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HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA
37th PARLIAMENT, 2nd SESSION

JOURNALS

No. 121

Wednesday, September 17, 2003

2:00 p.m.

Prayers

National Anthem

Statements By Members

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

Oral Questions

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

Daily Routine Of Business

Tabling of Documents

The Speaker laid upon the Table, — Report of the Privacy Commissioner for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2003, pursuant to the Privacy Act, R.S. 1985, c. P-21, sbs. 40(1). — Sessional Paper No. 8560-372-626-02. (Pursuant to Standing Order 108(3)(f), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Government Operations and Estimates)

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Regan (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, — Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to the following petitions:

— Nos. 372-1725 to 372-1736 concerning cruelty to animals. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-372-28-4;

— No. 372-1756 concerning the Canadian Coast Guard. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-372-32-13;

— Nos. 372-1762 and 372-1808 concerning national parks. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-372-58-04;

— Nos. 372-1788 and 372-1789 concerning the agricultural industry. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-372-84-02;

— Nos. 372-1865 to 372-1867 concerning the Divorce Act. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-372-27-08.

Introduction of Private Members' Bills

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mrs. Chamberlain (Guelph—Wellington) , seconded by Mr. Peric (Cambridge) , Bill C-446, An Act to amend the Controlled Drugs and Substances Act, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

First Reading of Senate Public Bills

Pursuant to Standing Order 69(2), on motion of Mr. Alcock (Winnipeg South) , seconded by Mr. Karygiannis (Scarborough—Agincourt) , Bill S-8, An Act to amend the Broadcasting Act, was read the first time and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Presenting Petitions

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were presented as follows:

— by Mr. Benoit (Lakeland) , three concerning the criminal justice system (Nos. 372-1921 to 372-1923);

— by Mr. Bertrand (Pontiac—Gatineau—Labelle) , one concerning marriage (No. 372-1924);

— by Mr. Ritz (Battlefords—Lloydminster) , one concerning marriage (No. 372-1925);

— by Mrs. Ur (Lambton—Kent—Middlesex) , one concerning gasoline additives (No. 372-1926) and one concerning pornography (No. 372-1927);

— by Mr. Sorenson (Crowfoot) , two concerning marriage (Nos. 372-1928 and 372-1929) and one concerning pornography (No. 372-1930);

— by Ms. Wasylycia-Leis (Winnipeg North Centre) , two concerning health care services (Nos. 372-1931 and 372-1932);

— by Mr. Elley (Nanaimo—Cowichan) , one concerning marriage (No. 372-1933);

— by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton—Melville) , one concerning stem cell research (No. 372-1934), one concerning the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms (No. 372-1935) and two concerning marriage (Nos. 372-1936 and 372-1937);

— by Mrs. Chamberlain (Guelph—Wellington) , two concerning illicit drug use (Nos. 372-1938 and 372-1939), one concerning a National Day of Prayer (No. 372-1940) and one concerning marriage (No. 372-1941);

— by Mr. Cadman (Surrey North) , one concerning the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms (No. 372-1942);

— by Mrs. Hinton (Kamloops, Thompson and Highland Valleys) , one concerning the Food and Drugs Act (No. 372-1943);

— by Mr. Johnston (Wetaskiwin) , one concerning pornography (No. 372-1944), one concerning marriage (No. 372-1945), one concerning abortion (No. 372-1946) and one concerning the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms (No. 372-1947);

— by Mr. Hill (Prince George—Peace River) , one concerning the Divorce Act (No. 372-1948);

— by Miss Grey (Edmonton North) , one concerning marriage (No. 372-1949) and one concerning the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms (No. 372-1950);

— by Mrs. Yelich (Blackstrap) , one concerning marriage (No. 372-1951);

— by Mr. Proctor (Palliser) , two concerning health care services (Nos. 372-1952 and 372-1953);

— by Mr. Regan (Halifax West) , one concerning the Canada Post Corporation (No. 372-1954).

Questions on Order Paper

Pursuant to Standing Order 39(7), Mr. Regan (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) presented the returns to the following questions made into Orders for Return:

Q-233 — Mr. Hill (Prince George—Peace River) — For the fiscal years 1993-1994, 1994-1995, 1995-1996, 1996-1997, 1997-1998, 1998-1999, 1999-2000 and 2000-2001, from all departments and agencies of the government, including crown corporations and quasi- or non-governmental agencies funded by the government, and not including research and student-related grants and loans, what is the list of grants, loans, contributions and contracts awarded in the constituency of Prince George-Peace River, including the name and address of the recipient, whether or not it was competitively awarded, the date, the amount and the type of funding, and if repayable, whether or not it has been repaid? — Sessional Paper No. 8555-372-233.

Q-238 — Mr. St-Julien (Abitibi—Baie-James—Nunavik) — With respect to the Communication Canada Sponsorship Program administered by Public Works and Government Services, what groups, individuals or organizations received funds under the program in fiscal years 2000-2001, 2001-2002 and 2002-2003 to date and, for each event sponsored, what are the names and amounts of the sponsorships, their location — including the name of the federal riding and the province or territory where the event took place — in addition to the date of confirmation of the sponsorship and the event? — Sessional Paper No. 8555-372-238.

Q-239 — Mr. St-Julien (Abitibi—Baie-James—Nunavik) — With respect to all government departments and agencies, including Crown corporations and quasi- and non-governmental agencies subsidized by the government and for fiscal years 1997-1998, 1998-1999, 1999-2000, 2000-2001 and 2001-2002, what financial assistance, contributions and subsidies were accorded to the federal ridings of Abitibi—Baie-James—Nunavik, Témiscamingue and Roberval and under what name, to what location and in what amount? — Sessional Paper No. 8555-372-239.

Notices of Motions for the Production of Papers

It was ordered, — That an Order of the House do issue for copies of all documents and correspondence pertaining to the decision made in 1995 by Revenue Canada to change the way in which it accounts for Goods and Services Tax input tax credit fraud. (Notice of Motion for the Production of Papers P-41 — Mr. Jaffer (Edmonton—Strathcona) )

Mr. Regan (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) presented the Return to this Order. — Sessional Paper No. 8550-372-41.

The Notice of Motion for the Production of Papers P-33 was called pursuant to Standing Order 97(1) and was transferred by the Clerk to “Notices of Motions (Papers)”.

Government Orders

The Order was read for the second reading and reference to the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs of Bill C-49, An Act respecting the effective date of the representation order of 2003.

Pursuant to Standing Order 73(1), Mr. Boudria (Minister of State and Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) , seconded by Mr. Nault (Minister of Indian Affairs and Northern Development) , moved, — That the Bill be referred forthwith to the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs.

Debate arose thereon.

Deferred Recorded Divisions

Government Orders

At 5:30 p.m., pursuant to Order made Tuesday, September 16, 2003, the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded divisions at report stage of Bill C-34, An Act to amend the Parliament of Canada Act (Ethics Commissioner and Senate Ethics Officer) and other Acts in consequence, as reported by the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs with an amendment.

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 1 of Mr. Comartin (Windsor—St. Clair) , seconded by Mr. Godin (Acadie—Bathurst) , — That Bill C-34 be amended by deleting Clause 38.

By unanimous consent, Motion No. 1 was amended to read as follows, — That Bill C-34 be amended by deleting Clauses 7 and 38.

The question was put on Motion No. 1, as amended, and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division No. 211 -- Vote n^o 211)
YEAS: 75, NAYS: 179

YEAS -- POUR
Abbott Ablonczy Anders Anderson (Cypress Hills—Grasslands) Bailey Benoit Blaikie Breitkreuz Burton Cadman Casson Chatters Comartin Cummins Davies Day Desjarlais Duncan Elley	Epp Fitzpatrick Forseth Gallant Godin Goldring Gouk Grewal Grey Hanger Harper Harris Hill (Prince George--Peace River) Hill (Macleod) Hinton Jaffer Johnston Kenney (Calgary Southeast) Lill	Lunn (Saanich—Gulf Islands) Lunney (Nanaimo—Alberni) Martin (Esquimalt--Juan de Fuca) Martin (Winnipeg Centre) Masse Mayfield McDonough McNally Meredith Merrifield Mills (Red Deer) Nystrom Obhrai Pallister Penson Proctor Rajotte Reid (Lanark—Carleton) Reynolds	Ritz Robinson Schmidt Skelton Solberg Sorenson Spencer Stinson Stoffer Strahl Thompson (Wild Rose) Toews Vellacott Wasylycia-Leis White (North Vancouver) White (Langley--Abbotsford) Williams Yelich -- 75

NAYS -- CONTRE
Adams Alcock Allard Anderson (Victoria) Assadourian Asselin Augustine Bachand (Saint-Jean) Bachand (Richmond--Arthabaska) Bagnell Barnes (London West) Barnes (Gander—Grand Falls) Barrette Bélair Bélanger Bellemare Bennett Bergeron Bertrand Bigras Binet Blondin-Andrew Bonin Bonwick Borotsik Boudria Bourgeois Bradshaw Brison Brown Bryden Bulte Byrne Caccia Calder Cannis Caplan Cardin Carignan Carroll Casey Catterall Cauchon Chamberlain Charbonneau	Clark Coderre Collenette Crête Cullen Cuzner Dalphond-Guiral DeVillers Dion Doyle Dromisky Drouin Duceppe Easter Efford Eggleton Eyking Finlay Folco Fontana Frulla Fry Gagnon (Québec) Gagnon (Champlain) Gagnon (Lac-Saint-Jean—Saguenay) Gauthier Girard-Bujold Godfrey Graham Grose Guarnieri Guay Guimond Harvey Herron Hilstrom Hubbard Ianno Jackson Jennings Jobin Jordan Karetak-Lindell Karygiannis Keddy (South Shore)	Keyes Kilgour (Edmonton Southeast) Knutson Kraft Sloan Laframboise Lanctôt Lastewka Lebel LeBlanc Lee Lincoln Longfield Loubier MacKay (Pictou—Antigonish—Guysborough) Macklin Mahoney Malhi Maloney Marceau Mark Marleau Martin (LaSalle--Émard) McCallum McCormick McGuire McKay (Scarborough East) McLellan McTeague Ménard Minna Mitchell Murphy Nault Neville Normand O'Brien (London--Fanshawe) O'Reilly Pacetti Pagtakhan Paquette Paradis Parrish Patry Peric Peschisolido	Peterson Phinney Picard (Drummond) Pickard (Chatham--Kent Essex) Pillitteri Plamondon Price Proulx Redman Reed (Halton) Regan Robillard Rocheleau Rock Roy Saada Sauvageau Savoy Schellenberger Scherrer Scott Serré Sgro Shepherd Simard Speller St-Jacques St-Julien St. Denis Steckle Stewart Telegdi Thibault (West Nova) Thibeault (Saint-Lambert) Thompson (New Brunswick Southwest) Tonks Tremblay Ur Valeri Vanclief Volpe Wappel Wayne Whelan -- 179

PAIRED -- PAIRÉS
Copps Desrochers Dhaliwal	Fournier Gaudet Goodale	Lalonde Owen	Pettigrew St-Hilaire

Pursuant to Standing Order 76(9), Mr. Boudria (Minister of State and Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) , seconded by Mr. Collenette (Minister of Transport) , moved, — That the Bill, as amended, be concurred in at report stage and read a second time.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:

(Division No. 212 -- Vote n^o 212)
YEAS: 194, NAYS: 62

YEAS -- POUR
Adams Alcock Allard Anderson (Victoria) Assadourian Asselin Augustine Bachand (Saint-Jean) Bachand (Richmond--Arthabaska) Bagnell Barnes (London West) Barnes (Gander—Grand Falls) Barrette Bélair Bélanger Bellemare Bennett Bergeron Bertrand Bigras Binet Blaikie Blondin-Andrew Bonin Bonwick Borotsik Boudria Bourgeois Bradshaw Brison Brown Bryden Bulte Byrne Caccia Calder Cannis Caplan Cardin Carignan Carroll Casey Catterall Cauchon Chamberlain Charbonneau Clark Coderre Collenette	Comartin Crête Cullen Cuzner Dalphond-Guiral Davies Desjarlais DeVillers Dion Doyle Dromisky Drouin Duceppe Easter Efford Eggleton Eyking Finlay Folco Fontana Frulla Fry Gagnon (Québec) Gagnon (Champlain) Gagnon (Lac-Saint-Jean—Saguenay) Gauthier Girard-Bujold Godfrey Godin Graham Grose Guarnieri Guay Guimond Harvard Harvey Herron Hubbard Ianno Jackson Jennings Jobin Jordan Karetak-Lindell Karygiannis Keddy (South Shore) Keyes Kilgour (Edmonton Southeast) Knutson	Kraft Sloan Laframboise Lanctôt Lastewka Lebel LeBlanc Lee Lill Lincoln Longfield Loubier MacKay (Pictou—Antigonish—Guysborough) Macklin Mahoney Malhi Maloney Marceau Mark Marleau Martin (LaSalle--Émard) Martin (Winnipeg Centre) Masse McCallum McCormick McDonough McGuire McKay (Scarborough East) McLellan McTeague Ménard Minna Mitchell Murphy Nault Neville Normand Nystrom O'Brien (London--Fanshawe) O'Reilly Pacetti Pagtakhan Paquette Paradis Parrish Patry Peric Peschisolido Peterson	Phinney Picard (Drummond) Pickard (Chatham--Kent Essex) Pillitteri Plamondon Price Proctor Proulx Redman Reed (Halton) Regan Robillard Robinson Rocheleau Rock Roy Saada Sauvageau Savoy Schellenberger Scherrer Scott Serré Sgro Shepherd Simard Speller St-Jacques St-Julien St. Denis Steckle Stewart Stoffer Szabo Telegdi Thibault (West Nova) Thibeault (Saint-Lambert) Thompson (New Brunswick Southwest) Tonks Tremblay Ur Valeri Vanclief Volpe Wappel Wasylycia-Leis Wayne Whelan -- 194

NAYS -- CONTRE
Abbott Ablonczy Anders Anderson (Cypress Hills—Grasslands) Bailey Benoit Breitkreuz Burton Cadman Casson Chatters Cummins Day Duncan Elley Epp	Fitzpatrick Forseth Gallant Goldring Gouk Grewal Grey Hanger Harper Harris Hill (Macleod) Hill (Prince George--Peace River) Hilstrom Hinton Jaffer Johnston	Kenney (Calgary Southeast) Lunn (Saanich—Gulf Islands) Lunney (Nanaimo—Alberni) Martin (Esquimalt--Juan de Fuca) Mayfield McNally Meredith Merrifield Mills (Red Deer) Obhrai Pallister Penson Rajotte Reid (Lanark—Carleton) Reynolds	Ritz Schmidt Skelton Solberg Sorenson Spencer Stinson Strahl Thompson (Wild Rose) Toews Vellacott White (Langley--Abbotsford) White (North Vancouver) Williams Yelich -- 62

PAIRED -- PAIRÉS
Copps Desrochers Dhaliwal	Fournier Gaudet Goodale	Lalonde Owen	Pettigrew St-Hilaire

Accordingly, the Bill, as amended, was concurred in at report stage and read a second time and ordered for a third reading at the next sitting of the House.

Private Members' Business

Pursuant to Standing Order 98(4), the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded divisions at report stage of Bill C-250, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (hate propaganda), as deemed reported by the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights without amendment.

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 2 of Mr. Toews (Provencher) , seconded by Mr. Grewal (Surrey Central) , — That Bill C-250 be amended by adding after line 9 on page 1 the following new clause:

“2. Subsection 319(6) of the the Act is replaced by the following:

(6) No proceeding for an offence under subsection (1) or (2) shall be instituted without the consent of the Attorney General.”

The question was put on Motion No. 2 and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division No. 213 -- Vote n^o 213)
YEAS: 91, NAYS: 152

YEAS -- POUR
Abbott Ablonczy Anders Anderson (Cypress Hills—Grasslands) Bailey Barnes (Gander—Grand Falls) Benoit Bonin Borotsik Breitkreuz Burton Cadman Calder Cannis Casey Casson Chatters Clark Cummins Day Doyle Duncan Elley	Epp Fitzpatrick Fontana Forseth Gallant Goldring Gouk Grewal Grey Guarnieri Hanger Harper Harris Hill (Macleod) Hill (Prince George--Peace River) Hilstrom Hinton Jaffer Johnston Karygiannis Keddy (South Shore) Kenney (Calgary Southeast) Lunn (Saanich—Gulf Islands)	Lunney (Nanaimo—Alberni) MacKay (Pictou—Antigonish—Guysborough) Malhi Mark Marleau Martin (Esquimalt--Juan de Fuca) Mayfield McGuire McNally McTeague Meredith Merrifield Mills (Red Deer) O'Brien (London--Fanshawe) O'Reilly Obhrai Pallister Penson Peric Peschisolido Pillitteri Rajotte Reid (Lanark—Carleton)	Reynolds Ritz Schellenberger Schmidt Skelton Solberg Sorenson Speller Spencer Stinson Strahl Thompson (Wild Rose) Thompson (New Brunswick Southwest) Toews Vellacott Volpe Wappel Wayne White (Langley--Abbotsford) White (North Vancouver) Williams Yelich -- 91

NAYS -- CONTRE
Adams Alcock Anderson (Victoria) Assadourian Asselin Augustine Bachand (Saint-Jean) Bachand (Richmond--Arthabaska) Bagnell Barnes (London West) Barrette Bélair Bélanger Bellemare Bennett Bergeron Bigras Binet Blaikie Blondin-Andrew Bonwick Boudria Bourgeois Bradshaw Brison Brown Bryden Bulte Byrne Caccia Caplan Cardin Carignan Carroll Catterall Cauchon Chamberlain Charbonneau	Coderre Collenette Comartin Crête Cullen Cuzner Dalphond-Guiral Davies DeVillers Dion Dromisky Drouin Duceppe Easter Eggleton Eyking Finlay Folco Frulla Fry Gagnon (Champlain) Gagnon (Lac-Saint-Jean—Saguenay) Gagnon (Québec) Gauthier Girard-Bujold Godfrey Godin Graham Grose Guay Guimond Harvard Harvey Herron Hubbard Ianno Jackson Jennings	Jobin Jordan Karetak-Lindell Keyes Kilgour (Edmonton Southeast) Knutson Kraft Sloan Laframboise Lanctôt LeBlanc Lee Lill Lincoln Loubier Macklin Mahoney Maloney Marceau Martin (Winnipeg Centre) Martin (LaSalle--Émard) Masse McCallum McDonough McLellan Ménard Minna Mitchell Murphy Nault Neville Normand Nystrom Pacetti Paquette Paradis Parrish Patry Peterson	Phinney Picard (Drummond) Plamondon Price Proctor Proulx Redman Reed (Halton) Regan Robillard Robinson Rocheleau Rock Roy Saada Sauvageau Scherrer Scott Sgro Shepherd Simard St-Jacques St-Julien St. Denis Steckle Stewart Stoffer Szabo Telegdi Thibault (West Nova) Thibeault (Saint-Lambert) Tonks Tremblay Ur Valeri Vanclief Wasylycia-Leis Whelan -- 152

PAIRED -- PAIRÉS
Copps Desrochers Dhaliwal	Fournier Gaudet Goodale	Lalonde Owen	Pettigrew St-Hilaire

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 3 of Mr. Toews (Provencher) , seconded by Mr. Grewal (Surrey Central) , — That Bill C-250 be amended by adding after line 9 on page 1 the following new clause:

“3. The definition “hate propaganda” in subsection 320(8) of the Act is replaced by the following:

“hate propaganda” means any writing, sign or visible representation that advocates or promotes genocide or the communication of which by any person would constitute an offence under section 319 and does not include any religious text or part thereof;”

The question was put on Motion No. 3 and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division No. 214 -- Vote n^o 214)
YEAS: 101, NAYS: 145

YEAS -- POUR
Abbott Ablonczy Anders Anderson (Cypress Hills—Grasslands) Bagnell Bailey Barnes (Gander—Grand Falls) Bélair Benoit Bertrand Bonin Borotsik Breitkreuz Brison Burton Cadman Calder Cannis Casey Casson Chamberlain Chatters Clark Cummins Day Desjarlais	Doyle Duncan Efford Elley Epp Fitzpatrick Fontana Forseth Gallant Goldring Gouk Grewal Grey Guarnieri Hanger Harper Harris Hill (Macleod) Hill (Prince George--Peace River) Hilstrom Hinton Jaffer Johnston Karygiannis Keddy (South Shore)	Kenney (Calgary Southeast) Lunn (Saanich—Gulf Islands) Lunney (Nanaimo—Alberni) MacKay (Pictou—Antigonish—Guysborough) Malhi Mark Marleau Martin (Esquimalt--Juan de Fuca) Mayfield McNally McTeague Meredith Merrifield Mills (Red Deer) O'Brien (London--Fanshawe) Obhrai Pallister Penson Peric Peschisolido Pickard (Chatham--Kent Essex) Pillitteri Rajotte Reed (Halton) Reid (Lanark—Carleton)	Reynolds Ritz Savoy Schellenberger Schmidt Serré Skelton Solberg Sorenson Speller Spencer Stinson Stoffer Strahl Thompson (Wild Rose) Thompson (New Brunswick Southwest) Toews Vellacott Volpe Wappel Wayne White (Langley--Abbotsford) White (North Vancouver) Williams Yelich -- 101

NAYS -- CONTRE
Adams Alcock Anderson (Victoria) Assadourian Asselin Augustine Bachand (Saint-Jean) Bachand (Richmond--Arthabaska) Barnes (London West) Barrette Bélanger Bellemare Bennett Bergeron Bigras Binet Blaikie Blondin-Andrew Bonwick Boudria Bourgeois Bradshaw Brown Bryden Bulte Byrne Caccia Caplan Cardin Carignan Carroll Catterall Cauchon Charbonneau Coderre Collenette Comartin	Crête Cuzner Dalphond-Guiral Davies DeVillers Dion Dromisky Drouin Duceppe Easter Eggleton Eyking Finlay Folco Frulla Fry Gagnon (Champlain) Gagnon (Lac-Saint-Jean—Saguenay) Gagnon (Québec) Gauthier Girard-Bujold Godfrey Godin Graham Grose Guay Guimond Harvard Harvey Herron Hubbard Ianno Jackson Jennings Jobin Jordan	Karetak-Lindell Keyes Kilgour (Edmonton Southeast) Knutson Kraft Sloan Laframboise Lanctôt LeBlanc Lee Lill Lincoln Loubier Macklin Mahoney Maloney Marceau Martin (Winnipeg Centre) Martin (LaSalle--Émard) Masse McCallum McDonough McLellan Ménard Minna Mitchell Murphy Nault Neville Normand Nystrom O'Reilly Pacetti Paquette Paradis Parrish Patry	Peterson Phinney Picard (Drummond) Plamondon Price Proctor Proulx Redman Robillard Robinson Rocheleau Rock Roy Saada Sauvageau Scherrer Scott Sgro Shepherd Simard St-Jacques St-Julien St. Denis Steckle Stewart Szabo Telegdi Thibault (West Nova) Thibeault (Saint-Lambert) Tonks Tremblay Ur Valeri Vanclief Wasylycia-Leis Whelan -- 145

PAIRED -- PAIRÉS
Copps Desrochers Dhaliwal	Fournier Gaudet Goodale	Lalonde Owen	Pettigrew St-Hilaire

Pursuant to Standing Order 98(4), Mr. Robinson (Burnaby—Douglas) , seconded by Ms. Davies (Vancouver East) , moved, — That the Bill be concurred in at report stage with an amendment.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:

(Division No. 215 -- Vote n^o 215)
YEAS: 143, NAYS: 110

YEAS -- POUR
Adams Alcock Anderson (Victoria) Asselin Augustine Bachand (Saint-Jean) Bachand (Richmond--Arthabaska) Bagnell Barnes (London West) Barrette Bélanger Bennett Bergeron Bigras Binet Blaikie Blondin-Andrew Bonwick Borotsik Boudria Bourgeois Bradshaw Brison Brown Bulte Byrne Caccia Caplan Cardin Carignan Carroll Catterall Cauchon Charbonneau Clark Coderre	Collenette Comartin Crête Cullen Cuzner Dalphond-Guiral Davies Desjarlais DeVillers Dion Dromisky Drouin Duceppe Easter Eggleton Eyking Finlay Folco Fontana Frulla Fry Gagnon (Champlain) Gagnon (Lac-Saint-Jean—Saguenay) Gagnon (Québec) Gauthier Girard-Bujold Godfrey Godin Graham Grose Guarnieri Guay Guimond Harvard Harvey Herron	Ianno Jennings Jobin Jordan Keddy (South Shore) Keyes Kilgour (Edmonton Southeast) Knutson Kraft Sloan Laframboise Lanctôt LeBlanc Lee Lill Lincoln Loubier MacKay (Pictou—Antigonish—Guysborough) Macklin Mahoney Maloney Marceau Martin (Winnipeg Centre) Martin (LaSalle--Émard) Masse McCallum McDonough McLellan Ménard Minna Mitchell Murphy Nault Neville Normand Nystrom Paquette	Paradis Parrish Patry Peterson Phinney Picard (Drummond) Plamondon Price Proctor Proulx Redman Regan Robillard Robinson Rocheleau Rock Roy Saada Sauvageau Scherrer Scott Sgro Shepherd Simard St-Jacques St. Denis Stewart Stoffer Telegdi Thibault (West Nova) Thibeault (Saint-Lambert) Tremblay Vanclief Wasylycia-Leis Whelan -- 143

NAYS -- CONTRE
Abbott Ablonczy Anders Anderson (Cypress Hills—Grasslands) Assadourian Bailey Barnes (Gander—Grand Falls) Bélair Bellemare Benoit Bertrand Bonin Breitkreuz Bryden Burton Cadman Calder Cannis Casey Casson Chamberlain Chatters Cummins Day Doyle Duncan Efford Elley	Epp Fitzpatrick Forseth Gallant Goldring Gouk Grewal Grey Hanger Harper Harris Hill (Macleod) Hill (Prince George--Peace River) Hilstrom Hinton Hubbard Jackson Jaffer Johnston Karetak-Lindell Karygiannis Kenney (Calgary Southeast) Lastewka Longfield Lunn (Saanich—Gulf Islands) Lunney (Nanaimo—Alberni) Malhi Mark	Marleau Martin (Esquimalt--Juan de Fuca) Mayfield McCormick McGuire McKay (Scarborough East) McNally McTeague Meredith Merrifield Mills (Red Deer) O'Brien (London--Fanshawe) O'Reilly Obhrai Pacetti Pallister Penson Peric Peschisolido Pickard (Chatham--Kent Essex) Pillitteri Rajotte Reed (Halton) Reid (Lanark—Carleton) Reynolds Ritz Savoy	Schellenberger Schmidt Serré Skelton Solberg Sorenson Speller Spencer St-Julien Steckle Stinson Strahl Szabo Thompson (New Brunswick Southwest) Thompson (Wild Rose) Toews Tonks Ur Valeri Vellacott Volpe Wappel Wayne White (Langley--Abbotsford) White (North Vancouver) Williams Yelich -- 110

PAIRED -- PAIRÉS
Copps Desrochers Dhaliwal	Fournier Gaudet Goodale	Lalonde Owen	Pettigrew St-Hilaire

Accordingly, the Bill was concurred in at report stage with an amendment.

Pursuant to Standing Order 98(4), Mr. Robinson (Burnaby—Douglas) , seconded by Ms. Davies (Vancouver East) , moved, — That the Bill be now read a third time and do pass.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:

(Division No. 216 -- Vote n^o 216)
YEAS: 141, NAYS: 110

YEAS -- POUR
Adams Alcock Asselin Augustine Bachand (Saint-Jean) Bachand (Richmond--Arthabaska) Bagnell Barnes (London West) Barrette Bélanger Bennett Bergeron Bigras Binet Blaikie Blondin-Andrew Bonwick Borotsik Boudria Bourgeois Bradshaw Brison Brown Bulte Byrne Caccia Caplan Cardin Carignan Carroll Catterall Cauchon Charbonneau Clark Coderre Collenette	Comartin Crête Cullen Cuzner Dalphond-Guiral Davies Desjarlais DeVillers Dion Dromisky Drouin Duceppe Easter Eggleton Eyking Finlay Folco Fontana Frulla Fry Gagnon (Champlain) Gagnon (Lac-Saint-Jean—Saguenay) Gagnon (Québec) Gauthier Girard-Bujold Godfrey Godin Graham Grose Guarnieri Guay Guimond Harvard Harvey Herron	Ianno Jennings Jobin Jordan Keddy (South Shore) Keyes Kilgour (Edmonton Southeast) Knutson Kraft Sloan Laframboise Lanctôt LeBlanc Lee Lill Lincoln Loubier MacKay (Pictou—Antigonish—Guysborough) Macklin Mahoney Maloney Marceau Martin (Winnipeg Centre) Martin (LaSalle--Émard) Masse McCallum McDonough McLellan Ménard Minna Mitchell Murphy Nault Neville Normand Nystrom	Paquette Paradis Parrish Patry Peterson Phinney Picard (Drummond) Plamondon Price Proctor Proulx Redman Regan Robillard Robinson Rocheleau Rock Roy Saada Sauvageau Scott Sgro Shepherd Simard St-Jacques St. Denis Stewart Stoffer Telegdi Thibault (West Nova) Thibeault (Saint-Lambert) Tremblay Vanclief Wasylycia-Leis Whelan -- 141

NAYS -- CONTRE
Abbott Ablonczy Anders Anderson (Cypress Hills—Grasslands) Assadourian Bailey Barnes (Gander—Grand Falls) Bélair Bellemare Benoit Bertrand Bonin Breitkreuz Bryden Burton Cadman Calder Cannis Casey Casson Chamberlain Chatters Cummins Day Doyle Duncan Efford Elley	Epp Fitzpatrick Forseth Gallant Goldring Gouk Grewal Grey Hanger Harper Harris Hill (Macleod) Hill (Prince George--Peace River) Hilstrom Hinton Hubbard Jackson Jaffer Johnston Karetak-Lindell Karygiannis Kenney (Calgary Southeast) Lastewka Longfield Lunn (Saanich—Gulf Islands) Lunney (Nanaimo—Alberni) Malhi Mark	Marleau Martin (Esquimalt--Juan de Fuca) Mayfield McCormick McGuire McKay (Scarborough East) McNally McTeague Meredith Merrifield Mills (Red Deer) O'Brien (London--Fanshawe) O'Reilly Obhrai Pacetti Pallister Penson Peric Peschisolido Pickard (Chatham--Kent Essex) Pillitteri Rajotte Reed (Halton) Reid (Lanark—Carleton) Reynolds Ritz Savoy	Schellenberger Schmidt Serré Skelton Solberg Sorenson Speller Spencer St-Julien Steckle Stinson Strahl Szabo Thompson (New Brunswick Southwest) Thompson (Wild Rose) Toews Tonks Ur Valeri Vellacott Volpe Wappel Wayne White (Langley--Abbotsford) White (North Vancouver) Williams Yelich -- 110

PAIRED -- PAIRÉS
Copps Desrochers Dhaliwal	Fournier Gaudet Goodale	Lalonde Owen	Pettigrew St-Hilaire

Accordingly, the Bill was read the third time and passed.

Pursuant to Standing Order 93(1), the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the motion of Mr. Bachand (Saint-Jean) , seconded by Ms. Girard-Bujold (Jonquière) , — That, in the opinion of this House, the government should make available to Members a support fund for community activities in each of their ridings. (Private Members' Business M-393)

The question was put on the motion and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division No. 217 -- Vote n^o 217)
YEAS: 82, NAYS: 151

YEAS -- POUR
Assadourian Asselin Bachand (Saint-Jean) Bachand (Richmond--Arthabaska) Barnes (Gander—Grand Falls) Barrette Bélair Bélanger Bergeron Bertrand Bigras Blaikie Bonin Borotsik Bourgeois Brison Bulte Cannis Cardin Carignan Charbonneau	Clark Comartin Crête Cullen Cuzner Dalphond-Guiral Davies Doyle Duceppe Efford Frulla Gagnon (Champlain) Gagnon (Lac-Saint-Jean—Saguenay) Gagnon (Québec) Gauthier Girard-Bujold Godin Guay Guimond Jennings Jobin	Karygiannis Keddy (South Shore) Laframboise Lanctôt Lebel LeBlanc Lincoln Loubier MacKay (Pictou—Antigonish—Guysborough) Marceau Mark Martin (Winnipeg Centre) Martin (Esquimalt--Juan de Fuca) McGuire Ménard Neville Normand Nystrom Pacetti Paquette	Peric Picard (Drummond) Pillitteri Plamondon Price Proctor Proulx Robinson Roy Saada Sauvageau Schellenberger St-Jacques St-Julien Stoffer Thibeault (Saint-Lambert) Thompson (New Brunswick Southwest) Tremblay Wasylycia-Leis Wayne -- 82

NAYS -- CONTRE
Abbott Ablonczy Adams Anders Anderson (Cypress Hills—Grasslands) Augustine Bagnell Bailey Bellemare Bennett Benoit Blondin-Andrew Bonwick Boudria Bradshaw Breitkreuz Brown Bryden Burton Byrne Caccia Cadman Calder Caplan Carroll Casson Cauchon Chamberlain Chatters Collenette Cummins Day Desjarlais DeVillers Dion Dromisky Drouin Duncan	Easter Eggleton Elley Epp Eyking Finlay Fitzpatrick Folco Fontana Forseth Fry Gallant Godfrey Goldring Grewal Grey Grose Hanger Harper Harris Harvard Harvey Herron Hill (Prince George--Peace River) Hill (Macleod) Hilstrom Hinton Hubbard Ianno Jackson Jaffer Johnston Jordan Kenney (Calgary Southeast) Keyes Kilgour (Edmonton Southeast) Knutson Kraft Sloan	Lee Lill Longfield Lunn (Saanich—Gulf Islands) Lunney (Nanaimo—Alberni) Macklin Mahoney Malhi Maloney Marleau Martin (LaSalle--Émard) Masse Mayfield McCallum McCormick McDonough McKay (Scarborough East) McLellan McNally Meredith Merrifield Mills (Red Deer) Minna Mitchell Nault O'Reilly Obhrai Pallister Penson Peschisolido Peterson Phinney Pickard (Chatham--Kent Essex) Rajotte Redman Reed (Halton) Regan Reid (Lanark—Carleton)	Reynolds Ritz Robillard Rocheleau Rock Savoy Schmidt Scott Sgro Shepherd Simard Skelton Solberg Sorenson Speller Spencer St. Denis Steckle Stewart Stinson Strahl Szabo Telegdi Thibault (West Nova) Thompson (Wild Rose) Toews Tonks Ur Valeri Vanclief Vellacott Volpe Wappel Whelan White (Langley--Abbotsford) White (North Vancouver) Yelich -- 151

PAIRED -- PAIRÉS
Copps Desrochers Dhaliwal	Fournier Gaudet Goodale	Lalonde Owen	Pettigrew St-Hilaire

Pursuant to Order made Tuesday, September 16, 2003, the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the motion of Mrs. Ablonczy (Calgary—Nose Hill) , seconded by Mr. Thompson (Wild Rose) , — That Bill C-421, An Act respecting the establishment of the Office of the Chief Actuary of Canada and to amend other Acts in consequence thereof, be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Finance.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:

(Division No. 218 -- Vote n^o 218)
YEAS: 116, NAYS: 98

YEAS -- POUR
Abbott Ablonczy Anders Anderson (Cypress Hills—Grasslands) Asselin Bachand (Saint-Jean) Bachand (Richmond--Arthabaska) Bailey Barnes (Gander—Grand Falls) Benoit Bergeron Bigras Blaikie Borotsik Bourgeois Breitkreuz Brison Burton Cadman Cardin Casson Chatters Clark Comartin Crête Cummins Dalphond-Guiral Davies Day	Desjarlais Doyle Duncan Elley Epp Fitzpatrick Forseth Gagnon (Québec) Gagnon (Champlain) Gagnon (Lac-Saint-Jean—Saguenay) Gallant Gauthier Girard-Bujold Godin Goldring Gouk Grewal Grey Guay Guimond Hanger Harper Harris Herron Hill (Macleod) Hill (Prince George--Peace River) Hilstrom Hinton Jaffer	Johnston Keddy (South Shore) Kenney (Calgary Southeast) Laframboise Lanctôt Lill Loubier Lunn (Saanich—Gulf Islands) Lunney (Nanaimo—Alberni) Marceau Mark Martin (Esquimalt--Juan de Fuca) Masse Mayfield McDonough McNally Ménard Meredith Merrifield Mills (Red Deer) Obhrai Pacetti Pallister Paquette Penson Picard (Drummond) Plamondon Proctor Rajotte	Reid (Lanark—Carleton) Reynolds Ritz Rocheleau Roy Sauvageau Schellenberger Schmidt Shepherd Skelton Solberg Sorenson Spencer Steckle Stinson Stoffer Strahl Szabo Telegdi Thompson (Wild Rose) Thompson (New Brunswick Southwest) Toews Vellacott Wappel Wasylycia-Leis Wayne White (Langley--Abbotsford) White (North Vancouver) Yelich -- 116

NAYS -- CONTRE
Adams Assadourian Augustine Bagnell Barrette Bélair Bélanger Bellemare Bertrand Binet Blondin-Andrew Boudria Bradshaw Brown Bryden Bulte Byrne Caccia Calder Cannis Caplan Carignan Carroll Cauchon Chamberlain	Charbonneau Collenette Cullen Cuzner DeVillers Dion Dromisky Drouin Easter Eggleton Eyking Finlay Folco Frulla Fry Godfrey Grose Harvard Harvey Hubbard Ianno Jackson Jobin Jordan Karetak-Lindell	Karygiannis Kilgour (Edmonton Southeast) Knutson Kraft Sloan LeBlanc Lee Lincoln Macklin Mahoney Malhi Maloney Marleau Martin (LaSalle--Émard) McCormick McGuire McLellan Minna Mitchell Murphy Nault Neville O'Reilly Peschisolido Peterson	Phinney Pickard (Chatham--Kent Essex) Price Proulx Redman Reed (Halton) Regan Robillard Saada Savoy Scott Sgro Simard Speller St-Jacques St. Denis Stewart Thibault (West Nova) Thibeault (Saint-Lambert) Tonks Ur Valeri Vanclief Whelan -- 98

PAIRED -- PAIRÉS
Copps Desrochers Dhaliwal	Fournier Gaudet Goodale	Lalonde Owen	Pettigrew St-Hilaire

Accordingly, Bill C-421, An Act respecting the establishment of the Office of the Chief Actuary of Canada and to amend other Acts in consequence thereof, was read the second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Finance.

Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(1), papers deposited with the Clerk of the House were laid upon the Table as follows:

— by Mr. Rock (Minister of Industry) — Reports of Statistics Canada for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2003, pursuant to the Access to Information Act and to the Privacy Act, R.S. 1985, c. A-1 and P-21, sbs. 72(2). — Sessional Paper No. 8561-372-655-02. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights)

— by Mrs. Stewart (Minister of Human Resources Development) — Reports of the Department of Human Resources Development for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2003, pursuant to the Access to Information Act and to the Privacy Act, R.S. 1985, c. A-1 and P-21, sbs. 72(2). — Sessional Paper No. 8561-372-393-02. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights)

Petitions Filed with the Clerk of the House

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were filed as follows:

— by Mrs. Barnes (London West) , one concerning pornography (No. 372-1955), one concerning the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms (No. 372-1956) and one concerning abortion (No. 372-1957);

— by Mrs. Chamberlain (Guelph—Wellington) , one concerning the Canada Post Corporation (No. 372-1958) and one concerning stem cell research (No. 372-1959).

Adjournment Proceedings

At 7:11 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 38(1), the question “That this House do now adjourn” was deemed to have been proposed.

After debate, the question was deemed to have been adopted.

Accordingly, at 7:23 p.m., the Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow at 10:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).