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44th PARLIAMENT, 1st SESSION | |
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JournalsNo. 361 Tuesday, October 29, 2024 10:00 a.m. |
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Prayer |
Daily Routine Of Business |
Tabling of Documents |
Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Sidhu (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Export Promotion, International Trade and Economic Development) laid before the House, — Copy of the Decision No. 1/2024 of the Joint Committee established by the Agreement between Canada and the European Community on Trade in Wines and Spirit Drinks of 4 April 2024 amending Annexes I, III(A), III(B), IV(A) and VI of the Agreement between Canada and the European Community on Trade in Wines and Spirit Drinks, adopted at Ottawa and Brussels on April 4, 2024, and Explanatory Memorandum. — Sessional Paper No. 8532-441-57. |
Motions |
Mr. Waugh (Saskatoon—Grasswood), seconded by Mr. Kurek (Battle River—Crowfoot), moved, — That the eighth report of the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage, presented on Tuesday, December 12, 2023, be concurred in. (Concurrence in Committee Reports No. 68) |
Debate arose thereon. |
Mr. Lamoureux (Winnipeg North), seconded by Ms. Sgro (Humber River—Black Creek), moved the following amendment, — That the motion be amended by deleting all the words after the word “That” and substituting the following: |
“the eighth report of the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage, presented on Tuesday, December 12, 2023, be not now concurred in, but that it be recommitted to the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage for further consideration, provided that it be an instruction to the committee to study the consequences of defunding the CBC and Radio-Canada, including the effects on smaller communities, as promised by the Leader of the Official Opposition.”.
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Debate arose thereon. |
At 12:05 p.m., the sitting was suspended. |
At 12:16 p.m., the sitting resumed. |
The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Waugh (Saskatoon—Grasswood), seconded by Mr. Kurek (Battle River—Crowfoot), — That the eighth report of the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage, presented on Tuesday, December 12, 2023, be concurred in; (Concurrence in Committee Reports No. 68) |
And of the amendment of Mr. Lamoureux (Winnipeg North), seconded by Ms. Sgro (Humber River—Black Creek), — That the motion be amended by deleting all the words after the word “That” and substituting the following: |
“the eighth report of the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage, presented on Tuesday, December 12, 2023, be not now concurred in, but that it be recommitted to the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage for further consideration, provided that it be an instruction to the committee to study the consequences of defunding the CBC and Radio-Canada, including the effects on smaller communities, as promised by the Leader of the Official Opposition.”.
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The debate continued. |
Tabling of Documents |
Ms. Ien (Minister for Women and Gender Equality and Youth) laid before the House, — Notice of a ways and means motion to introduce a bill to amend the Income Tax Act and the Income Tax Regulations. (Ways and Means No. 27) — Sessional Paper No. 8570-441-27. |
Pursuant to Standing Order 83(2), at the request of Ms. Ien (Minister for Women and Gender Equality and Youth), an order of the day was designated for the consideration of this ways and means motion. |
Daily Routine Of Business |
Motions |
The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Waugh (Saskatoon—Grasswood), seconded by Mr. Kurek (Battle River—Crowfoot), — That the eighth report of the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage, presented on Tuesday, December 12, 2023, be concurred in; (Concurrence in Committee Reports No. 68) |
And of the amendment of Mr. Lamoureux (Winnipeg North), seconded by Ms. Sgro (Humber River—Black Creek), — That the motion be amended by deleting all the words after the word “That” and substituting the following: |
“the eighth report of the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage, presented on Tuesday, December 12, 2023, be not now concurred in, but that it be recommitted to the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage for further consideration, provided that it be an instruction to the committee to study the consequences of defunding the CBC and Radio-Canada, including the effects on smaller communities, as promised by the Leader of the Official Opposition.”.
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The debate continued. |
Mr. Seeback (Dufferin—Caledon), seconded by Mr. Kurek (Battle River—Crowfoot), moved the following subamendment, — That the amendment be amended: |
(a) by adding, immediately after the word "including" the following: "how the Liberal threat to cut funding led to hundreds of CBC-Radio-Canada job cuts and"; and
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(b) by adding, at the end, the following: ", provided that it be a further instruction to the committee: (a) that it report its findings to the House no later than Tuesday, December 17, 2024; (b) that, during this study, the following witnesses be ordered to appear for no less than two hours each: (i) Catherine Tait, (ii) Marie-Philippe Bouchard; (c) that the Minister of Canadian Heritage be ordered to appear for at least one hour; and (d) that, in addition to the witnesses mentioned in paragraph (b), it hear at least three hours of additional expert testimony.".
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At 1:14 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 66(2), the Speaker interrupted the proceedings. |
The question was put on the subamendment and, pursuant to Standing Order 45, the recorded division was deferred until later today, at the expiry of the time provided for Oral Questions. |
Presenting Petitions |
Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified by the Clerk of Petitions were presented as follows: |
— by Ms. Dabrusin (Toronto—Danforth), one concerning animals (No. 441-02768); |
— by Mr. Viersen (Peace River—Westlock), one concerning civil and human rights (No. 441-02769); |
— by Mr. Johns (Courtenay—Alberni), one concerning public safety (No. 441-02770); |
— by Ms. May (Saanich—Gulf Islands), one concerning health (No. 441-02771); |
— by Mr. Caputo (Kamloops—Thompson—Cariboo), one concerning civil and human rights (No. 441-02772) and one concerning social affairs and equality (No. 441-02773); |
— by Ms. Barron (Nanaimo—Ladysmith), one concerning employment and labour (No. 441-02774); |
— by Ms. Lewis (Haldimand—Norfolk), one concerning civil and human rights (No. 441-02775); |
— by Mr. Genuis (Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan), one concerning parliament and politics (No. 441-02776), one concerning civil and human rights (No. 441-02777), one concerning social affairs and equality (No. 441-02778) and two concerning foreign affairs (Nos. 441-02779 and 441-02780). |
Question of Privilege |
The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Scheer (Regina—Qu'Appelle), seconded by Mr. Berthold (Mégantic—L'Érable), — That the government's failure of fully providing documents, as ordered by the House on June 10, 2024, be hereby referred to the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs; |
And of the amendment of Mr. Berthold (Mégantic—L'Érable), seconded by Mr. Perkins (South Shore—St. Margarets), — That the motion be amended by adding the following: |
“provided that it be an instruction to the committee:
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(a) that the following witnesses be ordered to appear before the committee, separately, for two hours each:
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(i) the Minister of Innovation, Science and Industry,
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(ii) the Clerk of the Privy Council,
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(iii) the Auditor General of Canada,
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(iv) the Commissioner of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police,
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(v) the Deputy Minister of Innovation, Science and Economic Development Canada,
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(vi) the Law Clerk and Parliamentary Counsel of the House of Commons,
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(vii) the Acting President of Sustainable Development Technology Canada,
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(viii) a panel consisting of the Board of Sustainable Development Technology Canada; and
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(b) that it report back to the House no later than Friday, November 22, 2024.”;
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And of the subamendment of Mr. Muys (Flamborough—Glanbrook), seconded by Mr. Scheer (Regina—Qu'Appelle), — That the amendment be amended by adding, after subparagraph (a)(ii), the following: |
"(iii) the Privacy Commissioner of Canada, who respected the order of the House and deposited unredacted documents,
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(iv) Paul MacKinnon, the former Deputy Secretary to the Cabinet (Governance),".
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The debate continued. |
Statements By Members |
Pursuant to Standing Order 31, members made statements. |
Oral Questions |
Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions. |
Deferred Recorded Divisions |
Concurrence in Committee Reports |
Pursuant to Standing Order 45, the House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Waugh (Saskatoon—Grasswood), seconded by Mr. Kurek (Battle River—Crowfoot), — That the eighth report of the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage, presented on Tuesday, December 12, 2023, be concurred in; (Concurrence in Committee Reports No. 68) |
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And of the amendment of Mr. Lamoureux (Winnipeg North), seconded by Ms. Sgro (Humber River—Black Creek), — That the motion be amended by deleting all the words after the word “That” and substituting the following: |
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“the eighth report of the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage, presented on Tuesday, December 12, 2023, be not now concurred in, but that it be recommitted to the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage for further consideration, provided that it be an instruction to the committee to study the consequences of defunding the CBC and Radio-Canada, including the effects on smaller communities, as promised by the Leader of the Official Opposition.”;
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The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the subamendment of Mr. Seeback (Dufferin—Caledon), seconded by Mr. Kurek (Battle River—Crowfoot), — That the amendment be amended: |
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(a) by adding, immediately after the word "including" the following: "how the Liberal threat to cut funding led to hundreds of CBC-Radio-Canada job cuts and"; and
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(b) by adding, at the end, the following: ", provided that it be a further instruction to the committee: (a) that it report its findings to the House no later than Tuesday, December 17, 2024; (b) that, during this study, the following witnesses be ordered to appear for no less than two hours each: (i) Catherine Tait, (ii) Marie-Philippe Bouchard; (c) that the Minister of Canadian Heritage be ordered to appear for at least one hour; and (d) that, in addition to the witnesses mentioned in paragraph (b), it hear at least three hours of additional expert testimony.".
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The question was put on the subamendment and it was agreed to on the following division: |
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(Division No. 871 -- Vote no 871) | |
YEAS: 178, NAYS: 152 |
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YEAS -- POUR Aboultaif Desbiens Lake Roberts Total: -- 178 |
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NAYS -- CONTRE Alghabra Dubourg Kusmierczyk Qualtrough Total: -- 152 |
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PAIRED -- PAIRÉS Nil--Aucun |
Pursuant to Standing Order 66(2), the House proceeded to the putting of the question on the amendment, as amended, of Mr. Lamoureux (Winnipeg North), seconded by Ms. Sgro (Humber River—Black Creek), — That the motion be amended by deleting all the words after the word “That” and substituting the following: |
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“the eighth report of the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage, presented on Tuesday, December 12, 2023, be not now concurred in, but that it be recommitted to the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage for further consideration, provided that it be an instruction to the committee to study the consequences of defunding the CBC and Radio-Canada, including how the Liberal threat to cut funding led to hundreds of CBC-Radio-Canada job cuts and the effects on smaller communities, as promised by the Leader of the Official Opposition, provided that it be a further instruction to the committee:
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(a) that it report its findings to the House no later than Tuesday, December 17, 2024;
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(b) that, during this study, the following witnesses be ordered to appear for no less than two hours each: (i) Catherine Tait, (ii) Marie-Philippe Bouchard;
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(c) that the Minister of Canadian Heritage be ordered to appear for at least one hour; and
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(d) that, in addition to the witnesses mentioned in paragraph (b), it hear at least three hours of additional expert testimony.”.
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The question was put on the amendment, as amended, and it was agreed to on the following division: |
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(Division No. 872 -- Vote no 872) | |
YEAS: 177, NAYS: 151 |
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YEAS -- POUR Aboultaif d'Entremont Kusie Rempel Garner Total: -- 177 |
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NAYS -- CONTRE Alghabra Duclos Lalonde Robillard Total: -- 151 |
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PAIRED -- PAIRÉS Nil--Aucun |
Pursuant to Standing Order 66(2), the House proceeded to the putting of the question on the main motion, as amended, of Mr. Waugh (Saskatoon—Grasswood), seconded by Mr. Kurek (Battle River—Crowfoot), — That the eighth report of the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage, presented on Tuesday, December 12, 2023, be not now concurred in, but that it be recommitted to the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage for further consideration, provided that it be an instruction to the committee to study the consequences of defunding the CBC and Radio-Canada, including how the Liberal threat to cut funding led to hundreds of CBC-Radio-Canada job cuts and the effects on smaller communities, as promised by the Leader of the Official Opposition, provided that it be a further instruction to the committee: (a) that it report its findings to the House no later than Tuesday, December 17, 2024; (b) that, during this study, the following witnesses be ordered to appear for no less than two hours each: (i) Catherine Tait, (ii) Marie-Philippe Bouchard; (c) that the Minister of Canadian Heritage be ordered to appear for at least one hour; and (d) that, in addition to the witnesses mentioned in paragraph (b), it hear at least three hours of additional expert testimony. |
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The question was put on the main motion, as amended, and it was agreed to on the following division: |
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(Division No. 873 -- Vote no 873) | |
YEAS: 177, NAYS: 151 (See list under Division No. 872) |
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Accordingly, the report was referred back to the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage. |
Question of Privilege |
The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Scheer (Regina—Qu'Appelle), seconded by Mr. Berthold (Mégantic—L'Érable); |
And of the amendment of Mr. Berthold (Mégantic—L'Érable), seconded by Mr. Perkins (South Shore—St. Margarets); |
And of the subamendment of Mr. Muys (Flamborough—Glanbrook), seconded by Mr. Scheer (Regina—Qu'Appelle). |
The debate continued. |
Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House |
Pursuant to Standing Order 32(1), papers deposited with the Clerk of the House were laid before the House as follows: |
— by Mr. Duclos (Minister of Public Services and Procurement) — Summaries of the Corporate Plans for 2023-2024 to 2027-2028 and 2024-25 to 2028-29 of the National Capital Commission, pursuant to the Financial Administration Act, R.S., 1985, c. F-11, sbs. 125(4). — Sessional Paper No. 8562-441-821-03. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Government Operations and Estimates) |
— by Mr. LeBlanc (Minister of Public Safety, Democratic Institutions and Intergovernmental Affairs) — Report of the Office of the Correctional Investigator of Canada for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2024, pursuant to the Corrections and Conditional Release Act, S.C. 1992, c. 20, s. 192. — Sessional Paper No. 8560-441-72-04. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Public Safety and National Security) |
Adjournment Proceedings |
At 6:46 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 38(1), the question “That this House do now adjourn” was deemed to have been proposed. |
After debate, the question was deemed to have been adopted. |
Accordingly, at 7:15 p.m., the Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow at 2:00 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1). |