HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA
37^TH PARLIAMENT, 1^st SESSION

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JOURNALS

No. 043

Wednesday, April 4, 2001

2:00 p.m.

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PRAYERS

NATIONAL ANTHEM

STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

ORAL QUESTIONS

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

DAILY ROUTINE OF BUSINESS

Tabling of Documents

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Lee (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to the following petitions:

-- Nos. 371-0070 and 371-0098 concerning health care services. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-371-3-07;

-- No. 371-0103 concerning the agricultural industry. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-371-17-03.

Presenting Reports from Committees

Mr. Bevilacqua (Vaughan -- King -- Aurora), from the Standing Committee on Finance, presented the Second Report of the Committee (Bill C-13, An Act to amend the Excise Tax Act, without amendment). -- Sessional Paper No. 8510-371-15.

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings (Meetings Nos. 8 and 10) was tabled.

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Mr. Scott (Fredericton), from the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights, presented the First Report of the Committee (Bill C-12, An Act to amend the Judges Act and to amend another Act in consequence, with amendments). -- Sessional Paper No. 8510-371-16.

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings (Meetings Nos. 4 and 5) was tabled.

Introduction of Government Bills

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Tobin (Minister of Industry), seconded by Mr. Nault (Minister of Indian Affairs and Northern Development), Bill C-23, An Act to amend the Competition Act and the Competition Tribunal Act, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Recommendation
(Pursuant to Standing Order 79(2))

Her Excellency the Governor General recommends to the House of Commons the appropriation of public revenue under the circumstances, in the manner and for the purposes set out in a measure entitled ``An Act to amend the Competition Act and the Competition Tribunal Act''.

Introduction of Private Members' Bills

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Benoit (Lakeland), seconded by Mr. Epp (Elk Island), Bill C-328, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (theft over $100,000), was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

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Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Ms. Davies (Vancouver East), seconded by Mr. Martin (Winnipeg Centre), Bill C-329, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (protection of children), was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

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Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Speller (Haldimand -- Norfolk -- Brant), seconded by Mr. Volpe (Eglinton -- Lawrence), Bill C-330, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (desecration of the Canadian Flag), was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

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Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Mark (Dauphin -- Swan River), seconded by Mr. Benoit (Lakeland), Bill C-331, An Act to recognize the injustice that was done to persons of Ukrainian descent and other Europeans who were interned at the time of the First World War and to provide for public commemoration and for restitution which is to be devoted to education and the promotion of tolerance, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

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Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Ms. Lalonde (Mercier), seconded by Ms. St-Hilaire (Longueuil), Bill C-332, An Act to amend the Special Economic Measures Act, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

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Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. White (Langley -- Abbotsford), seconded by Mr. Pallister (Portage -- Lisgar), Bill C-333, An Act to establish and maintain a national registry of sex offenders to protect the children and communities of Canada, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Presenting Petitions

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were presented as follows:

-- by Mr. St-Julien (Abitibi -- Baie-James -- Nunavik), one concerning the mining industry (No. 371-0138);

-- by Mr. Adams (Peterborough), one concerning Canada's railways (No. 371-0139) and two concerning health care services (Nos. 371-0140 and 371-0141);

-- by Mrs. Skelton (Saskatoon -- Rosetown -- Biggar), one concerning the agricultural industry (No. 371-0142);

-- by Mr. Godin (Acadie -- Bathurst), two concerning international trade (Nos. 371-0143 and 371-0144).

NOTICES OF MOTIONS FOR THE PRODUCTION OF PAPERS

It was ordered, -- That an Order of the House do issue for any studies conducted by heritage agencies of the government relating to the preservation, protection or development of Fort Townsend in St. John's, Newfoundland. (Notice of Motion for the Production of Papers P-4 -- Mr. Doyle (St. John's East)).

Mr. Lee (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) presented the Return to this Order. -- Sessional Paper No. 8550-371-4.

MESSAGES FROM THE SENATE

A Message was received from the Senate informing this House that the Senate has passed the following Bill to which the concurrence of the House is desired:

Bill S-16, An Act to amend the Proceeds of Crime (Money Laundering) Act.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The Order was read for the third reading of Bill C-2, An Act to amend the Employment Insurance Act and the Employment Insurance (Fishing) Regulations.

Mr. Tobin (Minister of Industry) for Mrs. Stewart (Minister of Human Resources Development), seconded by Mr. Goodale (Minister of Natural Resources), moved, -- That the Bill be now read a third time and do pass.

Debate arose thereon.

At 5:15 p.m., pursuant to Order made Monday, April 2, 2001, under the provisions of Standing Order 78(2), the Speaker interrupted the proceedings.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:

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(Division--Vote N^o 67)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Allard -- Anderson --  (Victoria) -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Bachand --  (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bagnell -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Binet -- Blaikie -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Borotsik -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Brison -- Brown -- Bryden -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Calder -- Cannis -- Caplan -- Carignan -- Carroll -- Casey -- Castonguay -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Charbonneau -- Clark -- Coderre -- Collenette -- Comartin -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Cotler -- Cullen -- Cuzner -- Davies -- Desjarlais -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Doyle -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Duhamel -- Duplain -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Eyking -- Farrah -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gallaway -- Godfrey -- Godin -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Harvard -- Harvey -- Hearn -- Herron -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Karygiannis -- Keddy --  (South Shore) -- Keyes -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Laliberte -- LeBlanc -- Lee -- Leung -- Lill -- Longfield -- MacAulay -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Macklin -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marcil -- Marleau -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- Matthews -- McCallum -- McCormick -- McDonough -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan -- McTeague -- Mills --  (Toronto -- Danforth) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murphy -- Myers -- Nault -- Neville -- Normand -- Nystrom -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Peric -- Pickard --  (Chatham -- Kent Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Price -- Proctor -- Proulx -- Provenzano -- Redman -- Reed --  (Halton) -- Regan -- Richardson -- Robillard -- Rock -- Saada -- Savoy -- Scherrer -- Scott -- Serré -- Sgro -- Shepherd -- Speller -- St. Denis -- St-Jacques -- St-Julien -- Steckle -- Stoffer -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibault --  (West Nova) -- Thibeault --  (Saint-Lambert) -- Tirabassi -- Tobin -- Tonks -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Volpe -- Wappel -- Wayne -- Whelan -- Wilfert -- 174

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Anders -- Anderson --  (Cypress Hills -- Grasslands) -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Bailey -- Bellehumeur -- Benoit -- Bergeron -- Bigras -- Breitkreuz -- Brien -- Cadman -- Cardin -- Casson -- Chatters -- Crête -- Cummins -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Day -- Desrochers -- Dubé -- Duceppe -- Duncan -- Elley -- Epp -- Fitzpatrick -- Forseth -- Gagnon --  (Champlain) -- Gagnon --  (Québec) -- Gallant -- Gauthier -- Girard-Bujold -- Goldring -- Gouk -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Guay -- Guimond -- Harris -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hinton -- Jaffer -- Johnston -- Laframboise -- Lalonde -- Lanctôt -- Lebel -- Loubier -- Manning -- Marceau -- Mark -- Martin --  (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Mayfield -- McNally -- Ménard -- Meredith -- Merrifield -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Moore -- Obhrai -- Paquette -- Penson -- Perron -- Peschisolido -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Rajotte -- Reid --  (Lanark -- Carleton) -- Reynolds -- Rocheleau -- Roy -- Sauvageau -- Schmidt -- Skelton -- Solberg -- Sorenson -- St-Hilaire -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Thompson --  (Wild Rose) -- Toews -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski-Neigette-et-la Mitis) -- Vellacott -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- Williams -- Yelich -- 87

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Bourgeois -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Plamondon -- Stewart -- Thibault --  (West Nova) -- Thompson --  (New Brunswick Southwest)

Accordingly, the Bill was read the third time and passed.

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Pursuant to Order made Tuesday, April 3, 2001, the House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Day (Okanagan -- Coquihalla), seconded by Mr. Strahl (Fraser Valley), -- That this House call for the establishment of an independent judicial inquiry to determine if the Prime Minister is in breach of conflict of interest rules regarding his involvement with the Grand-Mère Golf Club and the Grand-Mère Inn; and that the inquiry should have broad terms of reference with the power to subpoena all relevant documents and witnesses.

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the amendment of Ms. Meredith (South Surrey -- White Rock -- Langley), seconded by Mr. Reynolds (West Vancouver -- Sunshine Coast), -- That the motion be amended by adding the word ``immediate'' before the word ``establishment''.

The question was put on the amendment and it was negatived on the following division:

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(Division--Vote N^o 68)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Anders -- Anderson --  (Cypress Hills -- Grasslands) -- Bachand --  (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Bailey -- Bellehumeur -- Benoit -- Bergeron -- Bigras -- Blaikie -- Borotsik -- Breitkreuz -- Brien -- Brison -- Cadman -- Cardin -- Casey -- Casson -- Chatters -- Clark -- Comartin -- Crête -- Cummins -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Davies -- Day -- Desjarlais -- Desrochers -- Doyle -- Dubé -- Duceppe -- Duncan -- Elley -- Epp -- Fitzpatrick -- Forseth -- Gagnon --  (Champlain) -- Gagnon --  (Québec) -- Gallant -- Gauthier -- Girard-Bujold -- Godin -- Goldring -- Gouk -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Guay -- Guimond -- Harris -- Hearn -- Herron -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hilstrom -- Hinton -- Jaffer -- Johnston -- Keddy --  (South Shore) -- Kenney --  (Calgary Southeast) -- Laframboise -- Lalonde -- Lanctôt -- Lebel -- Lill -- Loubier -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Manning -- Marceau -- Mark -- Martin --  (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- Mayfield -- McDonough -- McNally -- Ménard -- Meredith -- Merrifield -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Moore -- Nystrom -- Obhrai -- Pallister -- Paquette -- Penson -- Perron -- Peschisolido -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Proctor -- Rajotte -- Reid --  (Lanark -- Carleton) -- Reynolds -- Rocheleau -- Roy -- Sauvageau -- Schmidt -- Skelton -- Solberg -- Sorenson -- St-Hilaire -- Stinson -- Stoffer -- Strahl -- Thompson --  (Wild Rose) -- Toews -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski-Neigette-et-la Mitis) -- Vellacott -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Wayne -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- Williams -- Yelich -- 113

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Allard -- Anderson --  (Victoria) -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Bagnell -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Binet -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Brown -- Bryden -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Calder -- Cannis -- Caplan -- Carignan -- Carroll -- Castonguay -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Charbonneau -- Coderre -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Cotler -- Cullen -- Cuzner -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Duhamel -- Duplain -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Eyking -- Farrah -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gallaway -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Harvard -- Harvey -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Karygiannis -- Keyes -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Laliberte -- LeBlanc -- Lee -- Leung -- Longfield -- MacAulay -- Macklin -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marcil -- Marleau -- Matthews -- McCallum -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan -- McTeague -- Mills --  (Toronto -- Danforth) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murphy -- Myers -- Nault -- Neville -- Normand -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Peric -- Pickard --  (Chatham -- Kent Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Price -- Proulx -- Provenzano -- Redman -- Reed --  (Halton) -- Regan -- Richardson -- Robillard -- Rock -- Saada -- Savoy -- Scherrer -- Scott -- Serré -- Sgro -- Shepherd -- Speller -- St. Denis -- St-Jacques -- St-Julien -- Steckle -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibault --  (West Nova) -- Thibeault --  (Saint-Lambert) -- Tirabassi -- Tobin -- Tonks -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Volpe -- Wappel -- Whelan -- Wilfert -- 152

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Bourgeois -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Plamondon -- Stewart -- Thibault --  (West Nova) -- Thompson --  (New Brunswick Southwest)

Pursuant to Standing Order 81(16), the question was put on the main motion and it was negatived on the following division:

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(Division--Vote N^o 69)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Anders -- Anderson --  (Cypress Hills -- Grasslands) -- Bachand --  (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Bailey -- Bellehumeur -- Benoit -- Bergeron -- Bigras -- Blaikie -- Borotsik -- Breitkreuz -- Brien -- Brison -- Cadman -- Cardin -- Casey -- Casson -- Chatters -- Clark -- Comartin -- Crête -- Cummins -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Davies -- Day -- Desjarlais -- Desrochers -- Doyle -- Dubé -- Duceppe -- Duncan -- Elley -- Epp -- Fitzpatrick -- Forseth -- Gagnon --  (Champlain) -- Gagnon --  (Québec) -- Gallant -- Gauthier -- Girard-Bujold -- Godin -- Goldring -- Gouk -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Guay -- Guimond -- Harris -- Hearn -- Herron -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hilstrom -- Hinton -- Jaffer -- Johnston -- Keddy --  (South Shore) -- Kenney --  (Calgary Southeast) -- Laframboise -- Lalonde -- Lanctôt -- Lebel -- Lill -- Loubier -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Manning -- Marceau -- Mark -- Martin --  (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- Mayfield -- McDonough -- McNally -- Ménard -- Meredith -- Merrifield -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Moore -- Nystrom -- Obhrai -- Pallister -- Paquette -- Penson -- Perron -- Peschisolido -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Proctor -- Rajotte -- Reid --  (Lanark -- Carleton) -- Reynolds -- Rocheleau -- Roy -- Sauvageau -- Schmidt -- Skelton -- Solberg -- Sorenson -- St-Hilaire -- Stinson -- Stoffer -- Strahl -- Thompson --  (Wild Rose) -- Toews -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski-Neigette-et-la Mitis) -- Vellacott -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Wayne -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- Williams -- Yelich -- 113

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Allard -- Anderson --  (Victoria) -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Bagnell -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Binet -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Brown -- Bryden -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Calder -- Cannis -- Caplan -- Carignan -- Carroll -- Castonguay -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Charbonneau -- Coderre -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Cotler -- Cullen -- Cuzner -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Duhamel -- Duplain -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Eyking -- Farrah -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gallaway -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Harvard -- Harvey -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Karygiannis -- Keyes -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Laliberte -- LeBlanc -- Lee -- Leung -- Longfield -- MacAulay -- Macklin -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marcil -- Marleau -- Matthews -- McCallum -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan -- McTeague -- Mills --  (Toronto -- Danforth) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murphy -- Myers -- Nault -- Neville -- Normand -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Peric -- Pickard --  (Chatham -- Kent Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Price -- Proulx -- Provenzano -- Redman -- Reed --  (Halton) -- Regan -- Richardson -- Robillard -- Rock -- Saada -- Savoy -- Scherrer -- Scott -- Serré -- Sgro -- Shepherd -- Speller -- St. Denis -- St-Jacques -- St-Julien -- Steckle -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibault --  (West Nova) -- Thibeault --  (Saint-Lambert) -- Tirabassi -- Tobin -- Tonks -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Volpe -- Wappel -- Whelan -- Wilfert -- 152

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Bourgeois -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Plamondon -- Stewart -- Thibault --  (West Nova) -- Thompson --  (New Brunswick Southwest)

PRIVATE MEMBERS' BUSINESS

At 5:58 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 30(7), the House proceeded to the consideration of Private Members' Business.

The Order was read for the second reading and reference to the Standing Committee on Finance of Bill C-209, An Act to amend the Income Tax Act (Public Transportation Costs).

Ms. Girard-Bujold (Jonquière), seconded by Mr. Cardin (Sherbrooke), moved, -- That the Bill be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Finance.

Debate arose thereon.

Pursuant to Standing Order 93, the Order was dropped to the bottom of the order of precedence on the Order Paper.

ADJOURNMENT PROCEEDINGS

At 6:58 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 38(1), the question ``That this House do now adjourn'' was deemed to have been proposed.

After debate, the question was deemed to have been adopted.

Accordingly, at 7:20 p.m., the Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow at 10:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).