HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA
37^TH PARLIAMENT, 1^st SESSION

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JOURNALS

No. 063

Wednesday, May 16, 2001

2:00 p.m.

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PRAYERS

NATIONAL ANTHEM

STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

ORAL QUESTIONS

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

MOTIONS

By unanimous consent, it was ordered, -- That the Order for the second reading and reference to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights of Bill C-300, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (wearing of war decorations), standing in the order of precedence on the Order Paper in the name of Mr. Dromisky (Thunder Bay -- Atikokan), be discharged and the Bill withdrawn.

DAILY ROUTINE OF BUSINESS

Tabling of Documents

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Ms. Bulte (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Canadian Heritage) laid upon the Table, -- Document entitled ``The Government's Response to the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage's Report: The Challenge of Change: A Consideration of the Canadian Book Industry''. -- Sessional Paper No. 8525-371-17.

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Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Lee (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to the following petitions:

-- No. 371-0051 concerning the late Pierre Elliott Trudeau. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-371-37-01;

-- No. 371-0068 concerning China. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-371-36-03;

-- No. 371-0130 concerning the Canada Post Corporation. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-371-23-07;

-- No. 371-0164 concerning the situation in the Middle East. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-371-22-04;

-- No. 371-0182 concerning the agricultural industry. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-371-17-08.

Presenting Reports from Committees

Mr. Lee (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), from the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs, presented the 17th Report of the Committee (Main Estimates 2001-2002 -- Vote 5 under PARLIAMENT). -- Sessional Paper No. 8510-371-35.

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings (Meeting No. 20) was tabled.

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Mr. Lee (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), from the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs, presented the 18th Report of the Committee, which was as follows:

The Committee recommends, pursuant to Standing Orders 104 and 114, that the following Members be added to the list of Associate Members of Standing Committees:

Agriculture and Agri-Food

Wayne Easter

Canadian Heritage

Diane St-Jacques

Foreign Affairs and International Trade

Wayne Easter

Diane St-Jacques

Health

Diane St-Jacques

Justice and Human Rights

Diane St-Jacques

Public Accounts

Roy Cullen

Transport and Government Operations

Wayne Easter

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings was tabled.

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Mr. Lee (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), from the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs, presented the 19th Report of the Committee (radio and television broadcasting of the proceedings of House committees). -- Sessional Paper No. 8510-371-36.

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings (Meetings Nos. 7, 9, 13, 14 and 19) was tabled.

Presenting Petitions

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were presented as follows:

-- by Ms. Wasylycia-Leis (Winnipeg North Centre), four concerning alcoholic beverages (Nos. 371-0235 to 371-0238);

-- by Mrs. Ur (Lambton -- Kent -- Middlesex), one concerning gasoline additives (No. 371-0239);

-- by Mr. Malhi (Bramalea -- Gore -- Malton -- Springdale), one concerning the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation (No. 371- 0240);

-- by Mr. Fitzpatrick (Prince Albert), one concerning abortion (No. 371-0241) and one concerning sex offenders (No. 371-0242);

-- by Mrs. Hinton (Kamloops, Thompson and Highland Valleys), one concerning crimes of violence (No. 371-0243);

-- by Mr. Proctor (Palliser), one concerning the Employment Insurance program (No. 371-0244);

-- by Mr. Anders (Calgary West), two concerning the Food and Drugs Act (Nos. 371-0245 and 371-0246).

Questions on Order Paper

Mr. Lee (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) presented the answer to question Q-13 on the Order Paper.

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Pursuant to Standing Order 39(7), Mr. Lee (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) presented the returns to the following questions made into Order for Returns:

Q-12 -- Mr. Robinson (Burnaby -- Douglas) -- For each of the last five years, 1996-2000, (a) how many foreign diplomats were alleged to have violated Canadian, provincial, and local laws, (b) in each instance, what law was alleged violated, (c) what was the nationality of the alleged offender, and (d) what was the response of the Government of Canada? -- Sessional Paper No. 8555-371-12;

Q-37 -- Mr. Williams (St. Albert) -- With regard to performance pay for public servants in the Executive (EX) category and the Deputy Minister (DM) category in fiscal years 1999-2000 and 2000-2001 for each department, agency or Crown corporation: (a) how many employees received performance pay, broken down by EX level (e.g. EX-1, EX-2, etc.); (b) how many employees are there in each EX level; (c) how many employees received performance pay, broken down by DM level (e.g. DM-1, DM-2, etc.); (d) how many employees are there at each DM level; and (e) what was the total amount paid out in performance pay? -- Sessional Paper No. 8555-371-37.

MESSAGES FROM THE SENATE

Messages were received from the Senate informing this House that the Senate has passed the following Bills, to which the concurrence of the House is desired:

S-15, An Act to enable and assist the Canadian tobacco industry in attaining its objective of preventing the use of tobacco products by young persons in Canada; and

S-24, An Act to implement an agreement between the Mohawks of Kanesatake and Her Majesty in right of Canada respecting governance of certain lands by the Mohawks of Kanesatake and to amend an Act in consequence.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The Order was read for the consideration at report stage of Bill C-7, An Act in respect of criminal justice for young persons and to amend and repeal other Acts, as reported by the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights with amendments.

Pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(5), the Speaker selected and grouped for debate the following motions:

Group No. 1 -- Motions Nos. 1 and 3.

Group No. 2 -- Motion No. 2.

Group No. 1

By unanimous consent, Mr. Bellehumeur (Berthier -- Montcalm), seconded by Mr. Bergeron (Verchères -- Les-Patriotes), moved Motion No. 1, -- That Bill C-7 be amended by adding after line 43 on page 7 the following new clause:

``3.1 The lieutenant governor in council of a province may, by order, fix an age greater than ten years but not greater than eighteen years for the purposes of exemption from the application of this Act and the provisions of any other Acts amended by this Act, in which case the Young Offenders Act, as it reads at the time the order is made, continues to apply in that province.''

By unanimous consent, Mr. Bellehumeur (Berthier -- Montcalm), seconded by Mr. Bergeron (Verchères -- Les-Patriotes), moved Motion No. 3, -- That Bill C-7, in Clause 199, be amended by replacing line 18 on page 169 with the following:

``199. This Act replaces the Young Offenders Act, except in a province that makes an order under section 3.1, in which case the Young Offenders Act remains in force in that province.''

Debate arose on the motions in Group No. 1.

MOTIONS

By unanimous consent, Mr. Lee (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), seconded by Mr. Maloney (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada), moved, -- That the 18th Report of the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs, presented earlier today, be concurred in.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to.

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By unanimous consent, Mr. Lee (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), seconded by Mr. Maloney (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada), moved, -- That the 19th Report of the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs, presented earlier today, be concurred in.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to.

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By unanimous consent, Mr. Lee (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), seconded by Mr. Maloney (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada), moved, -- That, notwithstanding any Standing Order or usual practices of this House, Bill C-222, An Act to amend the Income Tax Act (deduction of expenses incurred by a mechanic for tools required in employment), standing on the Order Paper in the name of Mr. Guimond (Beauport -- Montmorency -- Orléans), and Motion M-241, in the name of Mr. Bergeron (Verchères -- Les-Patriotes), exchange positions in the order of precedence for Private Members' Business.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The House resumed consideration at report stage of Bill C-7, An Act in respect of criminal justice for young persons and to amend and repeal other Acts, as reported by the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights with amendments;

And of the motions in Group No. 1 (Motions Nos. 1 and 3).

The debate continued on the motions in Group No. 1.

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At 5:30 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 45, the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the motion of Ms. Copps (Minister of Canadian Heritage), seconded by Ms. Caplan (Minister of Citizenship and Immigration), -- That Bill C-10, An Act respecting the national marine conservation areas of Canada, be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:

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(Division--Vote N^o 99)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Allard -- Assad -- Bagnell -- Baker -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Binet -- Blaikie -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Boudria -- Brison -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Caccia -- Calder -- Cannis -- Caplan -- Carignan -- Carroll -- Casey -- Castonguay -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chrétien -- Coderre -- Copps -- Cotler -- Cullen -- Cuzner -- Desjarlais -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Doyle -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Duhamel -- Duplain -- Easter -- Eyking -- Farrah -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gallaway -- Godfrey -- Godin -- Goodale -- Graham -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Harvard -- Harvey -- Hearn -- Herron -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Keddy --  (South Shore) -- Keyes -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Kraft Sloan -- Laliberte -- Lastewka -- Lavigne -- LeBlanc -- Lee -- Leung -- Lill -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- MacAulay -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Macklin -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marleau -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- Matthews -- McCallum -- McCormick -- McDonough -- McGuire -- McLellan -- McTeague -- Mitchell -- Myers -- Nault -- Neville -- Normand -- O'Brien --  (Labrador) -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Owen -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Peric -- Pickard --  (Chatham -- Kent Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Price -- Proctor -- Proulx -- Redman -- Richardson -- Robillard -- Saada -- Savoy -- Scherrer -- Scott -- Shepherd -- Speller -- St. Denis -- St-Jacques -- Steckle -- Stewart -- Stoffer -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault --  (Saint-Lambert) -- Thompson --  (New Brunswick Southwest) -- Tirabassi -- Tonks -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Volpe -- Wappel -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Wayne -- Whelan -- Wilfert -- Wood -- 153

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Anders -- Anderson --  (Cypress Hills -- Grasslands) -- Asselin -- Bailey -- Bellehumeur -- Benoit -- Bergeron -- Breitkreuz -- Burton -- Cadman -- Cardin -- Casson -- Chatters -- Crête -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Day -- Dubé -- Duceppe -- Elley -- Epp -- Fitzpatrick -- Gagnon --  (Québec) -- Gallant -- Gauthier -- Girard-Bujold -- Grewal -- Guay -- Guimond -- Harris -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hinton -- Jaffer -- Lanctôt -- Loubier -- Lunn --  (Saanich -- Gulf Islands) -- Manning -- Mark -- Mayfield -- McNally -- Ménard -- Pallister -- Pankiw -- Perron -- Peschisolido -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Rajotte -- Reid --  (Lanark -- Carleton) -- Reynolds -- Ritz -- Rocheleau -- Roy -- Sauvageau -- Schmidt -- Skelton -- Solberg -- Spencer -- St-Hilaire -- Strahl -- Thompson --  (Wild Rose) -- Toews -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski-Neigette-et-la Mitis) -- Venne -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- Williams -- Yelich -- 67

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Anderson --  (Victoria) -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Bigras -- Bourgeois -- Brown -- Comuzzi -- Desrochers -- Eggleton -- Fournier -- Gagnon --  (Champlain) -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Knutson -- Laframboise -- Lalonde -- Lebel -- Marceau -- Marcil -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- Minna -- Paquette -- Pettigrew -- Sgro -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean -- Saguenay) -- Vanclief

Accordingly, the Bill was read the second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage.

PRIVATE MEMBERS' BUSINESS

At 6:00 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 30(7), the House proceeded to the consideration of Private Members' Business.

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Strahl (Fraser Valley), seconded by Mr. Hill (Macleod), -- That Bill C-217, An Act to provide for the taking of samples of blood for the benefit of persons administering and enforcing the law and good Samaritans and to amend the Criminal Code, be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights.

The debate continued.

Pursuant to Standing Order 93, the Order was dropped to the bottom of the order of precedence on the Order Paper.

RETURNS AND REPORTS DEPOSITED WITH THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(1), a paper deposited with the Clerk of the House was laid upon the Table as follows:

-- by the Speaker -- Report of the Chief Electoral Officer for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2001, pursuant to the Privacy Act, R. S. 1985, c. P-21, sbs. 72(2). -- Sessional Paper No. 8561-371-645-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights)

ADJOURNMENT PROCEEDINGS

At 7:00 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 38(1), the question ``That this House do now adjourn'' was deemed to have been proposed.

After debate, the question was deemed to have been adopted.

At 7:10 p.m., the Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow at 10:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).