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HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA
37th PARLIAMENT, 2nd SESSION

JOURNALS

No. 77

Tuesday, March 25, 2003

10:00 a.m.

Prayers

Daily Routine Of Business

Tabling of Documents

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Regan (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, — Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to the following petitions:

— Nos. 372-1052, 372-1074, 372-1096, 372-1150, 372-1169, 372-1170 and 372-1195 concerning emergency preparedness. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-372-57-03;

— Nos. 372-1144 to 372-1147 concerning aboriginal affairs. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-372-7-09.

Presenting Reports from Committees

Mr. Wappel (Scarborough Southwest) , from the Standing Committee on Fisheries and Oceans, presented the Second Report of the Committee, “Custodial Management Outside Canada's 200-Mile Limit”. — Sessional Paper No. 8510-372-50.

Pursuant to Standing Order 109, the Committee requested that the government table a comprehensive response.

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings (Meetings Nos. 4, 8, 11 and 20) was tabled.

Presenting Petitions

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were presented as follows:

— by Mr. Wappel (Scarborough Southwest) , two concerning marriage (Nos. 372-1223 and 372-1224);

— by Mr. Jackson (Bruce—Grey—Owen Sound) , two concerning stem cell research (Nos. 372-1225 and 372-1226) and one concerning national parks (No. 372-1227);

— by Mr. Reid (Lanark—Carleton) , one concerning gun control (No. 372-1228).

Questions on Order Paper

Pursuant to Standing Order 39(7), Mr. Regan (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) presented the return to the following question made into an Order for Return:

Q-136 — Mr. Moore (Port Moody—Coquitlam—Port Coquitlam) — Responding with a list in both printed and electronic formats, what are the government's holdings in all its vehicle fleets as of December 31, 2002, including: (a) vehicle class; (b) model type; (c) model year; (d) colour; (e) size of engine (rating as per number of cylinders); (f) department holding the ownership; (g) original purchase price and date; (h) individual assigned to the vehicle (if applicable); and (i) fuel type? — Sessional Paper No. 8555-372-136.

Business of Supply

The Order was read for the consideration of the Business of Supply.

Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton—Melville) , seconded by Mr. Grewal (Surrey Central) , moved, — That, as this House supported the reduction of funds for the firearms program in the Supplementary Estimates on December 5, 2002, this House should continue to support the reduction of funds for the firearms program in this supply period and subsequent supply periods until the government can provide a comprehensive cost-benefit analysis for the program and provide an accurate total of expenditures to date and a realistic estimate of future costs of implementing the Firearms Act including the total cost:

(a) to fully enforce the Firearms Act;

(b) to verify the 5 million unverified firearms in the registry;

(c) to verify and correct the information in the 4 million records in the Firearms Interest Police database and to bring it into full compliance with the Privacy Act and the Charter of Rights and Freedoms;

(d) to register the ten million unregistered guns in Canada;

(e) to licence the half million unlicensed gun owners in Canada; and

(f) to the economy and jobs.

Debate arose thereon.

MOTIONS

By unanimous consent, it was ordered, — That, notwithstanding any Standing or Special Order or usual practice, immediately after the taking of the deferred recorded division on Ways and Means motion No. 6, a Minister of the Crown may proceed with the introduction and first reading of the bill based thereon.

Business of Supply

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton—Melville) , seconded by Mr. Grewal (Surrey Central) , in relation to the Business of Supply.

The debate continued.

Statements By Members

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

Oral Questions

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

DEFERRED RECORDED DIVISIONS

Business of Supply

Pursuant to Order made Monday, March 24, 2003, the House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Day (Okanagan—Coquihalla) , seconded by Mr. Benoit (Lakeland) , — That this House:

(1) endorse the decision of the Allied international coalition of military forces to enforce Iraq’s compliance with its international obligations under successive resolutions of the United Nations’ Security Council, with a view to restoring international peace and security in the Middle East region;

(2) express its unequivocal support for the Canadian service men and women, and other personnel serving in an exchange program with the United States and for those service men and women performing escort duties for British and United States’ ships, our full confidence in them and the hope that all will return safely to their homes;

(3) extend to the innocent people of Iraq its support and sympathy during the military action to disarm Iraq of its weapons of mass destruction and the reconstruction period that will follow; and

(4) urge the government to commit itself to help the Iraqi people, including through humanitarian assistance, to build a new Iraqat peace with itself and its neighbours.

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the amendment of Mr. Jaffer (Edmonton—Strathcona) , seconded by Mrs. Gallant (Renfrew—Nipissing—Pembroke) , — That the motion be amended by replacing the words “endorse the decision” with the words “recognize the legitimacy of the decision” and by inserting after the words “and security” the words “including justice”.

The question was put on the amendment and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division No. 63 -- Vote n^o 63)
YEAS: 60, NAYS: 181

YEAS -- POUR
Abbott Anders Anderson (Cypress Hills—Grasslands) Bailey Barnes (Gander—Grand Falls) Benoit Borotsik Breitkreuz Burton Chatters Clark Cummins Day Duncan Epp	Fitzpatrick Forseth Gallant Goldring Gouk Grewal Grey Hanger Harper Harris Hearn Herron Hill (Prince George--Peace River) Hill (Macleod) Hilstrom	Hinton Jaffer Johnston Keddy (South Shore) Kenney (Calgary Southeast) Lunn (Saanich—Gulf Islands) Lunney (Nanaimo—Alberni) Mayfield Meredith Merrifield Moore Obhrai Penson Rajotte Reid (Lanark—Carleton)	Reynolds Ritz Schmidt Skelton Solberg Sorenson Spencer Stinson Strahl Thompson (New Brunswick Southwest) Thompson (Wild Rose) Wayne White (North Vancouver) White (Langley--Abbotsford) Williams -- 60

NAYS -- CONTRE
Adams Allard Anderson (Victoria) Assad Asselin Augustine Bachand (Saint-Jean) Bakopanos Barnes (London West) Beaumier Bélair Bélanger Bellemare Bennett Bergeron Bevilacqua Bigras Binet Blondin-Andrew Bonwick Boudria Bourgeois Bradshaw Brown Bryden Bulte Byrne Calder Caplan Cardin Carignan Carroll Casey Castonguay Catterall Cauchon Chamberlain Charbonneau Chrétien Coderre Collenette Comuzzi Copps Crête Cullen Cuzner	Davies Desjarlais Desrochers DeVillers Dhaliwal Dion Doyle Dromisky Drouin Duceppe Duplain Easter Eggleton Elley Eyking Farrah Finlay Fournier Frulla Fry Gagnon (Québec) Gagnon (Champlain) Gagnon (Lac-Saint-Jean—Saguenay) Gaudet Gauthier Girard-Bujold Godfrey Godin Goodale Graham Grose Guay Guimond Harb Harvey Jackson Jennings Jordan Karygiannis Keyes Kilgour (Edmonton Southeast) Knutson Kraft Sloan Laframboise Lalonde	Lanctôt Lastewka LeBlanc Lee Leung Lill Lincoln Longfield MacAulay Macklin Malhi Manley Marceau Marcil Marleau Martin (LaSalle--Émard) Martin (Esquimalt--Juan de Fuca) Matthews McCallum McDonough McGuire McKay (Scarborough East) McLellan McTeague Ménard Mills (Toronto--Danforth) Mitchell Murphy Myers Nault Neville Normand Nystrom O'Brien (London--Fanshawe) O'Reilly Owen Pacetti Pagtakhan Paquette Paradis Parrish Patry Peric Perron Peschisolido	Peterson Pettigrew Phinney Picard (Drummond) Pillitteri Plamondon Proctor Proulx Provenzano Redman Reed (Halton) Regan Robillard Robinson Rocheleau Rock Roy Saada Sauvageau Savoy Scott Sgro Shepherd Simard St-Hilaire St-Jacques St-Julien St. Denis Steckle Stewart Stoffer Szabo Thibault (West Nova) Tirabassi Tonks Torsney Ur Valeri Vanclief Volpe Wappel Wasylycia-Leis Whelan Wilfert Wood -- 181

Pursuant to Standing Order 81(16), the House proceeded to the putting of the question on the main motion of Mr. Day (Okanagan—Coquihalla) , seconded by Mr. Benoit (Lakeland) .

The question was put on the main motion and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division No. 64 -- Vote n^o 64)
YEAS: 60, NAYS: 183

YEAS -- POUR
Abbott Anders Anderson (Cypress Hills—Grasslands) Bailey Barnes (Gander—Grand Falls) Benoit Borotsik Breitkreuz Burton Chatters Clark Cummins Day Duncan Epp	Fitzpatrick Forseth Gallant Goldring Gouk Grewal Grey Hanger Harper Harris Hearn Herron Hill (Prince George--Peace River) Hill (Macleod) Hilstrom	Hinton Jaffer Johnston Keddy (South Shore) Kenney (Calgary Southeast) Lunn (Saanich—Gulf Islands) Lunney (Nanaimo—Alberni) Mayfield Meredith Merrifield Moore Obhrai Penson Rajotte Reid (Lanark—Carleton)	Reynolds Ritz Schmidt Skelton Solberg Sorenson Spencer Stinson Strahl Thompson (New Brunswick Southwest) Thompson (Wild Rose) Wayne White (North Vancouver) White (Langley--Abbotsford) Williams -- 60

NAYS -- CONTRE
Adams Allard Anderson (Victoria) Assad Asselin Augustine Bachand (Saint-Jean) Bakopanos Barnes (London West) Beaumier Bélair Bélanger Bellemare Bennett Bergeron Bevilacqua Bigras Binet Blondin-Andrew Bonwick Boudria Bourgeois Bradshaw Brown Bryden Bulte Byrne Calder Cannis Caplan Cardin Carignan Carroll Casey Castonguay Catterall Cauchon Chamberlain Charbonneau Chrétien Coderre Collenette Comuzzi Copps Crête Cullen	Cuzner Davies Desjarlais Desrochers DeVillers Dhaliwal Dion Doyle Dromisky Drouin Duceppe Duplain Easter Eggleton Elley Eyking Farrah Finlay Fournier Frulla Fry Gagnon (Québec) Gagnon (Champlain) Gagnon (Lac-Saint-Jean—Saguenay) Gaudet Gauthier Girard-Bujold Godfrey Godin Goodale Graham Grose Guay Guimond Harb Harvey Jackson Jennings Jordan Karygiannis Keyes Kilgour (Edmonton Southeast) Knutson Kraft Sloan Laframboise Lalonde	Lanctôt Lastewka LeBlanc Lee Leung Lill Lincoln Longfield MacAulay Macklin Malhi Manley Marceau Marcil Marleau Martin (LaSalle--Émard) Martin (Esquimalt--Juan de Fuca) Matthews McCallum McDonough McGuire McKay (Scarborough East) McLellan McTeague Ménard Mills (Toronto--Danforth) Mitchell Murphy Myers Nault Neville Normand Nystrom O'Brien (London--Fanshawe) O'Reilly Owen Pacetti Pagtakhan Paquette Paradis Parrish Patry Peric Perron Peschisolido Peterson	Pettigrew Phinney Picard (Drummond) Pillitteri Plamondon Proctor Proulx Provenzano Redman Reed (Halton) Regan Robillard Robinson Rocheleau Rock Roy Saada Sauvageau Savoy Scott Sgro Shepherd Simard St-Hilaire St-Jacques St-Julien St. Denis Steckle Stewart Stoffer Szabo Thibault (West Nova) Thibeault (Saint-Lambert) Tirabassi Tonks Torsney Ur Valeri Vanclief Volpe Wappel Wasylycia-Leis Whelan Wilfert Wood -- 183

Ways and Means Proceedings

Pursuant to Order made Monday, March 24, 2003, the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the following motion, — That a Ways and Means motion to implement certain provisions of the Budget tabled in Parliament on February 18, 2003, be concurred in.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:

(Division No. 65 -- Vote n^o 65)
YEAS: 143, NAYS: 105

YEAS -- POUR
Adams Allard Anderson (Victoria) Assad Augustine Bakopanos Barnes (London West) Beaumier Bélair Bélanger Bellemare Bennett Bevilacqua Binet Blondin-Andrew Bonwick Boudria Bradshaw Brown Bryden Bulte Byrne Calder Cannis Caplan Carignan Carroll Castonguay Catterall Cauchon Chamberlain Charbonneau Chrétien Coderre Collenette Comuzzi	Copps Cotler Cullen Cuzner DeVillers Dhaliwal Dion Dromisky Drouin Duplain Easter Eggleton Eyking Farrah Finlay Frulla Fry Godfrey Goodale Graham Grose Guarnieri Harb Harvey Jackson Jennings Jordan Karygiannis Keyes Kilgour (Edmonton Southeast) Knutson Kraft Sloan Lastewka LeBlanc Lee Leung	Lincoln Longfield MacAulay Macklin Malhi Manley Marcil Marleau Martin (LaSalle--Émard) Matthews McCallum McGuire McKay (Scarborough East) McLellan McTeague Mills (Toronto--Danforth) Mitchell Murphy Myers Nault Neville Normand O'Brien (Labrador) O'Brien (London--Fanshawe) O'Reilly Owen Pacetti Pagtakhan Paradis Parrish Patry Peric Peschisolido Peterson Pettigrew Phinney	Pillitteri Pratt Price Proulx Provenzano Redman Reed (Halton) Regan Robillard Rock Saada Savoy Scott Sgro Shepherd Simard St-Jacques St-Julien St. Denis Steckle Stewart Szabo Thibault (West Nova) Thibeault (Saint-Lambert) Tirabassi Tonks Torsney Ur Valeri Vanclief Volpe Wappel Whelan Wilfert Wood -- 143

NAYS -- CONTRE
Abbott Anders Anderson (Cypress Hills—Grasslands) Asselin Bachand (Saint-Jean) Bailey Barnes (Gander—Grand Falls) Benoit Bergeron Bigras Borotsik Bourgeois Breitkreuz Burton Cardin Casey Chatters Clark Crête Cummins Davies Day Desjarlais Desrochers Doyle Duceppe Duncan	Elley Epp Fitzpatrick Forseth Fournier Gagnon (Champlain) Gagnon (Lac-Saint-Jean—Saguenay) Gagnon (Québec) Gallant Gaudet Gauthier Girard-Bujold Godin Goldring Gouk Grewal Grey Guay Guimond Hanger Harper Harris Hearn Herron Hill (Prince George--Peace River) Hill (Macleod)	Hilstrom Hinton Jaffer Johnston Keddy (South Shore) Kenney (Calgary Southeast) Laframboise Lalonde Lanctôt Lill Lunn (Saanich—Gulf Islands) Lunney (Nanaimo—Alberni) Marceau Martin (Esquimalt--Juan de Fuca) Mayfield McDonough Ménard Meredith Merrifield Moore Nystrom Obhrai Paquette Penson Perron Picard (Drummond)	Plamondon Proctor Rajotte Reid (Lanark—Carleton) Reynolds Ritz Robinson Rocheleau Roy Sauvageau Schmidt Skelton Solberg Sorenson Spencer St-Hilaire Stinson Stoffer Strahl Thompson (Wild Rose) Thompson (New Brunswick Southwest) Wasylycia-Leis Wayne White (Langley--Abbotsford) White (North Vancouver) Williams -- 105

INTRODUCTION OF GOVERNMENT BILLS

Pursuant to Order made earlier today and to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Manley (Minister of Finance) , seconded by Mr. Boudria (Minister of State and Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) , Bill C-28, An Act to implement certain provisions of the budget tabled in Parliament on February 18, 2003, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Recommendation
(Pursuant to Standing Order 79(2))

Her Excellency the Governor General recommends to the House of Commons the appropriation of public revenue under the circumstances, in the manner and for the purposes set out in a measure entitled “An Act to implement certain provisions of the budget tabled in Parliament on February 18, 2003”.

Business of Supply

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton—Melville) , seconded by Mr. Grewal (Surrey Central) , in relation to the Business of Supply.

The debate continued.

MOTIONS

By unanimous consent, it was ordered, — That, in relation to its study on the Atlantic fishery, a group comprised of the Chair, two government members and one member of each of the opposition parties of the Standing Committee on Fisheries and Oceans be authorized to travel to St. John's, Halifax, Moncton and Gaspé, from May 4 to 8, 2003, and that the necessary staff do accompany the Committee.

By unanimous consent, it was ordered, — That, in relation to its study on perscription drugs, a group comprised of five government members and one member of each of the opposition parties of the Standing Committee on Health be authorized to travel to Victoria, Edmonton and Winnipeg, during the week of September 29, 2003, and that the necessary staff do accompany the Committee.

By unanimous consent, it was ordered, — That, in relation to its study on perscription drugs, a group comprised of five government members and one member of each of the opposition parties of the Standing Committee on Health be authorized to travel to Halifax, Québec and Toronto, during the week of October 27, 2003, and that the necessary staff do accompany the Committee.

By unanimous consent, it was ordered, — That, at the conclusion of debate on Bill C-280, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (selling wildlife), all questions necessary to dispose of the second reading stage of the Bill be deemed put, and a recorded division deemed requested and deferred until Wednesday, March 26, 2003, at the expiry of the time provided for Government Orders.

Business of Supply

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton—Melville) , seconded by Mr. Grewal (Surrey Central) , in relation to the Business of Supply.

The debate continued.

At 5:46 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 81(17), the proceedings expired.

Mr. Mitchell (Secretary of State (Rural Development) (Federal Economic Development Initiative for Northern Ontario)) for Ms. Robillard (President of the Treasury Board) , seconded by Ms. Augustine (Secretary of State (Multiculturalism) (Status of Women)) , moved Motion No. 1, — That Vote 1b, in the amount of $68,457,029 under JUSTICE — Department — Operating Expenditures, in the Supplementary Estimates (B) for the fiscal year ending March 31, 2003, be concurred in.

The question was put on Motion No. 1 and it was agreed to on the following division:

(Division No. 66 -- Vote n^o 66)
YEAS: 173, NAYS: 76

YEAS -- POUR
Adams Alcock Allard Anderson (Victoria) Assad Augustine Bachand (Saint-Jean) Bakopanos Barnes (London West) Beaumier Bélair Bélanger Bellemare Bennett Bergeron Bertrand Bevilacqua Bigras Binet Blondin-Andrew Bonwick Boudria Bourgeois Bradshaw Brown Bryden Bulte Byrne Calder Cannis Caplan Cardin Carignan Carroll Castonguay Catterall Cauchon Chamberlain Charbonneau Chrétien Coderre Collenette Copps Cotler	Crête Cullen Cuzner Desrochers DeVillers Dhaliwal Dion Discepola Dromisky Drouin Duceppe Duplain Easter Eggleton Eyking Farrah Finlay Folco Fournier Frulla Fry Gagnon (Québec) Gagnon (Champlain) Gagnon (Lac-Saint-Jean—Saguenay) Gaudet Gauthier Godfrey Goodale Graham Grose Guarnieri Guay Guimond Harb Harvey Hubbard Jackson Jennings Jordan Karygiannis Keyes Kilger (Stormont--Dundas--Charlottenburgh) Kilgour (Edmonton Southeast)	Knutson Kraft Sloan Laframboise Lalonde Lanctôt Lastewka LeBlanc Lee Leung Lincoln Longfield MacAulay Macklin Malhi Manley Marceau Marcil Marleau Martin (LaSalle--Émard) Matthews McCallum McGuire McKay (Scarborough East) McLellan McTeague Ménard Mills (Toronto--Danforth) Minna Mitchell Murphy Myers Nault Neville Normand O'Brien (London--Fanshawe) O'Reilly Owen Pacetti Pagtakhan Paquette Paradis Parrish Patry	Peric Perron Peschisolido Peterson Pettigrew Phinney Picard (Drummond) Pillitteri Pratt Price Proulx Provenzano Redman Reed (Halton) Regan Robillard Rocheleau Rock Roy Saada Sauvageau Scott Sgro Shepherd Simard St-Hilaire St-Jacques St-Julien St. Denis Stewart Szabo Thibault (West Nova) Thibeault (Saint-Lambert) Tirabassi Tonks Torsney Valeri Vanclief Volpe Wappel Whelan Wilfert Wood -- 173

NAYS -- CONTRE
Abbott Anders Anderson (Cypress Hills—Grasslands) Bachand (Richmond--Arthabaska) Bailey Barnes (Gander—Grand Falls) Benoit Borotsik Breitkreuz Burton Casey Chatters Cummins Day Desjarlais Doyle Duncan Elley Epp	Fitzpatrick Forseth Gallant Godin Goldring Gouk Grewal Grey Hanger Harper Harris Hearn Herron Hill (Prince George--Peace River) Hill (Macleod) Hilstrom Hinton Jaffer Johnston	Keddy (South Shore) Kenney (Calgary Southeast) Lill Lunn (Saanich—Gulf Islands) Lunney (Nanaimo—Alberni) MacKay (Pictou—Antigonish—Guysborough) Martin (Esquimalt--Juan de Fuca) Mayfield McDonough Meredith Merrifield Moore Nystrom Obhrai Penson Proctor Rajotte Reid (Lanark—Carleton) Reynolds	Ritz Schmidt Skelton Solberg Sorenson Spencer Stinson Stoffer Strahl Thompson (New Brunswick Southwest) Thompson (Wild Rose) Toews Vellacott Venne Wasylycia-Leis Wayne White (North Vancouver) White (Langley--Abbotsford) Williams -- 76

PAIRED -- PAIRÉS
Asselin Bonin Caccia	Dalphond-Guiral Harvard Loubier	O'Brien (Labrador) Plamondon	Serré Tremblay

Ms. Robillard (President of the Treasury Board) , seconded by Mr. Boudria (Minister of State and Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) , moved Motion No. 2, — That Vote 5b, in the amount of $9,048,840 under JUSTICE — Department — Operating Expenditures, in the Supplementary Estimates (B) for the fiscal year ending March 31, 2003, be concurred in.

The question was put on Motion No. 2 and it was agreed to on the following division:

(Division No. 67 -- Vote n^o 67)
YEAS: 173, NAYS: 76

YEAS -- POUR
Adams Alcock Allard Anderson (Victoria) Assad Augustine Bachand (Saint-Jean) Bakopanos Barnes (London West) Beaumier Bélair Bélanger Bellemare Bennett Bergeron Bertrand Bevilacqua Bigras Binet Blondin-Andrew Bonwick Boudria Bourgeois Bradshaw Brown Bryden Bulte Byrne Calder Cannis Caplan Cardin Carignan Carroll Castonguay Catterall Cauchon Chamberlain Charbonneau Chrétien Coderre Collenette Copps Cotler	Crête Cullen Cuzner Desrochers DeVillers Dhaliwal Dion Discepola Dromisky Drouin Duceppe Duplain Easter Eggleton Eyking Farrah Finlay Folco Fournier Frulla Fry Gagnon (Québec) Gagnon (Champlain) Gagnon (Lac-Saint-Jean—Saguenay) Gaudet Gauthier Godfrey Goodale Graham Grose Guarnieri Guay Guimond Harb Harvey Hubbard Jackson Jennings Jordan Karygiannis Keyes Kilger (Stormont--Dundas--Charlottenburgh) Kilgour (Edmonton Southeast)	Knutson Kraft Sloan Laframboise Lalonde Lanctôt Lastewka LeBlanc Lee Leung Lincoln Longfield MacAulay Macklin Malhi Manley Marceau Marcil Marleau Martin (LaSalle--Émard) Matthews McCallum McGuire McKay (Scarborough East) McLellan McTeague Ménard Mills (Toronto--Danforth) Minna Mitchell Murphy Myers Nault Neville Normand O'Brien (London--Fanshawe) O'Reilly Owen Pacetti Pagtakhan Paquette Paradis Parrish Patry	Peric Perron Peschisolido Peterson Pettigrew Phinney Picard (Drummond) Pillitteri Pratt Price Proulx Provenzano Redman Reed (Halton) Regan Robillard Rocheleau Rock Roy Saada Sauvageau Scott Sgro Shepherd Simard St-Hilaire St-Jacques St-Julien St. Denis Stewart Szabo Thibault (West Nova) Thibeault (Saint-Lambert) Tirabassi Tonks Torsney Valeri Vanclief Volpe Wappel Whelan Wilfert Wood -- 173

NAYS -- CONTRE
Abbott Anders Anderson (Cypress Hills—Grasslands) Bachand (Richmond--Arthabaska) Bailey Barnes (Gander—Grand Falls) Benoit Borotsik Breitkreuz Burton Casey Chatters Cummins Day Desjarlais Doyle Duncan Elley Epp	Fitzpatrick Forseth Gallant Godin Goldring Gouk Grewal Grey Hanger Harper Harris Hearn Herron Hill (Prince George--Peace River) Hill (Macleod) Hilstrom Hinton Jaffer Johnston	Keddy (South Shore) Kenney (Calgary Southeast) Lill Lunn (Saanich—Gulf Islands) Lunney (Nanaimo—Alberni) MacKay (Pictou—Antigonish—Guysborough) Martin (Esquimalt--Juan de Fuca) Mayfield McDonough Meredith Merrifield Moore Nystrom Obhrai Penson Proctor Rajotte Reid (Lanark—Carleton) Reynolds	Ritz Schmidt Skelton Solberg Sorenson Spencer Stinson Stoffer Strahl Thompson (New Brunswick Southwest) Thompson (Wild Rose) Toews Vellacott Venne Wasylycia-Leis Wayne White (North Vancouver) White (Langley--Abbotsford) Williams -- 76

PAIRED -- PAIRÉS
Asselin Bonin Caccia	Dalphond-Guiral Harvard Loubier	O'Brien (Labrador) Plamondon	Serré Tremblay

Ms. Robillard (President of the Treasury Board) , seconded by Mr. Boudria (Minister of State and Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) , moved Motion No. 3, — That Vote 1b, in the amount of $639,000, under PARLIAMENT — Senate — Program expenditures, in the Supplementary Estimates (B) for the fiscal year ending March 31, 2003, be concurred in.

The question was put on Motion No. 3 and it was agreed to on the following division:

(Division No. 68 -- Vote n^o 68)
YEAS: 158, NAYS: 96

YEAS -- POUR
Adams Alcock Allard Anderson (Victoria) Augustine Bakopanos Barnes (London West) Barnes (Gander—Grand Falls) Beaumier Bélair Bélanger Bellemare Bennett Bertrand Bevilacqua Binet Blondin-Andrew Bonwick Borotsik Boudria Bradshaw Brown Bryden Bulte Byrne Calder Cannis Caplan Carignan Carroll Casey Castonguay Catterall Cauchon Chamberlain Charbonneau Chrétien Coderre Collenette Comuzzi	Copps Cotler Cullen Cuzner DeVillers Dhaliwal Dion Discepola Doyle Dromisky Drouin Duplain Easter Eggleton Eyking Farrah Finlay Folco Frulla Fry Godfrey Goodale Graham Grose Guarnieri Harb Harvey Hearn Herron Hubbard Jackson Jennings Jordan Karygiannis Keddy (South Shore) Keyes Kilger (Stormont--Dundas--Charlottenburgh) Kilgour (Edmonton Southeast) Knutson Kraft Sloan	Lastewka LeBlanc Lee Leung Lincoln Longfield MacAulay MacKay (Pictou—Antigonish—Guysborough) Macklin Malhi Manley Marcil Marleau Martin (LaSalle--Émard) Matthews McCallum McGuire McKay (Scarborough East) McLellan McTeague Mills (Toronto--Danforth) Minna Mitchell Murphy Myers Nault Neville Normand O'Brien (London--Fanshawe) O'Reilly Owen Pacetti Pagtakhan Paradis Parrish Patry Peric Peschisolido Peterson	Pettigrew Phinney Pillitteri Pratt Price Proulx Provenzano Redman Reed (Halton) Regan Robillard Rock Saada Savoy Scott Sgro Shepherd Simard St-Jacques St-Julien St. Denis Steckle Stewart Szabo Thibault (West Nova) Thibeault (Saint-Lambert) Thompson (New Brunswick Southwest) Tirabassi Tonks Torsney Ur Valeri Vanclief Volpe Wappel Wayne Whelan Wilfert Wood -- 158

NAYS -- CONTRE
Abbott Anders Anderson (Cypress Hills—Grasslands) Bachand (Saint-Jean) Bailey Benoit Bergeron Bigras Bourgeois Breitkreuz Burton Cardin Chatters Crête Cummins Davies Day Desjarlais Desrochers Duceppe Duncan Elley Epp Fitzpatrick	Forseth Fournier Gagnon (Champlain) Gagnon (Lac-Saint-Jean—Saguenay) Gagnon (Québec) Gallant Gaudet Gauthier Girard-Bujold Godin Goldring Gouk Grewal Grey Guay Guimond Hanger Harper Harris Hill (Prince George--Peace River) Hill (Macleod) Hilstrom Hinton Jaffer	Johnston Kenney (Calgary Southeast) Laframboise Lalonde Lanctôt Lill Lunn (Saanich—Gulf Islands) Lunney (Nanaimo—Alberni) Marceau Martin (Esquimalt--Juan de Fuca) Mayfield McDonough Ménard Meredith Merrifield Moore Nystrom Obhrai Paquette Penson Perron Picard (Drummond) Proctor Rajotte	Reid (Lanark—Carleton) Reynolds Ritz Robinson Rocheleau Roy Sauvageau Schmidt Skelton Solberg Sorenson Spencer St-Hilaire Stinson Stoffer Strahl Thompson (Wild Rose) Toews Vellacott Venne Wasylycia-Leis White (North Vancouver) White (Langley--Abbotsford) Williams -- 96

PAIRED -- PAIRÉS
Asselin Bonin Caccia	Dalphond-Guiral Harvard Loubier	O'Brien (Labrador) Plamondon	Serré Tremblay

Ms. Robillard (President of the Treasury Board) , seconded by Mr. Boudria (Minister of State and Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) , moved Motion No. 4, — That Vote 10b, in the amount of $161,288,697 under AGRICULTURE AND AGRI-FOOD — Department — Grants and contributions, in the Supplementary Estimates (B) for the fiscal year ending March 31, 2003, be concurred in.

The question was put on Motion No. 4 and it was agreed to on the following division:

(Division No. 69 -- Vote n^o 69)
YEAS: 158, NAYS: 96
(See list under Division No. 68)

Ms. Robillard (President of the Treasury Board) , seconded by Mr. Boudria (Minister of State and Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) , moved Motion No. 5, — That Vote 5b, in the amount of $45,754,538, under HUMAN RESOURCES DEVELOPMENT — Department — Grants and contributions, in the Supplementary Estimates (B) for the fiscal year ending March 31, 2003, be concurred in.

The question was put on Motion No. 5 and it was agreed to on the following division:

(Division No. 70 -- Vote n^o 70)
YEAS: 187, NAYS: 67

YEAS -- POUR
Adams Alcock Allard Anderson (Victoria) Augustine Bachand (Saint-Jean) Bakopanos Barnes (London West) Barnes (Gander—Grand Falls) Beaumier Bélair Bélanger Bellemare Bennett Bergeron Bertrand Bevilacqua Bigras Binet Blondin-Andrew Bonwick Borotsik Boudria Bourgeois Bradshaw Brown Bryden Bulte Byrne Calder Cannis Caplan Cardin Carignan Carroll Casey Castonguay Catterall Cauchon Chamberlain Charbonneau Chrétien Coderre Collenette Comuzzi Copps Cotler	Crête Cullen Cuzner Desrochers DeVillers Dhaliwal Dion Discepola Doyle Dromisky Drouin Duceppe Duplain Easter Eggleton Eyking Farrah Finlay Folco Fournier Frulla Fry Gagnon (Québec) Gagnon (Champlain) Gagnon (Lac-Saint-Jean—Saguenay) Gaudet Gauthier Girard-Bujold Godfrey Goodale Graham Grose Guarnieri Guay Guimond Harb Harvey Hearn Herron Hubbard Jackson Jennings Jordan Karygiannis Keddy (South Shore) Keyes Kilger (Stormont--Dundas--Charlottenburgh)	Kilgour (Edmonton Southeast) Knutson Kraft Sloan Laframboise Lalonde Lanctôt Lastewka LeBlanc Lee Leung Lincoln Longfield MacAulay MacKay (Pictou—Antigonish—Guysborough) Macklin Malhi Manley Marceau Marcil Marleau Martin (LaSalle--Émard) Matthews McCallum McGuire McKay (Scarborough East) McLellan McTeague Ménard Mills (Toronto--Danforth) Minna Mitchell Murphy Myers Nault Neville Normand O'Brien (London--Fanshawe) O'Reilly Owen Pacetti Pagtakhan Paquette Paradis Parrish Patry Peric Perron	Peschisolido Peterson Pettigrew Phinney Picard (Drummond) Pillitteri Pratt Price Proulx Provenzano Redman Reed (Halton) Regan Robillard Rocheleau Rock Roy Saada Sauvageau Savoy Scott Sgro Shepherd Simard St-Hilaire St-Jacques St-Julien St. Denis Steckle Stewart Szabo Thibault (West Nova) Thibeault (Saint-Lambert) Thompson (New Brunswick Southwest) Tirabassi Tonks Torsney Ur Valeri Vanclief Volpe Wappel Wayne Whelan Wilfert Wood -- 187

NAYS -- CONTRE
Abbott Anders Anderson (Cypress Hills—Grasslands) Bailey Benoit Breitkreuz Burton Chatters Cummins Davies Day Desjarlais Duncan Elley Epp Fitzpatrick Forseth	Gallant Godin Goldring Gouk Grewal Grey Hanger Harper Harris Hill (Macleod) Hill (Prince George--Peace River) Hilstrom Hinton Jaffer Johnston Kenney (Calgary Southeast) Lill	Lunn (Saanich—Gulf Islands) Lunney (Nanaimo—Alberni) Martin (Esquimalt--Juan de Fuca) Mayfield McDonough Meredith Merrifield Moore Nystrom Obhrai Penson Proctor Rajotte Reid (Lanark—Carleton) Reynolds Ritz Robinson	Schmidt Skelton Solberg Sorenson Spencer Stinson Stoffer Strahl Thompson (Wild Rose) Toews Vellacott Venne Wasylycia-Leis White (Langley--Abbotsford) White (North Vancouver) Williams -- 67

PAIRED -- PAIRÉS
Asselin Bonin Caccia	Dalphond-Guiral Harvard Loubier	O'Brien (Labrador) Plamondon	Serré Tremblay

Ms. Robillard (President of the Treasury Board) , seconded by Mr. Boudria (Minister of State and Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) , moved, — That the Supplementary Estimates (B) for the fiscal year ending March 31, 2003, except any Vote disposed of earlier today, be concurred in.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:

(Division No. 71 -- Vote n^o 71)
YEAS: 148, NAYS: 106

YEAS -- POUR
Adams Alcock Allard Anderson (Victoria) Augustine Bakopanos Barnes (London West) Beaumier Bélair Bélanger Bellemare Bennett Bertrand Bevilacqua Binet Blondin-Andrew Bonwick Boudria Bradshaw Brown Bryden Bulte Byrne Calder Cannis Caplan Carignan Carroll Castonguay Catterall Cauchon Chamberlain Charbonneau Chrétien Coderre Collenette Comuzzi	Copps Cotler Cullen Cuzner DeVillers Dhaliwal Dion Discepola Dromisky Drouin Duplain Easter Eggleton Eyking Farrah Finlay Folco Frulla Fry Godfrey Goodale Graham Grose Guarnieri Harb Harvey Hubbard Jackson Jennings Jordan Karygiannis Keyes Kilger (Stormont--Dundas--Charlottenburgh) Kilgour (Edmonton Southeast) Knutson Kraft Sloan Lastewka	LeBlanc Lee Leung Lincoln Longfield MacAulay Macklin Malhi Manley Marcil Marleau Martin (LaSalle--Émard) Matthews McCallum McGuire McKay (Scarborough East) McLellan McTeague Mills (Toronto--Danforth) Minna Mitchell Murphy Myers Nault Neville Normand O'Brien (London--Fanshawe) O'Reilly Owen Pacetti Pagtakhan Paradis Parrish Patry Peric Peschisolido Peterson	Pettigrew Phinney Pillitteri Pratt Price Proulx Provenzano Redman Reed (Halton) Regan Robillard Rock Saada Savoy Scott Sgro Shepherd Simard St-Jacques St-Julien St. Denis Steckle Stewart Szabo Thibault (West Nova) Thibeault (Saint-Lambert) Tirabassi Tonks Torsney Ur Valeri Vanclief Volpe Wappel Whelan Wilfert Wood -- 148

NAYS -- CONTRE
Abbott Anders Anderson (Cypress Hills—Grasslands) Bachand (Saint-Jean) Bailey Barnes (Gander—Grand Falls) Benoit Bergeron Bigras Borotsik Bourgeois Breitkreuz Burton Cardin Casey Chatters Crête Cummins Davies Day Desjarlais Desrochers Doyle Duceppe Duncan Elley Epp	Fitzpatrick Forseth Fournier Gagnon (Québec) Gagnon (Champlain) Gagnon (Lac-Saint-Jean—Saguenay) Gallant Gaudet Gauthier Girard-Bujold Godin Goldring Gouk Grewal Grey Guay Guimond Hanger Harper Harris Hearn Herron Hill (Macleod) Hill (Prince George--Peace River) Hilstrom Hinton Jaffer	Johnston Keddy (South Shore) Kenney (Calgary Southeast) Laframboise Lalonde Lanctôt Lill Lunn (Saanich—Gulf Islands) Lunney (Nanaimo—Alberni) MacKay (Pictou—Antigonish—Guysborough) Marceau Martin (Esquimalt--Juan de Fuca) Mayfield McDonough Ménard Meredith Merrifield Moore Nystrom Obhrai Paquette Penson Perron Picard (Drummond) Proctor Rajotte	Reid (Lanark—Carleton) Reynolds Ritz Robinson Rocheleau Roy Sauvageau Schmidt Skelton Solberg Sorenson Spencer St-Hilaire Stinson Stoffer Strahl Thompson (Wild Rose) Thompson (New Brunswick Southwest) Toews Vellacott Venne Wasylycia-Leis Wayne White (Langley--Abbotsford) White (North Vancouver) Williams -- 106

PAIRED -- PAIRÉS
Asselin Bonin Caccia	Dalphond-Guiral Harvard Loubier	O'Brien (Labrador) Plamondon	Serré Tremblay

Pursuant to Standing Orders 81(21) and 69(1), on motion of Ms. Robillard (President of the Treasury Board) , seconded by Mr. Boudria (Minister of State and Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) , Bill C-29, An Act for granting to Her Majesty certain sums of money for the public service of Canada for the financial year ending March 31, 2003, was read the first time and ordered to be printed.

Ms. Robillard (President of the Treasury Board) , seconded by Mr. Boudria (Minister of State and Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) , moved, — That the Bill be now read a second time and referred to a Committee of the Whole.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:

(Division No. 72 -- Vote n^o 72)
YEAS: 148, NAYS: 106
(See list under Division No. 71)

Accordingly, the Bill was read the second time and referred to a Committee of the Whole.

The Committee considered the Bill and reported it without amendment.

Pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(12), Ms. Robillard (President of the Treasury Board) , seconded by Mr. Boudria (Minister of State and Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) , moved, — That the Bill be concurred in at report stage.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:

(Division No. 73 -- Vote n^o 73)
YEAS: 148, NAYS: 106
(See list under Division No. 71)

Accordingly, the Bill was concurred in at report stage.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:

(Division No. 74 -- Vote n^o 74)
YEAS: 148, NAYS: 106
(See list under Division No. 71)

Accordingly, the Bill was read the third time and passed.

Ms. Robillard (President of the Treasury Board) , seconded by Mr. Boudria (Minister of State and Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) , moved, — That this House do concur in Interim Supply as follows:

That a sum not exceeding $17,783,880,759.74 being composed of:

(1) three twelfths ($10,548,447,650.75) of the total of the amounts of the items set forth in the Proposed Schedules 1 and Schedule 2 of the Main Estimates for the fiscal year ending March 31, 2004 which were laid upon the Table Wednesday, February 26, 2003, and except for those items below:

(2) eleven twelfths of the total of the amount of Public Works and Government Services Vote 25 and Treasury Board Vote 5 (Schedule 1.1), of the said Estimates, $735,964,166.67;

(3) nine twelfths of the total of the amount of National Defence Vote 10 and Parliament Vote 10 (Schedule 1.2) of the said Estimates, $296,713,500.00;

(4) eigth twelfths of the total of the amount of Industry Vote 70 (Schedule 1.3) of the said Estimates, $18,838,666.67;

(5) seven twelfths of the total of the amount of Canadian Heritage Vote 60, Human Resources Development Vote 20 and Indian Affairs and Northern Development Vote 10 (Schedule 1.4) of the said Estimates, $13,885,083.33;

(6) six twelfths of the total of the amount of Agriculture and Agri-Food Vote 35, Canadian Heritage Vote 15, Indian Affairs and Northern Development Vote 15, Natural Resources Vote 25 and Transport Vote 35 (Schedule 1.5) of the said Estimates, $2,373,236,000.00;

(7) five twelfths of the total of the amount of Canadian Heritage Vote 55, Environment Vote 15, Finance Vote 15, Indian Affairs and Northern Development Vote 30, Industry Vote 125, Justice Vote 1, Solicitor General Vote 5, and Transport Vote 20 (Schedule 1.6) of the said Estimates $1,116,155,833.33;

(8) four twelfths of the total of the amount of Canadian Heritage Votes 20, 40 and 125, Citizenship and Immigration Vote 5, Fisheries and Oceans Vote 10, Foreign Affairs and International Trade Vote 45, Health Vote 5, Human Resources Development Vote 5, Indian Affairs and Northern Development Vote 5, Industry Votes 5, 35, 40, 100 and 115, Public Works and Government Services Vote 1, Transport Votes 1, 25, 30 and 55 and Treasury Board Vote 2 (Schedule 1.7) of the said Estimates, $2,680,639,858.99;

be granted to Her Majesty on account of the fiscal year ending March 31, 2004.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:

(Division No. 75 -- Vote n^o 75)
YEAS: 146, NAYS: 105

YEAS -- POUR
Adams Alcock Allard Anderson (Victoria) Augustine Bakopanos Barnes (London West) Beaumier Bélair Bélanger Bellemare Bennett Bertrand Bevilacqua Binet Blondin-Andrew Bonwick Boudria Bradshaw Brown Bryden Bulte Byrne Calder Cannis Caplan Carignan Carroll Castonguay Catterall Cauchon Chamberlain Charbonneau Chrétien Coderre Collenette Comuzzi	Copps Cotler Cullen Cuzner DeVillers Dhaliwal Dion Dromisky Drouin Duplain Easter Eggleton Eyking Farrah Finlay Folco Frulla Fry Godfrey Goodale Graham Grose Guarnieri Harb Harvey Hubbard Jackson Jennings Jordan Karygiannis Keyes Kilgour (Edmonton Southeast) Knutson Kraft Sloan Lastewka LeBlanc Lee	Leung Lincoln Longfield MacAulay Macklin Malhi Manley Marcil Marleau Martin (LaSalle--Émard) Matthews McCallum McGuire McKay (Scarborough East) McLellan McTeague Mills (Toronto--Danforth) Minna Mitchell Murphy Myers Nault Neville Normand O'Brien (London--Fanshawe) O'Reilly Owen Pacetti Pagtakhan Paradis Parrish Patry Peric Peschisolido Peterson Pettigrew	Phinney Pillitteri Pratt Price Proulx Provenzano Redman Reed (Halton) Regan Robillard Rock Saada Savoy Scott Sgro Shepherd Simard St-Jacques St-Julien St. Denis Steckle Stewart Szabo Thibault (West Nova) Thibeault (Saint-Lambert) Tirabassi Tonks Torsney Ur Valeri Vanclief Volpe Wappel Whelan Wilfert Wood -- 146

NAYS -- CONTRE
Abbott Anders Anderson (Cypress Hills—Grasslands) Bachand (Saint-Jean) Bailey Barnes (Gander—Grand Falls) Benoit Bergeron Bigras Borotsik Bourgeois Breitkreuz Burton Cardin Casey Chatters Crête Cummins Davies Day Desjarlais Desrochers Doyle Duceppe Duncan Elley Epp	Fitzpatrick Forseth Fournier Gagnon (Champlain) Gagnon (Lac-Saint-Jean—Saguenay) Gagnon (Québec) Gallant Gaudet Gauthier Girard-Bujold Godin Goldring Gouk Grewal Grey Guay Guimond Hanger Harper Harris Hearn Herron Hill (Prince George--Peace River) Hill (Macleod) Hilstrom Hinton	Jaffer Johnston Keddy (South Shore) Kenney (Calgary Southeast) Laframboise Lalonde Lanctôt Lill Lunn (Saanich—Gulf Islands) Lunney (Nanaimo—Alberni) MacKay (Pictou—Antigonish—Guysborough) Marceau Martin (Esquimalt--Juan de Fuca) Mayfield McDonough Ménard Meredith Merrifield Moore Nystrom Obhrai Paquette Penson Perron Picard (Drummond) Proctor	Rajotte Reid (Lanark—Carleton) Reynolds Ritz Robinson Rocheleau Roy Sauvageau Schmidt Skelton Solberg Sorenson Spencer St-Hilaire Stinson Stoffer Strahl Thompson (Wild Rose) Thompson (New Brunswick Southwest) Toews Venne Wasylycia-Leis Wayne White (Langley--Abbotsford) White (North Vancouver) Williams -- 105

PAIRED -- PAIRÉS
Asselin Bonin Caccia	Dalphond-Guiral Harvard Loubier	O'Brien (Labrador) Plamondon	Serré Tremblay

Pursuant to Standing Orders 81(21) and 69(1), on motion of Ms. Robillard (President of the Treasury Board) , seconded by Mr. Boudria (Minister of State and Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) , Bill C-30, An Act for granting to Her Majesty certain sums of money for the public service of Canada for the financial year ending March 31, 2004, was read the first time and ordered to be printed.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:

(Division No. 76 -- Vote n^o 76)
YEAS: 146, NAYS: 105
(See list under Division No. 75)

Accordingly, the Bill was read the second time and referred to a Committee of the Whole.

The Committee considered the Bill and reported it without amendment.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:

(Division No. 77 -- Vote n^o 77)
YEAS: 146, NAYS: 105
(See list under Division No. 75)

Accordingly, the Bill was concurred in at report stage.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:

(Division No. 78 -- Vote n^o 78)
YEAS: 146, NAYS: 105
(See list under Division No. 75)

Accordingly, the Bill was read the third time and passed.

DEFERRED RECORDED DIVISIONS

Government Bills (Commons)

Pursuant to Standing Order 45, the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the motion of Mr. Collenette (Minister of Transport) , seconded by Mrs. Stewart (Minister of Human Resources Development) , — That Bill C-26, An Act to amend the Canada Transportation Act and the Railway Safety Act, to enact the VIA Rail Canada Act and to make consequential amendments to other Acts, be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Transport.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:

(Division No. 79 -- Vote n^o 79)
YEAS: 195, NAYS: 55

YEAS -- POUR
Adams Alcock Allard Anderson (Victoria) Augustine Bachand (Saint-Jean) Bakopanos Barnes (London West) Barnes (Gander—Grand Falls) Beaumier Bélair Bélanger Bellemare Bennett Bergeron Bertrand Bevilacqua Bigras Binet Blondin-Andrew Bonwick Borotsik Boudria Bourgeois Bradshaw Brown Bryden Bulte Byrne Calder Cannis Caplan Cardin Carignan Carroll Casey Castonguay Catterall Cauchon Chamberlain Charbonneau Chrétien Coderre Collenette Comuzzi Copps Cotler Crête Cullen	Cuzner Davies Desjarlais Desrochers DeVillers Dhaliwal Dion Discepola Doyle Dromisky Drouin Duceppe Duplain Easter Eggleton Eyking Farrah Finlay Folco Fournier Frulla Fry Gagnon (Québec) Gagnon (Champlain) Gagnon (Lac-Saint-Jean—Saguenay) Gaudet Gauthier Girard-Bujold Godfrey Godin Goodale Graham Grose Guarnieri Guay Guimond Harb Harvey Hearn Herron Hubbard Jackson Jennings Jordan Karygiannis Keddy (South Shore) Keyes Kilgour (Edmonton Southeast) Knutson	Kraft Sloan Laframboise Lalonde Lanctôt Lastewka LeBlanc Lee Leung Lill Lincoln Longfield MacAulay MacKay (Pictou—Antigonish—Guysborough) Macklin Malhi Manley Marceau Marcil Marleau Matthews McCallum McDonough McGuire McKay (Scarborough East) McLellan McTeague Ménard Mills (Toronto--Danforth) Minna Mitchell Murphy Myers Nault Neville Normand Nystrom O'Brien (London--Fanshawe) O'Reilly Owen Pacetti Pagtakhan Paquette Paradis Parrish Patry Peric Perron Peschisolido Peterson	Pettigrew Phinney Picard (Drummond) Pillitteri Pratt Price Proctor Proulx Provenzano Redman Reed (Halton) Regan Robillard Robinson Rocheleau Rock Roy Saada Sauvageau Savoy Scott Sgro Shepherd Simard St-Hilaire St-Jacques St-Julien St. Denis Steckle Stewart Stoffer Szabo Thibault (West Nova) Thibeault (Saint-Lambert) Thompson (New Brunswick Southwest) Tirabassi Tonks Torsney Ur Valeri Vanclief Volpe Wappel Wasylycia-Leis Wayne Whelan Wilfert Wood -- 195

NAYS -- CONTRE
Abbott Anders Anderson (Cypress Hills—Grasslands) Bailey Benoit Breitkreuz Burton Chatters Cummins Day Duncan Elley Epp Fitzpatrick	Forseth Gallant Goldring Gouk Grewal Grey Hanger Harper Harris Hill (Macleod) Hill (Prince George--Peace River) Hinton Jaffer Johnston	Kenney (Calgary Southeast) Lunn (Saanich—Gulf Islands) Lunney (Nanaimo—Alberni) Martin (Esquimalt--Juan de Fuca) Mayfield Meredith Merrifield Moore Obhrai Penson Rajotte Reid (Lanark—Carleton) Reynolds Ritz	Schmidt Skelton Solberg Sorenson Spencer Stinson Strahl Thompson (Wild Rose) Toews Venne White (Langley--Abbotsford) White (North Vancouver) Williams -- 55

PAIRED -- PAIRÉS
Asselin Bonin Caccia	Dalphond-Guiral Harvard Loubier	O'Brien (Labrador) Plamondon	Serré Tremblay

Accordingly, the Bill was read the second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Transport.

Pursuant to Standing Order 45, the House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Cauchon (Minister of Justice) , seconded by Mr. Thibault (Minister of Fisheries and Oceans) , — That Bill C-20, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (protection of children and other vulnerable persons) and the Canada Evidence Act, be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights.

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the amendment of Mr. Duncan (Vancouver Island North) , seconded by Mr. Stinson (Okanagan—Shuswap) , — That the motion be amended by deleting all the words after the word “That” and substituting the following:

“Bill C-20, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (protection of children and other vulnerable persons) and the Canada Evidence Act, be not now read a second time but that it be read a second time this day six months hence.”.

The question was put on the amendment and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division No. 80 -- Vote n^o 80)
YEAS: 55, NAYS: 195

YEAS -- POUR
Abbott Anders Anderson (Cypress Hills—Grasslands) Bailey Benoit Breitkreuz Burton Chatters Cummins Day Duncan Elley Epp Fitzpatrick	Forseth Gallant Goldring Gouk Grewal Grey Hanger Harper Harris Hill (Macleod) Hill (Prince George--Peace River) Hinton Jaffer Johnston	Kenney (Calgary Southeast) Lunn (Saanich—Gulf Islands) Lunney (Nanaimo—Alberni) Martin (Esquimalt--Juan de Fuca) Mayfield Meredith Merrifield Moore Obhrai Penson Rajotte Reid (Lanark—Carleton) Reynolds Ritz	Schmidt Skelton Solberg Sorenson Spencer Stinson Strahl Thompson (Wild Rose) Toews Venne White (Langley--Abbotsford) White (North Vancouver) Williams -- 55

NAYS -- CONTRE
Adams Alcock Allard Anderson (Victoria) Augustine Bachand (Saint-Jean) Bakopanos Barnes (Gander—Grand Falls) Barnes (London West) Beaumier Bélair Bélanger Bellemare Bennett Bergeron Bertrand Bevilacqua Bigras Binet Blondin-Andrew Bonwick Borotsik Boudria Bourgeois Bradshaw Brown Bryden Bulte Byrne Calder Cannis Caplan Cardin Carignan Carroll Casey Castonguay Catterall Cauchon Chamberlain Charbonneau Chrétien Coderre Collenette Comuzzi Copps Cotler Crête Cullen	Cuzner Davies Desjarlais Desrochers DeVillers Dhaliwal Dion Discepola Doyle Dromisky Drouin Duceppe Duplain Easter Eggleton Eyking Farrah Finlay Folco Fournier Frulla Fry Gagnon (Québec) Gagnon (Champlain) Gagnon (Lac-Saint-Jean—Saguenay) Gaudet Gauthier Girard-Bujold Godfrey Godin Goodale Graham Grose Guarnieri Guay Guimond Harb Harvey Hearn Herron Hubbard Jackson Jennings Jordan Karygiannis Keddy (South Shore) Keyes Kilgour (Edmonton Southeast) Knutson	Kraft Sloan Laframboise Lalonde Lanctôt Lastewka LeBlanc Lee Leung Lill Lincoln Longfield MacAulay MacKay (Pictou—Antigonish—Guysborough) Macklin Malhi Manley Marceau Marcil Marleau Matthews McCallum McDonough McGuire McKay (Scarborough East) McLellan McTeague Ménard Mills (Toronto--Danforth) Minna Mitchell Murphy Myers Nault Neville Normand Nystrom O'Brien (London--Fanshawe) O'Reilly Owen Pacetti Pagtakhan Paquette Paradis Parrish Patry Peric Perron Peschisolido Peterson	Pettigrew Phinney Picard (Drummond) Pillitteri Pratt Price Proctor Proulx Provenzano Redman Reed (Halton) Regan Robillard Robinson Rocheleau Rock Roy Saada Sauvageau Savoy Scott Sgro Shepherd Simard St-Hilaire St-Jacques St-Julien St. Denis Steckle Stewart Stoffer Szabo Thibault (West Nova) Thibeault (Saint-Lambert) Thompson (New Brunswick Southwest) Tirabassi Tonks Torsney Ur Valeri Vanclief Volpe Wappel Wasylycia-Leis Wayne Whelan Wilfert Wood -- 195

PAIRED -- PAIRÉS
Asselin Bonin Caccia	Dalphond-Guiral Harvard Loubier	O'Brien (Labrador) Plamondon	Serré Tremblay

Private Members’ Business

Pursuant to Order made Thursday, March 20, 2003, the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the motion of Mr. Stoffer (Sackville—Musquodoboit Valley—Eastern Shore) , seconded by Ms. Davies (Vancouver East) , — That Bill C-206, An Act to amend the Employment Insurance Act (persons who leave employment to be care-givers to family members), be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Human Resources Development and the Status of Persons with Disabilities.

The question was put on the motion and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division No. 81 -- Vote n^o 81)
YEAS: 86, NAYS: 130

YEAS -- POUR
Bachand (Saint-Jean) Barnes (Gander—Grand Falls) Bélair Bergeron Bigras Bonwick Borotsik Bourgeois Breitkreuz Bryden Cardin Casey Charbonneau Crête Davies Desjarlais Doyle Duceppe Duncan Epp Folco Fournier	Gagnon (Champlain) Gagnon (Lac-Saint-Jean—Saguenay) Gagnon (Québec) Gallant Gaudet Gauthier Girard-Bujold Godin Gouk Grewal Guay Guimond Harris Hearn Herron Hill (Prince George--Peace River) Hinton Jackson Jordan Keddy (South Shore) Kraft Sloan Laframboise	Lalonde Lanctôt Lill Lincoln MacKay (Pictou—Antigonish—Guysborough) Marceau Martin (Esquimalt--Juan de Fuca) Matthews Mayfield McDonough McGuire Ménard Meredith Mills (Toronto--Danforth) Nystrom O'Brien (London--Fanshawe) O'Reilly Obhrai Paquette Perron Phinney	Picard (Drummond) Pratt Price Proctor Robinson Rocheleau Roy Sauvageau Schmidt Scott Skelton St-Hilaire St-Julien Stinson Stoffer Thompson (Wild Rose) Thompson (New Brunswick Southwest) Tonks Venne Wasylycia-Leis Wayne -- 86

NAYS -- CONTRE
Abbott Adams Alcock Allard Anders Anderson (Cypress Hills—Grasslands) Anderson (Victoria) Augustine Bailey Beaumier Bélanger Bellemare Benoit Bevilacqua Binet Blondin-Andrew Boudria Bradshaw Brown Bulte Burton Byrne Calder Caplan Carignan Carroll Castonguay Catterall Cauchon Chamberlain Chatters Coderre Cullen	Cummins Cuzner Day DeVillers Dion Discepola Dromisky Drouin Duplain Easter Eggleton Elley Eyking Forseth Frulla Fry Goldring Goodale Graham Grey Grose Hanger Harb Harper Harvey Hill (Macleod) Hubbard Jaffer Jennings Johnston Karygiannis Kenney (Calgary Southeast) Keyes	Kilgour (Edmonton Southeast) Knutson Lastewka LeBlanc Lee Leung Lunn (Saanich—Gulf Islands) Lunney (Nanaimo—Alberni) Macklin Malhi Manley Marcil Marleau McCallum McLellan Merrifield Minna Mitchell Moore Murphy Myers Nault Neville Owen Pacetti Pagtakhan Paradis Patry Penson Peschisolido Pettigrew Pillitteri	Proulx Rajotte Redman Reed (Halton) Regan Reid (Lanark—Carleton) Reynolds Ritz Robillard Rock Savoy Shepherd Simard Solberg Sorenson Spencer St-Jacques St. Denis Steckle Stewart Strahl Szabo Thibault (West Nova) Tirabassi Toews Torsney Ur Valeri Vanclief Whelan White (Langley--Abbotsford) Williams -- 130

PAIRED -- PAIRÉS
Asselin Bonin Caccia	Dalphond-Guiral Harvard Loubier	O'Brien (Labrador) Plamondon	Serré Tremblay

Adjournment Proceedings

At 7:26 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 38(1), the question “That this House do now adjourn” was deemed to have been proposed.

After debate, the question was deemed to have been adopted.

Accordingly, at 7:35 p.m., the Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow at 2:00 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).