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44th PARLIAMENT, 1st SESSION | |
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JournalsNo. 368 Thursday, November 7, 2024 10:00 a.m. |
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Prayer |
Daily Routine Of Business |
Tabling of Documents |
The Speaker laid before the House, — Reports of the Commissioner of the Environment and Sustainable Development to the House of Commons (Fall 2024), pursuant to the Auditor General Act, R.S., 1985, c. A-17, sbs. 23(5). — Sessional Paper No. 8560-441-521-05. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Environment and Sustainable Development) |
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Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Lamoureux (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid before the House, — Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to the following petitions: |
— No. 441-02630 concerning social affairs and equality. |
Statements by Ministers |
Pursuant to Standing Order 33(1), Mr. Vandal (Minister of Northern Affairs, Minister responsible for Prairies Economic Development Canada and Minister responsible for the Canadian Northern Economic Development Agency) made a statement. |
Presenting Reports from Committees |
Mr. Ehsassi (Willowdale), from the Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs and International Development, presented the 28th report of the committee, "A New Era of Partnerships: Canada's Engagement with Africa". — Sessional Paper No. 8510-441-505. |
Pursuant to Standing Order 109, the committee requested that the government table a comprehensive response. |
A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings (Meetings Nos. 101 to 104, 107 to 110 and 119 to 122) was tabled. |
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Mr. Brassard (Barrie—Innisfil), from the Standing Committee on Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics, presented the 14th report of the committee, "Certificate of Nomination of Caroline Maynard to the Position of Information Commissioner". — Sessional Paper No. 8510-441-506. |
A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings (Meeting No. 138) was tabled. |
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Mr. Brassard (Barrie—Innisfil), from the Standing Committee on Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics, presented the 15th report of the committee, "Certificate of Nomination of Nancy Bélanger to the Position of Commissioner of Lobbying". — Sessional Paper No. 8510-441-507. |
A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings (Meeting No. 138) was tabled. |
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Mr. McKinnon (Coquitlam—Port Coquitlam), from the Standing Committee on Public Safety and National Security, presented the 14th report of the committee, "Question of Privilege Concerning the Refusal to Respond to Questions by Ms. Lauren Chen". — Sessional Paper No. 8510-441-508. |
A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings (Meetings Nos. 123 and 128) was tabled. |
Motions |
Ms. Rempel Garner (Calgary Nose Hill), seconded by Mr. Chambers (Simcoe North), moved, — That the 20th report of the Standing Committee on Industry and Technology, presented on Friday, November 1, 2024, be concurred in. (Concurrence in Committee Reports No. 73) |
Debate arose thereon. |
Mr. Chambers (Simcoe North), seconded by Mr. Perkins (South Shore—St. Margarets), moved the following amendment, — That the motion be amended by deleting all the words after the word “That” and substituting the following: |
“the 20th report of the Standing Committee on Industry and Technology, presented on Friday, November 1, 2024, be not now concurred in, but that it be recommitted to the committee for further consideration, provided that, for the purposes of this study:
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(a) the following be ordered to appear as witnesses, for at least two hours each, at dates and times to be fixed by the Chair of the committee but no later than Tuesday, December 17, 2024,
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(i) the Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Finance,
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(ii) the Minister of Innovation, Science and Industry,
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(iii) Shereen Benzvy Miller, Commissioner of the Financial Consumer Agency of Canada,
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(iv) Matthew Boswell, the Commissioner of Competition,
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(v) Jeremy Wilmot, the President and Chief Executive Officer of Interac Corp.,
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(vi) a panel consisting of Patrick Collison, co-founder and Chief Executive Officer of Stripe, and John Collison, co-founder and President of Stripe; and
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(b) it be an instruction that the committee hold at least two other meetings to receive evidence from stakeholders and experts.”.
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Debate arose thereon. |
At 1:30 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 66(2), the Speaker interrupted the proceedings. |
The question was put on the amendment and, pursuant to Standing Order 45, the recorded division was deferred until later today, at the expiry of the time provided for Oral Questions. |
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By unanimous consent, it was ordered, — That, in accordance with subsection 4.1(1) of the Lobbying Act, R.S.C., 1985, c. 44 (4th Supp.), and pursuant to Standing Order 111.1(2), the House approve the reappointment of Nancy Bélanger as Commissioner of Lobbying, for a term of seven years. |
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By unanimous consent, it was ordered, — That, in accordance with subsection 54(1) of the Access to Information Act, R.S.C., 1985, c. A-1, and pursuant to Standing Order 111.1(2), the House approve the reappointment of Caroline Maynard as Information Commissioner, for a term of seven years. |
Presenting Petitions |
Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified by the Clerk of Petitions were presented as follows: |
— by Mr. Epp (Chatham-Kent—Leamington), one concerning foreign affairs (No. 441-02850); |
— by Mr. Genuis (Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan), one concerning civil and human rights (No. 441-02851) and two concerning foreign affairs (Nos. 441-02852 and 441-02853). |
Question of Privilege |
The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Scheer (Regina—Qu'Appelle), seconded by Mr. Berthold (Mégantic—L'Érable), — That the government's failure of fully providing documents, as ordered by the House on June 10, 2024, be hereby referred to the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs; |
And of the amendment, as amended, of Mr. Berthold (Mégantic—L'Érable), seconded by Mr. Perkins (South Shore—St. Margarets), — That the motion be amended by adding the following: |
“provided that it be an instruction to the committee:
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(a) that the following witnesses be ordered to appear before the committee, separately, for two hours each:
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(i) the Minister of Innovation, Science and Industry,
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(ii) the Clerk of the Privy Council,
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(iii) the Privacy Commissioner of Canada, who respected the order of the House and deposited unredacted documents,
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(iv) Paul MacKinnon, the former Deputy Secretary to the Cabinet (Governance),
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(v) the Auditor General of Canada,
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(vi) the Commissioner of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police,
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(vii) the Deputy Minister of Innovation, Science and Economic Development Canada,
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(viii) the Law Clerk and Parliamentary Counsel of the House of Commons,
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(ix) the Acting President of Sustainable Development Technology Canada,
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(x) a panel consisting of the Board of Sustainable Development Technology Canada; and
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(b) that it report back to the House no later than Friday, November 22, 2024.”;
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And of the subamendment of Mr. Kmiec (Calgary Shepard), seconded by Mr. Maguire (Brandon—Souris), — That the amendment be amended by replacing the words “Friday, November 22, 2024” with the following: |
“the 30th sitting day following the adoption of this order”.
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The debate continued. |
Statements By Members |
Pursuant to Standing Order 31, members made statements. |
Oral Questions |
Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions. |
Deferred Recorded Divisions |
Concurrence in Committee Reports |
Pursuant to Standing Order 45, the House resumed consideration of the motion of Ms. Rempel Garner (Calgary Nose Hill), seconded by Mr. Chambers (Simcoe North), — That the 20th report of the Standing Committee on Industry and Technology, presented on Friday, November 1, 2024, be concurred in; (Concurrence in Committee Reports No. 73) |
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The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the amendment of Mr. Chambers (Simcoe North), seconded by Mr. Perkins (South Shore—St. Margarets), — That the motion be amended by deleting all the words after the word “That” and substituting the following: |
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“the 20th report of the Standing Committee on Industry and Technology, presented on Friday, November 1, 2024, be not now concurred in, but that it be recommitted to the committee for further consideration, provided that, for the purposes of this study:
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(a) the following be ordered to appear as witnesses, for at least two hours each, at dates and times to be fixed by the Chair of the committee but no later than Tuesday, December 17, 2024,
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(i) the Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Finance,
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(ii) the Minister of Innovation, Science and Industry,
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(iii) Shereen Benzvy Miller, Commissioner of the Financial Consumer Agency of Canada,
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(iv) Matthew Boswell, the Commissioner of Competition,
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(v) Jeremy Wilmot, the President and Chief Executive Officer of Interac Corp.,
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(vi) a panel consisting of Patrick Collison, co-founder and Chief Executive Officer of Stripe, and John Collison, co-founder and President of Stripe; and
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(b) it be an instruction that the committee hold at least two other meetings to receive evidence from stakeholders and experts.”.
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The question was put on the amendment and it was agreed to on the following division: |
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(Division No. 880 -- Vote no 880) | |
YEAS: 174, NAYS: 146 |
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YEAS -- POUR Aboultaif Desilets Larouche Rood Total: -- 174 |
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NAYS -- CONTRE Alghabra Duclos Lalonde Rodriguez Total: -- 146 |
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PAIRED -- PAIRÉS Duncan (Etobicoke North) Gaudreau Kitchen Mendès Total: -- 4 |
Pursuant to Standing Order 66(2), the House proceeded to the putting of the question on the main motion, as amended, of Ms. Rempel Garner (Calgary Nose Hill), seconded by Mr. Chambers (Simcoe North), — That the 20th report of the Standing Committee on Industry and Technology, presented on Friday, November 1, 2024, be not now concurred in, but that it be recommitted to the committee for further consideration, provided that, for the purposes of this study: (a) the following be ordered to appear as witnesses, for at least two hours each, at dates and times to be fixed by the Chair of the committee but no later than Tuesday, December 17, 2024, (i) the Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Finance, (ii) the Minister of Innovation, Science and Industry, (iii) Shereen Benzvy Miller, Commissioner of the Financial Consumer Agency of Canada, (iv) Matthew Boswell, the Commissioner of Competition, (v) Jeremy Wilmot, the President and Chief Executive Officer of Interac Corp., (vi) a panel consisting of Patrick Collison, co-founder and Chief Executive Officer of Stripe, and John Collison, co-founder and President of Stripe; and (b) it be an instruction that the committee hold at least two other meetings to receive evidence from stakeholders and experts. |
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The question was put on the main motion, as amended, and it was agreed to on the following division: |
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(Division No. 881 -- Vote no 881) | |
YEAS: 173, NAYS: 147 |
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YEAS -- POUR Aboultaif Desbiens Lake Rempel Garner Total: -- 173 |
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NAYS -- CONTRE Alghabra Dubourg Kusmierczyk Robillard Total: -- 147 |
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PAIRED -- PAIRÉS Duncan (Etobicoke North) Gaudreau Kitchen Mendès Total: -- 4 |
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Accordingly, the report was referred back to the Standing Committee on Industry and Technology. |
Motions |
Question of Privilege |
The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Scheer (Regina—Qu'Appelle), seconded by Mr. Berthold (Mégantic—L'Érable); |
And of the amendment, as amended, of Mr. Berthold (Mégantic—L'Érable), seconded by Mr. Perkins (South Shore—St. Margarets); |
And of the subamendment of Mr. Kmiec (Calgary Shepard), seconded by Mr. Maguire (Brandon—Souris). |
The debate continued. |
Motions |
Question of Privilege |
The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Scheer (Regina—Qu'Appelle), seconded by Mr. Berthold (Mégantic—L'Érable); |
And of the amendment, as amended, of Mr. Berthold (Mégantic—L'Érable), seconded by Mr. Perkins (South Shore—St. Margarets); |
And of the subamendment of Mr. Kmiec (Calgary Shepard), seconded by Mr. Maguire (Brandon—Souris). |
The debate continued. |
Royal Assent |
A message was received informing the Commons that on November 7, 2024, at 5:06 p.m., Her Excellency the Governor General signified royal assent by written declaration to the following bills: |
Bill C-244, An Act to amend the Copyright Act (diagnosis, maintenance and repair) — Chapter No. 26;
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Bill C-294, An Act to amend the Copyright Act (interoperability) — Chapter No. 27;
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Bill C-284, An Act to establish a national strategy for eye care — Chapter No. 28;
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Question of Privilege |
The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Scheer (Regina—Qu'Appelle), seconded by Mr. Berthold (Mégantic—L'Érable); |
And of the amendment, as amended, of Mr. Berthold (Mégantic—L'Érable), seconded by Mr. Perkins (South Shore—St. Margarets); |
And of the subamendment of Mr. Kmiec (Calgary Shepard), seconded by Mr. Maguire (Brandon—Souris). |
The debate continued. |
Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House |
Pursuant to Standing Order 32(1), papers deposited with the Clerk of the House were laid before the House as follows: |
— by the Speaker — Minutes of Proceedings of the Board of Internal Economy of the House of Commons for October 10, 2024, pursuant to Standing Order 148(1). — Sessional Paper No. 8527-441-54. |
— by the Speaker — Additional costing note from the Parliamentary Budget Officer on the Budget 2024, pursuant to the Parliament of Canada Act, R.S., 1985, c. P-1, sbs. 79.2(2). — Sessional Paper No. 8560-441-1119-133. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Finance) |
— by Ms. Freeland (Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Finance) — List of outstanding specific legislative proposals to amend listed tax laws announced prior to April 1, 2023, pursuant to the Financial Administration Act, R.S., 1985, c. F-11, sbs. 162(2). — Sessional Paper No. 8560-441-1078-03. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Finance) |
— by Mr. Holland (Minister of Health) — Service Fees Report of the Canadian Food Inspection Agency for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2024, pursuant to the Service Fees Act S.C. 2017, c. 20, s. 451 “20(1)”. — Sessional Paper No. 8560-441-1185-04. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Health) |
— by Mr. Holland (Minister of Health) — Service Fees Report of the Department of Health for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2024, pursuant to the Service Fees Act S.C. 2017, c. 20, s. 451 “20(1)”. — Sessional Paper No. 8560-441-1187-04. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Health) |
— by Mr. Holland (Minister of Health) — Service Fees Report of the Public Health Agency of Canada for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2024, pursuant to the Service Fees Act S.C. 2017, c. 20, s. 451 “20(1)”. — Sessional Paper No. 8560-441-1191-04. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Health) |
— by Mr. MacAulay (Minister of Agriculture and Agri-Food) — Service Fees Report of the Department of Agriculture and Agri-Food for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2024, pursuant to the Service Fees Act S.C. 2017, c. 20, s. 451 “20(1)”. — Sessional Paper No. 8560-441-1189-04. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Agriculture and Agri-Food) |
— by Mr. MacAulay (Minister of Agriculture and Agri-Food) — Service Fees Report of the Canadian Grain Commission for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2024, pursuant to the Service Fees Act S.C. 2017, c. 20, s. 451 “20(1)”. — Sessional Paper No. 8560-441-1190-04. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Agriculture and Agri-Food) |
— by Mrs. St-Onge (Minister of Canadian Heritage) — Service Fees Report of the National Film Board for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2024, pursuant to the Service Fees Act S.C. 2017, c. 20, s. 451 “20(1)”. — Sessional Paper No. 8560-441-1206-04. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage) |
— by Mrs. St-Onge (Minister of Canadian Heritage) — Service Fees Report of the National Battlefields Commission for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2024, pursuant to the Service Fees Act S.C. 2017, c. 20, s. 451 “20(1)”. — Sessional Paper No. 8560-441-1208-04. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage) |
— by Mrs. St-Onge (Minister of Canadian Heritage) — Service Fees Report of the Library and Archives of Canada for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2024, pursuant to the Service Fees Act S.C. 2017, c. 20, s. 451 “20(1)”. — Sessional Paper No. 8560-441-1209-04. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage) |
— by Mrs. St-Onge (Minister of Canadian Heritage) — Service Fees Report of the Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2024, pursuant to the Service Fees Act S.C. 2017, c. 20, s. 451 “20(1)”. — Sessional Paper No. 8560-441-1213-04. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage) |
Adjournment Proceedings |
At 7:20 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 38(1), the question “That this House do now adjourn” was deemed to have been proposed. |
After debate, the question was deemed to have been adopted. |
Accordingly, at 7:30 p.m., the Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow at 10:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1). |