 283 -- Vote n^o 283)
YEAS: 83, NAYS: 139

YEAS -- POUR
Bachand (Richmond--Arthabaska) Bachand (Saint-Jean) Bailey Bellehumeur Benoit Bergeron Bigras Borotsik Bourgeois Breitkreuz Brien Brison Burton Cardin Casson Crête Day Desrochers Doyle Dubé Duceppe	Duncan Elley Epp Fitzpatrick Fournier Gagnon (Québec) Gallant Girard-Bujold Goldring Grey Guay Harris Hearn Herron Hill (Macleod) Hill (Prince George--Peace River) Hilstrom Jaffer Johnston Keddy (South Shore) Kenney (Calgary Southeast)	Laframboise Lanctôt Lebel Loubier Lunn (Saanich--Gulf Islands) Lunney (Nanaimo--Alberni) MacKay (Pictou--Antigonish--Guysborough) Marceau McNally Ménard Meredith Merrifield Mills (Red Deer) Moore Pallister Paquette Penson Perron Picard (Drummond) Rajotte Reid (Lanark--Carleton)	Reynolds Ritz Rocheleau Roy Sauvageau Schmidt Skelton Solberg Sorenson Spencer St-Hilaire Stinson Thompson (New Brunswick Southwest) Toews Vellacott Venne Wayne White (Langley--Abbotsford) White (North Vancouver) Williams -- 83

NAYS -- CONTRE
Adams Alcock Allard Anderson (Victoria) Assadourian Augustine Bagnell Barnes Beaumier Bélanger Bennett Bertrand Bevilacqua Blaikie Blondin-Andrew Bonin Boudria Bradshaw Brown Bryden Bulte Byrne Calder Cannis Caplan Carignan Carroll Castonguay Catterall Cauchon Chrétien Collenette Comartin Comuzzi Copps	Cuzner Davies Desjarlais Dhaliwal Discepola Dromisky Duplain Easter Eggleton Eyking Farrah Finlay Folco Fry Gallaway Godfrey Godin Goodale Grose Guarnieri Harb Harvey Hubbard Jackson Jennings Jordan Karetak-Lindell Keyes Kilgour (Edmonton Southeast) Knutson Kraft Sloan Lastewka LeBlanc Leung Lincoln	Longfield MacAulay Macklin Mahoney Malhi Maloney Manley Marcil Marleau Martin (Winnipeg Centre) Martin (LaSalle--Émard) Matthews McCallum McCormick McDonough McGuire McKay (Scarborough East) McLellan Minna Mitchell Murphy Myers Nault Nystrom O'Brien (Labrador) O'Brien (London--Fanshawe) O'Reilly Paradis Parrish Patry Peric Phinney Pillitteri Pratt Proctor	Proulx Redman Reed (Halton) Regan Richardson Robillard Robinson Rock Saada Scherrer Scott Sgro Shepherd Speller St-Jacques St-Julien St. Denis Steckle Stewart Szabo Thibault (West Nova) Thibeault (Saint-Lambert) Tirabassi Tonks Torsney Ur Valeri Vanclief Volpe Wappel Wasylycia-Leis Whelan Wilfert Wood -- 139

PAIRED -- PAIRÉS
Asselin Bachand (Saint-Jean) Bellemare Bonwick Caccia	Cotler Dalphond-Guiral Dion Fontana Gagnon (Champlain)	Guimond Lalonde Neville Pettigrew	Plamondon Price Tremblay (Lac-Saint-Jean--Saguenay) Tremblay (Rimouski-Neigette-et-la Mitis)

Private Members' Business

At 6:34 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 30(7), the House proceeded to the consideration of Private Members' Business.

Mr. Martin (Winnipeg Centre) , seconded by Ms. Wasylycia-Leis (Winnipeg North Centre) , moved, — That, in the opinion of this House, the federal government should take all public policy and legislative steps necessary to encourage the adoption of a shorter work week and reduced work time in the public sector, federally regulated industries, and the private sector as a whole. (Private Members' Business M-34)

Debate arose thereon.

Pursuant to Standing Order 96(1), the Order was dropped from the Order Paper.

Adjournment

At 7:27 p.m., the Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow at 2:00 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).