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40th PARLIAMENT, 1st SESSION

Journals

No. 5

Monday, November 24, 2008

11:00 a.m.



Prayers
Address in Reply to the Speech from the Throne

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Ms. Hoeppner (Portage—Lisgar), seconded by Mr. Dechert (Mississauga—Erindale), — That the following Address be presented to Her Excellency the Governor General of Canada:

To Her Excellency the Right Honourable Michaëlle Jean, Chancellor and Principal Companion of the Order of Canada, Chancellor and Commander of the Order of Military Merit, Chancellor and Commander of the Order of Merit of the Police Forces, Governor General and Commander-in-Chief of Canada.
MAY IT PLEASE YOUR EXCELLENCY:
We, Her Majesty's most loyal and dutiful subjects, the House of Commons of Canada, in Parliament assembled, beg leave to offer our humble thanks to Your Excellency for the gracious Speech which Your Excellency has addressed to both Houses of Parliament;
And of the amendment of Mr. Dion (Saint-Laurent—Cartierville), seconded by Mr. Brison (Kings—Hants), — That the motion be amended by adding the following:
“and we urge Your Excellency’s advisors to respect the results of the election in which more than 60 percent of voters supported Members of Parliament in the opposition;
to bear in mind that people express their wishes as much through the opposition as through the government;
to recognize that Canadians rightfully expect the House of Commons they just elected to function in a less partisan, more constructive and collaborative manner, with the first responsibility for setting a better tone being that of the government which requires the government to be more forthcoming than it has been up to now; and
to that end, given the crucial nature of the up-coming economic and fiscal update, to provide representatives of opposition parties with a detailed briefing by appropriate senior officials at least three hours in advance of the public presentation of the update, so all Members of Parliament can be properly equipped to deal with the serious economic difficulties confronting Canadians”;
And of the subamendment of Mr. Duceppe (Laurier—Sainte-Marie), seconded by Mr. Paquette (Joliette), — That the amendment be amended by adding after the words “in the opposition” the following:
“and that the House recognize that the Speech from the Throne is unanimously decried in Quebec because it reflects a Conservative ideology that was rejected by 78 percent of the Quebec nation on October 14 and that as a result the House denounce the fact that it does not respond to the consensus in Quebec respecting, for instance, the legislation on young offenders, the repatriation to Quebec of powers over culture and communications, the elimination of the federal spending power and the maintenance of the existing system of securities regulation”.

The debate continued.

Statements By Members

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

Oral Questions

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

Daily Routine Of Business

Tabling of Documents

Pursuant to Standing Order 79(3), the Speaker read the following Message from Her Excellency the Governor General, presented by Mr. Toews (President of the Treasury Board):

Message on Estimates
Her Excellency the Governor General transmits to the House of Commons the Supplementary Estimates (B) of sums required to defray expenses for the public service of Canada in the fiscal year ending on March 31, 2009, and in accordance with section 54 of the Constitution Act, 1867, recommends these Estimates to the House of Commons.

Mr. Toews (President of the Treasury Board) laid upon the Table, — Document entitled "Supplementary Estimates (B), 2008-09". — Sessional Paper No. 8520-401-1.

Pursuant to Standing Order 81(5), the Supplementary Estimates (B) for the fiscal year ending March 31, 2009, were deemed referred to the several Standing Committees of the House as follows:

(1) to the Standing Committee on Aboriginal Affairs and Northern Development

Indian Affairs and Northern Development, Votes 1b, 7b, 10b, 15b, 20b, 25b, L30b, 47b and 50b

(2) to the Standing Committee on Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics

Justice, Vote 45b

(3) to the Standing Committee on Agriculture and Agri-Food

Agriculture and Agri-Food, Votes 1b, 5b, 10b and 30b

(4) to the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage

Canadian Heritage, Votes 1b, 5b, 10b, 15b, 27b, 30b, 35b, 45b, 50b, 55b, 65b, 75b and 110b

(5) to the Standing Committee on Citizenship and Immigration

Citizenship and Immigration, Vote 1b

(6) to the Standing Committee on Environment and Sustainable Development

Environment, Votes 1b, 5b, 10b, 25b and 30b

(7) to the Standing Committee on Finance

Canada Revenue Agency, Vote 1b

Finance, Votes 1b and 5b

(8) to the Standing Committee on Fisheries and Oceans

Fisheries and Oceans, Votes 1b, 5b and 10b

(9) to the Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs and International Development

Foreign Affairs and International Trade, Votes 1b, 5b, 10b, 11b, 12b, 25b, 35b and 40b

(10) to the Standing Committee on Government Operations and Estimates

Canadian Heritage, Votes 80b and 85b

Privy Council, Vote 1b

Public Works and Government Services, Votes 1b and 5b

Treasury Board, Votes 1b, 15b, 20b, 30b and 50b

(11) to the Standing Committee on Health

Health, Votes 1b, 5b, 20b, 25b, 35b, 40b and 45b

(12) to the Standing Committee on Human Resources, Social Development and the Status of Persons with Disabilities

Human Resources and Skills Development, Votes 1b, 5b and 15b

(13) to the Standing Committee on Industry, Science and Technology

Atlantic Canada Opportunities Agency, Votes 1b and 5b

Economic Development Agency of Canada for the Regions of Quebec, Votes 1b and 5b

Industry, Votes 1b, 5b, 10b, 35b, 45b, 55b, 60b, 65b, 70b, 75b, 80b and 85b

Western Economic Diversification, Votes 1b and 5b

(14) to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights

Justice, Votes 1b, 5b and 30b

(15) to the Standing Committee on National Defence

National Defence, Votes 1b and 20b

(16) to the Standing Committee on Natural Resources

Natural Resources, Votes 1b, 5b, 15b and 25b

(17) to the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs

Parliament, Vote 5b

(18) to the Standing Committee on Public Safety and National Security

Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness, Votes 1b, 5b, 10b, 15b, 20b, 30b, 40b, 50b, 55b and 60b

(19) to the Standing Committee on Status of Women

Canadian Heritage, Vote 105b

(20) to the Standing Committee on Transport, Infrastructure and Communities

Transport, Votes 1b, 5b, 10b, 20b, 30b, 35b, 40b, 45b, 55b and 70b

(21) to the Standing Committee on Veterans Affairs

Veterans Affairs, Votes 1b and 10b


The Speaker laid upon the Table, — Reports of the Auditor General of Canada for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2008, pursuant to the Access to Information Act and to the Privacy Act, R.S. 1985, c. A-1 and P-21, sbs. 72(2). — Sessional Paper No. 8561-401-627-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights)

Introduction of Private Members' Bills

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Ms. Charlton (Hamilton Mountain), seconded by Mr. Gravelle (Nickel Belt), Bill C-227, An Act to amend the Income Tax Act (travel and accommodation deduction for tradespersons), was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.


Presenting Petitions

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were presented as follows:

— by Ms. Sgro (York West), one concerning the situation in Sudan (No. 401-0006);
— by Mr. Allen (Tobique—Mactaquac), one concerning the sexual exploitation of minors (No. 401-0007);
— by Mr. Bélanger (Ottawa—Vanier), one concerning the National Capital Commission (No. 401-0008);
— by Ms. Mathyssen (London—Fanshawe), one concerning federal programs (No. 401-0009), one concerning health care services (No. 401-0010) and one concerning the situation in Sudan (No. 401-0011);
— by Mrs. Smith (Kildonan—St. Paul), one concerning the Canadian Human Rights Act (No. 401-0012);
— by Mr. Bagnell (Yukon), one concerning the situation in Sudan (No. 401-0013) and one concerning Tibet (No. 401-0014);
— by Mr. Warawa (Langley), one concerning the criminal justice system (No. 401-0015).
Address in Reply to the Speech from the Throne

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Ms. Hoeppner (Portage—Lisgar), seconded by Mr. Dechert (Mississauga—Erindale), in relation to the Address in Reply to the Speech from the Throne;

And of the subamendment of Mr. Duceppe (Laurier—Sainte-Marie), seconded by Mr. Paquette (Joliette).

The debate continued.

At 6:15 p.m., pursuant to Order made Thursday, November 20, 2008, the Speaker interrupted the proceedings.

The question was put on the subamendment and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division No. 1 -- Vote no 1)
YEAS: 48, NAYS: 238

YEAS -- POUR

André
Asselin
Bachand
Beaudin
Bellavance
Bigras
Blais
Bonsant
Bouchard
Bourgeois
Brunelle
Cardin

Carrier
Crête
DeBellefeuille
Demers
Deschamps
Desnoyers
Dorion
Duceppe
Dufour
Faille
Freeman
Gagnon

Gaudet
Guay
Guimond (Rimouski-Neigette—Témiscouata—Les Basques)
Guimond (Montmorency—Charlevoix—Haute-Côte-Nord)
Laforest
Laframboise
Lavallée
Lemay
Lessard
Lévesque
Malo
Ménard (Hochelaga)

Ménard (Marc-Aurèle-Fortin)
Mourani
Nadeau
Ouellet
Paillé
Paquette
Plamondon
Pomerleau
Roy
St-Cyr
Thi Lac
Vincent

Total: -- 48

NAYS -- CONTRE

Abbott
Ablonczy
Aglukkaq
Albrecht
Allen (Welland)
Allen (Tobique—Mactaquac)
Allison
Ambrose
Anders
Anderson
Andrews
Angus
Ashfield
Ashton
Bagnell
Bains
Baird
Bélanger
Bennett
Benoit
Bernier
Bevington
Bezan
Black
Blackburn
Blaney
Block
Boucher
Boughen
Braid
Breitkreuz
Brison
Brown (Leeds—Grenville)
Brown (Newmarket—Aurora)
Brown (Barrie)
Byrne
Cadman
Calandra
Calkins
Cannan (Kelowna—Lake Country)
Cannon (Pontiac)
Carrie
Casson
Charlton
Chong
Chow
Christopherson
Clarke
Clement
Coady
Coderre
Comartin
Crombie
Crowder
Cullen
Cummins
Cuzner
Davidson
Davies (Vancouver Kingsway)
Davies (Vancouver East)

Day
Dechert
Del Mastro
Devolin
Dewar
Dhaliwal
Dion
Dosanjh
Dreeshen
Dryden
Duncan (Vancouver Island North)
Duncan (Edmonton—Strathcona)
Dykstra
Easter
Eyking
Fast
Finley
Flaherty
Fletcher
Foote
Fry
Galipeau
Gallant
Garneau
Glover
Godin
Goldring
Goodale
Goodyear
Gourde
Gravelle
Grewal
Guergis
Hall Findlay
Harper
Harris (St. John's East)
Harris (Cariboo—Prince George)
Hawn
Hiebert
Hill
Hoback
Hoeppner
Holder
Holland
Hughes
Hyer
Ignatieff
Jean
Jennings
Julian
Kamp (Pitt Meadows—Maple Ridge—Mission)
Kania
Karygiannis
Keddy (South Shore—St. Margaret's)
Kennedy
Kenney (Calgary Southeast)
Kent
Kerr
Komarnicki
Kramp (Prince Edward—Hastings)

Lake
Lauzon
Layton
Lebel
Lee
Lemieux
Leslie
Lobb
Lukiwski
Lunn
Lunney
MacAulay
MacKay (Central Nova)
MacKenzie
Malhi
Maloway
Mark
Marston
Martin (Sault Ste. Marie)
Masse
Mathyssen
Mayes
McCallum
McColeman
McGuinty
McKay (Scarborough—Guildwood)
McLeod
Mendes
Menzies
Merrifield
Miller
Minna
Moore (Port Moody—Westwood—Port Coquitlam)
Moore (Fundy Royal)
Mulcair
Murphy (Charlottetown)
Murray
Neville
Nicholson
Norlock
O'Connor
O'Neill-Gordon
Obhrai
Oda
Oliphant
Paradis
Patry
Payne
Pearson
Petit
Poilievre
Prentice
Preston
Proulx
Rae
Rafferty
Raitt
Rajotte
Ratansi
Rathgeber

Regan
Reid
Richards
Rickford
Ritz
Rodriguez
Rota
Russell
Savage
Savoie
Saxton
Scheer
Schellenberger
Sgro
Shea
Shipley
Shory
Siksay
Silva
Simms
Simson
Smith
Sorenson
Stanton
Stoffer
Storseth
Strahl
Sweet
Szabo
Thibeault
Thompson
Tilson
Toews
Tonks
Trost
Trudeau
Tweed
Uppal
Valeriote
Van Kesteren
Van Loan
Vellacott
Verner
Volpe
Wallace
Warawa
Warkentin
Wasylycia-Leis
Watson
Weston (West Vancouver—Sunshine Coast—Sea to Sky Country)
Weston (Saint John)
Wilfert
Wong
Woodworth
Wrzesnewskyj
Yelich
Young
Zarac

Total: -- 238

PAIRED -- PAIRÉS

Bruinooge

Lalonde

Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(1), papers deposited with the Clerk of the House were laid upon the Table as follows:

— by Mr. Hill (Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) — Orders in Council approving certain appointments made by the Governor General in Council, pursuant to Standing Order 110(1), as follows:
— P.C. 2008-1465. — Sessional Paper No. 8540-401-1-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Aboriginal Affairs and Northern Development)
— P.C. 2008-1429 to P.C. 2008-1431. — Sessional Paper No. 8540-401-2-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Agriculture and Agri-Food)
— P.C. 2008-1467 to P.C. 2008-1470, P.C. 2008-1496 to P.C. 2008-1503, P.C. 2008-1520, P.C. 2008-1583 and P.C. 2008-1585. — Sessional Paper No. 8540-401-3-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage)
— P.C. 2008-1393, P.C. 2008-1409 to P.C. 2008-1416 and P.C. 2008-1543 to P.C. 2008-1546. — Sessional Paper No. 8540-401-14-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Citizenship and Immigration)
— P.C. 2008-1421, P.C. 2008-1516, P.C. 2008-1517 and P.C. 2008-1547 to P.C. 2008-1549. — Sessional Paper No. 8540-401-9-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Finance)
— P.C. 2008-1552 to P.C. 2008-1554. — Sessional Paper No. 8540-401-10-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Fisheries and Oceans)
— P.C. 2008-1331, P.C. 2008-1406 to P.C. 2008-1408, P.C. 2008-1492, P.C. 2008-1511, P.C. 2008-1512, P.C. 2008-1541 and P.C. 2008-1542. — Sessional Paper No. 8540-401-8-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs and International Development)
— P.C. 2008-1403 and P.C. 2008-1471. — Sessional Paper No. 8540-401-4-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Government Operations and Estimates)
— P.C. 2008-1400 to P.C. 2008-1402, P.C. 2008-1487 and P.C. 2008-1534. — Sessional Paper No. 8540-401-18-07. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Health)
— P.C. 2008-1329, P.C. 2008-1394, P.C. 2008-1432 to 2008-1464, P.C. 2008-1521, P.C. 2008-1556 to P.C. 2008-1566 and P.C. 2008-1568 to P.C. 2008-1582. — Sessional Paper No. 8540-401-16-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Human Resources, Social Development and the Status of Persons with Disabilities)
— P.C. 2008-1322, P.C. 2008-1422 to P.C. 2008-1428 and P.C. 2008-1510. — Sessional Paper No. 8540-401-22-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Industry, Science and Technology)
— P.C. 2008-1550 and P.C. 2008-1551. — Sessional Paper No. 8540-401-28-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on International Trade)
— P.C. 2008-1420. — Sessional Paper No. 8540-401-13-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights)
— P.C. 2008-1417 to P.C. 2008-1419, P.C. 2008-1555 and P.C. 2008-1685. — Sessional Paper No. 8540-401-29-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Natural Resources)
— P.C. 2008-1404, P.C. 2008-1405, P.C. 2008-1514, P.C. 2008-1515 and P.C. 2008-1535 to P.C. 2008-1540. — Sessional Paper No. 8540-401-30-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Public Safety and National Security)
— P.C. 2008-1395 to P.C. 2008-1399, P.C. 2008-1493, P.C. 2008-1522 to P.C. 2008-1533 and P.C. 2008-1686. — Sessional Paper No. 8540-401-24-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Transport, Infrastructure and Communities)
— P.C. 2008-1466. — Sessional Paper No. 8540-401-32-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Veterans Affairs)
Adjournment

At 6:46 p.m., the Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow at 10:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).