HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA
37th PARLIAMENT, 1st SESSION

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JOURNALS

No. 185

Wednesday, May 8, 2002

2:00 p.m.

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Prayers

National Anthem

Statements By Members

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

Oral Questions

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

Daily Routine Of Business

Tabling of Documents

Pursuant to Standing Order 34(1), the Speaker presented the Report of a Parliamentary delegation that travelled to Japan from March 25 to 30, 2002. — Sessional Paper No. 8565-371-75-03.

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Pursuant to Standing Order 34(1), the Speaker presented the Report of a Parliamentary delegation that travelled to the People's Republic of China from March 30 to April 6, 2002. — Sessional Paper No. 8565-371-75-04.

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Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Boudria (Minister of Public Works and Government Services) laid upon the Table, — Report of the Auditor General to the Minister of Public Works and Government Services on Three Contracts Awarded to Groupaction. — Sessional Paper No. 8525-371-35.

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Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Regan (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, — Orders in Council concerning certain appointments made by the Governor General in Council, pursuant to Standing Order 110(1), as follows:

— P.C. 2002-601, P.C. 2002-602, P.C. 2002-603 and P.C. 2002-609. — Sessional Paper No. 8540-371-1-17. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Aboriginal Affairs, Northern Development and Natural Resources)

— P.C. 2002-606, P.C. 2002-607 and P.C. 2002-608. — Sessional Paper No. 8540-371-8-21. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs and International Trade)

— P.C. 2002-612, P.C. 2002-613, P.C. 2002-614, P.C. 2002-615, P.C. 2002-616, P.C. 2002-617, P.C. 2002-618 and P.C. 2002-625. — Sessional Paper No. 8540-371-16-24. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Human Resources Development and the Status of Persons with Disabilities)

— P.C. 2002-604. — Sessional Paper No. 8540-371-17-04. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on National Defence and Veterans Affairs)

— P.C. 2002-605. — Sessional Paper No. 8540-371-5-15. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs)

— P.C. 2002-610 and P.C. 2002-611. — Sessional Paper No. 8540-371-20-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Public Accounts)

— P.C. 2002-592, P.C. 2002-593, P.C. 2002-594, P.C. 2002-595, P.C. 2002-596, P.C. 2002-597, P.C. 2002-598, P.C. 2002-599 and P.C. 2002-600. — Sessional Paper No. 8540-371-24-25. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Transport and Government Operations)

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Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Regan (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, — Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to the following petitions:

— No. 371-0602 concerning the National Missile Defence Program. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-371-56-06;

— Nos. 371-0608, 371-0646, 371-0647 and 371-0648 concerning the fishing industry. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-371-87-03.

Presenting Reports from Committees

Mr. Hubbard (Miramichi) , from the Standing Committee on Agriculture and Agri-Food, presented the Third Report of the Committee (Registration of Pesticides and the Competitiveness of Canadian Farmers). — Sessional Paper No. 8510-371-154.

Pursuant to Standing Order 109, the Committee requested that the government table a comprehensive response.

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings (Meetings Nos. 5, 7, 63 and 64) was tabled.

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Mr. Cotler (Mount Royal) , from the Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs and International Trade, presented the 18th Report of the Committee (Conflict, Human Rights and Democracy in Colombia: A Canadian Agenda). — Sessional Paper No. 8510-371-155.

Pursuant to Standing Order 109, the Committee requested that the government table a comprehensive response.

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings (Meeting No. 74) was tabled.

Introduction of Private Members' Bills

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Crête (Kamouraska--Rivière-du-Loup--Témiscouata--Les Basques) , seconded by Ms. St-Hilaire (Longueuil) , Bill C-463, An Act to amend the Employment Insurance Act (arm's length dealing), was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Presenting Petitions

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were presented as follows:

— by Mr. Marceau (Charlesbourg--Jacques-Cartier) , one concerning the Canada Post Corporation (No. 371-0701);

— by Ms. St-Hilaire (Longueuil) , one concerning the Canada Post Corporation (No. 371-0702);

— by Mr. Crête (Kamouraska--Rivière-du-Loup--Témiscouata--Les Basques) , one concerning employment (No. 371-0703).

Notices of Motions for the Production of Papers

The Notice of Motion for the Production of Papers P-33 was called pursuant to Standing Order 97(1) and was transferred by the Clerk to “Notices of Motions (Papers)”.

Government Orders

The House resumed consideration at report stage of Bill C-5, An Act respecting the protection of wildlife species at risk in Canada, as reported by the Standing Committee on Environment and Sustainable Development with amendments;

And of the motions in Group No. 4 (Motions Nos. 6, 16, 17, 20, 24, 25, 29, 72, 76, 114, 126, 127 and 130).

Group No. 4

Motion No. 6 of Mr. Anderson (Minister of the Environment) , seconded by Mr. Drouin (Secretary of State (Economic Development Agency of Canada for the Regions of Quebec)) , — That Bill C-5, in Clause 2, be amended by deleting lines 42 to 44 on page 5.

Motion No. 16 of Mr. Anderson (Minister of the Environment) , seconded by Mr. Drouin (Secretary of State (Economic Development Agency of Canada for the Regions of Quebec)) , — That Bill C-5, in Clause 7, be amended by replacing lines 26 to 33 on page 8 with the following:

“implementation of action plans; and

(b) coordinate the activities of the various governments represented on the Council relating to the protection of species at risk.”

Motion No. 17 of Mr. Anderson (Minister of the Environment) , seconded by Mr. Drouin (Secretary of State (Economic Development Agency of Canada for the Regions of Quebec)) , — That Bill C-5 be amended by deleting Clause 7.1.

Motion No. 20 of Mr. Anderson (Minister of the Environment) , seconded by Mr. Drouin (Secretary of State (Economic Development Agency of Canada for the Regions of Quebec)) , — That Bill C-5 be amended by adding after line 26 on page 9 the following:

“8.1 The Minister may establish a committee, to be known as the National Aboriginal Committee on Species at Risk, consisting of six representatives of the aboriginal peoples of Canada appointed by the Minister based on recommendations from aboriginal organizations that the Minister considers appropriate. The role of the committee is to advise the Minister on the administration of this Act.”

Recommendation
(Pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(3))

Her Excellency the Governor General recommends to the House of Commons the appropriation of public revenue under the circumstances, in the manner and for the purposes set out in a measure entitled "An Act respecting the protection of wildlife species at risk in Canada". That Bill C-5 be amended by adding after line 26 on page 9 the following:

“8.1 The Minister may establish a committee, to be known as the National Aboriginal Committee on Species at Risk, consisting of six representatives of the aboriginal peoples of Canada appointed by the Minister based on recommendations from aboriginal organizations that the Minister considers appropriate. The role of the committee is to advise the Minister on the administration of this Act.”

Amendment to Motion No. 20 of Mr. Laliberte (Churchill River) , seconded by Mr. Caccia (Davenport) , — That Motion No. 20 be amended by replacing all the words after “The Minister” with the following:

“shall establish a Council, to be known as the National Aboriginal Council on Species at Risk, consisting of six representatives of the aboriginal peoples of Canada selected by the Minister based upon recommendations from aboriginal organizations that the Minister considers appropriate. The role of the Council is to:

(1) advise the Minister on the administration of this Act;

(2) provide advice and recommendations to the Canadian Endangered Species Conservation Council.”

Motion No. 24 of Mr. Anderson (Minister of the Environment) , seconded by Mr. Drouin (Secretary of State (Economic Development Agency of Canada for the Regions of Quebec)) , — That Bill C-5, in Clause 10.1, be amended by replacing line 10 on page 10 with the following:

“son. A copy of the stewardship action plan must be included in the public registry.”

Motion No. 25 of Mr. Anderson (Minister of the Environment) , seconded by Mr. Drouin (Secretary of State (Economic Development Agency of Canada for the Regions of Quebec)) , — That Bill C-5, in Clause 10.2, be amended by replacing lines 11 to 38 on page 10 with the following:

“10.2 The stewardship action plan must include, but is not limited to, commitments to

(a) regularly examine incentives and programs that support actions taken by persons to protect species at risk;

(b) provide information and increase public awareness about species at risk;

(c) share information about species at risk, including community and aboriginal traditional knowledge, with other governments and persons;

(d) create awards and recognition programs;

(e) provide information respecting programs related to stewardship agreements, land conservation easements and other such agreements; and

(f) provide information relating to the technical and scientific support available to persons engaged in stewardship activities.”

Amendment to Motion No. 25 of Mr. Laliberte (Churchill River) , seconded by Mr. Caccia (Davenport) , — That Motion No. 25 be amended by replacing paragraph 10.2(c) with the following:

“(c) methods for sharing information about species at risk, including community and aboriginal traditional knowledge, that respect, preserve and maintain knowledge and promote their wider application with the approval of the holders of such knowledge, with other governments and persons;”

Motion No. 29 of Mr. Anderson (Minister of the Environment) , seconded by Mr. Drouin (Secretary of State (Economic Development Agency of Canada for the Regions of Quebec)) , — That Bill C-5, in Clause 13, be amended by deleting lines 14 to 22 on page 12.

Motion No. 72 of Mr. Anderson (Minister of the Environment) , seconded by Mr. Drouin (Secretary of State (Economic Development Agency of Canada for the Regions of Quebec)) , — That Bill C-5, in Clause 45, be amended by replacing lines 9 to 13 on page 27 with the following:

“(2) If the amendment relates to the time for completing an action plan, the competent minister must provide reasons for the amendment and include a copy of the reasons in the public registry.

(3) Sections 39 and 43 apply to amendments to a recovery strategy, with any modifications that the circumstances require.

(4) Subsection (3) does not apply if the”

Motion No. 76 of Mr. Anderson (Minister of the Environment) , seconded by Mr. Drouin (Secretary of State (Economic Development Agency of Canada for the Regions of Quebec)) , — That Bill C-5, in Clause 50, be amended by replacing lines 15 to 37 on page 29 with the following:

“50. (1) The competent minister must include a proposed action plan in the public registry.

(2) Within 60 days after the proposed action plan is included in the public registry, any person may file written comments with the competent minister.

(3) Within 30 days after the expiry of the period referred to in subsection (2), the competent minister must consider any comments received, make any changes to the proposed action plan that he or she considers appropriate and finalize the action plan by including a copy of it in the public registry.

(4) If an action plan is not finalized in the time set out in the recovery strategy, the competent minister must include in the public registry a summary of what has been prepared with respect to the plan.”

Motion No. 114 of Mr. Anderson (Minister of the Environment) , seconded by Mr. Drouin (Secretary of State (Economic Development Agency of Canada for the Regions of Quebec)) , — That Bill C-5, in Clause 69, be amended by

(a) replacing lines 15 to 19 on page 38 with the following:

“for the conservation of the species and the competent minister adopts the existing plan as the proposed management plan, he or she must include a copy of it in the public registry as the proposed management plan in relation to the”

(b) replacing lines 23 to 25 on page 38 with the following:

“wildlife species into a proposed management plan for the species.”

Motion No. 126 of Mr. Anderson (Minister of the Environment) , seconded by Mr. Drouin (Secretary of State (Economic Development Agency of Canada for the Regions of Quebec)) , — That Bill C-5, in Clause 123, be amended by replacing lines 33 to 37 on page 68 with the following:

“filed in court and are available to the public; and

(h) every report made under sections 126 and 128.”

Motion No. 127 of Mr. Burton (Skeena) , seconded by Mr. Mills (Red Deer) , — That Bill C-5, in Clause 124, be amended by replacing line 39 on page 68 with the following:

“SEWIC, may restrict the public release of any”

Motion No. 130 of Mr. Anderson (Minister of the Environment) , seconded by Mr. Drouin (Secretary of State (Economic Development Agency of Canada for the Regions of Quebec)) , — That Bill C-5, in Clause 129, be amended by replacing lines 34 and 35 on page 70 with the following:

“force, a committee of the House of”

The debate continued on the motions in Group No. 4.

The attention of the Speaker was drawn to the lack of a quorum and, fewer than 20 Members having been counted, pursuant to Standing Order 29(3), the bells were rung to call in the Members.

After one minute, a quorum was found.

The House resumed consideration at report stage of Bill C-5, An Act respecting the protection of wildlife species at risk in Canada, as reported by the Standing Committee on Environment and Sustainable Development with amendments;

And of the motions in Group No. 4 (Motions Nos. 6, 16, 17, 20, 24, 25, 29, 72, 76, 114, 126, 127 and 130).

The debate continued on the motions in Group No. 4.

The attention of the Speaker was drawn to the lack of a quorum and, fewer than 20 Members having been counted, pursuant to Standing Order 29(3), the bells were rung to call in the Members.

After one minute, a quorum was found.

The House resumed consideration at report stage of Bill C-5, An Act respecting the protection of wildlife species at risk in Canada, as reported by the Standing Committee on Environment and Sustainable Development with amendments;

And of the motions in Group No. 4 (Motions Nos. 6, 16, 17, 20, 24, 25, 29, 72, 76, 114, 126, 127 and 130).

The debate continued on the motions in Group No. 4.

Private Members' Business

At 5:30 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 30(6), the House proceeded to the consideration of Private Members' Business.

Ms. McDonough (Halifax) , seconded by Ms. Lill (Dartmouth) , moved, — That, in the opinion of this House, the government should, in line with the Arthritis Society's Canadian Arthritis Bill of Rights: (a) recognize every patient's right to timely and accurate diagnosis, and to improved access to new medications; (b) ensure patients, wherever they live, enjoy the same quality of care; and (c) to achieve these goals, consider restoring federal funding to 25% of healthcare spending, moving towards restoring the federal contribution to 50% of total healthcare spending. (Private Members' Business M-484)

Debate arose thereon.

Pursuant to Standing Order 96(1), the Order was dropped from the Order Paper.

Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(1), a paper deposited with the Clerk of the House was laid upon the Table as follows:

— by Mr. Collenette (Minister of Transport) — Reports of the Atlantic Pilotage Authority for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2002, pursuant to the Access to Information Act and to the Privacy Act, R.S. 1985, c. A-1 and P-21, sbs. 72(2). — Sessional Paper No. 8561-371-713-02. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights)

Petitions Filed with the Clerk of the House

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, a petition certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions was filed as follows:

— by Mr. St. Denis (Algoma--Manitoulin) , concerning terrorism (No. 371-0704).

Adjournment Proceedings

At 6:30 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 38(1), the question "That this House do now adjourn" was deemed to have been proposed.

After debate, the question was deemed to have been adopted.

Accordingly, at 6:49 p.m., the Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow at 10:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).