PRAYERS

DAILY ROUTINE OF BUSINESS

Tabling of Documents

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mrs. Stewart (Minister of the Environment) laid upon the Table, -- Ministerial Guideline on the Procedures for an Assessment by a Review Panel. -- Sessional Paper No. 8525-361-3.

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Adams (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to the following petitions:

-- Nos. 361-0101, 361-0106 and 361-0107 concerning taxes on books. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-361-3B;

-- No. 361-0110 concerning the Canada Pension Plan. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-361-5A;

-- No. 361-0112 concerning the income tax system. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-361-10A.

Introduction of Private Members' Bills

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Nystrom (Qu'Appelle), seconded by Mr. Blaikie (Winnipeg Transcona), Bill C-287, An Act to provide for the study of proportional representation in federal elections and a national referendum on the recommendations that result from the study, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Gallaway (Sarnia -- Lambton), seconded by Mrs. Ur (Lambton -- Kent -- Middlesex), Bill C-288, An Act to amend the Broadcasting Act (broadcasting policy), was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Ménard (Hochelaga -- Maisonneuve), seconded by Mr. Lefebvre (Champlain), Bill C-289, An Act to amend the Bank Act and the Statistics Act (equity in community reinvestment), was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Presenting Petitions

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were presented as follows:

-- by Mr. Thompson (Wild Rose), one concerning parental rights (No. 361-0243);

-- by Mr. Blaikie (Winnipeg Transcona), one concerning the highway system (No. 361-0244).

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The Order was read for the consideration of the Business of Supply.

Mr. Jaffer (Edmonton -- Strathcona), seconded by Mr. Mark (Dauphin -- Swan River), moved, -- That this House recognize that strengthening the unity of Canada is its highest priority and given that nine provincial premiers and two territorial leaders have begun a process of consultation on national unity built on the Calgary Declaration, this House:

1. endorses the efforts of the premiers, the territorial leaders and grass-roots Canadians to foster national unity;

2. declares its support for the consultation process begun by the premiers and territorial leaders;

3. urges Canadians to become involved in the consulatation process and in particular to express their approval of, disapproval of, or suggested improvements to such principles as the equality of citizens and provinces, respect for diversity including the unique character of Quebec society, and the need for re-balancing the powers of the provincial and federal governments;

4. urges the Government of Canada and Members of this House to communicate with Quebecers regarding the Calgary Declaration, and to consult the people of Quebec on its contents;

5. and regrets that the separatist government of Quebec has chosen not to participate in the discussion on national unity, and has refused to include Quebecers in the consultation on the Calgary Declaration.

Debate arose thereon.

Mr. Goldring (Edmonton East), seconded by Mr. Mark (Dauphin -- Swan River), moved the following amendment, -- That the motion be amended by inserting immediately after the words "equality of citizens and provinces" the following:

"and special status for none"

Debate arose thereon.

STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

ORAL QUESTIONS

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Jaffer (Edmonton -- Strathcona), seconded by Mr. Mark (Dauphin -- Swan River), in relation to the Business of Supply;

And of the amendment of Mr. Goldring (Edmonton East), seconded by Mr. Mark (Dauphin -- Swan River).

The debate continued.

MOTIONS

By unanimous consent, it was ordered, -- That, notwithstanding any Standing Order, at the time of adjournment on Wednesday, November 26, 1997 there shall be no proceedings pursuant to Standing Order 38, but, at that time, a motion to adjourn shall be deemed to have been proposed and the said motion shall be debatable, that during the said debate no member except for the first spokesperson for each party, the Prime Minister or the Leader of the Opposition shall speak for more than ten minutes, with a five minute question and comment period, and that during the said debate no dilatory motion or quorum call shall be received, and that, when no Member rises to speak, the motion shall be deemed to have been adopted.

By unanimous consent, it was ordered, -- That the First Report of the Standing Joint Committee on Official Languages, the First Report of the Standing Joint Committee on the Scrutiny of Regulations and the First Report of the Standing Joint Committee on the Library of Parliament be concurred in.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Jaffer (Edmonton -- Strathcona), seconded by Mr. Mark (Dauphin -- Swan River), in relation to the Business of Supply;

And of the amendment of Mr. Goldring (Edmonton East), seconded by Mr. Mark (Dauphin -- Swan River).

The debate continued.

At 5:24 p.m., pursuant to order made Tuesday, September 23, 1997, the Speaker interrupted the proceedings.

The question was put on the amendment and it was agreed to on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 27)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Adams -- Alcock -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bailey -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Benoit -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Breitkreuz --  (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Cadman -- Calder -- Cannis -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Casson -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Chatters -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Cullen -- Cummins -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Duhamel -- Eggleton -- Epp -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Forseth -- Gagliano -- Gallaway -- Gilmour -- Godfrey -- Goldring -- Goodale -- Gouk -- Graham -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Guarnieri -- Hanger -- Harb -- Harris -- Hart -- Harvard -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hilstrom -- Hoeppner -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jaffer -- Jennings -- Johnston -- Jordan -- Karygiannis -- Kenney --  (Calgary-Sud-Est) -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Konrad -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lavigne -- Lee -- Leung -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- Lowther -- MacAulay -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Manning -- Marchi -- Mark -- Marleau -- Martin --  (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- Mayfield -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Morrison -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Normand -- Obhrai -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Pankiw -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Penson -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Pickard --  (Kent -- Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Provenzano -- Ramsay -- Redman -- Reed -- Richardson -- Ritz -- Robillard -- Rock -- Saada -- Schmidt -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- Stinson -- St-Julien -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Thompson --  (Wild Rose) -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Wappel -- Whelan -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- White --  (North Vancouver) -- Wilfert -- Williams -- 190

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Alarie -- Asselin -- Axworthy --  (Saskatoon -- Rosetown -- Biggar) -- Bachand --  (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Bellehumeur -- Bergeron -- Bernier --  (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Bigras -- Blaikie -- Borotsik -- Brien -- Canuel -- Casey -- Charest -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Crête -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Davies -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desjarlais -- Desrochers -- Dockrill -- Doyle -- Dubé --  (Lévis) -- Dubé --  (Madawaska -- Restigouche) -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Fournier -- Gagnon -- Gauthier -- Girard-Bujold -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Guay -- Guimond -- Harvey -- Herron -- Jones -- Keddy --  (South Shore) -- Laliberte -- Lalonde -- Lefebvre -- Lill -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Mancini -- Marceau -- Marchand -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- McDonough -- Ménard -- Muise -- Nunziata -- Nystrom -- Perron -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Price -- Proctor -- Robinson -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Solomon -- St-Hilaire -- St-Jacques -- Thompson --  (Charlotte) -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Turp -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Wayne -- 71

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Baker -- Bernier --  (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Easter -- Grose -- Laurin -- Loubier -- Mercier -- Volpe

Pursant to Standing Order 81(16), the House proceeded to the putting of the question on the main motion, as amended, of Mr. Jaffer (Edmonton -- Strathcona), seconded by Mr. Mark (Dauphin -- Swan River), -- That this House recognize that strengthening the unity of Canada is its highest priority and given that nine provincial premiers and two territorial leaders have begun a process of consultation on national unity built on the Calgary Declaration, this House:

1. endorses the efforts of the premiers, the territorial leaders and grass-roots Canadians to foster national unity;

2. declares its support for the consultation process begun by the premiers and territorial leaders;

3. urges Canadians to become involved in the consulatation process and in particular to express their approval of, disapproval of, or suggested improvements to such principles as the equality of citizens and provinces and special status for none, respect for diversity including the unique character of Quebec society, and the need for re-balancing the powers of the provincial and federal governments;

4. urges the Government of Canada and Members of this House to communicate with Quebecers regarding the Calgary Declaration, and to consult the people of Quebec on its contents;

5. and regrets that the separatist government of Quebec has chosen not to participate in the discussion on national unity, and has refused to include Quebecers in the consultation on the Calgary Declaration.

The question was put on the main motion, as amended, and it was agreed to on the following division:

YEAS: 190, NAYS: 71. (See list under Division No. 27)

Mr. Massé (President of the Treasury Board), seconded by Ms. Marleau (Minister for International Cooperation), moved Motion No. 1, -- That Vote 40, in the amount of $19,440,000 under CANADIAN HERITAGE -- Canada Information Office -- Program expenditures, in the Main Estimates for the fiscal year ending March 31, 1998 (less the amount voted in Interim Supply), be concurred in.

The question was put on Motion No. 1 and it was agreed to on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 28)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Calder -- Cannis -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Cullen -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Duhamel -- Eggleton -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Gagliano -- Gallaway -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Harvard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Jordan -- Karygiannis -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lavigne -- Lee -- Leung -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- MacAulay -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Normand -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Pickard --  (Kent -- Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Provenzano -- Redman -- Reed -- Richardson -- Robillard -- Rock -- Saada -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- St-Julien -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Wappel -- Whelan -- Wilfert -- 142

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Alarie -- Asselin -- Axworthy --  (Saskatoon -- Rosetown -- Biggar) -- Bachand --  (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Bailey -- Bellehumeur -- Benoit -- Bergeron -- Bernier --  (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Bigras -- Blaikie -- Borotsik -- Breitkreuz --  (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brien -- Cadman -- Canuel -- Casey -- Casson -- Charest -- Chatters -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Crête -- Cummins -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Davies -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desjarlais -- Desrochers -- Dockrill -- Doyle -- Dubé --  (Lévis) -- Dubé --  (Madawaska -- Restigouche) -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Epp -- Forseth -- Fournier -- Gagnon -- Gauthier -- Gilmour -- Girard-Bujold -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Goldring -- Gouk -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Guay -- Guimond -- Hanger -- Harris -- Hart -- Harvey -- Herron -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hilstrom -- Hoeppner -- Jaffer -- Johnston -- Jones -- Keddy --  (South Shore) -- Kenney --  (Calgary-Sud-Est) -- Konrad -- Laliberte -- Lalonde -- Lebel -- Lefebvre -- Lill -- Lowther -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Mancini -- Manning -- Marceau -- Marchand -- Mark -- Martin --  (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- Mayfield -- McDonough -- Ménard -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Muise -- Nunziata -- Nystrom -- Obhrai -- Pankiw -- Penson -- Perron -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Price -- Proctor -- Ramsay -- Ritz -- Robinson -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Schmidt -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- Solomon -- St-Hilaire -- Stinson -- St-Jacques -- Strahl -- Thompson --  (Charlotte) -- Thompson --  (Wild Rose) -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Turp -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Wayne -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- White --  (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- 120

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Baker -- Bernier --  (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Easter -- Grose -- Laurin -- Loubier -- Mercier -- Volpe

Mr. Massé (President of the Treasury Board), seconded by Ms. Marleau (Minister for International Cooperation), moved Motion No. 2, -- That Vote 35, in the amount of $6,962,000 under FINANCE -- Canadian International Trade Tribunal -- Program expenditures, in the Main Estimates for the fiscal year ending March 31, 1998 (less the amount voted in Interim Supply), be concurred in.

The question was put on Motion No. 2 and it was agreed to on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 29)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alarie -- Alcock -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Asselin -- Augustine -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellehumeur -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Bergeron -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Bigras -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Brien -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Calder -- Cannis -- Canuel -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Crête -- Cullen -- Dalphond-Guiral -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desrochers -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Dubé --  (Lévis) -- Duceppe -- Duhamel -- Dumas -- Eggleton -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Fournier -- Gagliano -- Gagnon -- Gallaway -- Gauthier -- Girard-Bujold -- Godfrey -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Guarnieri -- Guay -- Guimond -- Harb -- Harvard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Jordan -- Karygiannis -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lalonde -- Lastewka -- Lavigne -- Lebel -- Lee -- Lefebvre -- Leung -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- MacAulay -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marceau -- Marchand -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Ménard -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Normand -- Nunziata -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Peric -- Perron -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Pickard --  (Kent -- Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Plamondon -- Pratt -- Provenzano -- Redman -- Reed -- Richardson -- Robillard -- Rocheleau -- Rock -- Saada -- Sauvageau -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- St-Hilaire -- St-Julien -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Torsney -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Turp -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Wappel -- Whelan -- Wilfert -- 183

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Axworthy --  (Saskatoon -- Rosetown -- Biggar) -- Bachand --  (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bailey -- Benoit -- Bernier --  (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Blaikie -- Borotsik -- Breitkreuz --  (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Cadman -- Casey -- Casson -- Charest -- Chatters -- Cummins -- Davies -- Desjarlais -- Dockrill -- Doyle -- Dubé --  (Madawaska -- Restigouche) -- Epp -- Forseth -- Gilmour -- Goldring -- Gouk -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Hanger -- Harris -- Hart -- Harvey -- Herron -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hilstrom -- Hoeppner -- Jaffer -- Johnston -- Jones -- Keddy --  (South Shore) -- Kenney --  (Calgary-Sud-Est) -- Konrad -- Laliberte -- Lill -- Lowther -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Mancini -- Manning -- Mark -- Martin --  (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- Mayfield -- McDonough -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Muise -- Nystrom -- Obhrai -- Pankiw -- Penson -- Price -- Proctor -- Ramsay -- Ritz -- Robinson -- Schmidt -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- Solomon -- Stinson -- St-Jacques -- Strahl -- Thompson --  (Charlotte) -- Thompson --  (Wild Rose) -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Wayne -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- White --  (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- 80

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Baker -- Bernier --  (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Easter -- Grose -- Laurin -- Loubier -- Mercier -- Volpe

Mr. Massé (President of the Treasury Board), seconded by Ms. Marleau (Minister for International Cooperation), moved Motion No. 3, -- That Vote 15, in the amount of $455,976,000 under PUBLIC WORKS AND GOVERNMENT SERVICES -- Supply and Services Program -- Program expenditures, in the Main Estimates for the fiscal year ending March 31, 1998 (less the amount voted in Interim Supply), be concurred in.

The question was put on Motion No. 3 and it was agreed to on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 30)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Calder -- Cannis -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Cullen -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Duhamel -- Eggleton -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Gagliano -- Gallaway -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Harvard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Jordan -- Karygiannis -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lavigne -- Lee -- Leung -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- MacAulay -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Normand -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Pickard --  (Kent -- Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Provenzano -- Redman -- Reed -- Richardson -- Robillard -- Rock -- Saada -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- St-Julien -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Wappel -- Whelan -- Wilfert -- 143

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Alarie -- Asselin -- Axworthy --  (Saskatoon -- Rosetown -- Biggar) -- Bachand --  (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Bailey -- Bellehumeur -- Benoit -- Bergeron -- Bernier --  (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Bigras -- Blaikie -- Borotsik -- Breitkreuz --  (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brien -- Cadman -- Canuel -- Casey -- Casson -- Charest -- Chatters -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Crête -- Cummins -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Davies -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desjarlais -- Desrochers -- Dockrill -- Doyle -- Dubé --  (Lévis) -- Dubé --  (Madawaska -- Restigouche) -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Epp -- Forseth -- Fournier -- Gagnon -- Gauthier -- Gilmour -- Girard-Bujold -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Goldring -- Gouk -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Guay -- Guimond -- Hanger -- Harris -- Hart -- Harvey -- Herron -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hilstrom -- Hoeppner -- Jaffer -- Johnston -- Jones -- Keddy --  (South Shore) -- Kenney --  (Calgary-Sud-Est) -- Konrad -- Laliberte -- Lalonde -- Lebel -- Lefebvre -- Lill -- Lowther -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Mancini -- Manning -- Marceau -- Marchand -- Mark -- Martin --  (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- Mayfield -- McDonough -- Ménard -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Muise -- Nunziata -- Nystrom -- Obhrai -- Pankiw -- Penson -- Perron -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Price -- Proctor -- Ramsay -- Ritz -- Robinson -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Schmidt -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- Solomon -- St-Hilaire -- Stinson -- St-Jacques -- Strahl -- Thompson --  (Charlotte) -- Thompson --  (Wild Rose) -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Turp -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Wayne -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- White --  (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- 120

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Baker -- Bernier --  (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Easter -- Grose -- Laurin -- Loubier -- Mercier -- Volpe

Mr. Massé (President of the Treasury Board), seconded by Ms. Marleau (Minister for International Cooperation), moved Motion No. 4, -- That Vote 1, in the amount of $564,428,000 under AGRICULTURE AND AGRI-FOOD -- Department -- Operating expenditures, in the Main Estimates for the fiscal year ending March 31, 1998 (less the amount voted in Interim Supply), be concurred in.

The question was put on Motion No. 4 and it was agreed to on the following division:

YEAS: 143, NAYS: 120. (See list under Division No. 30)

Mr. Massé (President of the Treasury Board), seconded by Ms. Marleau (Minister for International Cooperation), moved Motion No. 5, -- That Vote 1, in the amount of $407,212,000 under ENVIRONMENT -- Department -- Operating expenditures, in the Main Estimates for the fiscal year ending March 31, 1998 (less the amount voted in Interim Supply), be concurred in.

The question was put on Motion No. 5 and it was agreed to on the following division:

YEAS: 143, NAYS: 120. (See list under Division No. 30)

Mr. Massé (President of the Treasury Board), seconded by Ms. Marleau (Minister for International Cooperation), moved Motion No. 6, -- That Vote 5, in the amount of $195,678,000 under INDIAN AFFAIRS AND NORTHERN DEVELOPMENT -- Department -- Indian and Inuit Affairs Program -- Operating expenditures, in the Main Estimates for the fiscal year ending March 31, 1998 (less the amount voted in Interim Supply), be concurred in.

The question was put on Motion No. 6 and it was agreed to on the following division:

YEAS: 143, NAYS: 120. (See list under Division No. 30)

Mr. Massé (President of the Treasury Board), seconded by Ms. Marleau (Minister for International Cooperation), moved Motion No. 7, -- That Vote 15, in the amount of $68,183,000 under CITIZENSHIP AND IMMIGRATION -- Immigration and Refugee Board of Canada -- Program expenditures, in the Main Estimates for the fiscal year ending March 31, 1998 (less the amount voted in Interim Supply), be concurred in.

The question was put on Motion No. 7 and it was agreed to on the following division:

YEAS: 143, NAYS: 120. (See list under Division No. 30)

Mr. Massé (President of the Treasury Board), seconded by Ms. Marleau (Minister for International Cooperation), moved Motion No. 8, -- That Vote 5, in the amount of $106,193,000 under TRANSPORT -- Department -- Capital expenditures, in the Main Estimates for the fiscal year ending March 31, 1998 (less the amount voted in Interim Supply), be concurred in.

The question was put on Motion No. 8 and it was agreed to on the following division:

YEAS: 143, NAYS: 120. (See list under Division No. 30)

Mr. Massé (President of the Treasury Board), seconded by Ms. Marleau (Minister for International Cooperation), moved -- That the Main Estimates for the fiscal year ending March 31, 1998, except any vote disposed of earlier today and less the amounts voted in Interim Supply, be concurred in.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:

YEAS: 143, NAYS: 120. (See list under Division No. 30)

Mr. Massé (President of the Treasury Board), seconded by Ms. Marleau (Minister for International Cooperation), moved Motion No. 1, -- That Vote 1a, in the amount of $74,958,127 under AGRICULTURE AND AGRI-FOOD -- Department -- Operating expenditures, in the Supplementary Estimates (A) for the fiscal year ending March 31, 1998, be concurred in.

The question was put on Motion No. 1 and it was agreed to on the following division:

YEAS: 143, NAYS: 120. (See list under Division No. 30)

Mr. Massé (President of the Treasury Board), seconded by Ms. Marleau (Minister for International Cooperation), moved -- That the Supplementary Estimates (A) for the fiscal year ending March 31, 1998, except any vote disposed of earlier today, be concurred in.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:

YEAS: 143, NAYS: 120. (See list under Division No. 30)

Pursuant to Standing Orders 81(19) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Massé (President of the Treasury Board), seconded by Ms. Marleau (Minister for International Cooperation), Bill C-23, An Act for granting to Her Majesty certain sums of money for the public service of Canada for the financial year ending March 31, 1998, was read the first time and ordered to be printed.

Mr. Massé (President of the Treasury Board), seconded by Ms. Marleau (Minister for International Cooperation), moved, -- That the Bill be now read a second time and referred to a Committee of the Whole.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:

YEAS: 143, NAYS: 120. (See list under Division No. 30)

Accordingly, the Bill was read the second time and referred to a Committee of the Whole.

The Committee considered the Bill and reported it without amendment.

Pursuant to standing Order 76.1(12), Mr. Massé (President of the Treasury Board), seconded by Ms. Marleau (Minister for International Cooperation), moved, -- That the Bill be concurred in at report stage.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 31)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Calder -- Cannis -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Cullen -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Duhamel -- Eggleton -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Gagliano -- Gallaway -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Harvard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Jordan -- Karygiannis -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lavigne -- Lee -- Leung -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- MacAulay -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Normand -- Nunziata -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Pickard --  (Kent -- Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Provenzano -- Redman -- Reed -- Richardson -- Robillard -- Rock -- Saada -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- St-Julien -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Wappel -- Whelan -- Wilfert -- 144

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Alarie -- Asselin -- Axworthy --  (Saskatoon -- Rosetown -- Biggar) -- Bachand --  (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Bailey -- Bellehumeur -- Benoit -- Bergeron -- Bernier --  (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Bigras -- Blaikie -- Borotsik -- Breitkreuz --  (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brien -- Cadman -- Canuel -- Casey -- Casson -- Charest -- Chatters -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Crête -- Cummins -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Davies -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desjarlais -- Desrochers -- Dockrill -- Doyle -- Dubé --  (Lévis) -- Dubé --  (Madawaska -- Restigouche) -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Epp -- Forseth -- Fournier -- Gagnon -- Gauthier -- Gilmour -- Girard-Bujold -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Goldring -- Gouk -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Guay -- Guimond -- Hanger -- Harris -- Hart -- Harvey -- Herron -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hilstrom -- Hoeppner -- Jaffer -- Johnston -- Jones -- Keddy --  (South Shore) -- Kenney --  (Calgary-Sud-Est) -- Konrad -- Laliberte -- Lalonde -- Lebel -- Lefebvre -- Lill -- Lowther -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Mancini -- Marceau -- Marchand -- Mark -- Martin --  (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- Mayfield -- McDonough -- Ménard -- Morrison -- Muise -- Nystrom -- Obhrai -- Pankiw -- Penson -- Perron -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Price -- Proctor -- Ramsay -- Ritz -- Robinson -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Schmidt -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- Solomon -- St-Hilaire -- Stinson -- St-Jacques -- Strahl -- Thompson --  (Charlotte) -- Thompson --  (Wild Rose) -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Turp -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Wayne -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- White --  (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- 117

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Baker -- Bernier --  (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Easter -- Grose -- Laurin -- Loubier -- Mercier -- Volpe

Accordingly, the Bill was concurred in at report stage.

Mr. Massé (President of the Treasury Board), seconded by Ms. Marleau (Minister for International Cooperation), moved, -- That the Bill be now read a third time and do pass.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:

YEAS: 144, NAYS: 117. (See list under division No. 31)

Accordingly, the Bill was read the third time and passed.

Pursuant to Order made Friday, November 21, 1997, the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the motion of Mr. Manley (Minister of Industry), seconded by Mr. Normand (Secretary of State (Agriculture and Agri-Food, Fisheries and Oceans)), -- That Bill C-17, An Act to amend the Telecommunications Act and the Teleglobe Canada Reorganization and Divestiture Act, be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Industry.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 32)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Adams -- Alarie -- Alcock -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Asselin -- Augustine -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bachand --  (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Bailey -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellehumeur -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Benoit -- Bergeron -- Bernier --  (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Bigras -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Borotsik -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Breitkreuz --  (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brien -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Cadman -- Calder -- Cannis -- Canuel -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Casey -- Casson -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Charest -- Chatters -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Crête -- Cullen -- Cummins -- Dalphond-Guiral -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desrochers -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Doyle -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Dubé --  (Lévis) -- Dubé --  (Madawaska -- Restigouche) -- Duceppe -- Duhamel -- Dumas -- Eggleton -- Epp -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Forseth -- Fournier -- Gagliano -- Gagnon -- Gallaway -- Gauthier -- Gilmour -- Girard-Bujold -- Godfrey -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Goldring -- Goodale -- Gouk -- Graham -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Guarnieri -- Guay -- Guimond -- Hanger -- Harb -- Harris -- Hart -- Harvard -- Harvey -- Herron -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hilstrom -- Hoeppner -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jaffer -- Jennings -- Johnston -- Jones -- Jordan -- Karygiannis -- Keddy --  (South Shore) -- Kenney --  (Calgary-Sud-Est) -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Konrad -- Kraft Sloan -- Lalonde -- Lastewka -- Lavigne -- Lebel -- Lee -- Lefebvre -- Leung -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- Lowther -- MacAulay -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marceau -- Marchand -- Marchi -- Mark -- Marleau -- Martin --  (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- Mayfield -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Ménard -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Morrison -- Muise -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Normand -- Nunziata -- Obhrai -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Pankiw -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Penson -- Peric -- Perron -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Pickard --  (Kent -- Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Plamondon -- Pratt -- Price -- Provenzano -- Ramsay -- Redman -- Reed -- Richardson -- Ritz -- Robillard -- Rocheleau -- Rock -- Saada -- Sauvageau -- Schmidt -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- St-Hilaire -- Stinson -- St-Jacques -- St-Julien -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Thompson --  (Charlotte) -- Thompson --  (Wild Rose) -- Torsney -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Turp -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Wappel -- Wayne -- Whelan -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- White --  (North Vancouver) -- Wilfert -- Williams -- 246

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Axworthy --  (Saskatoon -- Rosetown -- Biggar) -- Blaikie -- Davies -- Desjarlais -- Dockrill -- Laliberte -- Lill -- Mancini -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- McDonough -- Nystrom -- Proctor -- Robinson -- Solomon -- Wasylycia-Leis -- 15

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Baker -- Bernier --  (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Easter -- Grose -- Laurin -- Loubier -- Mercier -- Volpe

Accordingly, the Bill was read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Industry.

PRIVATE MEMBERS' BUSINESS

At 6:30 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 30(7), the House proceeded to the consideration of Private Members' Business.

The Order was read for the second reading and reference to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights of Bill C-206, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (prostitution).

Mr. Forseth (New Westminster -- Coquitlam -- Burnaby), seconded by Mr. Lowther (Calgary Centre), moved, -- That the Bill be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights.

Pursuant to Standing Order 96(1), the Order was dropped from the Order Paper.

RETURNS AND REPORTS DEPOSITED WITH THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(1), papers deposited with the Clerk of the House were laid upon the Table as follows:

-- by Mr. Manley (Minister of Industry) -- Report of the Industrial and Regional Development Program for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1997, pursuant to the Industrial and Regional Development Act, R. S. 1985, c. I-8, sbs. 14(1). -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-361-474. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Industry)

-- by Mr. Manley (Minister of Industry) -- Reports of the National Research Council for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1997, pursuant to the Access to Information Act and to the Privacy Act, R. S. 1985, c. A-1 and P-21, sbs. 72(2). -- Sessional Paper No. 8561-361-639. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights)

-- by Mr. Manley (Minister of Industry) -- Reports of the Natural Sciences and Engineering Research Council of Canada for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1997, pursuant to the Access to Information Act and to the Privacy Act, R.S. 1985, c. A-1 and P-21, sbs. 72(2). -- Sessional Paper No. 8561-361- 719. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights)

ADJOURNMENT

At 7:30 p.m., the Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow at 2:00 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).