HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA
37th PARLIAMENT, 2nd SESSION

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JOURNALS

No. 16

Monday, October 28, 2002

11:00 a.m.

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Prayers

Government Orders

Ms. Robillard (President of the Treasury Board) for Ms. McLellan (Minister of Health) , seconded by Mr. McCallum (Minister of National Defence) , moved, — That this House take note of the on-going public discussion of the future of the Canadian health care system. (Government Business No. 4)

Debate arose thereon.

DEFERRED RECORDED DIVISIONS

Pursuant to Standing Order 45, the recorded divisions on Bills C-4 and C-3 and the opposition motion on the Kyoto Protocol, deferred until Tuesday, October 29, 2002, at the expiry of the time provided for Oral Questions, were further deferred until Tuesday, October 29, 2002, at the expiry of the time provided for Government Orders.

Government Orders

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Ms. McLellan (Minister of Health) , seconded by Mr. McCallum (Minister of National Defence) . (Government Business No. 4)

The debate continued.

Statements By Members

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

Oral Questions

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

Daily Routine Of Business

Tabling of Documents

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Coderre (Minister of Citizenship and Immigration) laid upon the Table, — Document entitled “Proposed Regulations Amending the Immigration and Refugee Protection Regulations (in relation to the Safe Third Country Agreements) and Regulatory Impact Analysis Statement”. — Sessional Paper No. 8525-372-05.

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Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. O'Brien (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister for International Trade) laid upon the Table, — Response of the government, pursuant to Standing Order 109, to the 22nd Report of the Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs and International Trade (Strengthening Canada's Economic Links with the Americas) (Sessional Paper No. 8510-371-189), presented to the House on Friday, June 14, 2002. — Sessional Paper No. 8512-372-189.

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Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Jordan (Parliamentary Secretary to the Prime Minister) laid upon the Table, — Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to the following petitions:

— Nos. 372-0008, 372-0009, 372-0013, 372-0014, 372-0018, 372-0030, 372-0031, 372-0036, 372-0051, 372-0052, 372-0055, 372-0056, 372-0057, 372-0063, 372-0068, 372-0070, 372-0075, 372-0080, 372-0083 and 372-0085 concerning stem cell research. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-372-14-02.

Introduction of Private Members' Bills

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Nystrom (Regina—Qu'Appelle) , seconded by Mr. Comartin (Windsor—St. Clair) , Bill C-261, An Act to ensure the necessary supply of patented drugs in cases of domestic emergency or to deal with crises in countries that receive assistance from Canada, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

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Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Nystrom (Regina—Qu'Appelle) , seconded by Mr. Stoffer (Sackville—Musquodoboit Valley—Eastern Shore) , Bill C-262, An Act to amend the Income Tax Act (deductibility of expense of tools provided as a requirement of employment), was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

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Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Nystrom (Regina—Qu'Appelle) , seconded by Mr. Stoffer (Sackville—Musquodoboit Valley—Eastern Shore) , Bill C-263, An Act to establish the office of Pension Ombudsman to investigate administrative difficulties encountered by persons in their dealings with government in respect of benefits under the Canada Pension Plan or the Old Age Security Act or tax liability on such benefits and to review the policies and practices applied in the administration and adjudication of such benefits and liabilities, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

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Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Nystrom (Regina—Qu'Appelle) , seconded by Mr. Stoffer (Sackville—Musquodoboit Valley—Eastern Shore) , Bill C-264, An Act to provide cost of production protection for the family farm, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

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Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Nystrom (Regina—Qu'Appelle) , seconded by Mr. Stoffer (Sackville—Musquodoboit Valley—Eastern Shore) , Bill C-265, An Act to provide for a House of Commons Committee to study proportional representation in federal elections, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

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Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Nystrom (Regina—Qu'Appelle) , seconded by Mr. Stoffer (Sackville—Musquodoboit Valley—Eastern Shore) , Bill C-266, An Act to establish the office of Credit Ombudsman to be an advocate for the interests of consumers and small business in credit matters and to investigate and report on the provision by financial institutions of consumer and small business credit by community and by industry in order to ensure equity in the distribution of credit resources, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

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Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Nystrom (Regina—Qu'Appelle) , seconded by Mr. Stoffer (Sackville—Musquodoboit Valley—Eastern Shore) , Bill C-267, An Act to amend the Canada Pension Plan (early pension entitlement for police officers and firefighters), was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

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Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Nystrom (Regina—Qu'Appelle) , seconded by Mr. Stoffer (Sackville—Musquodoboit Valley—Eastern Shore) , Bill C-268, An Act to amend the Interest Act (interest payable on repayment of a mortgage loan before maturity), was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

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Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Pratt (Nepean—Carleton) , seconded by Mr. Price (Compton—Stanstead) , Bill C-269, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (firefighters), was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

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Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Hill (Prince George—Peace River) , seconded by Mr. Hanger (Calgary Northeast) , Bill C-270, An Act to amend the Witness Protection Program Act and to make a consequential amendment to another Act (protection of spouses whose life is in danger), was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Presenting Petitions

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were presented as follows:

— by Mr. Godin (Acadie—Bathurst) , one concerning oil products (No. 372-0335);

— by Mr. Szabo (Mississauga South) , one concerning alcoholic beverages (No. 372-0336) and one concerning stem cell research (No. 372-0337);

— by Mr. Schmidt (Kelowna) , one concerning the Canada Post Corporation (No. 372-0338), one concerning the Robert Latimer case (No. 372-0339) and one concerning pornography (No. 372-0340);

— by Mr. Hill (Macleod) , one concerning pornography (No. 372-0341);

— by Mr. Williams (St. Albert) , one concerning pornography (No. 372-0342);

— by Mr. Merrifield (Yellowhead) , one concerning the Robert Latimer case (No. 372-0343);

— by Mr. Thompson (New Brunswick Southwest) , four concerning pornography (Nos. 372-0344 to 372-0347);

— by Mr. Toews (Provencher) , two concerning pornography (Nos. 372-0348 and 372-0349);

— by Mr. Pankiw (Saskatoon—Humboldt) , one concerning stem cell research (No. 372-0350);

— by Mr. Hill (Prince George—Peace River) , three concerning pornography (Nos. 372-0351 to 372-0353);

— by Mr. Calder (Dufferin—Peel—Wellington—Grey) , one concerning pornography (No. 372-0354);

— by Ms. Davies (Vancouver East) , one concerning Chinese Canadians (No. 372-0355);

— by Mrs. Yelich (Blackstrap) , one concerning stem cell research (No. 372-0356);

— by Mr. Penson (Peace River) , two concerning pornography (Nos. 372-0357 and 372-0358);

— by Mr. St. Denis (Algoma—Manitoulin) , one concerning stem cell research (No. 372-0359).

Government Orders

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Ms. McLellan (Minister of Health) , seconded by Mr. McCallum (Minister of National Defence) , — That this House take note of the on-going public discussion of the future of the Canadian health care system. (Government Business No. 4)

The debate continued.

Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(1), papers deposited with the Clerk of the House were laid upon the Table as follows:

— by Mr. Cauchon (Minister of Justice) — Reports of the Canadian Human Rights Tribunal for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2002, pursuant to the Access to Information Act and to the Privacy Act, R. S. 1985, c. A-1 and P-21, sbs. 72(2). — Sessional Paper No. 8561-372-860-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights)

— by Ms. Copps (Minister of Canadian Heritage) — Reports of the National Film Board for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2002, pursuant to the Access to Information Act and to the Privacy Act, R. S. 1985, c. A-1 and P-21, sbs. 72(2). — Sessional Paper No. 8561-372-394-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights)

— by Ms. Copps (Minister of Canadian Heritage) — Reports of the Canadian Museum of Nature for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2002, pursuant to the Access to Information Act and to the Privacy Act, R. S. 1985, c. A-1 and P-21, sbs. 72(2). — Sessional Paper No. 8561-372-478-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights)

— by Ms. Copps (Minister of Canadian Heritage) — Reports of the National Gallery of Canada for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2002, pursuant to the Access to Information Act and to the Privacy Act, R. S. 1985, c. A-1 and P-21, sbs. 72(2). — Sessional Paper No. 8561-372-479-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights)

— by Ms. Copps (Minister of Canadian Heritage) — Reports of the Historic Sites and Monuments Board of Canada for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2002, pursuant to the Access to Information Act and to the Privacy Act, R.S. 1985, c. A-1 and P-21, sbs. 72(2). — Sessional Paper No. 8561-372-562-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 35(2), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights)

— by Ms. Copps (Minister of Canadian Heritage) — Reports of the National Battlefields Commission for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2002, pursuant to the Access to Information Act and to the Privacy Act, R.S. 1985, c. A-1 and P-21, sbs. 72(2). — Sessional Paper No. 8561-372-563-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights)

— by Ms. Copps (Minister of Canadian Heritage) — Reports of the Canada Science and Technology Museum Corporation for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2002, pursuant to the Access to Information Act and to the Privacy Act, R.S. 1985, c. A-1 and P-21, sbs. 72(2). — Sessional Paper No. 8561-372-588-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights)

— by Ms. Copps (Minister of Canadian Heritage) — Reports of the Canadian Museum of Civilization Corporation for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2002, pursuant to the Access to Information Act and to the Privacy Act, R.S. 1985, c. A-1 and P-21, sbs. 72(2). — Sessional Paper No. 8561-372-590-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights)

— by Ms. Copps (Minister of Canadian Heritage) — Reports of the Public Service Commission of Canada for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2002, pursuant to the Access to Information Act and to the Privacy Act, R.S. 1985, c. A-1 and P-21, sbs 72(2). — Sessional Paper No. 8561-372-659-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights)

— by Ms. Copps (Minister of Canadian Heritage) — Reports of the Canadian Cultural Property Export Review Board for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2002, pursuant to the Access to Information Act and to the Privacy Act, R. S. 1985, c. A-1 and P-21, sbs. 72(2). — Sessional Paper No. 8561-372-664-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights)

— by Ms. Copps (Minister of Canadian Heritage) — Reports of the Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission (CRTC) for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2002, pursuant to the Access to Information Act and to the Privacy Act, R.S. 1985, c. A-1 and P-21, sbs. 72(2). — Sessional Paper No. 8561-372-666-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights)

— by Ms. Copps (Minister of Canadian Heritage) — Reports of the National Archives of Canada for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2002, pursuant to the Access to Information Act and to the Privacy Act, R. S. 1985, c. A-1 and P-21, sbs. 72(2). — Sessional Paper No. 8561-372-667-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights)

— by Ms. Copps (Minister of Canadian Heritage) — Reports of Telefilm Canada for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2002, pursuant to the Access to Information Act and to the Privacy Act, R. S. 1985, c. A-1 and P-21, sbs. 72(2). — Sessional Paper No. 8561-372-668-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 35(2), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights)

— by Ms. Copps (Minister of Canadian Heritage) — Report of the National Arts Centre for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2002, pursuant to the Privacy Act, R.S. 1985, c. P-21, sbs. 72(2). — Sessional Paper No. 8561-372-670-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights)

— by Ms. Copps (Minister of Canadian Heritage) — Reports of the National Capital Commission for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2002, pursuant to the Access to Information Act and to the Privacy Act, R. S. 1985, c. A-1 and P-21, sbs. 72(2). — Sessional Paper No. 8561-372-683-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights)

— by Ms. Copps (Minister of Canadian Heritage) — Reports of the Canada Council for the Arts for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2002, pursuant to the Access to Information Act and to the Privacy Act, R. S. 1985, c. A-1 and P-21, sbs. 72(2). — Sessional Paper No. 8561-372-711-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights)

— by Ms. Copps (Minister of Canadian Heritage) — Reports of the National Library of Canada for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2002, pursuant to the Access to Information and Privacy Acts, R. S. 1985, c. A-1 and P-21, sbs.72(2). — Sessional Paper No. 8561-372-729-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights)

— by Mr. Dhaliwal (Minister of Natural Resources) — Erratum concerning the Report of the Canadian Nuclear Safety Commission, together with the Auditor General's Report, for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2002 (Sessional Paper No. 8560-371-771-02), pursuant to the Nuclear Safety and Control Act, S.C. 1997, c. 9, s. 72. — Sessional Paper No. 8560-372-771-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Aboriginal Affairs, Northern Development and Natural Resources)

— by Mr. Rock (Minister of Industry) — Reports of the Canadian Space Agency for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2002, pursuant to the Access to Information Act and to the Privacy Act, R.S. 1985, c. A-1 and P-21, sbs. 72(2). — Sessional Paper No. 8561-372-502-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights)

— by Mr. Vanclief (Minister of Agriculture and Agri-Food) — Report of the Canadian Dairy Commission, together with the Auditor General's Report, for the year ended July 31, 2002, pursuant to the Financial Administration Act, R.S. 1985, c. F-11, sbs. 150(1). — Sessional Paper No. 8560-372-90-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Agriculture and Agri-Food)

— by Mr. Vanclief (Minister of Agriculture and Agri-Food) — Summaries of the Corporate Plan for the period 2002-03 to 2006-07 and of the Operating and Capital Budgets of the Canadian Dairy Commission, pursuant to the Financial Administration Act, R.S. 1985, c. F-11, sbs. 125(4). — Sessional Paper No. 8562-372-836-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Agriculture and Agri-Food)

Adjournment

At 6:30 p.m., the Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow at 10:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).